Jaerymes:

The problem with man is that man has failed to realize that God is not man!! He created the world, don't you think he could manipulate it however he wants? He is the creator of the rules you mentioned above, therefore isn't limited by them! Just like the playstation was created for "gaming", sony being the builder can as well convert it to a DVD player if they want. The playstation is not above sony, sony is above the playstation and whatever the playstation is, is a result of sony's decision.

God knew man would be so shallow thats why he asked in the bible not to question him.

Mr Aboki:



No..

The real problem with Man is that we still have humans like you who still are afraid to push the boundaries.. Ask questions, test Logic, etc..

How can you believe all those ridiculous stories in the Bible (which you subconciously know that they are far-fetched) without questioning them. Now if I were God, the people who will go to hell are those who failed to seek knowledge.

God.. You dont even know what that is. All you know is that you have been told about the existence of a heavenly plain with winged Angels soaring around in white robes, a God with a Son and no wife and then the Holy Spirit who I still dont understand his role. You rely on religous manuscripts allegedly written by people who existed in a time when Malaria was a killer disease and the inventor of the Abacus would have been stoned. You are quick to swallow hook line and sinker the stories in the bible without even bothering to use the Sense that God has given you to ponder on them.

Your playstation Analogy is re:tarded. I know Sony. Sony is real not imagined or read up in a book. Sony is still present and keeps updating the Playstation to match the present times. The most recent book of the Bible is still older than 1000 years.

The day you conciously start using the brains that 'GOD' has given you, thats the day you would be free from bondage. The day you can read the story of Job and see it as God & Satan playing Ludo with a Humans life, then you will be free.. The day you read the Noah story and see that even if by chance that was ture, it was Genocide, then you will be emancipated, The day you look at the Bible and see it as an Isreali/Jewish package that has little regard for Blacks & Africa, then your salvation would have started.


Even God sef no fit believe that a 600 year old Man could have built an Ark..

If I told you a story about my fore-fathers how Elder Aboki in 1400 B.C at the age of 500 years old impregnanted a Woman, you would say I am lying. If that same story were in the Bible, You would put your hands on it and be praying with it..

Now what is the Problem with Mankind again?!

danarchy4: Before you ask about the ark, find out where the hair on your head comes from, same with nails and teeth, find out how a tiny drop of sperm could mutate into bones and giants in after time, how the earth is suspending on the atmosphere with 5 billion souls, the force that wakes a death man after mentioning Jesus name,,,, instead of giving your life to Christ, keep fooling ur self by asking silly questions.

n_armani: haha!!! Are you for real?? what magic do you think could divide the red sea? I'm pretty much curious o. so magic is now your standards for believing?? if it can't be achieved via magic, forget it, right?
Lord help us.

danarchy4: Before you ask about the ark, find out where the hair on your head comes from, same with nails and teeth, find out how a tiny drop of sperm could mutate into bones and giants in after time, how the earth is suspending on the atmosphere with 5 billion souls, the force that wakes a death man after mentioning Jesus name,,,, instead of giving your life to Christ, keep fooling ur self by asking silly questions.

Rexyl:

The word of God aims to let people know that there is a Creator behind the creation in a similar way your parents produced you by birth and you now exist as a living creature. Nobody forces you to believe this simple fact. If you like appreciate it or ignore it. christians know God exists in Spirit and they are trained to reference Him as such. Christ gospel tells us God doesn't mean evil for those diligently seeking and serving Him in truth and spirit. You mention book haram here and you seem to code it as evils of God. Once again Christ's message gives the distinction BTW goodness (love and kindness) of God and evils of Satan (which involve his cruelty and violence). Through Christ message we know that acts of terrorism is handiwork of Satan. Pls note there is no God in the act at all.

Evil Brain: How did Noah fit 2 million insects (1 million species x 2) into the ark? And how did be manage to fit 12,000 amphibians, 20,000 birds, 11,000 mammals, 16,000 reptiles and god knows how many crustaceans, arachnids and mollusks into a boat that must have already been overflowing with insects? Where did he find space to keep a years worth of food for all those animals? How did he keep the meat for the Lions, tigers and other carnivores fresh for a whole year? Why did he take mosquitoes, tapeworms, guinea worms and the HIV virus aboard the ark? Did he infect himself with all those parasites, or did he force his wife and children to carry them? How come all the animals didn't freeze to death at 9,000 metres altitude (the height of Mount Everest which must have been underwater) Where did they find oxygen to breathe at that height? What did all the animals eat after getting off the ark? All the plants must have died after a year underwater, and all the animals would have drowned so no food for herbivores or carnivores. How come all the fish in the ocean survived? Saltwater fish can't survive in freshwater and the ocean would have been massively diluted with all that rain. Or did the ark also have a salty fish tank with space for 60,000 fish (30,000 species x 2)? And how did he feed all those fish?

