JMAN05:

You refuse to answer and respond to my posts appropraitely. answer the beginning question and respond appropriately. thanks. waiting.

italo: This is another shameful lie.

Rev 22:12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13[b] I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.[/b]”

14 Blessed are those who do His (Jesus is clearly referring to the father here, meaning he is the one speaking) commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God(clearly referring to the father again) will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away[k] his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.” (this is a repeat of Jesus words in verse 22).

Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!

Clearly Jesus addresses himself as "the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last"

Why are you Jehovah's Witnesses so full of falsehood?

Abi can other people help us judge the passage above?


Jesus Christ: “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore."

You lie that "the first and last" Jesus said is a title that means something different from that of God.

What does it mean and where does the Bible tell you its meaning?

true2god: @ JMAN05, r u a christian or a JW? I have asked this questiom earlier and i didnt get any reaponse frm u.

JMAN05:

His spirit is His active force. the holy spirit.

woky: how do u expect him to answer dis question?
The JW blv that all non-witness ar part of satan world, if Jman sis should gt married to a non-witness, she will b disfellowship and am sure that jman won't talk to her..

loveroftruth: @Jman

Do you see the kind of People you are dealing with below ?

This is also another lie. So, take note and be as Gentle as a Dove and as wise as a serpent, Jesus said.


To answer that question, NO, Jw dont disfellowship anybody for marrying outsider.

JMAN05:
Those false unbiblical teaching you have cannot be supported by Jehovah.

JMAN05:
it is not private opinion, but i worded it my own way and based on observation. Read up

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2007327#h=0:0-9:0

loveroftruth:

Jw are not part of any other organized religion.

They are just on their own, not affiliated with any other group.

But they love all men as can be seen by the fact that they carry the msg of hope and promises of everlasting life to them in their houses all over the world, giving people an oppurtunity to gain the greatest gift of all, 'everlasting life'.

This they do free of charge.

JMAN05:

like i said above, it will be good that you guys approach God's word with a view to knowing whether what we are saying agrees with the bible instead of requesting yes and no answer as if it is just our doctrine, not bible based.

Read up

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/l/r1/lp-e?q=w07+5%2F15+p.+30+par.+15

No, You have to reevaluate your own teaching bro. we are not here for insincere discussion. If I give an answer, it is logical i remind you to reason on urs.

JMAN05:

His spirit is His active force. the holy spirit.

hisblud: that is why we want jman to defend your org but he has been dodging it. But yoog said his sister will be disfellowshiped so is he lying?

loveroftruth: @Jman

Do you see the kind of People you are dealing with below ?

This is also another lie. So, take note and be as Gentle as a Dove and as wise as a serpent, Jesus said.


To answer that question, NO, Jw dont disfellowship anybody for marrying outsider.

italo:
When we said Jesus wasn't coming in 1914 and Abraham, Isaac and Jacob weren't coming to earth in 1925, Jehovah's Witnesses said we were carrying out false unbiblical teachings not supported by Jehovah.

Jehovah only supports your false prophecies and doctrines.
From the article, you still teach that heaven closed in 1935 but unfaithful people create space for remnants. Can you show me where the Bible mentions anything like that in 1935.

If the Bible doesnt teach it, why do you go about claiming your teachings are Bible teachings?

loveroftruth:

Am aware that the Jw recognised that their is a set of people that will also live forever on earth about that time, unlike befor when they all had a heavenly hope.

That is the story of that time, that there is also an earthly hope also.

I dont know of what you say of heaven closed thing.

Na wa for you Italo.

italo:

You people are the ones that said heaven closed in 1935.

Cant you see JMAN didnt dispute it? He only said its old teaching.

So no wah for me o...

Wah for your lie lie organization.

You sef don see how crazy una teachings dey.

loveroftruth:

I have shown You what happend about 1935, earthly hope was announce and not just heavenly hope.

