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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 10:58pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Nihilist:Whilst emphasizing my neutrality, I must admit that this bit in bold was funny... 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Kimoni: 9:11am On Nov 21, 2015 |
And so kimoni is posting here again Francistony, Ghjoes and all the other bitter and frustrated women out there Can you bring it on? Guys, sorry I am doing this here. My postings on this thread is apparently giving some hypertension I see that statement everywhere on NL They need to bring it on right now and meet their waterloo cuz I won't stop posting here They should go and improve their mental faculty rather than jolosing those who do 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Mutaino7(m): 10:55am On Nov 21, 2015 |
Kimoni:they're vultures...they only feed when they see carrions hence their gathering in coogars thread throw subtle jabs to encompass diz thread.. even one of dem dem don enter here.. 5 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by 5minsmadness: 11:26am On Nov 21, 2015 |
Why are there so many "feminised" males on nairaland though. Is it so in real life? |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 11:31am On Nov 21, 2015 |
Kimoni:Hehehehe... |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 11:33am On Nov 21, 2015 |
5minsmadness:More pertinent is the question, why are there so many unhappy married women on family section who just enjoy hating on women who relate well with the guys? 4 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by ApexTitan(m): 12:05pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
5minsmadness: It's bad everywhere; real life, nairaland, mainstream media, everywhere. Too many men who go out of their way to appease women at the expense of their own dignity, it's sad to watch. Just five minutes ago before I logged on here I was trying to watch a tv show (The Newsroom season 3) but I had to stop in disgust - all the male characters who were supposedly reasonable men were absolute simps or buffoons. I come online and see all kinds of excuses men make for women and I begin to wonder if there is any hope at all. Everywhere you turn there is an emasculated man singing the same song. 3 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by lilmax(m): 12:36pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
Kimoni: |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 1:10pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
Mindfulness, when you I was always happy to answer any posed my way and I know a few others were as well, Now after hearing more from you, I’d like to ask some of my own. Most of us would consider our positions to be rooted in truth and morally sound – if we are being serious and not just having a laugh or outright trolling. I would like to believe you do too. I’ve heard you say things like; - A person “has a right” to pursue her feelings, regardless of the fallout or impact on others - That that person has no responsibility for what happens to others - That you know how to make yourself happy, and a persons responsibility is first to make themselves happy - I’ve heard you talk “ emotional health” and throw the term “healing” around a lot. And talk of not judging or condemning - You talk about how emotionally healthy people are not dependent or shouldn’t suffer if people leave them or walk out of their lives. In sum, your ideology/theology appears to me to be “self(ish)-help” at best and a kind of “do as thy will at worst”? Would you care to explain a little more, and answer the specific questions. They won’t be all at once and each response may take time to be fully understood., so this may be a convo over time. Appreciate if you would rather not. As noted this one is primarily for Mindfulness, but I sense that MizMyColi is treading the same path, so I’m happy for your contributions also - and of course, anyone else who is treading this path or simply interested. Consider it a proper invite to the men’ thread First question; Does this "path" or journey have a name? If so what is it? Do you consider it ideology/theology/philosophy or just lifestyle. I know I said 1 question and it is really TV 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 1:16pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
TV01: TV01, I will gladly answer your questions later because I am about to leave the house. Have a nice Saturday. I'll be back later. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by 5minsmadness: 1:42pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
ApexTitan: Someone posts a very reasonable comment here on how to make choices in life concerning the opposite gender, and a male rushes in like voltron, like he gets paid to lay off his own gender. And there are more examples like this all over nairaland. It baffles me no end. there is something someone said about francis here while dissing him that made me think though. Is it possible that more boys are being raised by single moms and in the process these same single moms transfer their hatred of the male species to thier male kids hence emasculating them? I mean, women are vindictive, its the kind of thing most of them can do, raise a child to hate all men because of what one man did to you. Then again is it because they so desperately want the V? I have seen young men do extremely stupid things just so they can gain favour with the female folk so as to get into their pants. I understand that hustle but I wonder dont they have any male pride in them? Dont they have any shame at all? Most guys I know will always stand up to defend a woman, dont get me wrong. Its the simpering weakling approach and insisting that a woman can do no wrong that bothers me. 5 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 2:01pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
