ashieduplus: If your pastor teaches tithes ask hin these questions
1. Are you a jew to pay tithes?
2. Is he a levite? If yes, can he trace his geaneology to prove it?
3. Is your church the temple in Jerusalem?
4. Aren't we permitted to eat our tithes? (Deut. 14)
5. Shouldn't we give our tithes to widows, orphans and aliens?
6. Are we under the law? Or has Christ delivered us from the curse of the law?

Pastor Kun: Tithing as popular as it is in churches is one of the least understood doctrines in churches today. Even several preachers that preach it don't fully understand it and it's negative implication to the gospel of Christ they just preach it because it means more money in their pockets. However since a few of my brethen and myself started this enlightenment campaign on the biblical truth about tithes, a lot of NL members have come to the knowledge of truth about tithes and stopped being fleeced of their income.

I would like NL members who have discovered the truth and have been liberated by our writings to please come forward and share their experience with us.

ashieduplus: If he quotes Matthew 23 vs 23, ask him:
7. If he is a pharisee?
8. Whether Jesus had died already when He made the statement.
9. After Jesus' ressurrection, were tithes mentioned again as specific instructions to the body of christ?
10. Where tthes were equated with money in the scriptures?
11. Why wasn't it required in Acts 15?
Ask him for scriptural answers o. Don't let him deceive you with testimonies. EVen babalawo adherents have theirs...

zetel95:
Tithes is of God commandment, bring tens of all ur income into my house. N.B. If u dont pay to God, u will pay it to devil WATCH IT !!!

temilexis: I am so highly disappointed that the writer did not come up with any valuable details over his claims on why tithes are not necessary. I would have been very happy if you elaborated much on reasons why we should not give our one tenth.

psalmdave: HONESTLY I'M AFRAID OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THIS WORLD O,U CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN AND YOU ARE COMING HERE TO TALK AGAINST TITHING,WHAT U SHOULD SAY IS U DON'T BELIEVE IN IT,BUT YOU'RE SEEKING FOR POOR SOULS TO ALSO RUIN,I WAS THINKING THE SOCIAL MEDIA IS CAUSING HARM IN THE SENSE OF PORNOGRAPHY,CHATTING ETC BUT I'M SEEING BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD LIVE,U PEOPLE HAVE DECIEVED PEOPLE TO SAY SPEAKING IN TONGUES IS NOT OF GOD,NOW TITHING,THE NEXT ONE WILL BE FASTING...WHO KNOWS PRAYER MIGHT FOLLOW AFTERWARDS....GOD FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND HAVE MERCY UPON US FOR WE KNOW NOT WHAT WE DO

honeric01:

Sorry but who's against giving? Tithe in any form is a compulsory giving and has no reward in heaven according to Jesus in the parable of the poor widow.

Only willful giving is appreciated in heaven/attracts blessings.

Goshen360: Many Christians have made their pastors their Lord and saviour, whatever these pastors say to these Christians, is what stands. They don't check like the Bereans to see if what is taught is true.

Pastors on the other hand, mixes Judaism with Christianity and what we have today is confusion.

Some say tithe is what works for them. What then did Christ do for you? Because it works doesn't mean it Christian doctrine. Herbalist mix concorsion for people and it works. Cele people take folks to bath in the river, etc does that mean it right?

Attributing breakthroughs and blessings to tithe is fallen from grace and to such Christians, Christ died for nothing.

paris10: @all NL; if there's always a contentious issue about a particular subject, it is worth looking deep into it. And mind you, if anything sound or look good to be true, its probably is.

And for Xtians, is Jesus your example or someone else? Everything Jesus does was written in the Bible, especially the most important ones. Tithe wasn't Jesus prerogative and he never paid or emphasised on it. Not relevant.

Jesus message was clear: believe in me! Read Mathew 5. The blessings of God to His people was revealed in Genesis 2. NO CONDITION WAS ATTACHED TO IT.

Elliotwiz1: and who said paying tithes is compulsory? Did you read my posts?hmmm

psalmdave: HONESTLY I'M AFRAID OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THIS WORLD O,U CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN AND YOU ARE COMING HERE TO TALK AGAINST TITHING,WHAT U SHOULD SAY IS U DON'T BELIEVE IN IT,BUT YOU'RE SEEKING FOR POOR SOULS TO ALSO RUIN,I WAS THINKING THE SOCIAL MEDIA IS CAUSING HARM IN THE SENSE OF PORNOGRAPHY,CHATTING ETC BUT I'M SEEING BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD LIVE,U PEOPLE HAVE DECIEVED PEOPLE TO SAY SPEAKING IN TONGUES IS NOT OF GOD,NOW TITHING,THE NEXT ONE WILL BE FASTING...WHO KNOWS PRAYER MIGHT FOLLOW AFTERWARDS....GOD FORGIVE US OUR SINS AND HAVE MERCY UPON US FOR WE KNOW NOT WHAT WE DO

Elliotwiz1: jesus christ did not pay tithe, yes because tithe is to be paid to someone who you consider a spiritual father and no one was about Jesus when he was on earth, hence no need to pay tithe.

fr_evangel:

