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| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by babsalux09(m): 1:53am On Dec 17, 2013 |
rudedough: the way it pleases God he does his things,until after death you wont know his reasons for his judgements,and if u only know that d bible was only a summary book,so every details on why God did this and he did that is not a question to be answered by man. if you like choose the devil over him,but in the end..you will still come face his judgement both u and ur master d devil. he's an immortal God,and whatever pleases him,he does.. just be watchful of ur words,and where you mortal thinking might lead you to. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by babsalux09(m): 2:20am On Dec 17, 2013 |
rudedough: i should av known earlier that you were just been brain washed by science,i will argue no further.. because of people like u who dwell too much on science is the reason why u wont still know anything about creation. not to talk of knowing something about God and d way he does his things. when God mean dust,does it neccessarily mean it must be dust?,..its just like just die and give me ur fuckin soul to judge,whatever happens to ur body is no more is business,bcoz its already a waste=dust. many of God's words lies in wisdom,u might give it human defination,And God words myt just be in parables You trying to compare God ways with that of Man...sorry bro,u are in for a research that will never end. "My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts," says the LORD. "And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine."...Isaiah 55:8. i have nothing else to tell you bro,may heaven save your soul. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Nobody: 3:32am On Dec 17, 2013 |
babsalux09: Bro you're trying too hard to defend God's blunder. This was how your God created you and your fellow Christian brothers. Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.  He even went further to say we shall become dust when we die. Genesis 3:19 “In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.” I think God needs a new biology teacher cos he just failed his research.  Science has proven that humans don't become dust, insects from the soil eats our flesh and our bones remain bones forever. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by rickybazeup(m): 5:30am On Dec 17, 2013 |
Sorry to say I do not believe what I dnt see in the bible,I have come to observe that we xtians are so comfused because we no longer read our bibles and believe in God anymore that's any demonical posessed persons will make up stories and u will believe. Pls were is this passage wich she claims is her favourite passage located in the bible(heaven help those who help them selves)? With this alone u can hear the devil speaking.will God say something and do otherwise? No body have been to heaven or hell until the trumpet sounds. Abi trumpet sound we no hear? She they only call pastors way she the see for statelite dish she call other hidden pastors naaa wey the do God work too I for knw say she don arrive.Sorry to say I do not believe what I dnt see in the bible,I have come to observe that we xtians are so comfused because we no longer read our bibles and believe in God anymore that's any demonical posessed persons will make up stories and u will believe. Pls were is this passage wich she claims is her favourite passage located in the bible(heaven help those who help them selves)? With this alone u can hear the devil speaking.will God say something and do otherwise? No body have been to heaven or hell until the trumpet sounds. Abi trumpet sound we no hear? She they only call pastors way she the see for statelite dish she call other hidden pastors naaa wey the do God work too I for knw say she don arrive.Sorry to say I do not believe what I dnt see in the bible,I have come to observe that we xtians are so comfused because we no longer read our bibles and believe in God anymore that's any demonical posessed persons will make up stories and u will believe. Pls were is this passage wich she claims is her favourite passage located in the bible(heaven help those who help them selves)? With this alone u can hear the devil speaking.will God say something and do otherwise? No body have been to heaven or hell until the trumpet sounds. Abi trumpet sound we no hear? She they only call pastors way she the see for statelite dish she call other hidden pastors naaa wey the do God work too I for knw say she don arrive. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by highyo: 6:26am On Dec 17, 2013 |
wealth2al: Ok......., so why did Pastor Kumuyi deny the claims?As a GS He did the right things. Or else, people will exalt testimonies more than the word of God. Very soon, satan will keep bringing his agent from the kingdom of darkness, giving false testimonies of heaven and hell in order to destroy the true testimony of heaven and hell. Mark my word. They may say if you go to church on sunday, you will go to hell, so as to put confusion in mind of people about life after death. , When pastor Kumuyi warn their church member about watching of TV, there was no immorality in the word, as it is today. Hardly can you even see imoral dressing on TV then, but today, before D-banj or P-square will sing a track, you will see naked ladies, dancing. Perhaps God has showed him what will happen in 30yrs to come, that was why he stopped it then. If he refuse to caution them now, they will swallowed error and fake testimonies. He never even allow listening to an ex-satanist testimony. Moreover, if he will not stop it now, people will no longer read the bible, but