Ozichim:
You are right, tell us more, how the beast will manipulate the society and attack Christian, and make the world see Christians as Enemy.
All you have listed as the beast ‘s manifesto and much more than that are all included in Christian preaching and Christian have been pleading, begging human race to change their ways, and to show love.
Yet they are waiting for a man that will take some of the things in the Bible and now demands that He is the true good man and make people do hate and attack Christian.
We (Christians) are ready; Christians have been expecting the beast for more than 2000 years age. For Christian God to tell them exactly what will happen in the next ten years, should tell you that He is God indeed.
You cannot deceive Christians, Satan is chief manipulator but our (Christians) God will help, deliver and give us victory in Jesus name. Amen!

They say Jesus is coming "VERY SOON" and after over 2000 years, Christians are still waiting. SMH How soon is Jesus's soon?

They also said he will be coming like a thief in the night. We scientists will be waiting like Anti-Robbery Squad.

Don't go and do something meaningful with your life. Keep waiting for Jesus after over 2000 years of "HE IS COMING" promises.

BTW are you a male or female?

rudedough:

They say Jesus is coming "VERY SOON" and after over 2000 years, Christians are still waiting. SMH How soon is Jesus's soon?

They also said he will be coming like a thief in the night. We scientists will be waiting like Anti-Robbery Squad too.

Don't go and do something meaningful with your life. Keep waiting for Jesus after over 2000 years of "HE IS COMING" promises.

Kennedyiheme: Lolz I used to be a devoted christian, but suddenly I started asking myself questions...."I was given birth to by my mother only to grow up to someone telling me about some kinda doctrine, brainwashing me, look its hard to blive bt if there is a God nigeria wouldn't be like dis, our so called christians have been praying since wen the missionaries brought christianity to nigeria, bt still yet, dis contry has remained the same, america and other nations are not spiritual as we are but things work out well in there economy. Its all because they have good and dedicated leaders that would sacrifice anytin for there country. Its dedication,hardwork,loyalty, and genuinity, and not PRayers. Pray from now till 2moro, nigeria wouldn't change until our leaders do the right thing

rudedough:

They say Jesus is coming "VERY SOON" and after over 2000 years, Christians are still waiting. SMH How soon is Jesus's soon?

They also said he will be coming like a thief in the night. We scientists will be waiting like Anti-Robbery Squad too.

Don't go and do something meaningful with your life. Keep waiting for Jesus after over 2000 years of "HE IS COMING" promises.

BTW are you male or female?

rudedough:

Bro once you die your body decompose. Your brain decompose first within 2 days. You cannot think or recall anything so there's absolutely no way you'll realise what heaven is.

Like I said earlier, this hell fire thing is the fear of all Christians. But why does the bible have to threaten followers with that crap all the time? But how could you believe such crap in the 1st place?

Aromas:

You really lack common sense. A respect to Prophet is a respect to God likewise our parents. May HE 4give u

Ozichim:

STOP calling yourself a scientist, you are not a scientist at all, most scientists believe that there is God and most are Christian.
Be bold and tell everybody that you are a witch. You are an occult man.
But I'm ready to attend to your question even though you have not answered my own question.
You are just avoiding the question.

God is the creator of the universe and put human in earth. Human has no right to demand that they be created to be like fish or goat. God, been the owner of everything has right to destroy the earth since he made it to start with. He has the right to tell everybody where to leave. God has the right to take life since he can also give right. He assigns the Jews where to leave and so the Jews had to remove every opposition (including human) to occupy the place.

If you still doubt the existence of God then why do you believe that Adolf Hitler once lived in Germany? And why do you also believe that the world fought WW2. You just saw it in history book and hear about it.
So also, Christian God has done so many things that can be proved physically. You can go to Egypt to confirm some of the things He did as recorded in the Bible.
You are a liar to start with; you are serving the god you are hiding.

There's no need to be agitated. We're having a civil discussion . I'm not a cutting edge scientist but I'm an MSc scientist so I know a little kinkini science And I agree I'm a wizard for not believing in your Jesus

Your questions are irrelevant to the discussion, you want to bring witchcraft and wizardry into a modern day discussion which is unacceptable. Feel free to discuss that with your village high priest

God did not create the world, the world is approximately 4.5 Billion years old and man has evolved from ordinary organism.

Just to proof to you that God didn't create anything on earth. Let's do some basic science on how water evolved on earth.

The atmosphere contains water molecule but due to high coalition of particles and radiation present, the water molecules stays in its gaseous state.

However at a lower surface temperature, there is loss of radiation and dew begins to form. You and I know that if you put a bowl outside in a cold night, there'll be water inside in the morning. Imagine putting that bowl outside for 4.5 Billion years

It is incumbent also to note that in the early days, the earth was void of carbon emissions so the earth's atmosphere was a lot more colder and dew form more rapidly.

