Well i read it again, and it doesn't say that the wife was battered by her husband, so i really dont understand, pa-pa dim and onyinye, she only said she was battered by her husband, which was her cover-up.

onyinye2:

Have you ever met a woman who was being abused? guess not.

i haven't met one. but which life is better, living with a beast at home or spending the rest of your life in jail or ending your life pre maturely (death sentence)?

pc guru,

that was why i said no matter what happened ABSOLUTELY no one has the right to KILL another person. whether it was true or a calculated act , she is GUILTY, PERIOD.

Murder is a bitch.

I agree with her lawyer. It was defense.

If a woman has been abused countless times, she'll do anything to get out of that situation, esp. if she fears his next abuse.

Depends on what the abuse is. Well, abuse is abuse sha! The man deserved it. Atleast it was painless, me I would have suffocated him or strangled him.

Poor woman, her actions must have been the effect of fear, who could blame her?

As to your question, why should women be allowed to kill because of fear?
SINCE you men still consider women as fragile creatures, then women will continue to be looked upon as innocent and defenseless. Even some women that should be put to jail, they'll be allowed to roam free, awaiting their next prey.

This is why we're telling y'al it's time for equality, but nooo!!

Moreover, Why should men be allowed to abuse their wife? What is the catalyst that drives them to such action? Sometimes human beings baffles me!

what is she defending herself against in sleep?

KarmaMod:

what is she defending herself against in sleep?

Who knows?
Maybe he was abusing her with his snorings?

On a serious note, maybe her lawyer was just trying to use any tecnique to get her out of trouble?
I mean, who could blame a woman that "took care" of an abusive man, by herself?
Lady couldn't take it anymore, enough was enough. She did what she had to do.
Depressing that she got caught

dreeldee as far as he was breathing he posed a threat as far as she is concerened. This is why it is always best to leave the first time he slaps you or shoves you. It only gets to this point after a long history of physical and mental abuse.

I think what the judges need to start doing is looking at the history of the relationship. If she had a chance to get out and CHOSE not to then she contributed to the abuse. I know it sounds harsh but you do have control over things like this.

Ruby_Pearl on Yesterday at 02:16:04 AM :
As to your question, why should women be allowed to kill because of fear?
SINCE you men still consider women as fragile creatures, then women will continue to be looked upon as innocent and defenseless. Even some women that should be put to jail, they'll be allowed to roam free, awaiting their next prey.

This is why we're telling y'al it's time for equality, but nooo!!

Here we go again . . . reh reh reh
The equality card always work doesn't it?

In the UK, it's now a civil offence for a company to pay a man more money than his female counterpart when they do the same job.
It's this same UK that has women winning everything in courts, the law's having an open loophole, and lawyers never cease to use it.
I'm questioning the moral backing here . . . and u're telling me bout equality

Moreover, Why should men be allowed to abuse their wife? What is the catalyst that drives them to such action? Sometimes human beings baffles me!

Men are NOT allowed to abuse their wives!!!
Don't say what you don't know

Was reading on the net about one convicted killer, she was arrested for killing her husband
Fine, there's nothing new bout sumn like that, but the funny part is the fact that she claimed it was 'self defence'

This is kind of strange given the fact that she shot her husband in his sleep
He was defenceless, at his weakest, posing no threat to her safety at that exact moment

Her defence lawyer claimed she was suffering from the after-effect of consistent abuse, he pled the battered woman syndrome

My question is Is this 'syndrome' not just another attempt by the law to leave a loophole for criminals to escape?
Since it has been proven that every killer does so for a reason, why should women be allowed to kill because of fear'

IMO. . . . "Battered Wife Syndrome" is a meanz of justifying a woman for killin her huzband. . .
based on the fact that she haz really suffered long-term violence in marriage.

I don't think iz a kind of attempt by d law to leave loophole for criminals 2 escape!
As such women would be convicted of a lesser offence like Manslaughter rather than Murder.!!!

Moyola:

IMO. . . . "Battered Wife Syndrome" is a meanz of justifying a woman for killin her huzband. . .
based on the fact that she haz really suffered long-term violence in marriage.

I don't think iz a kind of attempt by d law to leave loophole for criminals 2 escape!
As such women would be convicted of a lesser offence like Manslaughter rather than Murder.!!!

Clemency Granted to 25 Women Convicted for Assault or Murder for 'Battered Spouse Syndrome
This was in Ohio as far back as 1990

eldee:

Here we go again . . . reh reh reh
The equality card always work doesn't it?

In the UK, it's now a civil offence for a company to pay a man more money than his female counterpart when they do the same job.
It's this same UK that has women winning everything in courts, the law's having an open loophole, and lawyers never cease to use it.
I'm questioning the moral backing here . . . and u're telling me bout equality

Wetin be reh reh reh gan? eyin omo UK ati isokuso yin
Hmm, but UK is begining to sound pleasant, hmm1

As to your statement, there is no moral backing in a woman killing her hubby ( ), but when it comes to self-defense ( In general), one does not care if there's moral or not, he/she must do anything to protect himself/herself.

If a man is abusing his wife or husband (  ), then he better expect same treatment or sth worse, later on.

eldee:

Men are NOT allowed to abuse their wives!!!
Don't say what you don't know

Of course not, the word is not that crazy.
But some humans are just brutal enough to think that a woman is a toy, a toy which can be played with anyhow

Ruby_Pearl:

Wetin be reh reh reh gan? eyin omo UK ati isokuso yin
Hmm, but UK is begining to sound pleasant, hmm1

As to your statement, there is no moral backing in a woman killing her hubby ( ), but when it comes to self-defense ( In general), one does not care if there's moral or not, he/she must do anything to protect himself/herself.

