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Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by abubaka101: 7:47am On Oct 03, 2013
mikehudson006:


@aye...You are not being realistic, you are just too ignorant to think wisely, every new administration has its own special advisers, If the govt couldn't aford the money they won't have signed into it at the first place or should we say the 2009 administration didn't elect a qualified Special adviser? Now wat ASUU is doing is vry right, if they don't fight for their right then when will they? EVery nigerians has its own right but we are too blind or scared to fight for it, so I guess this is a turning point for we Blind nigerians that FIGHTING AT THE RIGHT TIME WILL YIELD RIGHT RESULTS, we are being fed fake stories by the Govt very single day, Nigeria itself is a land of money but the real money is being looted into foreign accounts, Ghana fought so hard before they could have a very good education, now look at nigerians sending their kids to ghana to school including the politicians, how many ghanian wil you see in a nigerian university? If the strike last for a year it doesn't mattr cos "Rome wasnt built a day" the govt must comply... Well I hope av contributd positively
The most vivid problem in our university system is what ASUU is fighting for. But there are other issues that are destroying the system than the one ASUU presents.
For instance, there are lecturers who don't even have the right qualification. There are still more students who would bribe their way through, than those who actually read. There is also the issue of lecturers not doing proper research. These are just some issues.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Rossikk(m): 8:02am On Oct 03, 2013
Raggedy_Ann: Moreover, we have more universities than we actually need and because of that the admissions boards have the audacity to admit students with single digit jamb scores. Every state is expected to have a federal university! this madness is borne out of our useless quota system, the same system that inflates the senate with mediocrity receiving huge allocations. it's about time the streamlining begins. Why should we graduate 5000 passable graduates and maintain 100 schools when the 5000 can fit into one? It's a massive and senseless waste of infrastructure.

How do you expect to ''fit 5000 passable graduates into one school''? Then which unis will all the other hundreds of thousands of non-graduating students attend? You are wrong that we have too many universities. We don't have enough.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Nobody: 8:26am On Oct 03, 2013
Haba!
This is serious oooo.
A nation that lacks sincerity of her country men, won't get anything right.
Mind you, is not a curse.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Joshrob(m): 8:33am On Oct 03, 2013
berem: There's nothing outrageous about the money.The education sector needs proper funding.If our leaders can send their kids to foreign schools that are well funded,why should they not equally fund our own universities to meet up to international standard? The money required is small compared to the excessive looting going on in the presidency. angry

Did they build the foreign school under 4 year's?..they loot money in every country its not only in nigeria. We should condemn ASUU demand,its just to outrageous. Haba ASUU should be realistic I beg. Shooo
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by oyeludef(m): 8:37am On Oct 03, 2013
seriously bros (MODs) this tin suppose don reach front page o.
If d FG pays 3trillion to universities hw much should dey den pay to primary education wch is regarded as most important in UBE. if fg should heed their request den all other sectors will engage strike action.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by ceejayluv(m): 8:51am On Oct 03, 2013
McLuhan:
Fellow Nigerians, let's use our brains for once. The amount being bandied around represents the estimated cost of overhauling all the federal and state universities in Nigeria over a four-year period. This includes infrastructural costs such as the construction and equipping of libraries, laboratories, ultra-modern lecture theatres, studios, research facilities, simulators, offices, etc. It would also take care of take-off grants, research grants, conference funding, staff development, international collaboration, affiliation and liaison, personnel-related costs, and other overhead and capital appropriations in ALL government-owned universities in Nigeria.

Note that this was what government agreed to do, having cognisance of the decrepitude of our universities. This intervention was to be carried out in stages beginning with a four-year initial period. But in its customary tardiness and tepidity, government simply forgot about its written commitments and never implemented them.

Note too that the quoted amount is less than the annual budget of Harvard University alone. Note also that even a smaller country such as Ghana spends much more money per capita on tertiary education. And yet government wants us to believe that Nigeria is soon becoming one of the 20 most developed countries of the world. And yet we want our universities to be listed among the best in the world.

Consider too that government spent more than 3 trillion naira to bail out private banks - note, PRIVATE banks - during the banking sector crisis. Consider also that President Jonathan unilaterally extended an unsolicited financial largesse to Nollywood. Is it too much, then, to ask government to bail out ITS OWN universities - universities which government itself has admitted neglecting for a long time and which have become a national embarrassment and a laughing stock in global academic circles?