will want to wait for who will die next to bring them another news from after life. Because Kumuyi denied his church of listening to it, doesnt mean he himself has not seen the vision of heaven and hell too. Oh don't be suprised, one day in his bible study i think, he said, the more God mention the sin of Jeroboam in bible, the more hell becomes hotter for him. How did he knew that? He must has seen it too. But as a G.O you can't expect him to be saying, God took me to hell, I saw Jeroboam, I saw Abacha, I saw Mohammed. And when people hear that, they will put it in CD and start selling it. And this will tanished his image that he's trying to sell CD listen to what he said about Linda. Did he ever say she's lying? Did he say what she's saying is false? Of course he was only telling his member to hold on to the teaching of the bible. And you cant hold on to the bible without believing Joel3:28 and you cant believe Joel without believing Linda expirience and if you read the bible very well you will understand Linda testimonies |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by highyo: 6:35am On Dec 17, 2013 |
soksy: What she said is true but most people now use it as a means of making money,by lieing that they died and rose again.So it is hard to believe that she actually saw jesus...lets consider another thing. What if i don't put on earrings and rings but my heart is not pure? So to me it is a matter of the heart...if your mind is pure and your body is defiles with earing, holy spirit can not dwell in you. And if holy spirit does not dwell in you evil spirit will because it's their property (Ezk7:19). And if you die with evil spirit, my dear, it's hell. That's why the bible said, both your inner body and outer body, let it glorify the lord |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by highyo: 6:46am On Dec 17, 2013 |
Happinext:if you study me, I only answer reasonable question. So my dear, I will answer you, because you have asked wisely. The heaven you can see with your nacked eyes, is the throne of the kingdom of darkness. They were the one who challenge the angel bringing message to daniel (king of persia) they were the one who wanted to claim the body of moses when moses die they were the one the bible is refering to in Eph 6:11 this is the one that will be destroy, not the 2nd heaven which the lord is. Do you think the beast that will call fire from heaven, do you think is from God's throne? No it's from the first heaven. Try to understand the bible with the help of holy spirit. Love your question, ask more on it if you dont understand. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by highyo: 7:00am On Dec 17, 2013 |
Abdgafarplenty: if everyone who'll enter the paradise would have to confess to Jesus Christ, then the past prophet from Adam to Abraham would never be granted entrance!Jesus created the heaven and the earth ( john 1:3) and with the word God created everything and nothing was created without the word and he gave life to everything including Mary and Adam and his life gave light. Jonh1:14 the word became a flesh and dwell among us the word is Jesus with the word, God chase Adam out of the garden The word and God is one |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by layez: 7:09am On Dec 17, 2013 |
i can equally say dat i died and woke up back.. Angelina Zambrano of Equador did hers,Pastor Yakubu did his... I can do my own self all u gaz do is buttress it wit scriptures.. D funny part of it is dat,u will always see a particular place in d bible to support ur claim.. U guys dont nid to cos religion apathy una no nid am.... |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by highyo: 7:14am On Dec 17, 2013 |
almurtadha: Linda or no Linda, pls and pls for the sake of peace. Don't bring Muslims to this. Muslims have nothing to do with all these shits pls. Muslims are the destined to go to heaven.no my dear, you have made an error. Muslin are going to aljanna where muhammed is. Muslim are not going to heaven if they die without Jesus, because Jesus is the gate way to heaven. Heaven belong to Jesus and muslims has rejected him. So if they die without Jesus, it's Aljanna (part of hell) where they will be busy sleeping with 7 virgin as some of them claimed (7x77x777x7777x77777 demons) |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Wan47(m): 8:33am On Dec 17, 2013 |
I never get into an argument wit sum1 I hav no respect for his opinion..... No1 here is willing to acept d odas opinion, u'll jst want to win. Ntin good cums out of NL xtain doctrines debate bt sin |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by highyo: 8:55am On Dec 17, 2013 |
hikmoj: Im surprised not because ur bible says that atimes ur god goes foolish &his foolishness is stil wiser dan u ppl,den in yoruba translation its translated as (WERE) meaning MADNESS,its obvious dat ur god was in dis state of condition wen he struck d so called linda,and u 2 are not exempted 4rm being a victim of dis his foolishness (1cor 1 v 25)God is a merciful God, and Yet he will still forgive you for this, if you come to him |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Nobody: 8:58am On Dec 17, 2013 |
highyo: Show me one part from the bible where God was merciful. You know you guys just follow religion without reading the manuals. Just point out one verse only where God was merciful. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by babsalux09(m): 9:26am On Dec 17, 2013 |
