luvinhubby:
Considering the enormity of the security challenges (highest since the civil war) and the amount of resources diverted into it, don`t you think GEJ has more than matched his words with actions, sentiments aside?

payless:


List just two tangible things Jonathan has done to touch the lives of the common man.

payless:


Below are Jonathan's words; not mine.


An Editorial page of Premium Times, Feb. 19, 2013 has it that, “Jonathan personally promised not to run in 2015, a denial today that is bareface lie.” The page continued: At a press conference in Abuja in late 2010, a day ahead of President Goodluck Jonathan’s formal declaration to run in the 2011 presidential election, Mr. Dalhatu Tafida, then Director General of the Jonathan/Sambo campaign organisation, said the president won’t seek another term in 2015. The president, he said, would be available for only a single term if elected.” “I’ll not contest in 2015-Jonathan (2011),” see Daily Independent, Sept 9, 2013. “Four years is enough for anyone in power to make significant improvement and if I can’t improve on power within this period, it then means I cannot do anything even if I am there for the next four years” (Nigerian Vanguard, Feb. 1, 2011). The New PDP is also pointing to a 2011 statement credited to Jonathan in Ankara, Turkey, which states that “President Goodluck Jonathan, yesterday, said he has no ambition to stay in office beyond 2015, assuring Nigerians in Diaspora that while he will not contest the 2015 election, he will ensure that this year’s election is free and fair.”

payless:


List just two tangible things Jonathan has done to touch the lives of the common man.

luvinhubby:
1, My village of nativity has 18hrs of power supply courtesy of GEJ`s 50kva sub-station there and power reforms in Nigeria.
2, A functional rice mill is fully operational in the same village of my nativity, employing tens of youths, courtesy of GEJ`s agriculture reforms.

Do you want more?

atlwireles:

How do you know those are Jonah's words, because a Nigerian newspaper said so

payless:

What about my village? Have you been to my village? There is no place in Nigeria where anyone enjoys 18hrs of electricity supply. It is a ruse, bros.

payless:


Google those dates with the name of each newspaper beside it. You guys are ready to go any length to defend indefensible.

atlwireles:
Play a news report with Jonah saying those words. Let's listen to the context of what he said. That's actually besides, the point. What Nigeria needs now is not an election in 2015. But the kind of country where that election will happen in 2015. You might be having one in 2015 in O'dua's republic , we just don't know yet. Anybody looking towards 2015, without seeing the rivers of flowing blood ahead is either politically blind or plain wicked.

payless:

So all reports must be in video? Tell me another one.........

payless:


Below are Jonathan's words; not mine.


An Editorial page of Premium Times, Feb. 19, 2013 has it that, “Jonathan personally promised not to run in 2015, a denial today that is bareface lie.” The page continued: At a press conference in Abuja in late 2010, a day ahead of President Goodluck Jonathan’s formal declaration to run in the 2011 presidential election, Mr. Dalhatu Tafida, then Director General of the Jonathan/Sambo campaign organisation, said the president won’t seek another term in 2015. The president, he said, would be available for only a single term if elected.” “I’ll not contest in 2015-Jonathan (2011),” see Daily Independent, Sept 9, 2013. “Four years is enough for anyone in power to make significant improvement and if I can’t improve on power within this period, it then means I cannot do anything even if I am there for the next four years” (Nigerian Vanguard, Feb. 1, 2011). The New PDP is also pointing to a 2011 statement credited to Jonathan in Ankara, Turkey, which states that “President Goodluck Jonathan, yesterday, said he has no ambition to stay in office beyond 2015, assuring Nigerians in Diaspora that while he will not contest the 2015 election, he will ensure that this year’s election is free and fair.”

payless:

What about my village? Have you been to my village? There is no place in Nigeria where anyone enjoys 18hrs of electricity supply. It is a ruse, bros.

payless:

What about my village? Have you been to my village? There is no place in Nigeria where anyone enjoys 18hrs of electricity supply. It is a ruse, bros.

emiye: there is a whole lot of difference between Sovereign National Conference and National Conference.


What Jonathan is proposing for is a National Conference, which when conducted the report can easily be made to gather dust.

What Tinubu is advocating for is a Sovereign National Conference

emiye: there is a whole lot of difference between Sovereign National Conference and National Conference.


What Jonathan is proposing for is a National Conference, which when conducted the report can easily be made to gather dust.