Not that I'm doubting this ark story mind you. Its in the Bible after all, so it must be true. I'm just curious about a few technicalities. I'm sure you have good explanations for all of them.

emmog25:

Jesus! So surprised that Mankind can type this?! You've obviously doubt the existence of God.. I plea the Grace of God, wisdom,knowlegde and understanding on you.

Irony of everything is people like you still live longer, as God want it.

Mudley313:

That nigga bible god even condones slavery which your white slave masters used in forcing your mumu-self to accept his religion without the use of your god given brain to think about the ridiculousness of the bible

Mudley313:

smh...what's the difference between terrorist acts committed by boko haram and al-qaeda and all the barbaric atrocities committed by your savage jewish god throughout the old testament?

“This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

That nigga bible god even condones slavery which your white slave masters used in forcing your mumu-self to accept his religion without the use of your god given brain to think about the ridiculousness of the bible

“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)

luluosas:
My dear friend, don't let their attitudes offset you at all. They know themselves of whom the bible spoke about. Proverbs 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

phuck_NL:

Unless Noah's ark was as big as the entire earth itself, this story is a MYTH. It was written by PEOPLE. Why is it so hard to believe that PEOPLE LIE.
The same people who said the earth was flat, who said there was a ladder than connected HEAVEN to the earth?
Thank God for Astronauts, we know all that was a lie.

Mr Aboki:



No..

The real problem with Man is that we still have humans like you who still are afraid to push the boundaries.. Ask questions, test Logic, etc..

How can you believe all those ridiculous stories in the Bible (which you subconciously know that they are far-fetched) without questioning them. Now if I were God, the people who will go to hell are those who failed to seek knowledge.

God.. You dont even know what that is. All you know is that you have been told about the existence of a heavenly plain with winged Angels soaring around in white robes, a God with a Son and no wife and then the Holy Spirit who I still dont understand his role. You rely on religous manuscripts allegedly written by people who existed in a time when Malaria was a killer disease and the inventor of the Abacus would have been stoned. You are quick to swallow hook line and sinker the stories in the bible without even bothering to use the Sense that God has given you to ponder on them.

Your playstation Analogy is re:tarded. I know Sony. Sony is real not imagined or read up in a book. Sony is still present and keeps updating the Playstation to match the present times. The most recent book of the Bible is still older than 1000 years.

The day you conciously start using the brains that 'GOD' has given you, thats the day you would be free from bondage. The day you can read the story of Job and see it as God & Satan playing Ludo with a Humans life, then you will be free.. The day you read the Noah story and see that even if by chance that was ture, it was Genocide, then you will be emancipated, The day you look at the Bible and see it as an Isreali/Jewish package that has little regard for Blacks & Africa, then your salvation would have started.


Even God sef no fit believe that a 600 year old Man could have built an Ark..

If I told you a story about my fore-fathers how Elder Aboki in 1400 B.C at the age of 500 years old impregnanted a Woman, you would say I am lying. If that same story were in the Bible, You would put your hands on it and be praying with it..

Now what is the Problem with Mankind again?!

989900:

Logic?! Really?! tell that to a solipsist or heretic. Hell, we can't even all agree 1+1=2.

Tell me how logic explains a man in India who's not eaten, drank nor passed urine nor stool for 70 years.

Or, his fellow country man who tried to commit suicide by hugging a high voltage transformer, only to discover the transformer had nothing on him. He can't be electrocuted. Now if that was written in the bible you'd call it fairy tale.

Or ask Bruce Gernon how he was able to do a time warp of 30 minutes forward in time, and 100 miles forward in space over the Bermuda triangle which is just one of the many mysteries surrounding that axis (so much for time and space being constants).

So much for "logic".

And because you dont understand any of the things you wrote in your post, you simply take the lazy mans option oof attributing it to God instead of researching it further to unravel the mystery..

So much for Logic indeed..

989900:

Logic?! Really?! tell that to a solipsist or heretic. Hell, we can't even all agree 1+1=2.

Tell me how logic explains a man in India who's not eaten, drank nor passed urine nor stool for 70 years.