rudedough: Eph 2:3-5 (NIV) ...Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath. But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved. A good way to understand the meaning of mercy is to see how it relates to grace: 1. Mercy--not getting what you do deserve / withheld punishment 2. Grace--getting what you don't deserve / unmerited favor Mercy is like a judge finding you guilty, but then withholding any punishment. Grace is getting something you could never have imagined. An inexplicable gift. It's like the same judge awarding you $10,000,000.00, after finding you guilty! In this sense, mercy can be thought of as the opposite of grace, or perhaps more correctly--the inverse. The words are normally used in Scripture as defined, though occasionally the distinctions are blurred. In Greek as in English, mercy can also mean pity or compassion. (The King James Version, for example, often translated the word love as mercy.) For the purpose of this study, we will focus on mercy as "not getting what is deserved" in the here and now. Ex 33:19 (NIV) ..."I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion." God forgives all confessed sin. By grace we are saved and "put right with" him. But will He intervene to withhold earthly consequences? Will He show mercy? How many times? Even after we know better? Let's look through Scripture to see why, when, and if God doesn't give some of us what we deserve. Lam 3:39 (NIV) Why should any living man complain when punished for his sins? Jer 21:14 (NIV) "I will punish you as your deeds deserve, declares the Lord." Num 32:23 (NIV) "...You may be sure your sin will find you out." Is God ineffective at making "sure our sin finds us out"? Are we really getting away with it? Can we continue to count on God's mercy if we remain unrepentant? Why Does A Holy God Let Us Get Away With Sin? Rom 2:4 (LB) Don't you realize how patient he is being with you: Or don't you care? Can't you see that he has been waiting all this time without punishing you, to give you time to turn from your sin? His kindness is meant to lead you to repentance. Rom 2:4 (Phi) Are you, perhaps, misinterpreting God's generosity and patient mercy towards you as weakness on his part? Don't you realize that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? 2 Pet 3:15 (Jer) Think of the Lord's patience as your opportunity to be saved. When We See Just How Far God Will Go... Think of how much mercy God has given us. Most of us have never contracted herpes, AIDS, or gotten pregnant out of wedlock! We've miraculously avoided accidents we deserved due to reckless, inattentive, even drunk driving. And so on. God's angels must be working overtime administering His mercy. 1 Tim 5:24 (Phi) Remember that some men's faults are obvious, and are equally obviously bringing them to judgment. The sins of other men are not apparent, but are dogging them, nevertheless, under the surface. Job 33:27-30 (NIV) ..."I sinned and perverted what was right, but I did not get what I deserved. He redeemed my soul from going down to the pit, and I will live to enjoy the light of life." God does all these things to a man--twice, even three times--to turn back his soul from the pit, that the light of life may shine on him." Prov 28:13 (NIV) He who conceals his sins does not prosper, but whoever confesses and renounces them finds mercy. God's Mercy Is Vast And Amazing Ezra 9:13 (NIV) "What has happened to us is a result of our evil deeds and our great guilt, and yet, our God, you have punished us less than our sins have deserved... Shall we again break your commands...?" 1 Tim 1:13 (Jer) Even though I used to be a blasphemer and did all I could to injure and discredit the faith. Mercy, however, was shown me, because until I became a believer I had been acting in ignorance. 1 Tim 1:15-16 (Phi) ...I realize that I was the worst of them all, and that because of this very fact God was particularly merciful to me. It was a demonstration of the extent of Christ's patience towards the worst of men, to serve as an example to all who in the future should trust him for eternal life. Heb 4:16 (Phi) Let us therefore approach the throne of grace with fullest confidence, that we may receive mercy for our failures and grace to help in the hour of need. Ps 103:8,10-14 (NIV) The Lord is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love... He does not treat us as our sins deserve or repay us according to our iniquities. For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his love for those who fear him; as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgression from us. As a father has compassion on his children, so the Lord has compassion on those who fear him; for he knows how we are formed, he remembers that we are dust. Micah 7:18 (NIV) Who is a God like you, who pardons sins and forgives the transgression of the remnant of his inheritance? You do not stay angry forever but delight to show mercy. Who Needs Mercy? Rom 3:23-27 (Jer) Both Jew and pagan sinned and forfeited God's glory, and both are justified through the free gift of his grace by being redeemed in Christ Jesus who was appointed by God to sacrifice his life so as to win reconciliation through faith. In this way God makes his justice known; first, for the past, when sins went unpunished because he held his hand, then, for the present age, by showing positively that he is just, and that he justifies everyone who believes in Jesus. So what becomes of our boasts? There is no room for them... Rom 11:30-32 (Phi) Just as in the past you [pagans] were disobedient but have found that mercy which might have been theirs [the Jews] but for their disobedience, so they, who at the present moment are disobedient, will eventually share the mercy that has been extended to you. God has all men penned together in the prison of disobedience, that he may have mercy upon