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| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 3:53pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
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| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 3:54pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Debeloved87: smdh..pity unto ur miserable disciples.  we gone get you walking very soon sire. you are still crawling. 1 Like |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by maxwelljohn525: 3:54pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
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| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 3:56pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
TinyPurpleBaby:western is good ? you ever see those ads ? you take it for headache but the side effects are stomach ache and blindness. or this melecin is for digestive troubles but the side effect is that your eye balls can fall off  |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by omoawori(m): 3:57pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
U mean this guy?
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| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 3:58pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Who Is Michael the Archangel? THE spirit creature called Michael is not mentioned often in the Bible. However, when he is referred to, he is in action. In the book of Daniel, Michael is battling wicked angels; in the letter of Jude, he is disputing with Satan; and in Revelation, he is waging war with the Devil and his demons. By defending Jehovah’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies, Michael lives up to the meaning of his name —“Who Is Like God?” But who is Michael? At times, individuals are known by more than one name. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also known as Israel, and the apostle Peter, as Simon. (Genesis 49:1, 2 ; Matthew 10:2 ) Likewise, the Bible indicates that Michael is another name for Jesus Christ, before and after his life on earth. Let us consider Scriptural reasons for drawing that conclusion. Archangel. God’s Word refers to Michael “the archangel.” ( Jude 9) This term means “chief angel.” Notice that Michael is called the archangel. This suggests that there is only one such angel. In fact, the term “archangel” occurs in the Bible only in the singular, never in the plural. Moreover, Jesus is linked with the office of archangel. Regarding the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 states: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” Thus the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel. This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael. Army Leader. The Bible states that “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon…and its angels.” (Revelation 12:7 ) Thus, Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. (Revelation 19:14-16 ) And the apostle Paul specifically mentions “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7 ; Matthew 16:27 ; 24:31 ; 1 Peter 3:22 ) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41 ) Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.* www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/who-is-michael-the-archangel/ |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by philfearon(m): 3:59pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
@Obadiah777, MICAH Also means "Who is like God".... So,Prophet Micah is now "Jesus" as a Prophet of Old? Dude,You are just Blind...Open ur eyez to the World of Reality... Make i Watch Man City vs Man u first........* Coming back* |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by SalC: 3:59pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
obadiah777: yes you are right. all angels worship him because he is the arch-angel. he is their leader. you do err. nowhere in that verse did it mention micheal worship jesus. your own vain opinionsSo the leader of the angels now deserves worship? And here I was thinking worship only belongs to God. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by iykemanchi(m): 4:00pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
If Jesus is arch-angle. Micheal Who named Him Emmanuel. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:02pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
TinyPurpleBaby:oh yeah now we got songs like 'popped a molly am sweating' lmao. yup definitely end times we are in, speaking of which yes i nominated a few threads for frontpage this being one of em. i figured this is a controversial thread that would bring out the anger in some folks. i love controversy. no point putting a thread on frontpage that everybody would agree to right ? thats boring. scripture says >>>>>>> proverbs 25 vs 9 Debate thy cause with thy neighbour himself; and discover not a secret to another: <<< i intend to do just that maam, debate my cause that is |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:02pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sal C: So the leader of the angels now deserves worship? And here I was thinking worship only belongs to God. Is It Proper to Worship Jesus? THROUGHOUT the centuries, many in Christendom have worshiped Jesus Christ as if he were Almighty God. Jesus himself, however, directed attention and worship only to Jehovah God. For example, when prodded to do an act of worship to the Devil, Jesus said: “It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.” (Matthew 4:10 ) Later Jesus instructed his disciples: “Do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.”— Matthew 23:9 . To a Samaritan woman, Jesus described the type of worship that individuals must give to God. Their worship must be based on spirit and truth. Indeed, “the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him.” ( John 4:23, 24 ) Yes, reverent adoration should be expressed only to God. To render worship to anyone or anything else would be a form of idolatry, which is condemned in both the Hebrew and the Greek Scriptures. —Exodus 20:4, 5; Galatians 5:19, 20. ‘But,’ some may counter, ‘does the Bible not indicate that we must also worship Jesus? Did Paul not say at Hebrews 1:6 : “Let all the angels of God worship him [Jesus]”?’ (King James Version) How can we understand this scripture in the light of what the Bible says about idolatry? Worship in the Bible First, we have to understand what Paul meant here by worship. He used the Greek word pro·sky·ne′o. Unger’s Bible Dictionary says that this word literally means to ‘kiss the hand of someone in token of reverence or to do homage.’ An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, by W. E. Vine, says that this word “denotes an act of reverence, whether paid to man . . . or to God.” In Bible times pro·sky·ne′o often included literally bowing down before someone of high stature. Consider the parable Jesus gave of the slave who was unable to repay a substantial sum of money to his master. A form of this Greek word appears in this parable, and in translating it the King James Version says that “the servant therefore fell down, and worshipped [form of pro·sky·ne′o ] him [the king], saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.” ( Matthew 18:26 ; italics ours.) Was this man committing an idolatrous act? Not at all! He was merely expressing the kind of reverence and respect due the king, his master and superior. Such acts of obeisance, or expressions of respect, were fairly common in the Orient of Bible times. Jacob bowed down seven times upon meeting his brother, Esau. ( Genesis 33:3 ) Joseph’s brothers prostrated themselves, or did obeisance, before him in honor of his position at the Egyptian court. ( Genesis 42:6 ) In this light we can better understand what happened when the astrologers found the young child Jesus, whom they recognized as “the one born king of the Jews.” As rendered in the King James Version, the account tells us that they “fell down, and worshipped [pro·sky·ne′o ] him.”— Matthew 2:2, 11. Clearly, then, the word pro·sky·ne′o, rendered “worship” in some Bible translations, is not reserved exclusively for the type of adoration due Jehovah God. It can also refer to the respect and honor shown to another person. In an effort to avoid any misunderstanding, some Bible translations render the word pro·sky·ne′o at Hebrews 1:6 as “pay him homage” (New Jerusalem Bible), “honour him” (The Complete Bible in Modern English), “bow down before him” (Twentieth Century New Testament ), or “do obeisance to him” (New World Translation). Jesus Is Worthy of Obeisance Is Jesus worthy of such obeisance? Most decidedly, yes! In his letter to the Hebrews, the apostle Paul explains that as the “heir of all things,” Jesus has “sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places.” (Hebrews 1:2-4 ) Thus, “in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.”— Philippians 2:10,11 . Outstandingly, Christ will soon use this exalted position and the extensive executive powers that go with it to transform this earth into a global paradise. Under God’s direction, and as a result of the ransom sacrifice of Jesus, he will rid the world of all sadness, pain, and sorrow for the benefit of those who submit to his righteous rule. Is he therefore not worthy of our honor, respect, and obedience?— Psalm 2:12; Isaiah 9:6; Luke 23:43; Revelation 21:3, 4 . “A God Exacting Exclusive Devotion” The Bible clearly indicates, however, that our worship—in the sense of religious reverence and devotion— must be addressed solely to God. Moses described him as “a God exacting exclusive devotion.” And the Bible exhorts us to “worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”— Deuteronomy 4:24; Revelation 14:7 . Jesus certainly occupies a pivotal role in true worship, one worthy of honor and respect. (2 Corinthians 1:20, 21; 1 Timothy 2:5 ) He is the only way through which we are able to approach Jehovah God. ( John 14:6 ) Accordingly, true Christians do well to direct their worship only to Jehovah God, the Almighty. wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102000250 |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:06pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
philfearon: @Obadiah777, MICAH Also means "Who is like God"....you do err. i have provided several precepts upon precepts to back it up. but see you have spiritual astigmatism coupled with the spirit of scoffing to see the reality placed in front of you. just stiff necked and rebellious for nothing smdh |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:08pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sal C: So the leader of the angels now deserves worship? And here I was thinking worship only belongs to God.i dont even think you know the meaning of the word 'angel'. what does that word mean ? |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:09pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
obadiah777: you do err. i have provided several precepts upon precepts to back it up. but see you have spiritual astigmatism coupled with the spirit of scoffing to see the reality placed in front of you. just stiff necked and rebellious for nothing smdh BLOODY LIE!!!!!!!!! Micah means Poor or Humble, what kind of bomboclat lie is that!?  |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by SalC: 4:11pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
@ Laalamed. Thanks for your post but I have a reason for directing that question to Obadiah777. Hopefully someday I will refer to this post for clarifications. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:13pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
TinyPurpleBaby:he right lol. that still dont prove nothing though. we have provided precepts upon precepts to confound the gainsayers with this sound doctrine Micah (/ˈmaɪkə/; Hebrew: מִיכָה, Modern Mikha Tiberian Mîḵā) is a given name. Micah is the name of several people in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), and means "who is like God?". The name is sometimes found with theophoric extensions. Suffix theophory in Yah and in Yahweh results in Michaiah or Michaihu (Hebrew: מִיכָיְהוּ, Modern Mikhayhu Tiberian Mîḵā́yhû), meaning who is like Yahweh? [1] Suffix theophory in El results in Michael (Hebrew: מִיכָאֵל, Modern Mikha'el Tiberian Mîḵāʼēl), meaning "who is like God?". |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by SalC: 4:14pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
obadiah777: i dont even think you know the meaning of the word 'angel'. what does that word mean ?Why not explain that as well. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:17pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Sal C: Why not explain that as well.now we are starting to see your shortcoming. you dont know what it means is why you hold the position you hold. how are you going to disagree with something you dont know the meaning off ? smdh anyway angel means messenger of God. what was the message ? to unite both jews and gentiles unto God john 11 vs 51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; 52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:18pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
