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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by abbeywasc(m): 2:37pm On Sep 22, 2013
haibe: If Jesus is an angel, he won't accept worship, he won't be called mighty God, alpha and omega, first and last, etc.

Jesus is not an angel
did jesus ever accepted worship? or asked to be worshipped? did he say he is d alpha and omega? please cite relevant scriptures. avnt read any place where he also said he is equal to Jehovah or that he is Him in flesh.
but he did said dt only the father in heaven knoweth the last days(he doesnt)
he didnt preach trinity either." hear O isreal, the lord thy God is one."
plus if he is God in flesh, y does he pray to himself(lazarus tomb, right b4 his betrayal and on the cross)
please elaborate. tnks
ps: u av a lot to gain by getting familiar wt the jehovah witness's perspective

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 2:37pm On Sep 22, 2013
rezzy:

I just wish i can kill u. God, i hate ur being.
well dayummmmmm embarassed cry grin grin
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by abbeywasc(m): 2:37pm On Sep 22, 2013
haibe: If Jesus is an angel, he won't accept worship, he won't be called mighty God, alpha and omega, first and last, etc.

Jesus is not an angel
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 2:39pm On Sep 22, 2013
*Kails*:


damn...
change the first part to scripturally. whats good Kails wink wink grin

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by DonaldGenes(m): 2:42pm On Sep 22, 2013
Gombs: I'm stunned

Jesus same as angel Michael?


You all see why we need preach the Gospel of Christ faster than ever? We need break these kind of strongholds
100,000 likes, my brother people are just incredibly Stu.pid, sorry to say that, but it's nothing but the truth
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 2:42pm On Sep 22, 2013
obadiah777: well dayummmmmm embarassed cry grin grin

Haba no so e reach? they wanno kill you?? shocked shocked shocked

Fear catch me when I read this message, but then again, why are they so interested in you? It's not like you put it on their head...hmm...pregnant with meanings.....the blind eyes have got no beginnings.....


Good Morning

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debeloved87(m): 2:43pm On Sep 22, 2013
obadiah777:

see now i know why you are in darkness. you rely on some believers class for sound doctrine. you do err. sound doctrine is revealed to you by the master teacher, the holy spirit within you, that is. you do err not knowing scriptures. you are scripturally and spiritually illiterate grin grin
believers class is the starting point for you to know who christ and what christianity is about and its meant for spiritual babes like you, so am recommending dat first for you before we go unto spiritual high teachings...i weigh u and i can see dat u are quite low to my spiritual knowlede.

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by leonshom(m): 2:43pm On Sep 22, 2013
@Op, Abi churchi Ajerii lo'o lonii grin
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by try69: 2:44pm On Sep 22, 2013
See what protesting against the mother church has caused mankind? Smdh

Happy sunday russel followers A.K.A jehova's witnesses

You never open awake and not see them looking for figures or happenings that points spite against catholics and their doctrine.

I no dey waste time to chase dem.. Go and preach in bauchi, I heard many people there have not heard of christ.

Smdh
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by texanomaly(f): 2:44pm On Sep 22, 2013
*Kails*:


damn...
In his defense...you have everyone in an uproar. I'm on to you...

ANARCHIST!!!!!
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by immunno(m): 2:44pm On Sep 22, 2013
ammyluv2002: Guy, watch what you say ok......don't ever compare our saviour Jesus to the Angels. The bible made it clear on Trinity (God the father, Jesus the son and the Holy Spirit) you see any Angel for there? undecided
. were exactly in the Bible is trinity mentioned or made clear
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debroslink: 2:44pm On Sep 22, 2013
Looking for the blessed Hope, and glorious appearing of the Great God and Saviour Jesus Christ.

@ Obadiah 777, u come to nairaland to deceive over 1 million members that Jesus our Lord and Saviour is an arch angel?
You compare Michael, who couldn't cast out Satan by himself with Jesus?
Michael is just one of the chief angels in heaven, and you compare him with Jesus who created him?
Do you fear God at all?
U mean angel Michael died for your sins?
Why didn't angel Michael overcome Satan with his own blood in revelation 12:11?
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This is BLASPHEMY of the highest order!!!