them all. Flirting With Disaster; Taking God's Mercy For Granted Rom 2:5 (Phi) Or are you by your obstinate refusal to repent simply storing up for yourself an experience of the wrath of God in the day of his anger when he shows his hand in righteous judgment? Rom 2:5 (Jer) Your stubborn refusal to repent is only adding to the anger God will have toward you on that day of anger when his just judgments will be made known. Rom 1:32 (Jer) They know what God's verdict is: that those who behave like this deserve to die--and yet they do it; and what is worse, encourage others to do the same. Gal 6:7 (Phi) Don't be under any illusion: you can not make a fool of God! A man's harvest in life will depend entirely on what he sows. Rom 11:22 (Phi) You must try to appreciate both the kindness and the strict justice of God. Those who fell experienced the justice, while you are experiencing his kindness, and will continue to do so as long as you do not abuse that kindness... When Mercy Is Not Granted Grace is unlimited, and forever, and we will focus on it in a separate study. Mercy, in the sense we mean, is vast but limited, and will end in either: 1) Repentance leading to salvation by grace, or 2) stored-up wrath and eternal punishment. In the meantime, God is calling us out of mercy and into obedience. Eventually it dawns on all of us that we cannot "get away with" unrepentant sin. It's as if God gradually withdraws his mercy after we have come to a knowledge of the truth. God's mercy has served it's purpose, now it is time for obedience. 1 Pet 4:17-18 (Jer) The time has come for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if what we know now is only the beginning, what will it be when it comes down to those who refuse to believe God's Good News? While evil men go from bad to worse, we can no longer even get away with sins of omission! (Jam 4:17) Like children, we object: "Everyone else is doing it!", or "I used to be able to!"-- when God "meddles with our affairs". Some of us have already experienced the dramatic extent of how far God will go to form "Christ in us". When the fear of God hits us, our prayers for deliverance from sin are finally answered--God literally scares the hell out of us! Have you experienced this? Think what it would mean if we really could "get away with" sin! Heb 12:6-8 (KJV) For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Rom 12:1 (Jer) Think of God's mercy, my brothers, and worship him, I beg you, in a way that is worthy of thinking beings, by offering your living bodies as a holy sacrifice, truly pleasing to God. Ex 34:6-7 (NIV) ..."The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the wicked unpunished... " Identification With The Sufferings Of Others Rom 9:15 (NIV) ..."I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion." Occasionally God chooses not to grant us mercy; for the purpose of judgment, rebuke, discipline, or testing. Fortunately, for most of us, this is the exception, not the rule. For the time being, God has shown incredible patience and mercy by withholding most of the effects of our sins. Luke 23:40-41 (NIV) ..."Don't you fear God?" he said... "We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong." If God chooses to give us or someone we know "what we deserve", how should we respond? If it is us, fear and repentance cannot be achieved too quickly. If to anyone else, we have an occasion to voluntarily share in the sufferings that we have been mercifully spared. Why would we willfully do this, if God hasn't made us suffer for our sins? Because by sharing their sorrows we can voluntarily feel what we in fact deserve ourselves, and can help restore them. And given our tendencies, who knows but that we may be next? Jude 23 (NIV) Snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear... Gal 6:1-2 (NIV) Brothers, if a man is trapped in some sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself; you may also be tempted. Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. The Parable of The Unmerciful Servant Mat 18:23-27 (NIV) "Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt. The servant fell on his knees before him. 'Be patient with me,' he begged, 'and I will pay back everything.' The servant's master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go." Mat 18:28-31 (NIV) "But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii. He grabbed him and began to choke him. 'Pay back what you owe me!' he demanded. His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, 'Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.' But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. When the other servants saw what happened, they were greatly distressed and went and told their master everything that had happened." Mat 18:32-35 (NIV) "Then the master called the servant in. 'You wicked servant,' he said, 'I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. Shouldn't you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?' In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed. This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from the heart." Micah 6:8 (NIV) He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. Luke 1:50 (NIV) "His mercy extends to those who fear him..." |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by babsalux09(m): 9:42am On Dec 17, 2013 |