Or, his fellow country man who tried to commit suicide by hugging a high voltage transformer, only to discover the transformer had nothing on him. He can't be electrocuted. Now if that was written in the bible you'd call it fairy tale.

Or ask Bruce Gernon how he was able to do a time warp of 30 minutes forward in time, and 100 miles forward in space over the Bermuda triangle which is just one of the many mysteries surrounding that axis (so much for time and space being constants).

So much for "logic".

And because you dont understand any of the things you wrote in your post, you simply take the lazy mans option oof attributing it to God instead of researching it further to unravel the mystery..

And did you know that Bruce Gernon's story was never verified by anybody but himself?! And that He also claims to have seen several UFOs..
And the Indian guy you spoke about not eating is Prahlad Jani.. His claims have also never been independently verified by Medical Scientists.

Never heard of the electrocution guy, but its possible..


So much for Logic indeed..

Mr Aboki:



No..

The real problem with Man is that we still have humans like you who still are afraid to push the boundaries.. Ask questions, test Logic, etc..

How can you believe all those ridiculous stories in the Bible (which you subconciously know that they are far-fetched) without questioning them. Now if I were God, the people who will go to hell are those who failed to seek knowledge.

God.. You dont even know what that is. All you know is that you have been told about the existence of a heavenly plain with winged Angels soaring around in white robes, a God with a Son and no wife and then the Holy Spirit who I still dont understand his role. You rely on religous manuscripts allegedly written by people who existed in a time when Malaria was a killer disease and the inventor of the Abacus would have been stoned. You are quick to swallow hook line and sinker the stories in the bible without even bothering to use the Sense that God has given you to ponder on them.

Your playstation Analogy is re:tarded. I know Sony. Sony is real not imagined or read up in a book. Sony is still present and keeps updating the Playstation to match the present times. The most recent book of the Bible is still older than 1000 years.

The day you conciously start using the brains that 'GOD' has given you, thats the day you would be free from bondage. The day you can read the story of Job and see it as God & Satan playing Ludo with a Humans life, then you will be free.. The day you read the Noah story and see that even if by chance that was ture, it was Genocide, then you will be emancipated, The day you look at the Bible and see it as an Isreali/Jewish package that has little regard for Blacks & Africa, then your salvation would have started.


Even God sef no fit believe that a 600 year old Man could have built an Ark..

If I told you a story about my fore-fathers how Elder Aboki in 1400 B.C at the age of 500 years old impregnanted a Woman, you would say I am lying. If that same story were in the Bible, You would put your hands on it and be praying with it..

Now what is the Problem with Mankind again?!

Mr Aboki:


And because you dont understand any of the things you wrote in your post, you simply take the lazy mans option oof attributing it to God instead of researching it further to unravel the mystery..

So much for Logic indeed..

Mr Aboki:


And because you dont understand any of the things you wrote in your post, you simply take the lazy mans option oof attributing it to God instead of researching it further to unravel the mystery..

And did you know that Bruce Gernon's story was never verified by anybody but himself?! And that He also claims to have seen several UFOs..
And the Indian guy you spoke about not eating is Prahlad Jani.. His claims have also never been independently verified by Medical Scientists.

Never heard of the electrocution guy, but its possible..


So much for Logic indeed..

Joshthefirst: wetin you dey tok here aboki? Menene ka-ina yi? Go and read the bibilical account of the flood and look at our world today. There is more than enough evidence. And don't begin to dey tok of logic oo. The atheists I argued with earlier believe in illogic and destructive physics and they accuse me of being illogical.

Ina wini?




This thread has gone far. Smh.


And evil brain still repeated the nonsense questions again?
Chei.

The bible specifically says noah took different kinds. The landscape was much different then. The mountains then, if a flood as great as that occurred, would be much lower and different from the ones of today. HIV is a virus. Different strains of viruses appear very quickly. If people are still arguing about viruses and microbes here, they are joking, not to be taken seriously.

<sub>NOTE:: Forget that crap you wrote about the Mountains not being that high because the Bible speaks of great mountains in the time before the flood. Were these great mountains mentioned in the Bible only a few feet high?

Just to jog your biblical memory, please read: Exodus 19:16-19.. And tell me that a mountain that has coulds resting on it was a small mountain.. Or your defence would be that the clouds were lower in those days... iKid, iKid..</sub>

Pope Xander VII: It's funny how Africans don't believe Oduduwa came down from Heaven on a Ladder, yet you believe a Tale as Outrageous and as ridiculous as the Tale of Noah.

oiseworld:

If what you want is the measurement and size of the ship, then go back to the Bible it gives accurate measurement of the size of the ark. We have ships today that can house every animal in the world. If it can be done now then it could be done then.