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debroslink: 2:51pm On Sep 22, 2013
immunno: . were exactly in the Bible is trinity mentioned or made clear
Bible is Scripture... cleared
Hell fire is lake of fire... cleared
Trinity is Godhead.... CLEARED.
BIBLE, HELL FIRE, TRINITY, RAPTURE, HOLY COMMUNION, etc are NOT in d Bible.
But We believe in them.
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Leon90(m): 2:52pm On Sep 22, 2013
Archangel Michael is Jesus Christ's battle mame.
Whenever its time for battle dats wen he comes as Michael.

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaziOmenuko: 2:56pm On Sep 22, 2013
Such are the heresies preached by the Jehovah witness. I'm not surprised, the bible was specific about endtime false teachings.
Even if you quote all scriptures to back-up the sovereignty of Jesus, they will still maintain that He is an arch-angel. No need arguing with them.
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debroslink: 2:56pm On Sep 22, 2013
Leon90: Archangel Michael is Jesus Christ's battle mame.
Whenever its time for battle dats wen he comes as Michael.
Exodus 15:3 the Lord is a man of war. The Lord is His name. His name is not angel Michael.
Stop this false teaching.
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 2:58pm On Sep 22, 2013
Biblically, it appears Jesus is indeed the Archangel Michael. No sentiments needed.

Jesus is God's foremost messenger, leads angels and is reported as performing exact same action as Michael. Being the Archangel (or Chief of angels) does not demean Christ in any way.

This topic was debated almost exhaustively on this thread ( long read, though) - https://www.nairaland.com/1103279/michael-archangel-really-jesus-revelation

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 2:58pm On Sep 22, 2013
TinyPurpleBaby:

Haba no so e reach? they wanno kill you?? shocked shocked shocked

Fear catch me when I read this message, but then again, why are they so interested in you? It's not like you put it on their head...hmm...pregnant with meanings.....the blind eyes have got no beginnings.....


Good Morning
grin grin folks just mean for nothing. dayum. whats good with ya hun ? trust all is well and you are keeping warm. i need to start wearing bullet-proof jackets on NL grin
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 3:00pm On Sep 22, 2013
Debeloved87: believers class is the starting point for you to know who christ and what christianity is about and its meant for spiritual babes like you, so am recommending dat first for you before we go unto spiritual high teachings...i weigh u and i can see dat u are quite low to my spiritual knowlede.
@ the bolded. now i see why you are confused. you are into religion. you probably worship that white image of jesus too dont you ? i bet you have that white image in your house and your church dont you ? smdh cheesy
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Mintayo(m): 3:01pm On Sep 22, 2013
Debroslink: Looking for the blessed Hope, and glorious appearing of the Great God and Saviour Jesus Christ.

@ Obadiah 777, u come to nairaland to deceive over 1 million members that Jesus our Lord and Saviour is an arch angel?
You compare Michael, who couldn't cast out Satan by himself with Jesus?
Michael is just one of the chief angels in heaven, and you compare him with Jesus who created him?
Do you fear God at all?
U mean angel Michael died for your sins?
Why didn't angel Michael overcome Satan with his own blood in revelation 12:11?
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This is BLASPHEMY of the highest order!!!
i dnt knw why ppl are missing this Rev 12:11.
Jesus is not angel Micheal.
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debroslink: 3:03pm On Sep 22, 2013
TroGunn: Biblically, it appears Jesus is indeed the Archangel Michael. No sentiments needed.

Jesus is God's foremost messenger, leads angels and is reported as performing exact same action as Michael. Being the Archangel (or Chief of angels) does not demean Christ in any way.

This topic was debated almost exhaustively on this thread ( long read, though) - https://www.nairaland.com/1103279/michael-archangel-really-jesus-revelation
Stop spreading falsehood. Michael is NOT d chief princes, but ONE OF the chief princes. Read below...
Daniel 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 3:04pm On Sep 22, 2013
Leon90: Archangel Michael is Jesus Christ's battle mame.
Whenever its time for battle dats wen he comes as Michael.
well this is the post of the day. in fact let me add cherry on top for you

exodus 15 vs 3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 3:04pm On Sep 22, 2013
Debroslink:
Exodus 15:3 the Lord is a man of war. The Lord is His name. His name is not angel Michael.
Stop this false teaching.