rudedough: Noah Found Grace In the midst of this sinful and corrupt society, only one man remained faithful to God and found grace in His sight. “But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord....Noah was a JUST man [he was righteous] and perfect [that is, spiritually sincere and mature] in his generations, and Noah WALKED WITH GOD” (Gen 6:8-9). By recording that Noah walked with God, the Scriptures make it clear that he was humbly and meekly obeying God. He was walking in “the way of the Lord.” Here is a profound Scriptural truth: GRACE CAN NEVER BE IMPUTED WITHOUT OBEDIENCE AND REPENTANCE! Noah found grace because he willingly loved God, walked with God, served and obeyed God. Noah also taught others about God’s way. The New Testament records that Noah was a “preacher of righteousness” (II Pet. 2:5 ). God extended His grace to Noah because Noah loved righteousness and willingly obeyed God’s commandments. Noah was able to remain in God’s grace and favor because he diligently obeyed God in everything. After God gave him the instructions for building the Ark, it is recorded, “Thus did Noah; according to ALL that God commanded him, so did he” (Gen. 6:22). When the Ark was completed, God gave further instructions about the animals. Again it is recorded, “And NOAH DID according to ALL that the Lord commanded him” (Gen. 7:5 ). Think for a minute! If God was about to destroy all life because of the sin and wickedness of human beings, do you think that Noah would have continued to receive God’s merciful, saving grace, if he also had sinned with the rest of mankind (sin is the transgression of the law--I John 3:4), or if he had taken part in the corruption and violence which filled the world? The answer is a resounding NO! From Genesis to Revelation, the Bible shows that to receive and continue in God’s grace and favor, loving obedience to God is required. From the terrible destruction of the Flood, God reached down and saved Noah and his household alone. That was a tremendous act of GRACE! It was a blessing for all humanity! Had it not been for the GRACE OF GOD given to Noah, none of us would be alive today! And had it not been for the GRACE that God later extended to Abraham, none of us would have an opportunity for salvation! |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by babsalux09(m): 9:51am On Dec 17, 2013 |
Jonah and God's mercy? For those of you who only remember the whale part of Jonah's story, here is a brief synopsis to get you a better background about Jonah. God called Jonah to travel to the city of Nineveh to warn them about their impending judgment, because of their wickedness. 2 Jonah had different ideas, and attempted to flee from God by paying for passage on a foreign ship. 3 However, God was not amused and sent a violent storm. 4 The sailors were terrified and eventually figured out that Jonah was the cause of their endangerment, which he eventually admitted to them.5 Jonah was thrown overboard and God directed a great fish (or whale - the Hebrew is not that specific) to swallow Jonah and take him to the shore. 6 Once expelled from the whale, Jonah decided to do what God had originally requested and travelled to Nineveh to preach repentance from their evil. 7 A number of Christians assume Jonah was reluctant to go to Nineveh because they were known for their cruelty, and he feared for his life. However, the account gives a different reason why Jonah did not want to go. Jonah actually wanted God to judge the city of Nineveh and kill all their inhabitants. He was disappointed that the king and the people repented of their evil and were spared from God's judgment.8 In fact, Jonah was so angry with God that he asked God to kill him. 9 After that conversation, Jonah left the city and sat outside of it hoping that God would still destroy the city. 10 God caused a plant to grow overnight to give Jonah shade during his watch, but then caused the death of the plant the next day. Jonah was furious about the plant. 11 God pointed out that Jonah's priorities were completely messed up, since he was more concerned about a plant that gave him shade than the fate of 120,000 souls in Nineveh: Then the LORD said, "You had compassion on the plant for which you did not work and which you did not cause to grow, which came up overnight and perished overnight. Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?" (Jonah 4:10-11 ) So, it was clear to Jonah that God was merciful and He would reconsider His judgment of evil if the people repented. 12 Since Jonah wanted no part in God's mercy, he tried to avoid following God's instructions to warn the people. Did God warn others? Atheists would like you to believe that the God of the Old Testament just randomly killed people for no good reason and without warning. It turns out that atheists often don't present the entire stories about God's judgment. For example, in the greatest story of judgment, God sent a flood to kill all humanity except Noah and his family. However, Noah preached to the people of the coming judgment during the 100 years he was building the ark. 13 In another famous example, God destroyed the cites of Sodom and Gomorrah, because of their evil. In fact, all the men of Sodom (including both young and old) attempted to rape the two angels who came to warn Lot of the impending judgment. 14 Although warned, 15 the men attempted to harm Lot, but were prevented when the angels caused them all to become blind.16 In many lesser known stories, God warned the people prior to executing judgment. Some of these warnings were heeded17 and others not, 18 with the expected consequences. God's own people were often recipients of God's judgment, when they refused to heed His warnings. 