obadiah777: he right lol. that still dont prove nothing though. we have provided precepts upon precepts to confound the gainsayers with this sound doctrine Hm, good then.  I see |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:20pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Yooguyz: @op, you are quoting scriptures out of contexthellooo Why do u keep on typing 'Jesus is God in flesh' as if it is written in ur bible or is dat ur hobby? And again, when Michael said 'the Lord rebuke you' does dat mean dat the Lord he was talking about was Jesus christ? If ur bible too dey confuse u, why not get an easy to read (and understand) version?1 Like |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by mrakin(m): 4:20pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
I have followed this discussion from page one. I think the most important thing for Christians is to draw close to God. We should avoid deliberate sin and we should not be hypocritical in our service to God. All this going to heaven, the arc-angel etc are secondary. The basic truth of the bible: 1. God is our creator and we ought to worship HIM in spirit and truth with our whole mind and our whole strength. 2. Jesus Christ is God's only-begotten son. He was with God in heaven before he came down to earth to die for our sins in lieu of the animal scrifices offered back then in Israel. 3. We all will be judged. There is a reward for those that will be declared righteous. The unrighteous shall be destroyed. If you want to gain everlasting life, first thing is straighten your life and let it comform with bible standard. However the truth is that Jesus Christ is not our almighty God. He is our saviour, our king of God's kingdom, our redeemer, our mighty god. He was formerly the arc-angel before he came down to earth. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by SalC: 4:21pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
TinyPurpleBaby:Whom exactly are you angry with ? Seems you quoted the wrong post. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:22pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Yooguyz: @op, you are quoting scriptures out of contexthellooo Why do u keep on typing 'Jesus is God in flesh' as if it is written in ur bible or is dat ur hobby? And again, when Michael said 'the Lord rebuke you' does dat mean dat the Lord he was talking about was Jesus christ? If ur bible too dey confuse u, why not get an easy to read (and understand) version? |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:23pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Yooguyz: @op, you are quoting scriptures out of contexthellooo Why do u keep on typing 'Jesus is God in flesh' as if it is written in ur bible or is dat ur hobby? And again, when Michael said 'the Lord rebuke you' does dat mean dat the Lord he was talking about was Jesus christ? If ur bible too dey confuse u, why not get an easy to read (and understand) version? |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:24pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
message 2 matthew 15 vs 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. <<< he is on a mission ? a messsenger from God. what is an angel ? an·gel [eyn-juhl] Show IPA noun a messenger, especially of God. so christ is an angel whether you all choose to accept it or not and once you get over the fact that he is an angel then you can cross the next hurdle which is accepting that he is arch-angel Micheal |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by SalC: 4:28pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
obadiah777: now we are starting to see your shortcoming. you dont know what it means is why you hold the position you hold. how are you going to disagree with something you dont know the meaning off ? smdhThe infallible Obadiah! From your explanation, are you saying the leader of the messengers of God deserves worship? A simple yes or no will do sire. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by princesschloe: 4:30pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Obadiah are u for real? i stare in awe having read through your posts. It is my sincere prayer that God shows u the truth before it is too late. @ all, pls lets drop this topic. its obvious it wont convince or edify anybody, rather it will only rubbish the name of our lord and saviour JESUS the more. peace. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by SalC: 4:37pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
obadiah777: message 2My concern now is not weather or not Jesus is an angel. Assuming I accept he's an angel and Heb 1 V 6 made it clear that other angels worship him. The question now is, how many entities deserve worship? |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by texanomaly(f): 4:37pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
princess chloe: Obadiah are u for real? i stare in awe having read through your posts. It is my sincere prayer that God shows u the truth before it is too late. @ all, pls lets drop this topic. its obvious it wont convince or edify anybody, rather it will only rubbish the name of our lord and saviour JESUS the more. peace.Exactly: Obadiah777: anarchy be thy name! smh |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:39pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
I enjoy such biblical mind rattling arguments by those who feel they already understood the bible but I can't participate in it cos I love my state of confusion in that regards, also I hate religion but love Christ, the word of God aka bible and the akwa ibom ofe akwu with fresh fish and periwinkle dat my babe gave me to eat this afternoon 1 Like |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Mintayo(m): 4:40pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
princess chloe: Obadiah are u for real? i stare in awe having read through your posts. It is my sincere prayer that God shows u the truth before it is too late. @ all, pls lets drop this topic. its obvious it wont convince or edify anybody, rather it will only rubbish the name of our lord and saviour JESUS the more. peace. |
| Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:40pm On Sep 22, 2013 |
Obadiah have the most articulate and persuasive argument here. |
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