hopelink1: YORUBA KWENU!!! the relationship would be better IF the igbos can give us the honour we deserve--- our superiority over them .

BadBoy25: who has the time to read through all these Long Gibberish ? seeing the Long write up already made me lose interest . you guys need to learn to summarize your post, no one has time to waste .
what is the relationship between Igbo and Yoruba? is it bad or Good ? make it straightforward instead of composing a Novel . Time is Money .

Blockus:


Move on to what?!

Move on to where?!

How do you move when you have been anchored to one spot for so long?!

Dont make the same mistakes of our forefathers. They trusted those Westerners and they paid the price with the blood of their kinsmen and children. Go and ask the Deltans what about the Asaba massacre and tell them to move on.

I am not surprised you speak like this, you can move on, we will be waiting to see ow that works out for you. Many have passed that road and very few have lived to tell the story.

For Nigeria to move forward, the Yoruba people must go.

Blockus: OP,

I find this thread offensive to ndi Igbos.

We dont have any relationship whatsoever with the Yorubas.

They have proven to be untrust worthy since the beginning of time. They are two faced, back-stabbing and maliciously wicked and have demonstrated it time and time again. Lets not forget that the genocidal aspect of the civil war where food and medical supply were cut off from the East was not suggested by the Northerners but by a Yoruba man. Lets not even forget that there would not have been a war per se if the Yorubas had stuck to their end of the bargain from the Aburi accord held in Ghana.

The Yorubas are not trust worthy at all and thats the root of our problems in Nigeria. Atleast the Hausas have shown us where they stand from the very beginning.

Missmossy: Tom and Jerry relationship indeed. For those with sense,its quite obvious that Nigeria has achieved a lot with both tribes. I see no reason for bigotry and unnecessary tribalistic comments.

kenomobola: Beautiful, and concise writeup. It's quite sad that the present generation of Igbos and Yorubas are determined to relive and reenact the mistakes of their fathers. Let us leave all the stereotyping (passed down to us from our parents) and treat each individual on a case by case basis.
Thank you.

tonychristopher:
74 percent of investment in Lagos are own by Igbos. 5 percent by Hausa/Fulani, 15 percent by Foreigners(Non-Nigerians), 5 percent by other Nigerians(Non Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba), 1 percent by Yorubas (which include Mike Adenuga).

The problem here is that Igbos migrate more than others and they are been tagged criminals even caught Yoruba criminals most times claim Igbo.

tonychristopher: By 2030, Yorubas will become minority in Nigeria and even in South west as Igbos and Hausas have taken over all the business opportunities because the acclaimed native (Yoruba) are NATURALLY very lazy to their bones".

Its always sad when an entire tribe receives insult or their character unearthed due to the insanity of one individual who claimed to be their son, but might be fathered by unknown hired Niger Soldier during the Nigerian - Biafra civil war.

When Lagos was the capital of Nigeria Hausa/Fulani and igbos invested hugely in Lagos city. After the shift of Lagos as capital of Nigeria to Abuja, they took over the economy of Lagos from the British. From onset, Yorubas were only busy dancing Owanbe in the streets of Lagos and Ibadan.

Till date, their lazy bones couldn't allow them invest and assist the boost of Nigeria's economy.

Hausa and Igbos took over South west economy from British not from yorubas and its never by force or with arms but by economic skills and strategies built through progressive business mind. The Simple fact is that, they took over the economy because majority of yorubas are very lazy and few educated ones among them only want a white collor job where they will be accountants or useless lawyer for the Hausa and igbo rich men.

Let us specifically give some of these ignorant Yorubas commons sense analogue and idea about Igbos economic dominance and Hausa business and agricultural progresses.

Igbos did not see Yorubas in Benin republic to dominate the market there, Igbos did not see Yorubas in Togo to dominate economy there, Igbos did not see Yorubas in Ghana to dominate economy there, Igbos did not see Yorubas in Ivory Coast to dominate economy there, eithier did Hausa see Yoruba before dominating Saudi Arabia, Niger and other part of the continent with their agricultural products and trades. Igbos did not see Yorubas in Nairobi Kenya before displacing Indians there to dominate their economy, Igbos did not see Yorubas in China to dominate all the shopping malls at Guangxillu in Guangzhuo China.