19 Here is a short list from the writings of the prophets: Prophet Warning to Result Isaiah Judah Judgment Jeremiah Judah Judgment Lamentations Jerusalem Judgment Ezekiel Jerusalem, Tyre, Egypt Captivity in Babylon Hosea Israel Judgment Joel Tyre, Sidon, Philistia Judgment Amos Israel Judgment Obadiah Edom Judgment Jonah Nineveh Repentance Micah Israel Judgment Nahum Nineveh Judgment Habakkuk Judah Judgment Zephaniah Judah Judgment Zechariah Tyre, and other cities Judgment It is a well known principle that God regularly warned people of impending judgment and He personally indicated that He would relent if they changed their ways.12 So, the atheists' idea that God killed people without warning is false. Does God kill the innocent? Did God kill any innocent people along with the evil ones? In the two most famous examples of God's judgment discussed above, the text clearly says that all the people God killed were evil. 20 When God was about to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked God if He would destroy the cities if there were 50 righteous people in them.21 God said no. Then Abraham asked the same question if there were 45 righteous people. Every time he dropped the number and got the same answer. The fact is that God would not have destroyed those cities if there were any righteous people in them. The few righteous who were in those cities He warned ahead of time to get out. 22 In another example, Abimelech, king of Gerar, took Abraham's wife because he lied saying that she was his sister. 23 However, God prevented Abimelech from sleeping with her and warned him in a dream. Abimelech heeded God's warning and was spared from death. 23 Eliphaz the Temanite, in his discussions with Job, acknowledged that God did not judge the innocent with the guilty, but that those who act sinfully will incur God's judgment.24 So, God does not destroy the righteous along with the evil. Conclusion In numerous instances, atheists cite the Old Testament for examples of where God killed "innocent" people. However, the texts show that the innocent are not judged, but only the guilty. In addition, virtually always, the guilty individuals were warned ahead of time about their sin. Jonah is often known as the reluctant prophet, although the reason for his hesitation was not due to the cruelty of Nineveh, but because he feared its people might repent and God might spare them. Jonah wanted God to kill all the people of Nineveh, but feared His mercy. So, Christians are not the only people who often seem to want to see God judge people for their evil, rather than praying for their reconciliation with God. Jonah reveals that God was known for His mercy even in Old Testament times. Even though God is merciful, His mercy extends only to those who heed His words of warning. There is no toleration for evil in God's kingdom, so those who insist on testing God's resolve toward sin will find themselves judged, and incarcerated in God's jail . |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Nobody: 10:00am On Dec 17, 2013 |
babsalux09: [b]You're very unintelligent. I said show me an example of God mercies. I didnt ask you to read me his mercy promises. Show me an example. Throwing the Devil from heaven to earth for disobedience is that mercy? Sending away Adam and Eve he created in his own image from the garden of Eden to suffer in the world. Is that mercy too? Killing Lot's wife for looking back. Is that mercy? Killing Onan for spilling his seed. Is that mercy? Burning the entire city of Sodom and Gomohrah including innocent men, women and CHILDREN to death by a rain of burning sulfur. Is that how your God show mercy? Killing Aaron's sons for offering strange fire. What a murderous maniac? Is that Mercy? Killing a man for picked up sticks on the Sabbath. Is that how the "Merciful God" shows mercy? Your God burnt 250 Priests to death for offering incense. I thought he commanded them to offer incense on his alter. I guess that's mercy too. Killing a whole city for complaining. Such a merciful God huh? Wiping out an entire tribe the midianite for not appearing on his alter. Yeah!! Kill the unbelievers. That's how the Freedom fighting God exercises mercy. Your God told Joshua his prophet to stone Achan and his family to death for unknowingly picking up something. So merciful was he right? God forced soldiers to kill each other. He couldn't end the battle reasonably but take sides and kill more people. Such a merciful God aii? Killing a Good samarithan Uzzah who only tried to help keep the ark from falling. A merciful God indeed. Sent a plague as punishment for David's census. Killing an entire nation, innocent men, women and children for the sins of the president. WTF kind of mercy is that? He killed a man for not killing a prophet. Dude i'm becoming irritated now. But no you shouldn't be. God is truly merciful. Killed a Pegan for nothing and burn his bones as sacrifice on his alter. Killed innocent Children for acting their age when they laughed at Elijah's head. Merciful God indeed. When i said God acts like a 13 years old spoilt brat, you Christians said i was hating. Now tell me, what were these people's crimes? I will be waiting for an answer. [/b] 1 Like |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by pretta: 10:23am On Dec 17, 2013 |
since i hav been readin d scriptures i cant recall where d bible n illustration of where someone died n went hell den cam bak to earth to tell pple wat he/she saw. even in d case of lazarus n d rich man, u notice dat d richman communited frm hell to lazarus in heaven. pls its adviceable to read d word wt genuine understandin frm d holy spirit. dnt talk or preach out of wat other men of God hav bin preaching. go read on ur own. finally, hav it at d back of ur mind dat if after tinkin u've preached for ppl to repent, and u urself later go to hell. blive me it wil b worse n terrible on u. tight ur seatbelt |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Okijajuju1(m): 10:26am On Dec 17, 2013 |
