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Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 8:18pm On Dec 09, 2013
texanomaly:

Let me get this straight:

You don't believe in God, therefore I am delusional if I hear his voice.

On the other hand, If you tell me Zeus taught you some logic, you are sane?

Have I got this right? I do misinterpret you sometimes. I'm just making sure.


You misinterpreted me again. As usual



Zeus is a god that people used to worship.
Yaweh is a god that you and other people worship

There exists no evidence showing that they talk to people or they exist. From this point of view, these two gods are not different..


The problem is that, you wouldnt believe somebody discussing with Zeus but you would believe someone who discusses with Yaweh.....using the same reasoning.....How

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Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 8:34pm On Dec 09, 2013
Logicboy03:


You misinterpreted me again. As usual



Zeus is a god that people used to worship.
Yaweh is a god that you and other people worship

There exists no evidence showing that they talk to people or they exist. From this point of view, these two gods are not different..


The problem is that, you wouldnt believe somebody discussing with Zeus but you would believe someone who discusses with Yaweh.....using the same reasoning.....How


Hmmm. I had to modify. The bolded makes no sense. I was only trying to clarify.


Logicboy03:

It is not an attack, it is a painful truth


-If I told me that Zeus taught me some logic, would you believe? Yes or No

But if someone from your church told you that God spoke to him, you would say "its possible"
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 12:48am On Dec 14, 2013
Your responses when I said I had heard God's voice...


macof:
Lol grin u heard Yahweh?
How was his voice? Soft or bold? Does he talk in rhymes or acappella mode


macof:
I think he sounded like ur brain playing tricks on u

macof:
Lol I too have heard voices in a room with me alone. The voice was like "macof, macof, dump christianity and revert to the ways of your ancestors, you have been chosen to led people back to the God of their fathers"And I was like "yes Lord, use me to bring light to these people"

macof:
The God of ur fathers house
And there no real difference between "almighty God" and "pagan god"
I.e Olorun is almighty God and also a pagan god

macof: Religion grin
If only anyone has truly seen God




Then I find this on another thread...

macof:
having high consciousness doesn't mean believing wat I believe
It means .....I am getting tired of stating the importance of consciousness and Ori so read...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness
www.ifafoundation.org/the-ori/
We have been through this, <<< this is where ur low consciousness is visible.
Sentient beings have organic features and Orisha are not sentient, not skydaddies who party and sit on thrones.
They are forces of nature, the very core of universal existence.
Of course yes, Sango can be cajoled to Manifest
I have seen Osun manifest with my own eyes


So I'm crazy... undecided
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 2:10am On Dec 14, 2013
Can't believe I lost track of this thread.

Dang it!
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 2:15am On Dec 14, 2013
rapture_ready: Can't believe I lost track of this thread.

Dang it!
grin
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 2:19am On Dec 14, 2013
Hehehehe

@macof pls read @tex's last post and look up the word "hypocrisy" in a good dictionary...

tongue wink
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 2:22am On Dec 14, 2013
texanomaly:
grin

Ain't it a wee bit past your bedtime?

grin
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 2:26am On Dec 14, 2013
rapture_ready:

Ain't it a wee bit past your bedtime?

grin

lolz...it is 7:26pm here in Texas.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 2:41am On Dec 14, 2013
texanomaly:

lolz...it is 7:26pm here in Texas.

Wait a minute...

So you are bashing made-in-nigerian gods from the USA?

How very unpatriotic! angry

How will our local religious economy grow?

And if we all succeed in annoying Sango, and he starts hurling them lightning bolts, you are hiding out in Texas, safely away from the line of fire... lipsrsealed
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 2:46am On Dec 14, 2013
rapture_ready:

Wait a minute...

So you are bashing made-in-nigerian gods from the USA?

How very unpatriotic! angry

How will our local religious economy grow?

And if we all succeed in annoying Sango, and he starts hurling them lightning bolts, you are hiding out in Texas, safely away from the line of fire... lipsrsealed

I did not bash anybody's God. I was simply making a point. Macof said I was crazy for something he himself has done.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by raptureready: 2:56am On Dec 14, 2013
texanomaly:

I did not bash anybody's God. I was simply making a point. Macof said I was crazy for something he himself has done.

Just kidding. grin
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 3:01am On Dec 14, 2013
rapture_ready:

Just kidding. grin

Isn't it past your bedtime? wink How are you?
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by MrTroll(m): 7:47am On Dec 14, 2013
texanomaly: Your responses when I said I had heard God's voice...

Then I find this on another thread...




So I'm crazy... undecided

what I think he meant by manifesting was the usual magic trick done by the adherents of said deity. For example, Christians will say they've seen Yahweh manifesting when a miracle is done in church. Doesn't mean they actually saw him.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 7:57am On Dec 14, 2013
Mr Troll: what I think he meant by manifesting was the usual magic trick done by the adherents of said deity. For example, Christians will say they've seen Yahweh manifesting when a miracle is done in church. Doesn't mean they acctually saw him.