Dew drops from the atmosphere acquired over a long period of time formed aquifers and ta dah!! you got your mighty ocean. Do you see how realistic it is?

Now tell me about how God said "Let there be water, and there was water."

God did not create the earth my friend. Your God kinda seem like a rascal to me, he should be arrested for murder, vandalism and defamation of character , he has destroyed the earth twice in your story book bible yet the earth mysteriously recuperated.

Your God created Adam and Eve and Eve gave birth to 3 "SONS" only, yet the world is over populated. Abeg sey man dey born pickin? Where the sons wife?

God does not give life, he cannot take life either. He simple does not exist.

Stop making comparisons with Hitler, it's stu/pid cos everyone has seen his pictures and videos. WW2 is on video too. Everything you can compare with has a proof. But show us just one proof of God

What did God do in Egypt? Dude! You don't have any proof of God, I've argued this with even Pastors and they gave me the "May God forgive you" excuse and ran away.

Please tell me if you're a male or female? I just want to know so that I can address you properly. I've been calling you a dude and that's not gentlemanly.

GODWINGODSON:
Some scientists found the SCRIPTURES OF THE BIBLE IN SPACE AND A MESSAGE 'JESUS IS COMING' immediately all of them gave thier life to CHRIST scientists who are mostly atheist

WTF!! Someone please tell me I didn't just read that.

Who were the Scientists?

What was their mission in space?

Every space craft has surround cameras so it must have been caught on tape. Do you have proof?

Is this what it has gotten to in God's Church? The desperation to proof that God exists.

I will not lie again. Repeat after me, I will not lie again.

GODWINGODSON:
It is a thing of the spirit let me ask you directly what would you do? Pls reply me

Man there's no spirit. You gotta stop watching home videos.

rudedough:

Man there's no spirit. You gotta stop watching home videos too.

m.k.o2005:

Even scientists know there are spirits ! Do you agree ?

God help us

rudedough:

Hahaha You've been watching too much ghost raiders LOL

rudedough:

Hahaha You've been watching too much ghost raiders LOL

m.k.o2005:

It's long i last spoke to an atheist ! But even if u don't believe,why not just 'cheat this God' ? Think about it bro !

God help us

rudedough:

What do you mean by "cheat this God"?

rudedough:

What do you mean by "cheat this God"?

ghostofsparta:

Perhaps he meant science should better than cloning. Create a human being.

God did not create man in the 1st place so who would scientists be competing with?.

Why don't we ask God the creator of man to show us an example himself for a start.

God should go take a sit at the back with his scammers pastors where they can discuss Scam Church business.

GODWINGODSON:
Like testing the waters just going according to his word just incase he exists WHICH I KNOW HE DOES

I'm finding it hard understanding you. Please speak in plain English or has excessive study of the story book bible affected your grammar?

ghostofsparta: @rudedough

But guy I too have a 'to hell with Abrahamic gods' attitude, however do you believe in what I have seen reason to have termed YAS(Yoruba Advanced Sciences)? Because I think YAS should be the actual term for the erroneous naming 'juju'. I'm referring to feats like native metaphysical version of bullet proof, invisibility, teleportation, resistance to cuts.

Honestly I do not know anything about your YAS. I try to be as unbiased as possible in my criticism of other religions. Perhaps, not until I have scrutinised every evidence beyond reasonable doubt before ascertaining my conclusion. That's what Science has taught me.

I like to respect other people's choice of religion and I will always be this way until confronted or asked of my personal opinion.

If I haven't read the bible, I have read it's whole content for 3 consecutive times, I have also read other books too related to the bible. I don't think I have studied any Scientific book the way I have studied and understood the bible.

I have studied the Quran also and most of its contents share correlating similarities with the bible's old testament. Except the divinity of God (The 3 persons in one God ), Jesus was a mere messenger and was not crucified, the holy spirit is not God and a few other.

I have not ventured into the world of your "YAS" so I have no right whatsoever to share an opinion. Son! you can believe in whatever religion you want to, ain't no one got the right to judge you. If it works for you, then it's good for you.

Cheers!

Ugom87: What sort of question is this @ op....Do u need sm1 to tell u that Jesus is still more relevant than before? Hmmm

I'm tired of seeing Nigerians engage in hot debates without any "PROOF" whatsoever.

Do I have proof of Science relevance? Yes I do. Example: You are using a smart phone or a computer right now, and an Internet connection. And we are communicating in real time electronically. This was made possible through scientific research.

Now can you show us any proof of God's relevance in our world without reading from your storybook bible?

rudedough:

I'm tired of seeing Nigerians engage in hot debates without "PROOF" whatsoever.

Do I have proof of Science relevance? Yes I do. Example: You are using a smart phone or a computer right now, and an Internet connection. And we are communicating in real time electronically. This was made possible through scientific research.