Hausa did not see Yoruba before dominating Money Exchange trade and gold businesses. This list may be endless. Igbos and Hausas/Fulani are very hard working Nigerians.

QUESTIONS

In what trade or fields are Yorubas famous?. What are their contribution to Nigeria economically?.

Average yoruba in Lagos state is a street taut or thug. Majority of dirty houses in Lagos are owned, and occupied by Yorubas. Big masions or companies in Lagos were own by Igbos and Hausa.

RESEARCH RESULT by Independent body;

74 percent of investment in Lagos are own by Igbos. 5 percent by Hausa/Fulani, 15 percent by Foreigners(Non-Nigerians), 5 percent by other Nigerians(Non Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba), 1 percent by Yorubas (which include Mike Adenuga).

Igbos and Hausa are not only living in Lagos. Igbos live in the east, in the north. Hausas live in the east, west and north like any igbo. Yorubas are very few in other part of the country. Their laziness never allow them go far. Of course, they can't go to Kano, Port Harcourt or Enugu to do Alaye job.

The problem here is that Igbos migrate more than others and they are been tagged criminals even caught Yoruba criminals most times claim Igbo.

Igbo are followed by Hausa, but Yorubas never migrate like them to have experience and see things for themselves. That's why Hausa and Igbos can make better united Nigeria. Though few Hausas can speak Igbo and Yoruba language, but majority of igbos speaks both Hausa and Yoruba very fluently.

While Yorubas hardly speak both. In some cases, very few yorubas in Military service speaks unclear Hausa language.

The true is the good migration among Nigerians and doing business or trading improves our nationality, unity and languages. It boost our economy too, but Lazy bones don't. They sit tight at home and gossips.

As America, Asia are dominated by Igbos, so as Saudi Arabia is dominated by Hausa, and they are all doing businesses there, and doing them well. They invest every where and in Nigeria.

UK is dominated by lazy Yorubas who do nothing there but claimed schooling while majority are just mere taxi drivers or plate and car washers for Westerner. When they can't feed their families with good job, they go on trafficking cocaine or coming back to Lagos where they will join their brothers on Area boys business collecting money or begging money from Hausa and igbo productive people.

As Hausas are interested in politics, so as Yorubas but the difference is that Hausas still do their businesses and farming; feeding the nation day and night, the Yorubas do nothing but follow politicians up and down and hang in the street of lagos for Agboro job. Their youths are always going around waiting when an Igbo or Hausa will buy Land or build house for them to walk with their lazy bones for what they call "Alaye. Fee". Which is more of begging or silly claim to be owners of the land. Yorubas sell of there lands but leaves inside Lagoon or Canann where water flush them and there families away during raining seasons. They leave most in very smelling dirty places and most times their toilets is inside their cooking pots.

The igbos have left politics since 1967 and now only interested in boosting Nigerians economy with their wealth of experiences in trade, education, technology and science. Since we welcomed Democracy in Nigeria, they have not been politically wise or interested in politics.

If we know the igbos in Education, Trade, business, science and technology, and then know the Hausa/Fulanis in Trade, business, and agriculture, what can we say of the Yorubas? I bet Agboro, Owambe, taxi driver, bus conductors, tax collector and Alaye beggers(Area boys).

Most of my Niger friends who are doing businesses in Lagos complain how these Yoruba tauts disturb them daily. They even sometimes attack some of the Niger boys doing Security works in Lagos. Ahmad from Niger told me how these guys disturbed his other Niger friend selling Suya. They come every evening to eat his Suya forcefully and sometimes beats him if he do complain. He told me that his friend was provoked, then he planned for them one day. One evening these Yoruba boys came with their girl friends, forcefully eating his Suya worth 10,000 naira again, unfortunately, the Suya have been poised with Sleeping drug. So after sitting and eating while shouting, they all slept there, hopelessly till 1am. The four girls where gang Molested severally till 4am by Niger boys who joined their brothers and the five boys were killed. And these Niger boys disappeared from Lagos back to their country.

