This article addresses an issue and attitudes

Men get Hoor Al’Een in Jannah But what do woman get??!!
Written By Asma Binte Shameem

Most of the time, sisters and even Non muslim females do ask: Men get Hoor Al’Een in Jannah….But what about us women…….what do we get??!!

My dear sisters…..first of all Jannah and Jahannum (and Hoor Al’Een, for that matter) and all what happens in them are matters of the Hereafter. These are a part of the realm of the Unseen of which we have very limited perception. Such matters are beyond our understanding and cannot be known by reasoning and thinking and we have really no knowledge of these things except what the Quraan and the authentic Sunnah tell us.

All we do is to believe in such matters of the Unseen, while remembering that its realities are known only to Allaah.

And actually, one should not really get into the details or indulge in discussions of the matters of the unseen without knowledge, because there is really no benefit in that. Rather if such a question comes up, we should say Allaah knows best.

As Allaah says:

“And follow not (i.e., say not, or do not, or witness not) that of which you have no knowledge. Verily, the hearing, and the sight, and the heart of each of those ones will be questioned (by Allaah)” (Surah al-Isra’ :36)

And, dear sister, from whatever limited knowledge we do have about Jannah that Allaah and His Messenger (sal Allaahu Alayhi wa Sallam) have informed us, there are a few points that we, as believing women, should remember, when questions such as these pop up in our heads.

1. Allaah is Most-Just and the Most-Merciful

The first and foremost thing to remember is that this is Allaah, Rab ul Aalameen we are talking about here.
Subhaan Allaah.

Remember that He is ar-Rahmaan ar-Raheem, the One who is Just and there is no one more just than Him…. And He is the One who is Fair and there is no one who is more fair than Him!!

He will never ever let you down or be unfair to you. If He has promised the men of Jannah Hoor Al’Een, then surely He will give the believing women of Jannah something equally pleasing too. There is no way that He will favor the men over the women, aoodhu billaah. Subhaanahu wa Ta’ala.


“If any do deeds of righteousness, be they male or female, and have faith, they will enter Jannah, and not the least injustice will be done to them.” (Surah an-Nisa:124)

2. Allaah created men and women differently

Another thing to remember is that what pleases women may be different from what pleases men. And everybody knows that. So wouldn’t He, Who created us in the first place know that better than anybody else

“Shall He who has created (all things) not know? He is the Subtle, the Aware.” (Surah Mulk: 14)

So have this firm belief in Him, and have blind trust in Him, Subhaanahu Wa Ta’ala….He, who knows us women and our nature best and He, who will give the women of Jannah whatever will please her the best.

“Therein you shall have (all) that your inner-selves desire” (Surah Fussilat:31-32)

3. Woman are strong temptation for man, than a man for woman

Who is going to disagree with the fact that man are more inclined toward woman, more attracted toward feminine beauty, and have more attraction to lust and hunger for sex – if we use plain words. It is just natural what Allah created, even the scientific facts prove this. The basic body desires are just Natural, on which no one is to be blamed,

The Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said:

“Watch out for this worldly life (safeguard yourself from its temptation) guard yourself from the allurement of women. Verily, the first trial for the people of Israel was caused by women.” (Reported by Muslim)

He also said: “After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women.” [As men are tempted most by woman than any other worldly material which lead them to ultimate fitnah]

“O young men, those among you who can support a wife should marry, for it restrains eyes from casting (evil glances) and protects the private parts from adultery; but those who cannot should keep on fasting for it is a means of controlling sexual desire.” [Agreed upon]


Yet Islam says men to control them selves and ordered them strictly to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, Those who obey the Lord will definitely got to heaven InshaAllah, and may get hoor al-ayen in reward of their patience and steadfastness in this world inshaAllah


Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts). That is purer for them. Verily, Allâh is All-Aware of what they do. [An-Noor 24:30]

“Such is the Paradise which We shall give as an inheritance to those of Our slaves who have been Al-Muttaqoon (the pious)”[Maryam 19:63]

“But as for him who feared standing before his Lord, and restrained himself from impure evil desires and lusts. Verily, Paradise will be his abode” [al-Naaz’i’aat 79:40-41]

tbaba1234: Sino has talked about Polygyny, there is really nothing to add.. It scares me to bits to go into polygyny because the requirement of justice is very difficult and Allah makes it clear, if you can't maintain justice then only one

Very simple. So please tell me that man that can abrogate between 2, three people without bias?

Anyone please? Anyone?