The "Lord" there is not Jesus, but his father Jehovah/Yahweh. You do realise that in some Bible translations, the name of God (pronounced Yahweh or Jehovah) is substituted by translators to "Lord" or "LORD" (in caps), following dubious Jewish traditions.

Here are other quotes of Exodus 15:3, where God's name is not replaced.
World English Bible - Yahweh is a man of war. Yahweh is his name.

Young's Literal Translation - Jehovah is a man of battle; Jehovah is His name.
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaziOmenuko: 3:06pm On Sep 22, 2013
abbeywasc:
please cite relevant scriptures. avnt read any place where he also said he is equal to Jehovah or that he is Him in flesh.

I hate arguing with Jehovah witness folks, but I will oblige you;

John 10:30: "I and my father are one."
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 3:08pm On Sep 22, 2013
bookface:


First, the fact that the Lord Jesus descends "with an archangel's voice" does not automatically mean that it is his own voice spoken of. This passage simply says that an archangel's voice will accompany the Lord's descent from heaven, in the same manner that the bailiff's voice "All rise!" accompanies the judge's entrance into the courtroom.

Second, Hebrews 1:5 says, "For example, to which of the angels did he [God] ever say: 'You are my son; I, today, I have become your father'?" . The answer to the question is, of course, "none."

Thus, if God never called an angel his Son, then Michael--who is an angel--cannot be the Son. The fact that Michael is an archangel does not change anything, as he is still an angel by nature. An archangel is simply a "higher order" of angel, but an angel nonetheless; "arch-" simply means "ruling" or "high ranking."


Jehovah witnesses should really stop spreading filth!


Lucifer himself was an arch angel, so was Gabriel. The bible says of Lucifer:

Ezekiel 28:13
"You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering: the sardius, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created."

Isaiah 14 reveals the fall of Lucifer from the heights of heaven, which resulted in his status as the creature that he is today:

"How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning...For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.'"


God creates angels, then he creates higher angels, but they all worship at the feet of Christ!

When God brings His firstborn into the world, He says, ‘Let all God's angels worship Him.’ In speaking of the angels He says, ‘He makes his angels winds, his servants flames of fire.’ But about the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’”

The hierarchy of heavenly beings is made clear in this passage—angels worship Jesus who, as God, is alone worthy of worship. No angel is ever worshiped in Scripture; therefore, Jesus cannot be Michael or any other angel. The angels are called sons of God (Genesis 6:2-4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7), but Jesus is THE Son of God (Hebrews 1:8; Matthew 4:3-6).

nice work. I will respond to all these later. though some of your submissions have already been attended to above.
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 3:08pm On Sep 22, 2013
Debroslink:
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This is BLASPHEMY of the highest order!!!
whats blasphemy is that you are in darkness. we need to bring you of the darkness and into the light brother. you have spiritual myopia. we are here to help you. a wise man once said 'we all need somebody to lean on, lean on me'. unburden all your ignorance on me and let me rectify them for you. grin
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by philfearon(m): 3:08pm On Sep 22, 2013
Maximus85:

Is Jesus the Archangel Michael?

▪ Put simply, the answer is yes. The custom of being called by more than one name is common in many cultures. The same situation occurs with names in the Bible. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also named Israel. (Genesis 35:10) The apostle Peter is named in five different ways—Symeon, Simon, Peter, Cephas, and Simon Peter. (Matthew 10:2; 16:16; John 1:42; Acts 15:7, 14)

How can we be sure that Michael is another name for Jesus? Consider the following Scriptural evidence.

The Bible contains five references to the mighty spirit creature Michael. Three occurrences are in the book of Daniel. At Daniel 10:13, 21, we read that a dispatched angel is rescued by Michael, who is called “one of the foremost princes” and “the prince of you people.” Next, at Daniel 12:1, we learn that in the time of the end, “Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people.”