Let no one deceive us that government cannot afford it. It certainly can! Is this not the same country where a petroleum minister's children own private jets? Haven't we seen the pictures on the Internet? Is this not the same country that pays its Senate President more than 88 million naira monthly, as reported by The Punch? Is this not the same country where the President receives an annual feeding allowance of roughly a billion naira? Does Nigeria not boast the most expensive national legislature in the entire world? Are many of our governors not richer than some African countries? Do I need to mention names? Have we asked one of our most pugnacious governors in the South-South how much his private refinery is worth?

Let's stop blackmailing these lecturers. They are not the cause of Nigeria's downfall; neither are they the bane of our university system. Our corrupt politicians are, and until we hold them to account, Nigeria will still be the butt of coarse jokes all over the civilised world.
Spot-on.. Whoever feels education is expensive should wallow in ignorance.

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Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by chiefkoboko(m): 9:04am On Oct 03, 2013
Four sectors of the economy need absolute attentinon; education, power, health nd agricuture. If nigeria must grow, these sectors must not be joke with. It's so painful dat I'm suffri d effect of d strick. But we must pay a price in one form or d other 4 dis country to grow.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Nobody: 9:12am On Oct 03, 2013
abubaka101:
The most vivid problem in our university system is what ASUU is fighting for. But there are other issues that are destroying the system than the one ASUU presents.
For instance, there are lecturers who don't even have the right qualification. There are still more students who would bribe their way through, than those who actually read. There is also the issue of lecturers not doing proper research. These are just some issues.
@abubaka101
what you just stated is a primary issue, let the government comply with the said Memoranda they willingly signed too, Then we will deal with the lecturers incompetency, The Nigerian Universities lack enough funds and that was why the ASUU brought the Memoranda of Understanding into consideration and the government willingly signed into and also agreed in 2009 if the government couldnt afford the 800billion naira yearly they will never sign such a MEMORANDA.

Supposing your father or your uncle sorry to say is lecturer and he schooled abroad or let say he has a very very very high standard of education and a university is willing to hire him and willing to pay just 200k monthly will you accept such? or will you ever persuade your family to accept such? Of course you wont, so that is why the Universities will go for a lower lecturer that has fake documents to pose as its degrees but still yet the salary wont still be enough that is why lecturers will still ask the students for money, so the government needs to polish the educational sector with enough funds and that was the Memoranda they signed in 2009 so the universities can employ good lectures and also execute great plans.

BEFORE CORRUPTION CAN BE CLEARED IN THIS COUNTRY THEN WE NEED TO START FROM THE SECONDARY PEOPLE WHICH ARE THE (GOVERNMENTS) BEFORE WE DECIDE TO DEAL WITH THE PRIMARY TOPICS....

ASUU NEEDS MUST ME TENDS TO.... SIMPLE!!!!!!!
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by jj9ice(m): 9:38am On Oct 03, 2013
bloggernaija: These guys like the politicians are a bunch of jokers .
Lazy ,unthinking typical Nigerian .
In that organisation ,is there nobody there to do the maths that Nigeria cannot afford that much money ,even if the country was not corrupt?
That is about $7 billion in a country where over 50% are very very poor.
why niigerians like to view every issues with myhopic eye and leave the logic out of their thinking, Do know what it takes to enter to an agreements? the same govt that has accessed her resources and see thet see can afford the terms of agreement come to renege it again, what does that imply? sentiment apart, this is not done anywhere in the world and it has become the stick in the wheel of pregress of nigeria. the same govt that promised stable electricity, tranparency, security, and reneged on it, what do u expect?
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Williamso(m): 9:49am On Oct 03, 2013
kshowhanif: why did fg sign what they cant implement. The government of gej is irresponsible