Where is coogar. Cooooooooogaaaaaaaar. Come in here let's talk about putting you on a regime to work on that stomach Since you have been shouting fit fit fit. I no no say you carry mama Ngozi belly Coogarrrrr Come out where ever you are ......... 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 2:30pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
The whole world - with the possible exception of large parts of Iraq and Syria - are gradually becoming femcentric. One of the outworkings of this is that instaed of men' identity being formed primarily by males and the masculine tradition, they are being formed in a way that caters to the service of women. It's can only change the dynamic of the relationship between men and women. Is that a good or bad thing? I guess we'll see, but we can see some evidence of it not being all good. And funnily enough, women don't particularly like the kind of men that are raised with a feminine imperative . 5minsmadness: ApexTitan: TV |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 3:04pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
What to say? Funnily enough he agreed with the submission? But went on to have a hissy fit about the premise being "fallacious"' Just to be clear and to give him the benefit of the doubt, I clarified - clarified something that was clearly implied throughout - further. Not sure how he even found his way here? He seemed very much at home amongst the men with fannies (MWF), who seemed to be in a state of orgasmic delight publicly haranguing coogar over something like 7 days, 4 threads, hundreds of posts and what seemed like multiple sleepless nights. You'd think they'd give their hands some respite . They are probably still there now. Families, jobs, life nko And most of them were at best hypocritical to boot; a convicted felon, an adulterer and someone who claims to eschew all moral imperatives and religious strictures - taking the moral high ground. The sheer hypocrisy of it all. And the effrontery of one both amoral and irreligious to not only do that, but to accuse me of "moral posturing" I was however more perturbed by the rumours about, and nervous twitching of some of our resident females. Differences, beefs and past wars aside , I'm quite fond/protective of some of them, and wouldn't want to think them capable of some of the things claimed or insinuated. Perhaps I need to reconsider? I can be so naive sometimes. 5minsmadness: TV 2 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by ApexTitan(m): 3:14pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
Regarding Feminized men It may really be a combination of several factors that brings this about. In single mom arrangements or homes where both parents are present but the father has relegated the bulk of parenting responsibilities to the wife, the boys/children will very likely be raised to be emasculated or "betasized". It may not be because of hate on the woman's part but the fact that women are incapable of providing that balancing influence that only a positive or grounded father can give. The boys will learn to defer to feminine ideals by default. Of course this situation is not helped by the gynocentric barrage supplied by the media and society at large. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by coogar: 4:12pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
Chillisauce: stop looking for my trouble. the belly is super-fit. i put in 2-3 hours everyday to have it in a trimmed condition. if it's trimmer than it is, I would be anorexic. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by kramfonos(m): 4:18pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
5minsmadness: Probably some social recluses who depend on the commendations of these (bitter) women to validate their banal existence. 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 8:37pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
TV01: I ask a lot of questions to acquire a deeper and profound understanding. I was very neutral on one of the threads, which I think you are referring to here, until I was confronted with a huge amount of bias, which I felt needed some balance. Whatever the result of all it was, I had a lot of fun and I learned many things. I was always happy to answer any posed my way and I know a few others were as well, Now after hearing more from you, I’d like to ask some of my own. That's the problem and that's the reason why so many discussions end in insults or long-lasting hostility. People defend their positions like they know it all and like they are in possession of an objective truth. It would be more fun and more fruitful if we were able to accept the fact that our opinions are just opinions, which are often based on our very subjective experience and perception. We should also remember that we are evolving beings, who continuously learn and therefore should feel free and be open-minded enough to change our views. I don't think anyone here has the same views at the age of 25 or 30 that he or she had when they were 14. This is why I love children and teenagers so much. They are so much more open-minded. They don't have extremely rigid opinions but their brains are also much more plastic - which is why it is easier for them to acquire new knowledge and therefore to change their perspective. I’ve heard you say things like; Everyone has the right to pursue happiness. The rest of the statement is taken out of context and I wouldn't subscribe to it unconditionally. - That that person has no responsibility for what happens to others Nobody is responsible for someone else's happiness. - That you know how to make yourself