A further mention of Michael occurs at Revelation 12:7, which describes “Michael and his angels” as fighting a vital war that results in the ousting of Satan the Devil and his wicked angels from heaven.
Notice that in each of the above-mentioned cases, Michael is portrayed as a warrior angel battling for and protecting God’s people, even confronting Jehovah’s greatest enemy, Satan.
Jude verse 9 calls Michael “the archangel.” The prefix “arch” means “principal” or “chief,” and the word “archangel” is never used in the plural form in the Bible. The only other verse in which an archangel is mentioned is at 1 Thessalonians 4:16, where Paul describes the resurrected Jesus, saying: “The Lord [Jesus] himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet.” So Jesus Christ himself is here identified as the archangel, or chief angel.

In view of the foregoing, what can we conclude? Jesus Christ is Michael the archangel. Both names—Michael (meaning “Who Is Like God?”) and Jesus (meaning “Jehovah Is Salvation”)—focus attention on his role as the leading advocate of God’s sovereignty. Philippians 2:9 states: “God exalted him [the glorified Jesus] to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name.”

It is important to note that the human birth of Jesus was not the beginning of his life. Before Jesus was born, Mary was visited by an angel who told her that she would conceive a child by means of holy spirit and that she should name the child Jesus. (Luke 1:31) During his ministry, Jesus often spoke of his prehuman existence.—John 3:13; 8:23, 58.

So Michael the archangel is Jesus in his prehuman existence. After his resurrection and return to heaven, Jesus resumed his service as Michael, the chief angel, “to the glory of God the Father.”—Philippians 2:11.
You all are the same...So,after quoting me,you went ahead to still write This?
Did u even read the passages i listed above?
The 1Thessalonians 4vs16 you quoted does not have "in the Voice of an Archangel....."...What is written there is "With the Voice of an Archangel,and The sound of the Trumpet of God"...Stop Twistin tinz..
Did u read Colossians 1vs16?
Did u Read John 1vs1?
Like i said earlier,u guys just stare truth in the face,but finds it hard to acept..May God help u people
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debeloved87(m): 3:09pm On Sep 22, 2013
obadiah777: @ the bolded. now i see why you are confused. you are into religion. you probably worship that white image of jesus too dont you ? i bet you have that white image in your house and your church dont you ? smdh cheesy
haha...look at ur foolishness. What a blind seer and a deprave.d man you are...Every recruit pass through orientation..i never said what it is ALL ABOUT...but the basics are being shed light unto, the things of the spirit are too deep for a feeble mind like urs to grasp..i dnt worship religion, but we that worship GOD do so in SPIRIT and in TRUTH.
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaziOmenuko: 3:09pm On Sep 22, 2013
obadiah777: well this is the post of the day. in fact let me add cherry on top for you

exodus 15 vs 3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name

The scriptures you quote has no correlation with the topic of discourse. You ain't fooling no one. Jesus said specifially in John 10;30 that He and God are one. Now, quote a scripture where it is stated categorically that Jesus is an arch-angel. Stop saying that it was meant for spiritual matured minds.
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debroslink: 3:11pm On Sep 22, 2013
TroGunn:

The "Lord" there is not Jesus, but his father Jehovah/Yahweh. You do realise that in some Bible translations, the name of God (pronounced Yahweh or Jehovah) is substituted by translators to "Lord" or "LORD" (in caps), following dubious Jewish traditions.

Here are other quotes of Exodus 15:3, where God's name is not replaced.
World English Bible - Yahweh is a man of war. Yahweh is his name.

Young's Literal Translation - Jehovah is a man of battle; Jehovah is His name.

Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a MAN of war: the LORD is his name.
JESUS is Lord. Michael is not Lord. Jesus is a man (God in the flesh ). Michael is just an angel, never a man.

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debroslink: 3:13pm On Sep 22, 2013
obadiah777: whats blasphemy is that you are in darkness. we need to bring you of the darkness and into the light brother. you have spiritual myopia. we are here to help you. a wise man once said 'we all need somebody to lean on, lean on me'. unburden all your ignorance on me and let me rectify them for you. grin
I lean on Jesus, the Rock of ages. All other ground is sinking sand. Michael is never a Rock.

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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by sureway1(m): 3:15pm On Sep 22, 2013
Any thread you see frosbel, obadiah666 et al...always take the oposite of what they believe...

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