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, YAR'ADUA'S GOVERNMENT SIGNED THE AGREEMENT NOT GEJ'S GOVERNMENT... NEVER SEEN A COUNTRY WHERE IT'S CITIZENS ARE TOO QUICK TO RIDICULE THEIR PRESIDENT, LIKE THEY WOULD HAVE DONE ANY BETTER IN HIS POSITION!!!
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by EbirichBen(m): 9:52am On Oct 03, 2013
Please what is the Budget of My Country emm Nija.
Yes Nigeria
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Tonylyte(m): 9:54am On Oct 03, 2013
Cuteclem: yaradua signed this agreement because he knew he will not be alife to impliment it hmmmmm politics
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha dis guy don kil me, funny but i see sum truth in the joke. The ya'aradua dude sef no even price them.....3tri no dey here o..ASUU(apc) want us to face reccession nah....
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Tonylyte(m): 10:08am On Oct 03, 2013
chief koboko: Four sectors of the economy need absolute attentinon; education, power, health nd agricuture. If nigeria must grow, these sectors must not be joke with. It's so painful dat I'm suffri d effect of d strick. But we must pay a price in one form or d other 4 dis country to grow.
security nkor? Anyway, i see boko 4 ya name, u dnt want to invest in security, so u may bomb the money invested on those sectorz listed above?
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by ElijahAde(m): 10:38am On Oct 03, 2013
If ASUU demands 3 Trillion Naira, what happens to the annual allocation, subventions, grants, TETfund, STEP-B, world bank assisted funds? It is crazy. The money available are wasted and underutilized, yet ASUU is demanding that they put more money into Universities for infrastructure. While I'm not against more funding, ASUU should be reasonable and realistic. Government cannot spend monies not budgeted for. They should make sure the funds available are properly utilised before more funds are injected into the system. What happens to polytechnics, colleges of Education, Technical schools, and other government agencies, don't they need funds too? Now I see, ASUU is the problem. They want to be at par with our legislators. It is greed, selfishness and nothing more. ASUU should be disbanded.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Nobody: 10:51am On Oct 03, 2013
Aaaaaaaaaaahh!!! Baabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by jidefrimi(m): 10:58am On Oct 03, 2013
wher 2 elephants fight,grasses suffer.we av selfish leaders(both ASUU ND FG) here in dis country..they really dont care abt we students,all care abt is how 2 nourish der pocket..since FG has failed in der responsibilities,i think we should take up der duty in meetin up ASUU's demand.if all studnt in Nigeria voluntarily pay 2000naira in2 ASUU'S accnt. I bliv dat shud solve al dis crisis.since al dey want is money. Money dey is d root of al evil.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by jidefrimi(m): 11:00am On Oct 03, 2013
The public universities has been
in total
doom due to the inability of FG to
meet the
demand of ASUU. How i wish this
letter can
meet with MR PRESIDENT and
ASUU
chairman. I speak for my self and
nigeria students at
large that are affected by this
ASUU
strike,to say we have been feld up
long
time ago by this ugly,unpleasant
,and
political nonsence our FG and
ASUU is
into,gambling with our
future,making students to study a
4year COURSE with
5years,because of the persistent
striking
ASUU has involved it self into. It
has come to my notice that FG and
ASUU
has no feelings for education the
way they
claim, we were not involved in
their 2009
agreement and MOU of 2012,(1)
so why are
we now suffering the negative
outcome of
the agreement? (2)the salaries of
ASUU is still much
active,in other words,they are still
benefiting despite the on going
strike,we
the student have every thing to
lose,because we are still going to
pay
school fees after the strike must
have wasted our precious
months,why must it
be so? If an agreement is reached
and
acknowledge by a law court,that
means
such agreement is legitimate,any
party(s)
that fails to discharge its duty will
b sue
for breach of agreement, so why
can't
ASUU sue FG for nt implementing
the agreement it entered freely
with the
union? I plead with ASUU to call
off this over 3
months strike so that we can go
back to
school and pick up the remaining
broken
parts of our semester, mean
while, while
the school is open for students to
receive
lectures ASUU can sue FG to law
court for more judicial review. If I
just spoke your mind or partially
please
comment below,and also feel free
to
criticize so I can have other
weakness to
write on again.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by spear007(m): 11:13am On Oct 03, 2013
ASUU! ASUU!! ASUU!!! ASUU!!!!....na dog go chop una mouth o,bt w8 o,una dn 4gt say na money oga Gej go use run 2015 campaign?...smh...jst passin by
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Nobody: 11:30am On Oct 03, 2013
Rossikk:

How do you expect to ''fit 5000 passable graduates into one school''? Then which unis will all the other hundreds of thousands of non-graduating students attend? You are wrong that we have too many universities. We don't have enough.



We don't have, literally, 100 Universities neither do we get 5000 usable graduates yearly. Those figures were used to illustrate proportions in order to make a point ( a point you evidently missed).