Later, All Niger and Hausa within that street became target by the friends of these vicitims. Businesses were closed for two weeks in that street because of this and police keep patroling to maintain peace and order.

This is how we are loosing citizens and killing businesses. Yorubas must learn to address tautism, criminality, tribalism, thuggry, and laziness among their people.

NOTE: Not all Yorubas are lazy, down to their bone marrows, some are hard working, sincere and nice, though 90% majority in their huge numbers are very lazy and are touts in all major streets in Nigeria. I have many good Yorubas who are nice people and work in good places.

Blockus:


Move on to what?!

Move on to where?!



For Nigeria to move forward, the Yoruba people must go.

slimmy05: Move from hatred to love and learn to co-habit in peace not forgetting to thread carefully as once beaten is forever shy.

We still need love, we need each other to succeed or progress.

BadBoy25: who has the time to read through all these Long Gibberish ? seeing the Long write up already made me lose interest . you guys need to learn to summarize your post, no one has time to waste .
what is the relationship between Igbo and Yoruba? is it bad or Good ? make it straightforward instead of composing a Novel . Time is Money .

NNMUU: Superiority
Must one tribe be more superior to d other??
this is the reason we are still where we are as a country. Can two men walk together to achieve a common goal if there is no oneness??
The sooner we drop this "tribal superiority" the quicker we progress as a country, as one Nigeria

publicenemy: So,one Nigeria for life...if we sink we sink together.

irvingia: BY AZUKA ONWUKA

It is difficult to say if Igbo and Yoruba are friends or enemies or merely tolerating each other. On the surface, they seem to be friends, because you rarely hear of any clashes or killings between the two in over 100 years. People from the two ethnic groups work together, live together, laugh together, worship together, and play together. Everything seems all right. Nobody wants to be seen as publicly making any comment seen as tribalistic or intolerant.

But if you look deeper, there seems to be something you cannot truly place a finger on. It’s like a volcano waiting for the least provocation to
erupt. It only needs an excerpt from Chinua Achebe’s There Was a Country to be made public, or for Governor Babatunde Fashola of Lagos to
“deport” some Igbo to Onitsha for hell to be let loose. Commentators immediately line up behind their ethnic groups, releasing venom against the
other side. Luckily, such altercations usually end in words and not in violent acts.

But on Nigerian online sites like the punchng.com and others, where commentators can use anonymous names, such fights are a daily affair,
and they always get embarrassingly nasty. At such times, combatants throw caution to the wind and rake up gut-wrenching jibes dripping of hate and bordering on insanity. You wonder if the purveyors of such vitriol would feel at ease afterwards interacting with someone from the ethnic group they have maligned so viciously. Some see it as fun, but many don’t. They see it as a war that must be won at all costs.

Regrettably, Chief Obafemi Awolowo, Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe and Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, whose direct and indirect action and
inaction sowed the seed of hate and distrust between the Igbo and the Yoruba, have died without uprooting that dangerous plant or even
denying it water and nutrients. Therefore, till this day, the Igbo and Yoruba still enjoy shooting at each other with accusations of betrayal,
expansionism, hate, ingratitude, greed, as well as trying to prove that each ethnic group is superior to the other.

And it seems the contest for superiority is at the root of that frosty relationship. The Igbo and Yoruba are unarguably the most competitive in
Nigeria. They are the ethnic groups that easily and forcefully ask for the removal of quota system in all national life. They believe that if things are done on merit, they will excel. The Igbo think that the Yoruba are the major competitors they have in Nigeria, while the Yoruba think that the Igbo are the key competitors they have in Nigeria. This shows in almost all spheres of life. The Yoruba had a head-start in western education
because the British colonialists and missionaries arrived on their land first. The Igbo, who resisted and rejected the British initially, eventually
accepted them and thereby began a sprint to catch up with the Yoruba. And they succeeded.