Now can you show us any proof of God's relevance in our world without reading from your storybook bible?

Lincoln burrows:
@rudedough, how old are you? You actually look 17 and reason 17. I would have loved to engage you a bit but saying that New Testament was written in 1980, I decided to save my energy.

rudedough:

The new testament was added to the bible between 1940-1980. Proof me wrong. Anything short is unacceptable.

I find it pretty offensive when people bring age into a debate as a reason for being smarter than their counterpart.

I'm actually in my early 20s and already an MSc student in Medicine. I assume you're probably older and you think you're smarter, but you're not smart enough to know that between the ages of 18-20 the brain begins to decay due to high loss of myelin.

It's therefore logical to say that your baseless assumptions and re/tard/ed reasoning are as a result of a long term brain deterioration.

Back up your opinion with facts dude! I gave mine

Lincoln burrows:
Well msc student at 20 in medicine is a laudable achievement. But that still doesn't make u wise/smart as most of your comments here have shown.
Two questions for u

-how does not knowing about your brain decay due to myelin loss make one less smart?
-when did mere saying that new testaments were written in 1980 become a proof with fact? Or is it how facts are established in your own medicine field?
-you believd that brain decays between ages18-20 due to myelin. Why? Probably just because u were told to believe so by your tutors.


To be continued.....

We are not here to debate who's smarter or what happens in the world of medicine. We are talking about the publication dates of the new testament.

Your reaction to my opinion is obviously clouded with religious sentiments but please forget about your religion and let's face facts.

Why don't you do a little research on the dates your new testament chapters were added to the bible. And please don't look at the dates in the bible as they all stated that the "Lost manuscripts" were 40 A.D old.

If you can do a little research on the publication dates of the new testament and confirm that they were all between 1940-1980.

Then ask yourself, how come "coincidentally" lost manuscripts from 40 A.D miraculously fell into the hands of "religious leaders" and they were "mysteriously" writings about "Jesus"?

That's all I have to say sir. Christians don't like to research about anything that concerns God. They feel as though doing so means they're in doubt of their faith and it's blasphemy. Hence, the stup.iditly continues.

rudedough:

[b]We are not here to debate who's smarter or what happens in the world of medicine. We are talking about the publication dates of the new testament.

Your reaction to my opinion is obviously clouded with religious sentiments but please forget about your religion and let's face facts.

Why don't you do a little research on the dates your new testament chapters were added to the bible. And please don't look at the dates in the bible as they all stated that the "Lost manuscripts" were 40 A.D old.

If you can do a little research on the publication dates of the new testament and confirm that they were all between 1940-1980.

Then ask yourself, how come "coincidentally" lost manuscripts from 40 A.D miraculously fell into the hands of "religious leaders" and they were "mysteriously" writings about "Jesus"?

That's all I have to say sir. Christians don't like to research about anything that concerns God. They feel as though doing so means they're in doubt of their faith and it's a sin. Hence, the stup.iditly continues. [/b]

rudedough: And after 6 pages of hot debate. Not a single Christian have come forward with a proof of the existence of God. It's such a shame

Lincoln burrows:

Listen! Nobody would want to debate with you when you keep saying that the publication date for New Testament is between 1940-1980. It's very ridiculous. It's just like saying that Osama bin laden was a Christian. The research is simple- just type in New Testament in google, Wikipedia, etc and get your answers. I don't even need all that. My dad is about 70. He's been reading the bible since he was born. There was no addition since then. My grand dad also read the complete bible cos he was born into the Anglican communion even before WW1. And we discussed how the missionaries came to to the east very closely before he died. If you are not okay, google it. And BTW, you haven't told us where you got that your fact(1940-1980)from? Get these facts right so that we can proceed to the debate we have at hand about Jesus relevance.

P.s- my reaction is not clouded by religious sentiments. When atheists (like Christopher hitchenson)make strong points I recognize them and appreciate them. You too have made some good points but that date you are quoting is making you look stupid.

If Wikipedia is your source of proof then I'm afraid, you don't know how wiki works. I can edit wiki with my own point as we speak. It's an open source interactive web page.

Your dad couldn't have been reading the bible since he was born, he probably would have read the bible in his late teens or early 20s and that puts him in the know 50 years ago (1963). In 1963 the New Testament was already published.

Let's cut the crap. Do you have any other publication date or do you want to take us back to the 4th century and bring Constantine into the debate? Mind you, the new testament wasn't published at that time.

N.B: If you give me another dates, I won't argue, afterall no man is an island of knowledge. I'll re verify my source and also broaden my knowledge.

My interest is to engage in a more realistic debate on the relevance and/or authenticity of God & Jesus without referring to the Storybook bible. That's all I ask for.

Cheers

rudedough: And after 6 pages of hot debate. Not a single Christian have come forward with a proof of the existence of God. It's such a shame