We do have too many Universities (and perhaps not enough Technical Colleges and Skills acquisition centers). The reason for this is that we erroneously assume that one needs to be a uni-grad to be considered 'well educated'. Many students struggle like hell to keep up: they buy scores to get in and hustle lecturers for grades just to get the certificates in the end. They don't commit their energy to learning either because they lack the interest or because they don't have intellectual capacity to grasp the subject matter. Neither of these are bad things, but if we want to get the best from ourselves, we have to be honest in evaluating our aptitude and discover where it is that we belong. Some people have a knack for sports, music, handy work etc and would be better off channeled into the vocation after secondary school. Why waster 4+xyrs in the University crowding up the place while your zeal for your true calling gradually diminishes?

If admissions criteria are followed without the bias of ethnicity and nepotism, if exam malpractice is curbed: we will not have the number of admissions we have now. There was a time (late 90's) when Jamb scores of 200 - 240 where considered very respectable (most were genuine too) but after 2000 scores above 300 became popular. This didn't happen because the exams got easier or people smarter; Universities tried to regulate entry by raising the cut off marks but they didn't reckon with the fact that entering the Uni is now a do-or-die affair and people are ready to do whatever it takes. And instead of addressing the issue, lecturers are enjoying the power they have, allowing the invasion of universities by intellectually challenged students and trading grades for money or sex.

The students, in the end, are the losers in this charade. With a certificate that is nothing but a testament to wasted years and wasted money (only if you acquired it dishonestly) you would spend years looking for and not getting a job; the degree might even become a liability because it will stand between you and a willingness to start from the bottom in the labour market. And when the frustration ultimately sets in, you might become a menace to yourself and society.

The educational sector is as corrupt as most things Nigerian, a few more laboratories or even a few more universities will do nothing to change the steady decline.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by christiscomin: 11:44am On Oct 03, 2013
modextus: shocked 3,000 000 000 000??



I see...this ASUU dudes are clearly against this administration,they also don't wish nigeria and nigerians well.

I'm done believing thier crazy stories.they are just bunch of old men who are out to to suck this country dry for their own selfish intrest.

They aren't even bothered about what the students are going through..do ya'll think their own kids aren't schooling abroad as well?

Its for the collective betterment of our future, a government
that waste money on things that do not affect our lives...making independence cake, travelling to ring bells with millions, can't invest in our education. The truth is education is under financed here, and thats what make our graduate unemployable and lecturers outdated. Hardly can a mechanical Engineering graduate make a blade here...
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by SoniaUK(f): 12:07pm On Oct 03, 2013
Wait ooo d 3trillion ASUU re demandin for is for d benefit of us abi? Now ASUU listen carefully,we re ok wit d education system u re given to us all pls we want d strike to be called off abeg.cus even if dey giv u old thiefs d money u wudnt stil ultilize it properly.u ASUU... Jus wanna eat from d national cake by usin education sector as ur means of extortin huge amount of money from d govt,by d way wetin una dey even teach us for class sef.all u fake professors wey knw sabi book.rubbish
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by abubaka101: 12:27pm On Oct 03, 2013
Raggedy_Ann:



We don't have, literally, 100 Universities neither do we get 5000 usable graduates yearly. Those figures where used to illustrate proportions in order to make a point ( a point you evidently missed).

We do have too many Universities (and perhaps not enough Technical Colleges and Skills acquisition centers). The reason for this is that we erroneously assume that one needs to be a uni-grad to be considered 'well educated'. Many students struggle like hell to keep up: they buy scores to get in and hustle lecturers for grades just to get the certificates in the end. They don't commit their energy to learning either because they lack the interest or because they don't have intellectual capacity to grasp the subject matter. Neither of these are bad things, but if we want to get the best from ourselves, we have to be honest in evaluating our aptitude and discover where it is that we belong. Some people have a knack for sports, music, handy work etc and would be better off channeled into the vocation after secondary school. Why waster 4+xyrs in the University crowding up the place while your zeal for your true calling gradually diminishes?

If admissions criteria are followed without the bias of ethnicity and nepotism, if exam malpractice is curbed: we will not have the number of admissions we have now. There was a time (late 90's) when Jamb scores of 200 - 240 where considered very respectable (most were genuine too) but after 2000 scores above 300 became popular. This didn't happen because the exams got easier or people smarter; Universities tried to regulate entry by raising the cut off marks but they didn't reckon with the fact that entering the Uni is now a do-or-die affair and people are ready to do whatever it takes. And instead of addressing the issue, lecturers are enjoying the power they have, allowing the invasion of universities by intellectually challenged students and trading grades for money or sex.