Whatever the Igbo achieve, the Yoruba have an answer to it, and whatever the Yoruba achieve the Igbo have a response. So, if you have a Wole Soyinka from the South-West winning the first Nobel Prize for Literature in Africa, you have a Chinua Achebe from the South-East holding the record of the most popular and most-selling literary writer in Africa. If you have a Rangers International Football Club of Enugu shaking the
Nigerian football scene in the 1970s and early 80s, you have the Shooting Stars Football Club of Ibadan shining brightly at the same period. If
Rashidi Yekini is noted for scoring Nigeria’s first World Cup goal and being Nigeria’s all-time highest goal scorer, then Nwankwo Kanu boasts of
being Nigeria’s most decorated footballer, while Austin Jay-Jay Okocha flaunts his status as Nigeria’s most glamorous and mesmerising
footballer. If Genevieve Nnaji boasts of being named by Oprah Winfrey in 2009 among the most popular people in the world, Omotola Jalade-
Ekeinde will show off her name in TIME magazine’s most influential people of 2013. If P-Square and Flavour think they rock the music scene, D’Banj and Davido smash the charts.

So, in all areas of life, the Igbo and the Yoruba are competing, and in the process boosting the nation’s economy and bringing glory to the nation.
Yet, some inferiority-complex-afflicted people who feel threatened within each of the ethnic groups look for every excuse to spread hate among the two peoples. My close study of the Igbo and the Yoruba makes me see them as the Germans and the French of Nigeria respectively. Even the Igbo language is like the German language in many respects. In German and Igbo, there are no silent words. Excluding a few words in Germans which are sounded differently from the way the English sound theirs (like “j” which is pronounced like “y,” “w” which is pronounced as “v,” etc), whatever you say in both languages is what you write. For example, the “g” is always pronounced /g/ in Igbo and German and
never as “j.” “Danke” and “obante” are pronounced as written.

But in French and Yoruba, what you say may be different from how you write it. Some letters are either silent or semi-silent. For example, the
Yoruba and the French would pronounce “san” as if it were “saw,” or “son,” but the Igbo and Germans would pronounce it /san/: exactly the
way it is spelt. Also, the “h” is usually silent or glossed over in French and Yoruba: Hospital or Kehinde. The Igbo and the German are bullish and
technology-minded. They have fought and lost wars but staged successful comebacks in a short time. Conversely, the Yoruba and the French are subtle and supercilious, with good administrative skills, regaling in their years of history and culture. A country that has such two success-driven ethnic groups should be at a great advantage. The Yoruba have been great hosts to the Igbo; and the Igbo have reciprocated by contributing immensely to the building of Yoruba land, especially Lagos State, including buying swamps at a high price and turning such places to residential or commercial estates. The sleepiness of Lagos during the Christmas-New Year period, when the Igbo usually travel home en masse, bears testimony to their contribution to making Lagos lively.

Just like the French always wish they could cut the Germans to size, so do the Yoruba to the Igbo, but it will never work. And just as the Germans always try to flaunt their success at the French, so do the Igbo do to the Yoruba, but it is completely pointless. The Yoruba can never be like the Igbo, and the Igbo can never be like the Yoruba. There is nothing the Yoruba can do to suppress the Igbo neither is there anything the Igbo can do to suppress the Yoruba. Both of them can actually succeed without the other, but working closely together will be very beneficial to each of them as well as the nation. The younger generations are forging greater ties, despite the baggage of enmity the older
generations handed over to them. Working together, attending church together and living together seem to have increased the rate of marriage between the two people. Most Sundays when I look at the church bulletin, I see increasing higher number of banns of marriage between Yoruba and Igbo people. These days, it is common to see women whose names are Temilade Amadi or Ngozi Adesanya because of marriage. The ethnic barriers are being broken, even though ethnic jingoists continue to spread hate. Such hate speech and thoughts need to be stopped, for ethnic bloodshed or xenophobia does not burst out in one day.