Hmmm...
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 8:35am On Dec 14, 2013
texanomaly: Your responses when I said I had heard God's voice...
















Then I find this on another thread...




So I'm crazy... undecided







First of all, you don't understand anything because u have limited knowledge.
let me educate u

Yahweh as a God, just like Sango and Osun are Energies responsible for the forces of nature.

You can't hear Yahweh speak because it's impossible for a mountain to talk
wat u heard was all up in ur head- delusion

The only thing that inter-communicates with the human brain is consciousness not a skydaddy as u think Yahweh to be.
______________________

Olorun is God almighty, the most high of the Yoruba spirituality. The father God of Obatala and Oodua

No human can see a God- show me how energy is visible

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshun
Maybe when u read this ^^^ you would understand wat I meant by "I have seen Osun MANIFEST"
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 8:36am On Dec 14, 2013
texanomaly: Your responses when I said I had heard God's voice...
















Then I find this on another thread...




So I'm crazy... undecided







You have never heard God's voice, wat u heard was either ur Ori or just ur brain playing tricks with u
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 8:38am On Dec 14, 2013
rapture_ready: Hehehehe

@macof pls read @tex's last post and look up the word "hypocrisy" in a good dictionary...

tongue wink

undecided ode osi oniranu

Learn to seek knowledge and grow in consciousness
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 8:38am On Dec 14, 2013
texanomaly:

I did not bash anybody's God. I was simply making a point. Macof said I was crazy for something he himself has done.

I never did anything
Check my response above
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 8:47am On Dec 14, 2013
Mr Troll: what I think he meant by manifesting was the usual magic trick done by the adherents of said deity. For example, Christians will say they've seen Yahweh manifesting when a miracle is done in church. Doesn't mean they actually saw him.

Thank you.
Let me explain further

As u might know Osun is the Orisha of Rivers, Beauty, Femininity, Healing, Sex and Love

I have seen rivers and seen the beauty of women.

I have been healed by Osun' river

And I have fallen in love and had sex

^^^^ this is a complete manifestation of Osun that I have experienced

wats more, I have seen A woman possessed by Osun- she kept dancing and crying and acting flirtishly(if that's a real word)

Osun is portrayed as a young woman who loves dancing and crys when happy as the laughs when angry.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 8:54am On Dec 14, 2013
macof:

Thank you.
Let me explain further

As u might know Osun is the Orisha of Rivers, Beauty, Femininity, Healing, Sex and Love

I have seen rivers and seen the beauty of women.

I have been healed by Osun' river

And I have fallen in love and had sex


^^^^ this is a complete manifestation of Osun that I have experienced


Same way you claim you were healed by the river, christians claim they were healed by God. I hope you see why atimes, you people are not in anyway different from the christians you bash.

Ehen, let's talk about the second part. You mean you had se.x with osun? How? I go like phuck osun too o
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by texanomaly(f): 8:55am On Dec 14, 2013
macof:

Thank you.
Let me explain further

As u might know Osun is the Orisha of Rivers, Beauty, Femininity, Healing, Sex and Love

I have seen rivers and seen the beauty of women.

I have been healed by Osun' river

And I have fallen in love and had sex

^^^^ this is a complete manifestation of Osun that I have experienced


How do you know it was Osun?
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by MrTroll(m): 9:03am On Dec 14, 2013
texanomaly:

How do you know it was Osun?

this is a flawed question. According to macof, osun is not a sentient being but an abstract concept ascribed to sex, beauty etc so anytime you fuq you experience Osun wink

macof:

Thank you.
Let me explain further

As u might know Osun is the Orisha of Rivers, Beauty, Femininity, Healing, Sex and Love

I have seen rivers and seen the beauty of women.

I have been healed by Osun' river

And I have fallen in love and had sex

^^^^ this is a complete manifestation of Osun that I have experienced

wats more, I have seen A woman possessed by Osun- she kept dancing and crying and acting flirtishly(if that's a real word)

Osun is portrayed as a young woman who loves dancing and crys when happy as the laughs when angry.
was this what you meant when you said Sango can be induced to act?
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 9:34am On Dec 14, 2013
rationalmind:

Same way you claim you were healed by the river, christians claim they were healed by God. I hope you see why atimes, you people are not in anyway different from the christians you bash.

Ehen, let's talk about the second part. You mean you had se.x with osun? How? I go like phuck osun too o

True. Anybody can credit anything to his healing.

Lemme explain further by narration...
I went for Osun festival, a strong headache befell me, I was weak and so down then I was asked to take water from the river, I walked to the river got a bottle filled, I drank and poured some over my head. Less than 3secs the headache left. <<< while doing all this I was so full of doubt but Osun proved me wrong.

I called with the priest and he said he was not in a position to explain the river's power. All he said was "Osun heals those who come in sincerity"
That river has been doing such for over 600yrs

grin Noo, you still don't get anything...Osun is not a sentient being, she has no Organic features.