What Tinubu is advocating for is a Sovereign National Conference

theoctopus:

Where in Tinubu's statement yesterday did he say the reason he is opposed to it is because it is not sovereign? If your point was valid, shouldn't he have stated that GEJ did not meet the requirements and he should change it to Sovereign National Conference as he earlier advocated? Do you call for its abortion because it is not sovereign or you call for a correction to meet what you earlier clamored for? You guys are clowns! You are not even helping Tinubu at all!

emiye:

GEJ is a coward who will never call for a sovereign national conference, the national conference he has called for in the words of Tinubu is simply diversionary and deceptive

GEJ is trying to buy time and confuse people, Tinubu understand GEJ's script perfectly. i expect Femi okunrounmu to reject this appointment.
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NATIONAL CONFERENCE[/size] IS NOT [size=15pt]SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE[/size]

theoctopus:

Do you actually believe that increasing the font size has improved your post?

emiye:

It is meant for agents of deception like you to keep shut.

sammy329: Former Governor Tinubu warns against
postponement of 2015 general elections.
Fresh from a medical trip abroad,
a national leader of the opposition All
Progressives Congress , APC, Bola Tinubu,
on Saturday criticized the proposed
national conference, describing it as
“deceptive” and “diversionary.”
Mr Tinubu stated this in Lagos at a press
conference he addressed shortly after
returning to the country Saturday.
President Goodluck Jonathan had, in his
Independence Day broadcast to the
nation last Tuesday, announced the
composition of a committee to hammer
out modalities for a national dialogue.
The committee, headed by a former
Senator and Chieftain of the Yoruba apex
socio-cultural organization, Afenifere,
Femi Okurounmu, will be inaugurated on
Monday by the president at the
Presidential Villa.
It has one month to conclude its
assignment and submit its report.
Mr Tinubu, who arrived from the United
Kingdom where he recuperated after a
knee surgery earlier in the United States,
wondered why the president was
proposing a national dialogue only 15
months to the 2015 general election,
adding that those running the federal
administration were not even smart in
their deception.
”Why is the conference coming at just
about 15 months to the next general
election” he asked. ”When will it hold?
Why so sudden? I see a contradiction and
diversion,” the former Lagos State
governor said while addressing party
supporters, who had come to welcome
him at the Executive Jet Hanger One of
the Murtala Mohammed International
Airport, Ikeja.
”National conference is by whom, for
whom, and at what stage? How many
level of deception? These people (federal
government) are not even smart public
perception deception. I see a
contradiction. I see diversion. I see
deception, lack of honesty and integrity.”
Mr. Tinubu, whose speech was
interrupted by intermittently shouts of
praise by the crowd, said at no time had
Nigeria in its 53 years of independence
been divided as it was now.
The former Lagos State governor alleged
that Mr. Jonathan was proposing the
national dialogue because his party, the
Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, had been
factionalized.
He said, “Nigeria has never been this
divisive in its 53 years of existence, yet
he (President Jonathan) now considers a
national conference because of the
apparent division in his party.
”The timing is wrong. The programme is
diversionary because there is no time for
it now.”
Mr. Tinubu, however, assured that, as a
democrat, he would discuss the issue of
the proposed national dialogue with his
party, adding “whatever the party says, I
shall stand with.”
Postponing election will be insane
Responding to a question on whether the
proposed national conference could be
part of the plot to postpone the general
elections, Mr Tinubu said, doing so would
be insane.
”It will only be postponing the stealing
and looting that some people are enjoying
and we will not accept that,” he said.
”How long before the next elections, just
about 15months and how long will it take
to process the arrangement for such a
thorough conference.
“I think will talk about it (national
conference) when we have a man of
integrity, strong character and goodwill in
charge of this country.”
The APC leader recalled that Mr. Jonathan
had once stated that there was no need
for Sovereign National Conference
because the nation’s sovereignty lies with
the national assembly.
”Democracy and sovereignty belongs to
the people and not the national assembly
and I suspect a distraction” he said,
refering to the president’s sudden change
of mind on the conference.
Mr. Tinubu, who arrived at the airport on
a private jet at about 10.30 a.m, prayed
for God’s forgiveness for those who
circulated speculation about his death,
saying ”they do not know what they are
doing.”
The APC leader demonstrated that he had
recovered fully by jogging and dancing
with his wife, Remi Tinubu, a senator, at
the venue of the conference.
He thanked all those who came to
welcome him, noting that he missed
home a great deal because ”this is the
longest I’ve stayed away from home
since the days of my exile.”
Among those at the reception were
Governors Kayode Fayemi of Ekiti State
and Rauf Aregbesola of Osun.
Also present were Minority Leader of the
House of Representatives, Femi
Gbajabiamila and Speaker of the Lagos
State House of Assembly, Adeyemi
Ikuforiji, who arrived in company with Mr
Tinubu from the United Kingdom.
source: premiumtimesng.com/news/146088-tinubu-returns-says-planne-national-conference-deceptive-diversionary.html