Since the older generations are passing away without bringing these two great ethnic groups together, the onus is on those born after the Civil
War to consciously take steps to bring the two ethnic groups together for their own good and for the good of the nation. It is high time this Tom and Jerry relationship between the two ethnic groups ended, for the good of both and the nation at large.

http://www.punchng.com/opinion/tom-and-jerry-relationship-between-igbo-and-yoruba/

checkdate: I Dont Understand.

gmyguy: So...i guess we yoruba can be TOM, and Ibos can keep JERRY...Fair enough

gratiaeo:
Your post remind me of the falling of Oyo empire. Ilorin is still under occupation remember

By 2030, Yorubas will become minority in Nigeria
and even in South west as Igbos and Hausas have
taken over all the business opportunities because
the acclaimed native (Yoruba) are NATURALLY
very lazy to their bones".
Its always sad when an entire tribe receives insult
or their character unearthed due to the insanity of
one individual who claimed to be their son, but
might be fathered by unknown hired Niger Soldier
during the Nigerian - Biafra civil war.
When Lagos was the capital of Nigeria Hausa/
Fulani and igbos invested hugely in Lagos city.
After the shift of Lagos as capital of Nigeria to
Abuja, they took over the economy of Lagos from
the British. From onset, Yorubas were only busy
dancing Owanbe in the streets of Lagos and
Ibadan.
Till date, their lazy bones couldn't allow them
invest and assist the boost of Nigeria's economy.
Hausa and Igbos took over South west economy
from British not from yorubas and its never by
force or with arms but by economic skills and
strategies built through progressive business mind.
The Simple fact is that, they took over the economy
because majority of yorubas are very lazy and few
educated ones among them only want a white
collor job where they will be accountants or useless
lawyer for the Hausa and igbo rich men.
Let us specifically give some of these ignorant
Yorubas commons sense analogue and idea about
Igbos economic dominance and Hausa business
and agricultural progresses.
Igbos did not see Yorubas in Benin republic to
dominate the market there, Igbos did not see
Yorubas in Togo to dominate economy there, Igbos
did not see Yorubas in Ghana to dominate
economy there, Igbos did not see Yorubas in Ivory
Coast to dominate economy there, eithier did Hausa
see Yoruba before dominating Saudi Arabia, Niger
and other part of the continent with their
agricultural products and trades. Igbos did not see
Yorubas in Nairobi Kenya before displacing Indians
there to dominate their economy, Igbos did not see
Yorubas in China to dominate all the shopping
malls at Guangxillu in Guangzhuo China.
Hausa did not see Yoruba before dominating
Money Exchange trade and gold businesses. This
list may be endless. Igbos and Hausas/Fulani are
very hard working Nigerians.
QUESTIONS
In what trade or fields are Yorubas famous?. What
are their contribution to Nigeria economically?.
Average yoruba in Lagos state is a street taut or
thug. Majority of dirty houses in Lagos are owned,
and occupied by Yorubas. Big masions or
companies in Lagos were own by Igbos and Hausa.
RESEARCH RESULT by Independent body;
74 percent of investment in Lagos are own by
Igbos. 5 percent by Hausa/Fulani, 15 percent by
Foreigners(Non-Nigerians), 5 percent by other
Nigerians(Non Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba), 1 percent
by Yorubas (which include Mike Adenuga).
Igbos and Hausa are not only living in Lagos.
Igbos live in the east, in the north. Hausas live in
the east, west and north like any igbo. Yorubas are
very few in other part of the country. Their laziness
never allow them go far. Of course, they can't go
to Kano, Port Harcourt or Enugu to do Alaye job.
The problem here is that Igbos migrate more than
others and they are been tagged criminals even
caught Yoruba criminals most times claim Igbo.
Igbo are followed by Hausa, but Yorubas never
migrate like them to have experience and see
things for themselves. That's why Hausa and Igbos
can make better united Nigeria. Though few Hausas
can speak Igbo and Yoruba language, but majority
of igbos speaks both Hausa and Yoruba very
fluently.
While Yorubas hardly speak both. In some cases,