rudedough: You do realize that you can make your points without resorting to insults and curses right?! #Just Saying! |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by brightlomo(m): 10:31am On Dec 17, 2013 |
babsalux09:father xmas that use to collect money b4 giving out anytin hmmmhmm. whta of dec 25 dat u claim is d birth of jesus? tell me d verse in d bible. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Nobody: 10:33am On Dec 17, 2013 |
Okija_juju: But i didn't curse or insult. I use strong words because they like going around the corners and cannot answer a question directly. But i didn't see where i cursed or insulted him. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by brightlomo(m): 10:33am On Dec 17, 2013 |
highyo:mislead one |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by brightlomo(m): 10:35am On Dec 17, 2013 |
highyo:ode. tell me where aljanna dey nah, maybe at back of ur house. rubbish |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by cuteshade(f): 10:36am On Dec 17, 2013 |
IamDebola: First and foremost, I'm allergic to bullshit.by their fruits you shall know them. Am not surprise |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Nobody: 10:41am On Dec 17, 2013 |
highyo: You're truly mislead. Put on your thinking cap and reason with me. God created Adam and Eve. They gave birth to 3 sons. How did the 3 sons multiply? Who were their wives? Abi man dey born pikin? Did God create new wives or did they sleep with their mother? Until you read your bible and understand it, stop defending it. God is old enough to defend himself, let him come and answer these questions. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Okijajuju1(m): 10:45am On Dec 17, 2013 |
rudedough: First line of your post that I quoted 'You are very unintelligent' If that isnt an insult, then consider this my official apology to you.. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by highyo: 10:46am On Dec 17, 2013 |
donnypool:what God said about them is, some are condem already |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by highyo: 10:49am On Dec 17, 2013 |
donnypool:GOD SAID SOME ARE CONDEMNED ALREADY John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only .. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Nobody: 10:53am On Dec 17, 2013 |
Okija_juju: But honestly, when has the truth become an insult. I said "Show me one part from the bible where God was merciful." but instead he was writing a literature review on how God promised to be merciful. Was he being intelligent or not? If your answer is No, then I am demanding an official apology that is to be published both here on Nairaland and on 2 major National dailies. Failure of which will result in a Law suit filed against you for defamation of Character. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by babsalux09(m): 11:30am On Dec 17, 2013 |
rudedough: In the old days,the consiquence for disobendience was either suffering or death. satan was d origin of sin,and God.couldnt stand sin,he tries to be God. "Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness." Ezekiel 28:17. "For thou hast said in thine heart, ... I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: ... I will be like the most High." Isaiah 14:13, 14. Adam and eve. "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Genesis 2:17. they disobeyed,an we all suffered for it. sodom and gomorah • God was mercifully willing to spare the cities for the sake of a few righteous people, but none lived there. The Bible tells us all the inhabitants were depraved. • One of the reasons God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah was because he did not want the Jews to be influenced by this evil. As the Creator of all things, God has the divine right to destroy evil as he sees fit. Read genesis 19 Aaron's sons Aaron’s Sons, Nadab and Abihu, Destroyed by Fire Merian (1625-30) After providing all of the rules and regulations, Moses anoints his brother and his nephews as priests. Over the last seven days, they have been in the tabernacle performing the atonement sacrifices for all of the Israelites. With that initiation period out of the way, the daily duties begin but things go awry when Nadab and Abihu violate the law stated in Exodus 39:9, which prohibits offering the wrong incense (Numbers 3:4). God burns them both to death on the spot. killing of uzzah Many have viewed this passage as indicative that divine judgment is executed even against technical violations and that God engages in ritualistic perfectionism. The rules are nonnegotiable. The underlying assumption to this interpretation is that Uzzah’s intentions are pure. The charge against Uzzah is “irreverence” (II Samuel 6:7 NASB). Since the ark had been housed at his home for twenty years (I Samuel 7:2; II Samuel 6:3) many believe that an over familiarity with the ark precipitated the incident. He may have become accustomed to its presence leading to an attitude of casualness that minimized its sanctity in his own mind. Whether this is accurate or not, Uzzah instinctively touched the ark. Uzzah felt it was his responsibility to save the integrity of God and he assumed he was qualified to do so. The purpose of the laws regarding the ark were not to protect it from contact with mud but rather to insulate it from contact with sinful human hands. It was not the filth of the ground that would defile the ark but the contamination of human sin. In short, Uzzah thought that his fingers were cleaner than the dirt the ark might fall into. His misjudgement demonstrates that he either held a high