Self defence is 'This dude is coming to me with a knife, if I don't shoot him, he'll kill me'
It's has to be during a threat to your life and has to be equal or lesser effect than the original threat
A man in his sleep poses no danger
It's not even a crime of passion, it COLD-BLOODED murder

eldee:

Self defence is 'This dude is coming to me with a knife, if I don't shoot him, he'll kill me'
It's has to be during a threat to your life and has to be equal or lesser effect than the original threat
A man in his sleep poses no danger
It's not even a crime of passion, it COLD-BLOODED murder

Seems like you didn't see the "In general" after the self defense.
Maybe the lady feared being abused when he wakes?
She was defending herself from future abuse

You don't even know the whole story behind it all.
Maybe he threaten to kill her later on, who knows?

ruby_pearl: Seems like you didn't see the "In general" after the self defense.
Maybe the lady feared being abused when he wakes?
She was defending herself from future abuse

You don't even know the whole story behind it all.
Maybe he threaten to kill her later on, who knows?

Nlanders and their incredible ability to produce may-bes
If you're defending yourself from future abuse, RUN!!! Get him restrained!!! Kill him when he's flipping awake
Not when he's asleep, cut off from the entire world

eldee:

Nlanders and their incredible ability to produce may-bes
If you're defending yourself from future abuse, RUN!!! Get him restrained!!! Kill him when he's flipping awake
Not when he's asleep, cut off from the entire world

Not everyone is perfect.
Same goes to a robber that knows he'll be bankrupt later, but instead of getting a job, he spends like he don't care.
Humans are not the exact example of Perfection, sometimes they don't think before they act. sad, isn't it?

Ruby_Pearl: Not everyone is perfect.
Same goes to a robber that knows he'll be bankrupt later, but instead of getting a job, he spends like he don't care.
Humans are not the exact example of Perfection, sometimes they don't think before they act. sad, isn't it?

AHA!!! So the poverty-stricken robber should be punished
The fraudulent senator should be punished
But the cold-blooded murderer shouldn't. Why? Because Toyin thinks she's not perfect!!

eldee:

AHA!!! So the poverty-stricken robber should be punished
The fraudulent senator should be punished
But the cold-blooded murderer shouldn't.

No, she should not be punished.
The man deserved it! If he hadn't brutally abused her, then she woudn't have done what she did.

eldee:

Why? Because Toyin thinks she's not perfect!!

Yes, I don't think am perfect.
But that's not the reason why I think she should go free.
Not because she's not perfect either, but because the murder was the cause of the "murderess" trying to protect herself.

Ruby_Pearl: No, she should not be punished.
The man deserved it! If he hadn't brutally abused her, then she woudn't have done what she did.

What you just described now is not self defence, it's JUNGLE JUSTICE

[quote Ruby_Pearl]Yes, I don't think am perfect.
But that's not the reason why I think she should go free.
Not because she's not perfect either, but because the murder was the cause of the "murderess" trying to protect herself. [quote][/quote]
How many times do I need to scream that you can't protect yourself against someone that's not attacking you at the moment

eldee:

What you just described now is not self defence, it's JUNGLE JUSTICE
How many times do I need to scream that you can't protect yourself against someone that's not attacking you at the moment

As long as it is justice.
So you're saying that she should have killed him while he was awake?
Potato potata, he was still going to get killed anywaz.

Ruby_Pearl: As long as it is justice.
So you're saying that she should have killed him while he was awake?
Potato potata, he was still going to get killed anywaz.

She should have killed him when he was attacking . . . c'est fini
_{Haba . . . I'm nodding off already}

eldee:

She should have killed him when he was attacking . . . c'est fini
_{Haba . . . I'm nodding off already}

While he was attacking her ke?
Do you know his size, his strength?
Do you know her motif for killing him while he was asleep?
Don't you think she feared him overpowering her while he's awake?

Some women are psychos, no matter how much a man abuse them, they'll always feel for him.
Maybe she attempted to kill him before, but he sweet talked her out of it, she loved him too much to kill him while he was "finally" admiring her.
She couldn't take it anymore! Had to kill him while he was sleeping, when he couldn't move or do anything about it!
I've watched such cases on CrimeTv, it may be just a TV show, but it's cases that can actually happen. Which I think it's same as the case you brought up on your thread.


_{~you're not the only one nodding off here, I must take my nap now. bodi dey tire, ya know. laterz~}

For self defense, you can kill someone in their sleep but you will have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that not doing so will definitely put your own life at risk, including violent death.

I love the idea of this syndrome. I believe it really exists because it's a deep psychological state of mind.
_{However, this will be the reason i'll use when i finally shoot HIM}

She had the guts to shoot? Why didn't she use that same guts to simply walk out of the relationship?

stillwater: She had the guts to shoot? Why didn't she use that same guts to simply walk out of the relationship?

You're a genius!!!
Have you ever considered a career as a DA

Hmmm, it never crossed my mind.

stillwater:

She had the guts to shoot? Why didn't she use that same guts to simply walk out of the relationship?

It's not that easy, esp. if she has children by him

Is it also easy killing the father of your kids?

stillwater:

Is it also easy killing the father of your kids?

Why not when he'a beating her in from of her kids?

No all women are strong enough to just step aside and find the right escape route.

she sure must have inhibited the rge for dat man overtime, and perhaps and more likely,she is schizophrenic

Schizo kini?

She was being abused! Of course she'll develop rage for him.

thats the poinjt am driving at, developing rage could take her from the simple to the catatonic stage of schizo.no ordinary dude will pick up a gun to the pop of her kids