The act of Sex is caused by a physiological state of the brain reacting to stimuli. The energies responsible for this is wat the Yoruba call Osun
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 9:40am On Dec 14, 2013
macof:

True. Anybody can credit anything to his healing.

Lemme explain further by narration...
I went for Osun festival, a strong headache befell me, I was weak and so down then I was asked to take water from the river, I walked to the river got a bottle filled, I drank and poured some over my head. Less than 3secs the headache left. <<< while doing all this I was so full of doubt but Osun proved me wrong.

I called with the priest and he said he was not in a position to explain the river's power. All he said was "Osun heals those who come in sincerity"
That river has been doing such for over 600yrs

grin Noo, you still don't get anything...Osun is not a sentient being, she has no Organic features.

The act of Sex is caused by a physiological state of the brain reacting to stimuli. The energies responsible for this is wat the Yoruba call Osun

The second part of your explanation I agree with. The first part I don't.

When you have such a river as osun river which heals, doesn't it bother you why we still have people with HIV/AIDS?

Does it not occur to you to take lots of the water in a bottle and announce to the whole world you have the cure for HIV and who knows, win yourself a nobel.

Thirdly, have you ever heard of the placebo? What about coincidences?

Edit: have you ever heard of this statement, "correlation does not equal causation?"
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by MrTroll(m): 9:51am On Dec 14, 2013
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

I wonder why macof will not believe Christian testimonies then.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 9:55am On Dec 14, 2013
texanomaly:

How do you know it was Osun?

Did u read the link I sent to u?
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 10:05am On Dec 14, 2013
grin grin I specialise in debunking miracle claims and testimonies.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 10:05am On Dec 14, 2013
Mr Troll: this is a flawed question. According to macof, osun is not a sentient being but an abstract concept ascribed to sex, beauty etc so anytime you fuq you experience Osun wink

was this what you meant when you said Sango can be induced to act?

Yes and more...I once watched on the TV one Sango devotee who was possessed and began talking in a thunderous voice. They stopped the show right there

I later heard that such are very prevalent, That when Sango is well appeased with the dancing he starts hailing lightning.

Sango is also sometimes referred to as Orisha of dance, Osun fell in love with him because of his dancing talents
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 10:23am On Dec 14, 2013
rationalmind:

The second part of your explanation I agree with. The first part I don't.

When you have such a river as osun river which heals, doesn't it bother you why we still have people with HIV/AIDS?

Does it not occur to you to take lots of the water in a bottle and announce to the whole world you have the cure for HIV and who knows, win yourself a nobel.

Thirdly, have you ever heard of the placebo? What about coincidences?

Edit: have you ever heard of this statement, "correlation does not equal causation?"

Do u believe Odo Osun heals? No

Do u believe the cure for HIV exist but hasn't been proven? No, u probably believe it a cure doesn't exist because Europeans haven't created it yet.

You see where Modern scientist are just finding a way to prevent a negative from contracting the virus, The Yoruba have had a way of preventing anybody from contracting anything for centuries.

As for being Healed of Aids or HIV, The cure is everywhere especially in Africa, but laziness, disbelief, low self-esteem and brainwash cannot let people go to the Forest to seek Erinle and Osanyin's help in fighting Sopona.

Osun river hasn't been proven wrong, if u have an HIV positive friend take him/her to Odo Osun and test Osun
Osanyin has blessed Osun and taught her how to heal. There is No Osanyin devotee that falls sick or even as health issues at least until freckled old age.

I have never heard of placebo. And Coincidence itself is controlled by forces.
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 10:24am On Dec 14, 2013
Mr Troll: Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

I wonder why macof will not believe Christian testimonies then.

I believe some that Ise sense in, I disbelieve the rest

I want to know... How does a pastor heal a man that has been crippled all his life when he is not possessed by Obatala or Osanyin
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by macof(m): 10:25am On Dec 14, 2013
rationalmind: grin grin I specialise in debunking miracle claims and testimonies.
I can see that

But visit Odo Osun or Osanyin people any time u are free
Re: How Is Religion Not A Form Of Mental Illness At Times? by Nobody: 10:53am On Dec 14, 2013
macof:

Do u believe Odo Osun heals? No

Do u believe the cure for HIV exist but hasn't been proven? No, u probably believe it a cure doesn't exist because Europeans haven't created it yet.

You see where Modern scientist are just finding a way to prevent a negative from contracting the virus, The Yoruba have had a way of preventing anybody from contracting anything for centuries.

As for being Healed of Aids or HIV, The cure is everywhere especially in Africa, but laziness, disbelief, low self-esteem and brainwash cannot let people go to the Forest to seek Erinle and Osanyin's help in fighting Sopona.

Osun river hasn't been proven wrong, if u have an HIV positive friend take him/her to Odo Osun and test Osun
Osanyin has blessed Osun and taught her how to heal. There is No Osanyin devotee that falls sick or even as health issues at least until freckled old age.

I have never heard of placebo. And Coincidence itself is controlled by forces.

grin grin I don't know where to start from

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