This is the simple fact scholars need to hammer on not the permissibility. Before someone would agree to genuinely go into it knowing the conditions then i guess it must have been because of a great social issue or fitna that only marriage can resolve and I don't see how the wife with this understanding would object to such arrangement if he is doing it in the cause of Allah.

So i guess that should quash the feeling of inequality on that topic been felt by most sisters here.

4. In Jannah the righteous woman will be married to her husband and she will be pleased with that

Allaah will marry the believing women to their husbands of the dunya if they were righteous and make them pleased with that. That IS what they would desire. They wouldn’t want any one else.

And if a woman did not get married during her worldly life, or if her husband was not from the people of Jannah, then Allaah will marry her to one of the believing men in Jannah. The women will live with their husbands and children and families in their own realms in Paradise, and they will be so content with that.


“Gardens of perpetual bliss: they shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring.” (Surah ar-Ra`d: 23)

“Enter the Garden, you and your wives, you will be made glad. There will be brought round for them trays of gold and goblets, and therein is all that the souls desire and eyes find sweet and you will stay there forever. This is the garden, which you are made to inherit because of what you used to do. Therein for you is fruit in plenty whence to eat.” (Az-Zukhruf 43: 70-73)

Ibn Katheer said: “ they (the women of Jannah) lower their gaze and avoid looking at men other than their husbands, so they do not think that there is anything in Paradise that is more handsome than their husbands. This was stated by Ibn ‘Abbaas, Qataadah, ‘Ata’ al-Khuraasaani and Ibn Zayd. And it was narrated that one of them will say to her husband: By Allaah I do not think that there is anything in Paradise finer than you, or that there is anything in Paradise dearer to me than you; praise be to Allaah Who has made you for me and made me for you.” (Tafseer al-Qur’aan al-‘Azeem).

5. In Jannah there will be no jealousy

Remember,my sister, that life in Jannah will be nothing like life here in this world. It is a different world that has nothing in common with this world except names only; the realities of things are completely different
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Pleasures and feelings that we experience here in this life will be experienced in a different and much better and purer way. We will eat and drink but there will be no filth or dirt. Our bodies will not excrete wastes nor will we grow old. And not only our physical bodies, but our psychology and nature will be different also.

“And We shall remove from their chest any (mutual) hatred or sense of injury….” (Surah al-A’raaf:43)

The Prophet (sal Allaahu Alayhi wa Sallam) said:

“The first group to enter Paradise will look like the moon when it is full. They will not spit or blow their noses or defecate therein. Their vessels and combs will be of gold and silver, their incense burners will be of aloeswood and their sweat will be musk. Each of them will have two wives, the marrow of whose calves will be visible from beneath the flesh because of their beauty. There will be no dissent or enmity among them and their hearts will be as one, and they will glorify Allaah morning and evening.” (al-Bukhaari, Muslim)

He also said: “they will not envy one another.” (Bukhaari)

So even if the men will have Hoor Al’Een, we will not be jealous. Yes, it seems hard at this time, but it is just as hard to imagine eating and drinking without any excretion, although it is surely true. So rest assured…there will be love and peace and no jealousy.

Besides, think about it….Isn’t the One capable of making you the way you are in this world with all your jealousy and the other ‘womanly’ feelings, capable of making you without jealousy in the Hereafter??!! Of course He is!

6. Men have to strive hard in deen for Jannah, while For woman Allah made so many easy rewards:

What else u need sister when Allah subhana wa’tala made jannah easier for you

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The woman who dies in pregnancy or childbirth is a martyr.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3111; classed as saheeh by al-Nawawi in Sharh Muslim, 13/62. And he said: the one who dies in childbirth, i.e., she dies with something (the child) inside, not separated from her.

He also said, Woman giving Birth to many child will be rewarded more.

Hadith no: 595 Narrated / Authority Of: Aisha (the mother of the faithful believers) I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We consider Jihad as the best deed.” The Prophet said, “The best Jihad (for women) is Hajj Mabrur.”Rejoice, O sister, the believing women will be better than the Hoor Al’Een.


Read the quote below, my sister, and rejoice!

“The situation of the believing woman in Jannah will be better than the situation of the hoor al-‘iyn; she will be higher in status and more beautiful. Several ahaadeeth and reports have been narrated concerning that, but none of them can be proven to be sound. But, if a righteous woman from among the people of this world enters Paradise, then she will do so as a reward for her righteous deeds and as a honor from Allaah to her for her religious commitment and righteousness. As for the hoori who is one of the delights of Paradise, she has only been created in Paradise for the sake of someone else, and has been made the reward for the believing man for his righteous deeds. There is a great difference between one who enters Paradise as a reward for her righteous deeds and the one who was created as a reward for one who did righteous deeds. The former is a queen and a princess, and the latter, no matter how beautiful she is, is undoubtedly lower in status than a queen, and she is subject to the command of her believing master for whom Allaah created her as a reward.”



Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said regarding this matter:
“It seems to me that the women of this world will be better than the hoor al-‘iyn, even in outward appearance, and Allaah knows best.” (Fataawa Noor ‘ala al-Darb).

Logically speaking……Wouldn’t you rather be beautiful??

When we look at ourselves and our nature, we realize Allaah’s infinite Wisdom and Justice in the way He has created us. It is in our very nature that most of us women are generally pleased with and devoted to only one man.

Ask yourself this or any woman out there you know, this question and you would know what I mean. Ask them….

“What would you rather be……be extremely beautiful with one loving husband or be ordinary looking with several husbands??!!

I am sure there will not be very many women out there who would pick the second choice…!!!

We have no right to question Allaah

Actually, if you think about it, we have no right to question Allaah in whatever He does, how He does it and when He does it. We should not question Allaah’s wisdom in making us in the nature we are now or in re-creating us in the nature we will have in the future. We know that He is generous and merciful, and we have to trust Him.
He is All-Wise, All-Knowing. He is the Just and He knows Best.

AND, for arguments sake, EVEN IF, in His Infinite Wisdom, Allaah chooses to give men Hoor Al’Een and the women absolutely nothing, so be it. Know firmly, in your heart and believe unshakably in your mind, that, this is what was better for you. Know that He will NEVER be unfair to you and He will give you ONLY and ONLY if He pleases. And He will withhold from you, ONLY and ONLY if you deserve it.

Where is our trust in the Almighty??

The real focus

Instead of worrying about what Allaah has promised men and competing with them, we should focus on how to serve Him and worship Him better. We should try to improve our relationship with Him so that we may hope for His generous reward and forgiveness, so that out of His Mercy, He may enter us in Jannah.

Think about it, sister, if we learn all the details of what life in Jannah will be like and what rewards women will get, but fail to worship and serve Him the way He and His Messenger have taught us to…. then our knowledge is pretty useless, isn’t it…?

If you are among those women who leave this world having won the pleasure of Allaah, then good news to you, my sister. When you enter Jannah you will have delights and pleasures such as no eye has seen, no ear has heard and no mind has ever imagined. You will have all that you wish for in the best of ways. You will be more beautiful than you can ever imagine, with a status higher than you can ever conceive and happier than you have ever been, content with your husband and family. Everything that you will ask for will be granted, and everything that you long for, you will get. You will never find anything to upset or disturb you, or make you jealous for you will be in the care of the Most Generous, Most Merciful.
What more could you ask for….?

http://islamgreatreligion./2011/07/05/men-get-hoor-aleen-in-jannah-but-what-do-we-get/

People, be careful with your words though. Some words may even constitute Kufr.

How convenient. I've realized that it's actually the details that made it hard to sustain faith...

EnlightenedSoul: How convenient. I've realized that it's actually the details that made it hard to sustain faith...

Faith is actually easy to have. The first step is to have an intellectual humility. The Quran guarantees that if you come to it with the right attitude, you will find no doubt.

Once you come to the realization that this book is beyond the productive capacity of a man and there are many ways of exploring this. Then, an intellectual basis is there.

The next part is the spiritual, this comes from prayer and other spiritual activities.

Intellectual knowledge without the spiritual is weak faith.

I can probably talk at length about why the Quran is so awesome but if I do not take care of my spiritual life, it can drop rather easily.

Therefore, It can fluctuate. Some people fluctuations are worse than others.

tbaba1234: Sino has talked about Polygyny, there is really nothing to add.. It scares me to bits to go into polygyny because the requirement of justice is very difficult and Allah makes it clear, if you can't maintain justice then only one

tbaba, my big brother (sort of adopted) quoted this verse as defense when he wanted a 2nd wife. At least to all of us, he had it all in his marriage to his 1st wife. Beautiful woman, not fat, not troublesome, with a career that was not disturbing her responsibilities, no waiting to conceive, had both males and females, infact, to me, no excuse at all. He said if i read the verse of marriage (Qur'an 4 verse 3), Allah said '.........marry among the women, 2.....', so it is waajib for him to marry at least 2.