very few yorubas in Military service speaks unclear
Hausa language.
The true is the good migration among Nigerians
and doing business or trading improves our
nationality, unity and languages. It boost our
economy too, but Lazy bones don't. They sit tight
at home and gossips.
As America, Asia are dominated by Igbos, so as
Saudi Arabia is dominated by Hausa, and they are
all doing businesses there, and doing them well.
They invest every where and in Nigeria.
UK is dominated by lazy Yorubas who do nothing
there but claimed schooling while majority are just
mere taxi drivers or plate and car washers for
Westerner. When they can't feed their families with
good job, they go on trafficking cocaine or coming
back to Lagos where they will join their brothers on
Area boys business collecting money or begging
money from Hausa and igbo productive people.
As Hausas are interested in politics, so as Yorubas
but the difference is that Hausas still do their
businesses and farming; feeding the nation day and
night, the Yorubas do nothing but follow politicians
up and down and hang in the street of lagos for
Agboro job. Their youths are always going around
waiting when an Igbo or Hausa will buy Land or
build house for them to walk with their lazy bones
for what they call "Alaye. Fee". Which is more of
begging or silly claim to be owners of the land.
Yorubas sell of there lands but leaves inside
Lagoon or Canann where water flush them and
there families away during raining seasons. They
leave most in very smelling dirty places and most
times their toilets is inside their cooking pots.
The igbos have left politics since 1967 and now
only interested in boosting Nigerians economy with
their wealth of experiences in trade, education,
technology and science. Since we welcomed
Democracy in Nigeria, they have not been
politically wise or interested in politics.
If we know the igbos in Education, Trade, business,
science and technology, and then know the Hausa/
Fulanis in Trade, business, and agriculture, what
can we say of the Yorubas? I bet Agboro, Owambe,
taxi driver, bus conductors, tax collector and Alaye
beggers(Area boys).
Most of my Niger friends who are doing businesses
in Lagos complain how these Yoruba tauts disturb
them daily. They even sometimes attack some of
the Niger boys doing Security works in Lagos.
Ahmad from Niger told me how these guys
disturbed his other Niger friend selling Suya. They
come every evening to eat his Suya forcefully and
sometimes beats him if he do complain. He told
me that his friend was provoked, then he planned
for them one day. One evening these Yoruba boys
came with their girl friends, forcefully eating his
Suya worth 10,000 naira again, unfortunately, the
Suya have been poised with Sleeping drug. So after
sitting and eating while shouting, they all slept
there, hopelessly till 1am. The four girls where
gang Molested severally till 4am by Niger boys
who joined their brothers and the five boys were
killed. And these Niger boys disappeared from
Lagos back to their country.
Later, All Niger and Hausa within that street
became target by the friends of these vicitims.
Businesses were closed for two weeks in that
street because of this and police keep patroling to
maintain peace and order.
This is how we are loosing citizens and killing
businesses. Yorubas must learn to address
tautism, criminality, tribalism, thuggry, and
laziness among their people.
NOTE: Not all Yorubas are lazy, down to their bone
marrows, some are hard working, sincere and nice,
though 90% majority in their huge numbers are
very lazy and are touts in all major streets in
Nigeria. I have many good Yorubas who are nice
people and work in good places.

freshness2020:
Gbagaun since 1759

kingthreat:

Didn't the Roman empire fall. At least we had an empire unlike some the tribe that claim to be Black Jews

ichidodo: Where's my matchete?".

ultrazone: One thing I'm clear about the igbos is that a lot of them do not understand the yorubas. Many of them have preconceived notions that yorubas are untrustworthy. Unfortunately, yorubas care less. We do not have special hatred or make judgment about any tribe. We make decisions based on situation per time. That's why other tribes think we are unreliable. It's a principle of no permanent friend or enemy.