sammy329: Former Governor Tinubu warns against
postponement of 2015 general elections.
Fresh from a medical trip abroad,
a national leader of the opposition All
Progressives Congress , APC, Bola Tinubu,
on Saturday criticized the proposed
national conference, describing it as
“deceptive” and “diversionary.”
Mr Tinubu stated this in Lagos at a press
conference he addressed shortly after
returning to the country Saturday.
President Goodluck Jonathan had, in his
Independence Day broadcast to the
nation last Tuesday, announced the
composition of a committee to hammer
out modalities for a national dialogue.
The committee, headed by a former
Senator and Chieftain of the Yoruba apex
socio-cultural organization, Afenifere,
Femi Okurounmu, will be inaugurated on
Monday by the president at the
Presidential Villa.
It has one month to conclude its
assignment and submit its report.
Mr Tinubu, who arrived from the United
Kingdom where he recuperated after a
knee surgery earlier in the United States,
wondered why the president was
proposing a national dialogue only 15
months to the 2015 general election,
adding that those running the federal
administration were not even smart in
their deception.
”Why is the conference coming at just
about 15 months to the next general
election” he asked. ”When will it hold?
Why so sudden? I see a contradiction and
diversion,” the former Lagos State
governor said while addressing party
supporters, who had come to welcome
him at the Executive Jet Hanger One of
the Murtala Mohammed International
Airport, Ikeja.
”National conference is by whom, for
whom, and at what stage? How many
level of deception? These people (federal
government) are not even smart public
perception deception. I see a
contradiction. I see diversion. I see
deception, lack of honesty and integrity.”
Mr. Tinubu, whose speech was
interrupted by intermittently shouts of
praise by the crowd, said at no time had
Nigeria in its 53 years of independence
been divided as it was now.
The former Lagos State governor alleged
that Mr. Jonathan was proposing the
national dialogue because his party, the
Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, had been
factionalized.
He said, “Nigeria has never been this
divisive in its 53 years of existence, yet
he (President Jonathan) now considers a
national conference because of the
apparent division in his party.
”The timing is wrong. The programme is
diversionary because there is no time for
it now.”
Mr. Tinubu, however, assured that, as a
democrat, he would discuss the issue of
the proposed national dialogue with his
party, adding “whatever the party says, I
shall stand with.”
Postponing election will be insane
Responding to a question on whether the
proposed national conference could be
part of the plot to postpone the general
elections, Mr Tinubu said, doing so would
be insane.
”It will only be postponing the stealing
and looting that some people are enjoying
and we will not accept that,” he said.
”How long before the next elections, just
about 15months and how long will it take
to process the arrangement for such a
thorough conference.
“I think will talk about it (national
conference) when we have a man of
integrity, strong character and goodwill in
charge of this country.”
The APC leader recalled that Mr. Jonathan
had once stated that there was no need
for Sovereign National Conference
because the nation’s sovereignty lies with
the national assembly.
”Democracy and sovereignty belongs to
the people and not the national assembly
and I suspect a distraction” he said,
refering to the president’s sudden change
of mind on the conference.
Mr. Tinubu, who arrived at the airport on
a private jet at about 10.30 a.m, prayed
for God’s forgiveness for those who
circulated speculation about his death,
saying ”they do not know what they are
doing.”
The APC leader demonstrated that he had
recovered fully by jogging and dancing
with his wife, Remi Tinubu, a senator, at
the venue of the conference.
He thanked all those who came to
welcome him, noting that he missed
home a great deal because ”this is the
longest I’ve stayed away from home
since the days of my exile.”
Among those at the reception were
Governors Kayode Fayemi of Ekiti State
and Rauf Aregbesola of Osun.
Also present were Minority Leader of the
House of Representatives, Femi
Gbajabiamila and Speaker of the Lagos
State House of Assembly, Adeyemi
Ikuforiji, who arrived in company with Mr
Tinubu from the United Kingdom.
source: premiumtimesng.com/news/146088-tinubu-returns-says-planne-national-conference-deceptive-diversionary.html

Emperor_007: SNC is long over due.


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atlwireles: Any attempt by Tinubu to talk down the SNC/NC will only isolate him in Yorubaland. There's no two ways about this fact. 2015 elections is not an issue. What Nigeria, we are trying to have elections in, is the issue.