When i reminded him of the obligation of maintaining justice, he excused himself with verse 129: '....although it is your ardent desire to maintain justice, you may not be able to do so.....' so he says he is excused.

What say you?

Anyways, i know the problem is not with Allah's laws or with Islam. Allah is just and He has perfected Islam for us. The problem is with some of our men with hypocrisy. They see the differences between men and women as a confirmation of their belief that 'women are 2nd class citizens'. How many men practise polygamy the right way? All we see are men who impose pregnant concubines on their 1st wives to cloth and feed (true story o) in addition to all his kids with both women. Come to South western Nigeria. I'm tired, really.

Deols is it fair for a woman to carry a child for 9 months while the man sits around?

Fulaman198:

I don't believe in marriage to minors at all and think it's quite the disgusting act.

18 years old and above should be the age of consent. I don't even want to go into detail about how disgusting I find the act.

Lol so it you mean the spannish, vaticanians?, British, a host of western country must be very disgusting set of people?

ameenahz:

tbaba, my big brother (sort of adopted) quoted this verse as defense when he wanted a 2nd wife. At least to all of us, he had it all in his marriage to his 1st wife. Beautiful woman, not fat, not troublesome, with a career that was not disturbing her responsibilities, no waiting to conceive, had both males and females, infact, to me, no excuse at all. He said if i read the verse of marriage (Qur'an 4 verse 3), Allah said '.........marry among the women, 2.....', so it is waajib for him to marry at least 2.

When i reminded him of the obligation of maintaining justice, he excused himself with verse 129: '....although it is your ardent desire to maintain justice, you may not be able to do so.....' so he says he is excused.

Your brot

ameenahz:

tbaba, my big brother (sort of adopted) quoted this verse as defense when he wanted a 2nd wife. At least to all of us, he had it all in his marriage to his 1st wife. Beautiful woman, not fat, not troublesome, with a career that was not disturbing her responsibilities, no waiting to conceive, had both males and females, infact, to me, no excuse at all. He said if i read the verse of marriage (Qur'an 4 verse 3), Allah said '.........marry among the women, 2.....', so it is waajib for him to marry at least 2.

When i reminded him of the obligation of maintaining justice, he excused himself with verse 129: '....although it is your ardent desire to maintain justice, you may not be able to do so.....' so he says he is excused.

waajib ko, waajib ni... He should just say he wants to marry.

I have seen conversations where men say they must have at least 3. They have no money to even take care of one properly.

The problem is a lack of taqwa and making a mockery of Allah's permissions.

vedaxcool: Deols is it fair for a woman to carry a child for 9 months while the man sits around?

Not saying it is injustice to carry pikin for belle o. How is that injustice to men? You dont get to go through the stress now. We are talking about our social problems here. Pregnancy is something Allah has modified our bodies for as women.

ameenahz:

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You spoke about inheritance.

You do know that islamically, a man is supposed to bear all expenses in a home and a woman's money is for her to do as she pleases.

Is it fair for both to be equal, if one is given more responsibility?

It is about fairness not equality.

tbaba1234:

You spoke about inheritance.

You do know that islamically, a man is supposed to bear all expenses in a home and a woman's money is for her to do as she pleases.

Is it fair for both to be equal, if one is given more responsibility?

It is about fairness not equality.

i understand all that. But in our setting, does it work that way? Even if you do not earn as much as your husband as a woman, you do not have a choice than to put it all into the home. I even know husbands who call their wives and tell them 'now that you have been promoted, your responsibilities have increased. I'll pay fees while you buy food.....'. I even know husbands (muslims o) who force their wives to take loans, interest free or no all in the name of 'i am the man'. I'm not faulting Allah's laws. Who am i? I'm only saying the society has ended up using it against us.

ameenahz:

i understand all that. But in our setting, does it work that way? Even if you do not earn as much as your husband as a woman, you do not have a choice than to put it all into the home. I even know husbands who call their wives and tell them 'now that you have been promoted, your responsibilities have increased. I'll pay fees while you buy food.....'. I even know husbands (muslims o) who force their wives to take loans, interest free or no all in the name of 'i am the man'. I'm not faulting Allah's laws. Who am i? I'm only saying the society has ended up using it against us.

We are not living by Islam. If we are then, it will not even be an issue. We implement one part and forget the other. And then complain.