Genesis 6 should help.

989900:

Oh I'm guessing you do. Kindly enlighten us oh "wise one".


And as far as their relation to logic goes, the above mentioned examples are illogical, but of course reality. Which negates your assumption that if it's not logical, then it's impossible.

Rexyl:

The world of spirit and the physical are are different things which influence each other. Believing, relying and calling on deities/gods for quick signs without following a written document don't come just like that without proper dedication to certain ordinances and doing rituals. Christians ritual to appease God is the documented words of grace and truth of the New testament. Asking and receiving from God depends on trust/faith and obedience to Him, His mercy and grace.

Certain circumstances may contend the originality of message as given by God through revelation but its validity is a function of what it meant to achieve at a time or all times and what is required from people.

989900:
1. The flood covering the whole earth shouldn't necessarily mean the whole physical earth. But the portion occupied by the peoples of those time.
2. The Bible clearly states the earth is round.
3. Connecting the heavens to earth does not necessarily have to be in a literal sense. The bible is like some cipher, and trying to interpret it literally would only send you in all wrong directions. And on the flip side, travelling say from Lagos to planet Saturn in few hours or days might actually even be possible by humans in the future via "worm holes". I figure the intelligent creator/designer of all creations call him God, call whatever, believe in him or not, would sure have even a smarter way/technology.

Joshthefirst: And this is not godidit. Besides, what's wrong with God did it? Why are you so against God then? If he claims he did it and its recorded and there's evidence, what's wrong? Why does this very fact threaten you? The same people go around shouting randomness and chance did it and expect to be taken seriously. Mtchew.

Mr Aboki:


You want to tell me, a Geological Engineer about the proof that the entire earth was once flooded at the same time..

Mr Aboki:
Na wah o!! Now I feel like an e-bully..

Mr Aboki:
Okay.. Did you know that;

1. The Great Pyramid of Cheops was built about 2589-2566 BC, about 230 years before the flood, yet it has no water marks on it.

Mr Aboki:
2. The Djoser Step Pyramid at Saqqara, Egypt, built about 2630 BC doesn't show any signs of having been under water.

Mr Aboki:
3. the Egyptians have continuous historical records for hundreds of years before and after the time of the flood that make no mention of a great flood.

Mr Aboki:
4. To cover even Mount Ararat, where Noah's Ark supposedly landed after the flood, in 40 days would require over 400 feet of water per day. That's not 400 inches, but 400 feet a day.

Mr Aboki:
_{NOTE:: Forget that crap you wrote about the Mountains not being that high because the Bible speaks of great mountains in the time before the flood. Were these great mountains mentioned in the Bible only a few feet high?}

Mr Aboki:
Just to jog your biblical memory, please read: Exodus 19:16-19.. And tell me that a mountain that has coulds resting on it was a small mountain.. Or your defence would be that the clouds were lower in those days... iKid, iKid..

Mr Aboki:
Finally _{For now..}:: Go and read the Babylonian story of Gilgamesh (Which is older than the story of Noah..).. Then come back and tell me what you noticed in the story..

Mr Aboki:


You brought me the stories..

Show me the proof of them all..

Show me verifiable proofs posted in renowned Journals by renowed Scientists..

If not, you must believe me when I tell you that My Father is the Younger Brother of Jesus who was also born via Immaculate conception and My Grandmother who had 10 sons died a Virgin..


O!! And My Brother also was swallowed by a Sardine and he still lives there currently.. I visited him last week..

phuck_NL:

Here's my question to you. WHO recorded it? Because we all know GOD did not write the BIBLE.
I ask again, why should I believe that WHAT the writers wrote/recorded is true since most of their stories do not add up.
If MAN has been lieing since Adam and Eve, what makes it different this time around. How can you tell me with 100% certainty that the writers did not LIE for their own selfish benefits.

If the Records had fallen from the SKY, fine. We know it didn't. It was compiled by MAN.
MAN lies.

phuck_NL:

English is not my first language. You've lost me. Abeg reduce the big words. I'm not joking. I really didn't get your response.





Why is it a cipher. Why should it be hard to understand. Why can't it be easy to understand so everyone makes heaven. Why do we need special people to decipher it? Are we not all equal? Usually when you need specific people to decipher "things" there is a hidden agenda.