Let me clearly state here.
Some of those who do not believe in tithing, once did, but after "personal study" got the correct understanding of it.
Also, many of us would be receiving tithes now if we still believe. It's not about not wanting to pay tithe, as I personally would be receiving tithe as a pastor by now. It would have been an easy and sure way to raise funds for "the work".
Get it?
I am a preacher, I preached tithing, sacrificial giving, first fruits, seed connection (or whatever you want to call it) etc.
I am a giver till date, and ardent one at that. The Bible teaches us to be givers, but also shows how giving should be done.
Many of the things I preached back then were mostly "cut and paste" messages.
I listened to other preachers, including my senior pastors in the same ministry, and then preach same. I didn't have to study the bible for myself.
In fact I was taught not to stress myself trying to study for myself. I was taught to just listen and teach, that they have made it simple for me. etc. A perfect recipe for deviating from the written word.

honeric01:

Yes, they make it compulsory, thats why they have tithe cards, envelopes and register for it. Some churches use your record to attend to you when their attention is needed by you.

The every sunday 'lashing' and 'threat' is what? Is that not compulsion by threat and nagging/force/blackmail/brainwashing?

odalon: Matt 23:23
These you ought to do without leaving the OTHER ( TITHE PAYMENT) undone

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

honeric01:

And did his followers pay tithe to him since you claimed he didn't pay cos he was the spiritual leader?

After his ascension, did his apostles receive tithe from any of the early christians either?

Elliotwiz1: obviously the apostles of old recieved tithes! It's not on record, but It's very possible...most of them were evangelist who go about from places to places...e.g paul...he must have been funded through tithes...do you know the tithes you give in your churches are used to fun missionaries? I can tell you about that in my church...that is what it is used, to support those missionaries, to feed their families, so when you take it away What're you trying to do?

Candour:

I'm thrilled a pastor can be this honest to admit his own errors and make corrections.

God bless you sir and empower you more and more for the work of the ministry.

router123: Guys tithing is a mystery just as the blood Jesus shed for you is a mystery. If you understand hw the blood of one man (Jesus) washes away the sin of billions explain. According to heb7 if you read dat chapter will there is a line the that states that though we give mortal men the tithe but he (Christ )receives it. Tithe is a mean of acknowledging the blessings of God. If you work in a office setting you will knw dat most letters goes in pair. The original and an acknowledgement copy which will be signed by the recipient of the letter but kept by the sender so should the recepient try to play pranks in d future dat he never received such info the acknowledgement copy that he signed will be shown to him as a proof to counter his claim. So it is out tithe. When you pay ur tithe u r saying - God I got what u sent me But if u didn't sign the acknowledgement copy (pay tithe) he will blv the blessing was sent to d wrong address and will stop sending it there. One thing I personally love abt tithing is dat It awaken me to what I have realized so far cash cos you have to knw you total income before you calculate the tithe. And in most cases am supposed at wht have made so far therefore thinking for a better way of maximizing my resources. Am not a pastor and will never be. I just love God. If u r still nt clear u can ping me on 7648cf62

fr_evangel:
Amen.
Thank you sir.
You would be amazed how many friends, preachers and ministry founders who no longer tell their members to tithe or sow special seeds to "connect to their anointing".
I know a pastor that does not do any from of giving in his church. If you decide to support the work, he would accept, but it must be your decision and choice. If he teaches giving, it is about how you should help the poor, needy, fatherless, widows, and probably the church if you so which. He doesn't teach that your giving connects you to any form of "anointing" for breakthrough etc.
I have minister friends who have returned seeds to people and asked them to go share with their families and others.
One thing I know is that there is a remnant which will not bow to mammon!

Candour:

My dear, the bolded is a lie maybe not a deliberate one. None of the apostles were LEVITES . In fact Paul you mentioned was clearly said to be from tribe if Benjamin and they all knew the law of Moses if you do not.

The law clearly said ONLY LEVITES qualify to collect tithes so pls get that clear.

Just thought I should clear that point for you

Bidam: Look who is talking here. You conveniently dodged my question when i asked you why would Paul quote the mosaic law to support giving to ministers in 1 cor 9:13 and you are here twisting words and asking me about Hebrew or Greek meaning of principle SMH!!

Elliotwiz1: obviously the apostles of old recieved tithes! It's not on record, but It's very possible...most of them were evangelist who go about from places to places...e.g paul...he must have been funded through tithes...do you know the tithes you give in your churches are used to fund missionaries? I can tell you about that in my church...that is what it is used, to support those missionaries, to feed their families, so when you take it away What're you trying to do?....the twelve apostles did not pay tithe, because it was meaningless as that stage, the tithe you pay is used to support the ministers financially, the apostles were always with Jesus and would always share what they had, and they were not workers...after they met Jesus, most of them abandoned their means of livelyhood...their only financial support comes from gifts and stuffs like that from others.

Act 20:33 I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.
Act 20:34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
Act 20:35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

Eph 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Elliotwiz1: I've said times without number...even without paying your tithe you can enter heaven...do you select and read only a portion of the messages i post??I've never said it was compulsory...some* churches preache it as compulsory, but It's not!