All I can say is that we should refrain from asking too many questions. Not saying that we should not ask disturbing quetions but we should be ready to accept answers and explanations that are based on verifiable evidence.

ameenahz:

i understand all that. But in our setting, does it work that way? Even if you do not earn as much as your husband as a woman, you do not have a choice than to put it all into the home. I even know husbands who call their wives and tell them 'now that you have been promoted, your responsibilities have increased. I'll pay fees while you buy food.....'. I even know husbands (muslims o) who force their wives to take loans, interest free or no all in the name of 'i am the man'. I'm not faulting Allah's laws. Who am i? I'm only saying the society has ended up using it against us.

thats wrong and the fault of the men not the law.

at the same time i have seen families where if the women spends 1000naira they would ask for refund from the men and they would pay back. and the men borrowed from their wives when they did not have.

''I am the man'' is no excuse women are to be submissive because men are to provide. He is the head because of the responsibility Allah (SWT) has given him not just because of his anatomy.

we are muslims but do we live islam.

ameenahz:

Not saying it is injustice to carry pikin for belle o. How is that injustice to men? You dont get to go through the stress now. We are talking about our social problems here. Pregnancy is something Allah has modified our bodies for as women.

But isn't it injustice to the women? That is the point I am making, if u can rationalise women were MADE to carry babies, then doesn't it follow, that Polygamy was permitted because both men and women were MADE to suit whatever role they are suppose to play in the in such marriage, when were made to be head of family? My point is we shouldn't divorce ourselves from the reality of both sexes!

vedaxcool:

Lol so it you mean the spannish, vaticanians?, British, a host of western country must be very disgusting set of people?

Anyone who partakes in it is disgusting

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Which brings to us point, nobody obviously gives a damn, to use the words of jona, of whatever disgust u, society organise themselves based on their own experiences, rules and laws. Setting an arbitrary age in the comfort of u room doesn't really work. For your education u can read more about it here

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe

onegig: Ok i understand but i came to that conclusion seeing you recurring comments and the use of some certain personalities as your focal point. The major practical reality may be different from what the manual maybe preaching. That's why we need to go back to the basis and look at what the Holy book says. Yerima and his co travelers are not representative of what islam says. Infact in an ideal islamic environment he should be behind bars by now for defiling a minor. There's no justification for what they say. A 14 year old oyinbo girl would have grown and you would think she's an adult already that does not mean i can go to my village and pick a 14 year old and say she's an adult also. Body anatomy, food composition, environment, race and many things influence how mature a woman is.

There can never be any justification for their behaviors.

But there is nothing in Islam that points to a geographical variation.

What I am saying is, someone who wants to follow the prophet as the best of examples will do everything that he did, irrespective of the consequences.

ameenahz:

From Marriage to inheritance, nothing seems to favour women. I once asked my teacher about houris. After ages of merry-go-round-ing, he concluded by saying i should be satisfied to be the queen of whatever number of women my husband chooses in Jannah. I was like seriously? Let's just leave that side.

I may sound like a defeated woman, but really, what do we do anyway? Let's just pray for a settled spirit, a pure heart and a happy home and the ultimate reward (whether we get 'houris' or not, at least we get the peace and pleasure we deserve after the struggles of this dunya). Whenever all these thoughts creep up, i do some nawafil and i say this prayer:

Ya muqolibal qulub, thabit qalbi alaa deenik (oh Changer of hearts, steady my heart in your religion).

Rabbana aatina fi duniya hasana, wa fil akhirati hasana wa kina adhaaba naar(My lord, grant me the good things of this world and the good things of the hereafter and save me from the punishment of hell)

It really doesnt help for one's thought to be going this way. Please put your hope and trust in Allah. He is The Just.

I will rember this prayer, in sha Allah.

I was going to bring up the issue of inheritance. Some parts of it bother me.

onegig: How did you come about a man who's strictly monogamous? No one knows tomorrow. What happens if he decides to marry a second wife later even after signing the pre nup? Won't it eventually lead to divorce?

People have free will to do whatever they like. You can't sign an agreement and expect a man to remain with you forever as long as divorce is halal to him. Which brings us back to square one. She ends up being divorced.


Divorce is not something that is that easy even in the most ideal situations. It leaves most times an irredeemable scar on both partners. You have the extra baggages that comes with it.

When i said ruined, i didn't mean they can't function again or lead happy lives but seriously it's more like starting your live afresh but this time with big constraints from the past especially when kids are involved. Also how are we sure she would get married to another man?

From experience, most women (around 80 per cent) who are divorced end up being bitter about men and never remarry which is something Islam frowns at. So how do we sort out this issue?