But what i have said will not be enough for you since what you want to hear is not what really happend but your projections.

hisblud: @loveroftruth please give us official organization opinion on proving that yoog is lying that if you marry outside jw you will not be defellowshipped.

italo: This is another shameful lie.

Rev 22:12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13[b] I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.[/b]”

14 Blessed are those who do His (Jesus is clearly referring to the father here, meaning he is the one speaking) commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God(clearly referring to the father again) will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away[k] his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.” (this is a repeat of Jesus words in verse 22).

Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!

Clearly Jesus addresses himself as "the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last"

Why are you Jehovah's Witnesses so full of falsehood?

Abi can other people help us judge the passage above?

Jesus Christ: “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore."

You lie that "the first and last" Jesus said is a title that means something different from that of God.

What does it mean and where does the Bible tell you its meaning?

italo:

Hebrews 1:1 In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world (JW, did God create the world through Archangel Michael? No!) 3 He reflects the glory of God and bears the very stamp of his nature, upholding the universe by his word of power. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high (JW, does the Archangel Michael seat at God's right hand? No!) 4 having become as much superior to angels as the name he has obtained is more excellent than theirs.

5 For to what angel did God ever say,

“Thou art my Son,
today I have begotten thee”?
Or again,

“I will be to him a father,
and he shall be to me a son”? (None!)
6 And again, when he brings the first-born into the world, he says,

“Let all God’s angels worship him.” (JW, is God telling angels to worship angel? No!)
7 Of the angels he says,

“Who makes his angels winds,
and his servants flames of fire.”
8 But of the Son he says,

“Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, (JW, did the Father call Archangel Michael God? No!)

the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
therefore God, thy God, has anointed thee
with the oil of gladness beyond thy comrades.”
10 And,

“Thou, Lord, didst found the earth in the beginning,
and the heavens are the work of thy hands;
11 they will perish, but thou remainest;
they will all grow old like a garment,
12 like a mantle thou wilt roll them up,
and they will be changed.[d]
But thou art the same,
and thy years will never end.”
13 But to what angel has he ever said,
“Sit at my right hand,
till I make thy enemies
a stool for thy feet”? (none!)
14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to serve, for the sake of those who are to obtain salvation?

Jehovah's Witnesses,

Why are you lying?

italo:

Gbam! If God cannot have a God, explain how God - a Spirit can have a Spirit!

hisblud: choose one? Are you a CHRISTIAN OR JW? All you wrote up there is irrelevant?

ayoku777:

Thats truly wrong. And whenever the devil wants to keep believers in bondage, he isolates them from people who can help them see the light. But i know alot of people are breaking down that wall of isolation, just like your sis.

ayoku777:

Thats truly wrong. And whenever the devil wants to keep believers in bondage, he isolates them from people who can help them see the light. But i know alot of people are breaking down that wall of isolation, just like your sis.

ayoku777: And by the way, Jesus is SO NOT MICHEAL. Infact not only is Jesus God, according to Isaiah 9v6 and John 1v1; He is also infact JEHOVAH.

Jeremiah 23v5-6 ...behold, the days come saith the Lord, that i will raise up unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

In his days Judah shall be saved, and THIS IS HIS NAME whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness (JEHOVAH TSIDKENU). Jesus is Jehovah Tsidkenu, not the Father. It was Jesus who took our sins and gave us his righteousness. So Christ is not just God, he is YHWH like the Father.

italo:

And Jesus talks about that "justice and judgement" in Rev 22:
12 - Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to render to every man according to his works.

Then proclaims himself:

13 - I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

Why is that Jehovah's Witness guy telling blatant lies?

Anyway, we know he was taught to lie by the worst liars in the history of lying.

italo: @ JMAN05 and other Jehovah's Witnesses,

If Christ was created by God and was the wisdom of God (Prov 8:1-4, 12, 22-31), then before Jesus would have been created, God would have had to have been without wisdom. How is it possible that God could have ever been without wisdom?

hisblud: hi jman please would love to hear the itemise mistakes done by your organization.

And this also goes to loveroftruth.