happy, and a persons responsibility is first to make themselves happy Absolutely. - I’ve heard you talk “ emotional health” and throw the term “healing” around a lot. And talk of not judging or condemning I can judge behavior but I don't want to judge or condemn a human being. - You talk about how emotionally healthy people are not dependent or shouldn’t suffer if people leave them or walk out of their lives. Emotionally healthy people surround themselves with people and things that are good for them. I don't want to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do but it is possible to be happy regardless of conditions and circumstances. It has been a very liberating lesson for me to understand that I do not need anyone to feel good and that my spouse's presence or absence is not necessary for me to feel great. From this place, I can love my spouse unconditionally even when the person leaves and I am so full of happiness and joy that my spouse loves to be around me. I do not place on anyone the responsibility and burden of me feeling good and satisfied. Whatever you do for me, you do it freely and if you can't do it from a place of joy, you don't have to do it at all. I, for my part, have a lot of love to share. In sum, your ideology/theology appears to me to be “self(ish)-help” at best and a kind of “do as thy will at worst”? My ideology is that it is good to be selfish and that by being selfish I have a lot to offer. My theology is that we are all Gods / Goddesses. Would you care to explain a little more, and answer the specific questions. They won’t be all at once and each response may take time to be fully understood., so this may be a convo over time. Appreciate if you would rather not. It is my pleasure to share it with you as long as we can remain friendly and respectful. MizMyColi, just like I, discovered a great spiritual teacher along the beautiful journey called life and this is what we have in common. However, my beautiful, spiritual journey didn't begin and end with this teacher and I have taken the whole thing a step further meanwhile. Consider it a proper invite to the men’ thread I feel honored. First question; Does this "path" or journey have a name? If so what is it? Do you consider it ideology/theology/philosophy or just lifestyle. I know I said 1 question and it is really It doesn't have a name. It is a spiritual journey but my personal one and not bound to any particular school of thought, philosophy or ideology. I am notorious for cherry-picking. I am in love with Buddhism as a life style and I embrace many of the Christian core values, as I understand and interpret them, but I am neither a Buddhist nor a Christian. I am a divine and eternal being and I believe that everyone else is, too. Even those who irritate me at times. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by MizMyColi(f): 8:59pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
@Mindfulness I'm trying not to be overly expressive here, so I don't seem socially awkward.... Y'know what? Fvck that! I could sooo hug you right now!!! Waow! That was some brilliance. Waow! Waowzest. Lolzzz As noted this one is primarily for Mindfulness, but I sense that mizmycoli is treading the same path, so I’m happy for your contributions also - and of course, anyone else who is treading this path or simply interested. Quite frankly, it's either I didn't read the emboldened above, or I mumble jumbled it because, I was subconsciously keen on reading her reply. Having said all she has, there's not one bit I disagree with. If I were to add anything, it'd be mere repetition using different words. If you would, I'd prefer I answer questions directed at me. Thanks and Good Evening From Nigeria, TV01. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 9:06pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
MizMyColi: You are a sweetheart. 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 10:17pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
Please can you leave all this philosophy girlie stuff from here This is the boys room 1 Like |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by bellong: 10:22pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by damiso(f): 10:26pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
pickabeau1: Oga pick you know I don't cross your boys room boundary but because I follow you I saw this post .. Permit me to Am sure your madam must not dare enter your 'man cave ' study or room to curl her weave on. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 10:26pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
pickabeau1: I am on the VIP invitation list. |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by pickabeau1: 10:28pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
damiso: Good day ma'am We like to have the ladies post but the posts must be something we can relate to Lol Mindfulness: Post something we can relate to |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by damiso(f): 10:31pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
pickabeau1: 2 Likes |
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by 5minsmadness: 10:33pm On Nov 21, 2015 |
Mindfulness: Good evening. Interesting response. @bolded pls I would really like to know how you got to this point. How do you generate inner happiness/satisfaction or whatever regardless of being surrouded by unappreciativeness and hostility? @red bolded what about an abusive spouse? How does the victim cope when every day the spouse is out to make the other's life miserable? I'm seeing Buddhism and suddenly an alarm goes off in my head. I know you said your philosophy doesnt have a name but i dont know why i find it hard to beleive. What are you selling ma'm? |
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