It is simple. It's the male that need some straightening to do. It all boils down to where the rule came from. A careful and critical look at what that verse on polygamy says would show clearly that the general interpretation by most people is very very wrong. There's also a HUGE CLAUSE on it which says "if you can be just". No sane man would go into polygamy because of his lustful desires if he has the deeper understanding of what that clause means.

But go and listen to many alfas. They would tell you, if you marry an orobo and you feel like you want a lepa later you can always just decide to do it which is clearly in antagonism with what the verse means. I personally see no justification for a man to say he wants to marry another wife based on "taste".

Edited.

Interestingly, there is no punishment slated for the man who goes against this contract.

vedaxcool: Deols is it fair for a woman to carry a child for 9 months while the man sits around?

Very funny question.

I cant give replies to all the posts but i have to say these.

*I don't think that the mesaage of Islam was meant to be vague, and not understandable. It is wrong to want to push things under the carpet uaing fear as a mechamism or by trying to claim that we dont have the capacity for understanding them. I think there is a reason the Quran explains jannah to us- so we would work for it. You cant tell me that its explanation is not good enough anymore and that the human nature isnt good enough to give an understanding.


I also noticed that many of the replies did not look at my concerns. Giving vague and indirect answers are not helpful in any way.

tbaba1234 said something about men who dont have enough resources but go into polygyny. The thing is, there is no law that says they MUST have enough resources. They dont even need to LOVE their wives/love them equally for that matter. One could be favoured and the others were expected to just accept.

There is a hadith I know of where a man was said to av gone to the prophet, complaining that he was impoverished. The prophet told him to get married. He went back after a while and the prophet told him to get married again. This is the hadith poverty-stricken people quote for engaging in polygyny.

Still, the fact that some other people got married to children does not make it right. I believe that, someone providing us with the best of examples would give us something that is the best. I dont know if this point is misunderstood or if people are deliberately ignoring it. And if the prophet's message or example was only for the sunny regions, then u are against the belief that Islam is not a religion of arabs.

Please I did not plan to argue these points, I was in fact hoping that you would tell me things that would make me feel better about my faith. Please, you should not give me responses that insult my intelligence and thereby make my situation worse. Thanks.

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@sissie. This is d verse for no.3

4. Women are deficient in Intelligence. I could have agreed with this if I I had not met very dumb men.

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) on 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone MORE DEFICIENT IN INTELLIGENCE and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301)

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

deols:

But there is nothing in Islam that points to a geographical variation.

What I am saying is, someone who wants to follow the prophet as the best of examples will do everything that he did, irrespective of the consequences.

The Prophet(SAW) did go to the open fields to empty their bowels back then. No toilet facilities existed that was their toilets.


Wouldn't it be nice i also follow the Prophet's ways and go to Oshodi under bridge to do "it" because the Prophet did same during their time. There's no geographical difference in this also.

The Prophet rode an Horse to Mecca for Hajj during his time. Why aren't Muslims climbing Horses to Hajj cause that's exactly what the Prophet did?


They wrote with sticks on scrolls back then, you should also ditch writing verses or reading them from you tablet because he never used that.


Deols.. When they said Islam was for yesterday, today and tomorrow. It meant the basic religious laws plus common sense. Also there's no emphasis on the medium or the asthetics. The act here is the main issue not the medium as long as the medium used is "halal".

Can you see the comparative differences? You can't stick to the past and their ways. Girls aged 9 as at then must have attained puberty, matured and be able to give birth without complications. We can't say same for girls of nowadays. Anyone who indulges in such at this age is a pedophile and should be behind bars. No two ways. I can't say what would happen in the next 1000 years. Maybe the body anatomy of humans might have changed to warrant such but at present there's simply no justification and anyone who indulges in such is not following the path of the Prophet but his own perverted desires.

There are so many logical fallacies in the post above, it is unbelievable and even arrogant.

Deols, The same sources that describe Jannah, also tell us that it is beyond what we can imagine.

Allah tells us about himself but still tells us he is unimaginable.

The simple response to all that bakwas:

it is He who has sent this Scripture down to you [Prophet]. Some of its verses are definite in meaning––these are the cornerstonec of the Scripture––and others are ambiguous. The perverse at heart eagerly pursue the ambiguities in their attempt to make trouble and to pin down a specific meaning of their own: only God knows the true meaning. Those firmly grounded in knowledge say, ‘We believe in it: it is all from our Lord’––only those with real perception will take heed


To the second point, men are supposed to take care of the home expenses, is that not an islamic law??

Do extra wives not mean more expenses??

It means to take wives, you must have the ability to take care of them.

People live according to their means.