The students, in the end, are the losers in this charade. With a certificate that is nothing but a testament to wasted years and wasted money (only if you acquired it dishonestly) you would spend years looking for and not getting a job; the degree might even become a liability because it will stand between you and a willingness to start from the bottom in the labour market. And when the frustration ultimately sets in, you might become a menace to yourself and society.

The educational sector is as corrupt as most things Nigerian, a few more laboratories or even a few more universities will do nothing to change the steady decline.
You've said just about all I want to say. And from the write up, plus the fact I feel this way, it can be felt that our problems are frustrating and annoying. Irresponsible govt who can't do right because there are so many corrupt people in power; citizens/students who blame everything on govt, forgetting that Nigeria is country practising Mixed-Economy, whereby private individuals have a role to play by being innovative and creative; students who are lazy and want to always cheat to pass; few intelligent ones are ever given an opportunity; lecturers who are incompetent... Among many others.
We need a change of attitude among ourselves as Nigerians, if we are to move forward with development and change.

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Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by jibshittu: 12:44pm On Oct 03, 2013
bloggernaija: These guys like the politicians are a bunch of jokers .
Lazy ,unthinking typical Nigerian .
In that organisation ,is there nobody there to do the maths that Nigeria cannot afford that much money ,even if the country was not corrupt?
That is about $7 billion in a country where over 50% are very very poor.
Education is a start
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by valdprof: 3:21pm On Oct 03, 2013
Ekawu: FG pls implement d agreement u entered with ASUU
sharrappl
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by Rexyl(m): 3:22pm On Oct 03, 2013
ASUU should please be mindful of other categories of workers in the civil and public service in terms of conditions of service and salaries they receive monthly. ASUU are far better and in most cases the gap is ridiculous. They should please embrace the negotiation with the govt and make the sacrifice where necessary in order to redeem University education from total collapse. I know Nigerian universities are enterprising but researches and technological advancements are not keeping the same pace. What we need for this to happen is the zeal, interest and ingenuity of our researchers.
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by valdprof: 3:36pm On Oct 03, 2013
okay . ASUU see wetin go happen ee. We love una well well.But please we're okay with the state of our schools .Is it by force to help person . We no want nah!!!!!! and to the Fedral govt ,if u pay ASUU this money e go pain me ooo .Allah e go pain me

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Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by lastmessenger: 7:50pm On Oct 03, 2013
Greatken007: WHO IS AT THE LOOSING END?I GUESS STUDENTS AND THE GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA...THIS IS PURE POLITICS TO DISCREDIT GEJ GOVERNMENT.I CAN BET ANYTHING,ASUU REQUEST IS FOR THEIR OWN BENEFITS AND NOT TO THE UNIVERSITIES THEY GOVERN...WHAT IS WORLD BANK STEP-B MEANT FOR?WHAT IS FG GRANT DESIGNED FOR?WHERE ARE THE MONEY THAT WERE GENERATED FROM ALL PROGRAMS INCLUDING POST UME GOING TO?FG DOES NT HAVE SUCH MONEY TO WASTE.SOME PPLE DONT REALLY KNOW THE GRAVITY OF 3 TRILLION.
greatest ken is ur man orji.i have one question for ASUU.WHAT IS THE NATIONS BUDGET FOR 2013?
Re: ASUU Demanded For N3tn, Not N130bn by malachytochukwu(m): 10:07pm On Oct 03, 2013
Is there still any Nigerian student that supports ASUU on this monumental clunker of a wish? ASUU claims they are fighting for d interest of Nigerian students but that is fat lie! Just imagine dat a man puts his child to ur care and it happens dat he is not bringing enof cash to take care of the dude. U now go ahead to starve d boy and then telling that d u r doing so in his interest such dat his father brings more money. Now, tell me, who is suffering it? D dad or d dude? I guess dat if u were d little child u will wish to strangulate this gaurdian of urs. Dats wat ASUU is doing to us!
wat r dey doing with our sch fees? definitely not in paying salaries! how about acceptance fee? etc.
I think Nigerian students should stand up against ASUU cos they r ruining our future. ASUU lack d moral standing to call politicians corrupt.
I know how often d SUG had to be out of terms with university administration to quench their ever egocentric desire to increase our sch fee. Pls if ASUU is sponsoring u to comment sh;t here pls desist from it cos I want to graduate. Am done with my project and these set of ppl calld ASUU shud not b allowed to to hold our education sector to a stand still

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