view of himself or a low view of God’s holiness. At a conference in 2007, R.C. Sproul (b. 1939) summarized, “Uzzah believed that mud would desecrate the ark, but mud is just dirt and water obeying God. Mud is not evil. God’s law was not meant to keep the ark pure from the earth, but from the dirty touch of a human hand. Uzzah presumed his hands were cleaner than the dirt. God said no.” The tragedy did served to re-instill the fear (or holy awe) of God in King David (II Samuel 6:9; I Chronicles 13:12). Have you become so familiar with God that you have little to no fear of the divine? killing a man for not smithin a prophet. it seems clear enough to label as unjust and just plain ridiculous. I suppose the moral of this story is to do whatever is commanded of you by god or his prophets. killing of children who mocked elijah First, it was Elisha, not Elijah. Important to understanding what happened. One slight ajustment to make in your mind. The Hebrew word translated "little children" in that scripture refers to people who were in the "apprenticeship" part of their lives, meaning between the ages of 18 and 30. Most modern tranlation use the word "youth", not children These were not a group of 9 and 10 year olds just being silly. These were young adults who knew exactly who they were mocking and what they were doing. If you look at where and when the incident happened, Elisha had just spend several years following, servicing, and learning from Elijah. The time had come for Elijah to go to heaven. Elisha refused to allow his master to go off alone to die. Instead he kept following him. Finally, when the time came, a fiery chariot came down and picked up Elijah and took him off to heaven. The chariot was visible to more than just Elisha, because immediately the others in the area wanted to go searching for Elijah, considered that the charoit whould drop him somewhere. Al Elijah is leaving, up comes this gang of young men (at least 42 of them) and begin mocking and abusing Elisha, yelling "Go up, bald man". These young men must have also witnessed the miracle of Elijah going up in the chariot, or what did they mean by telling Elisah to also "Go up." This was no innocent group of kids. It was a large gang of 40+ young adults, surrounding, mocking, and probably endangering the life of Elisha. Laughting at the miracle of God they had just witnessed. Elisha spoke against them, and God sent the two bears. Elisha walked away unharmed. 42 of the youth did not. Note that it says the youth were "torn apart" in the KJ. Most other translation use "rend", "torn" or "injured". The original Hebrew word does NOT mean killed. killing a man who picked sticks on sabbath day One of the Ten Commandments specifically stated: “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work” (Exodus 20:8-10). Often, disobedience to the commands of one who is in a position to know more about a particular situation could result in harm or death for multiplied thousands. For instance, why does the United States military insist on obedience to officers even in the minutest details? After all, “we all agree” that wearing a pair of boots that is not shined properly is a “harmless” activity, and folding a shirt incorrectly is no great crime. Why, then, does the military insist upon obedience even in the most minuscule ordinances? The simple truth is that laxity in obedience to small regulations breeds laxity in obedience to other ordinances. And if that laxity is not punished quickly and decisively, it has the potential to be contagious, and spread throughout the entire group or organization. so bro,God dont just pass judgement blindly,until u.disobey or mock him...these are measures he takes on immorality those days,and for the sake of his son jesus christ,he has choose to temper justice right from d time of jesus...God is merciful to as many who obey his commandments and not to d disobedient ones...As a creator he has d right to destroy whatever doesnt seem right..Remember the eyes of men were open since adam and eve ate out of d tree in d garden of eden,and devil as an ex-angel knows the things God doesnt like,and d best way he thinks he can get back at God is to turn his creation against him...dont ask me why God cant stop devil,its just like a servant who tries to outsmart his master and still in d end eventually get caught...Out of God's mercy is what we are still enjoyin,giving satan and most of us which our ways aint pure to repent if not d entire creation ought to have been wiped out and God will choose to exist alone with his angels. |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by kroosx: 11:36am On Dec 17, 2013 |
I no wan comment b4..but lookn at d op mtcheEeeeew...I see a foolish fool |
| Re: All Facts About Linda Testimonies Of Hell by Nobody: 11:46am On Dec 17, 2013 |
babsalux09: All what you've written is only trying to justify the murderous maniac called God. What i asked is "Where is the love and mercy of God in all these injudicious killings? And please don't tell me that rubbish again that God has the right to kill people. He doesn't. Those men he killed are somebody's father, someone's brother, someone's friend, someone's child and love ones. They have kids that are dependent of them. God just made their children fatherless. So please safe us the brainwashing cos God is an unrepentant uncivilized serial killer who needs psychological help. Your God is evil. If you're in doubt, could you please list the sins the "bad devil" committed let's compare it to your "sweet loving and merciful God". All the sins the devil committed, please list them here. |
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