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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by KiKatanga: 2:40pm On Aug 01, 2014
dhammyg:
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOREIGN AIDS.AFRICA HAS BIGGER PROBLEMS TO FACE THAN WASTING TIME ON GAYS WHO DO NOT HARM THE SOCIETY

I fear you may be wasting your time, Africa will rot from the inside trying to fight people that the Europeans taught them to hate. There have been Gay Africans throughout history which is why all of the native languages have words for them.

Instead of fighting for better education, for better policing, for better infrastructure, they are fighting 5% of people who like to do something different when they close the door.

Frankly, if Africa cannot learn to focus on what matters, there is no hope. If God hates gays, let him and St Peter deal with them. God hates thieves even more, yet Nigeria is one of the most corrupt places on Earth.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 2:40pm On Aug 01, 2014
Bashirfuntua: Nigeria will also reverse the law. Africa when i we having our full independent, from these satanisms in the west
Independence shouldn't mean oppression to your fellow country man who has equal rights as you, to exist freely.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by KiKatanga: 2:42pm On Aug 01, 2014
Bashirfuntua: Nigeria will also reverse the law. Africa when i we having our full independent, from these satanisms in the west

Sometime after you learn to write.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by jkendy(m): 2:59pm On Aug 01, 2014
Cowards!!!
If no b Nigeria, e no fit b like Nigeria !!!
Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by jkendy(m): 3:00pm On Aug 01, 2014
Kowards!!!
If no b Nigeria, e no fit b like Nigeria !!!
Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 3:00pm On Aug 01, 2014
KiKatanga:
I fear you may be wasting your time, Africa will rot from the inside trying to fight people that the Europeans taught them to hate. There have been Gay Africans throughout history which is why all of the native languages have words for them.

Instead of fighting for better education, for better policing, for better infrastructure, they are fighting 5% of people who like to do something different when they close the door.

Frankly, if Africa cannot learn to focus on what matters, there is no hope. If God hates gays, let him and St Peter deal with them. God hates thieves even more, yet Nigeria is one of the most corrupt places on Earth.

Can you please provide proofs for bold?

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by shadowwalker101: 3:00pm On Aug 01, 2014
it must be because of foreign aid
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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Arsenate(m): 3:00pm On Aug 01, 2014
dhammyg:
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOREIGN AIDS.AFRICA HAS BIGGER PROBLEMS TO FACE THAN WASTING TIME ON GAYS WHO DO NOT HARM THE SOCIETY
yeah. sound logic. Africa already has too many problems. we might as well just add more to it. genius.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by sailormoon: 3:00pm On Aug 01, 2014
Symphony007: It gives me great joy that there are still countries in africa with a judiciary that does it job without sentiments or personal feelings. No country on earth can have a constitution which protects fundamental human rights then go ahead to criminalize freedom of expression. It is ridiculous and no judiciary will stand for that. Nigeria should take note. Our supreme court must strike down ours if it gets to their desk. If our governments wants it's anti gay law to stand, then it should do a constitutional amendment were fundamental human rights is removed then a law like that can stand. But you can't claim to protect human rights and put people in jail for living their lives because you don't like how they do it. It's a mockery of constitutional democracy. You can't eat your cake and have it.
Beautifully put

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 3:01pm On Aug 01, 2014
Oh! Lol I was late. Props OP.

Uganda's Constitutional Court struck down the country's Anti-Homosexuality Act on Friday, giving new hope to the country's embattled LGBT people and human rights activists.

Kasha Jacqueline, one of the activists who brought the petition, tweeted her delight at the news:

@KashaJacqueline
FINAL JUDGEMENT: I am no longer http://t. co/ ekOD5G8eQO we have made history for generations to come.speak OUT now. #AHA scraped.EXCRUCIATING.
6:14 AM - 01 Aug 14

In the five months since Uganda adopted the law, which imposes a sentence of up to life in prison for homosexuality and criminalizes advocating LGBT rights, LGBT Ugandans have lived under the constant threat of arrest or mob violence. The court's decision paves the way for organizations to again begin operating openly and to allow LGBT people to resume normal lives. But that change will come slowly — homosexuality remains a crime in Uganda under a provision of the penal code on the books before the Anti-Homosexuality Act was passed last December, and there is a chance of a surge in anti-LGBT violence in reaction to today's ruling.

The decision could also significantly ease international pressure on President Yoweri Museveni, who has been under pressure from the United States, the World Bank, and other important donors to get rid of the law or at least substantially weaken it through enforcement.

Ugandan journalist Andrew Mwenda tweeted from the packed court room:

@AndrewMwenda
The retrogressive anti homosexuality act of Uganda has been struck down by the constitutional court - it's now dead as a door nail.
6:16 AM - 01 Aug 14

The courtroom became something of a circus during the three hour recess the judges called before issuing the ruling, according to people in the room. Anti-LGBT activist Pastor Martin Ssempa prayed loudly, and got into arguments with multiple petitioners. Security eventually approached Ssempa to request he sit down.

The court struck down the law on procedural grounds, saying it was invalid because there was no quorum in Parliament when the legislation was passed on December 20. (A quorum is the requirement that at least one third of members are present when a vote is held.) The court was ruling on a petition brought by a group of 10 human rights activists, legal scholars, and opposition politicians. The court did not rule on the underlying question of whether anti-LGBT laws violate basic human rights, and so the pre-existing sodomy code, which was imposed when Uganda was a British colony, remains in place. Two men are currently awaiting trial under this provision.

Since the vote last year, there has a 20-fold increase in incidents of anti-LGBT harassment, including blackmail, eviction, and torture, according to a study by Sexual Minorities Uganda. The country's largest human rights organization, the Refugee Law Project, has also had many of its activities shut down by the government, which alleges it was involved in "promoting homosexuality."

With the court's nullification of the law, "we become legal again," said Sexual Minorities Uganda Director Frank Mugisha, one of the petitioners. But this ruling won't make life better for LGBT people right away, he said. "Society won't give in," though there is now "an open space and a [chance for] dialogue with the government" now that is gone.

Mugisha and other LGBT activists said before the ruling they were braced for a surge in violence. The law's supporters, like Ssempa and the leadership of the Inter-Religious Council of Uganda, had been whipping up their supporters during the two days of hearings before the ruling, and LGBT activists expected a backlash if they won.

"Many people are going to retaliate and attack community members," said Kasha Jacqueline of the organization Freedom and Roam Uganda, another of the petitioners. "People are going to retaliate — not just the members of parliament and anti-gay groups and religious leaders, but in the community as well."

By dismissing the law on procedural grounds, the Constitutional Court sidestepped ruling on the question of whether LGBT rights are protected by fundamental rights protected by the Ugandan constitution. It also does nothing to stop parliament from passing the law again with a quorum present.


J Lester Feder @jlfeder
View inside the Ug Constitutional Court via @qataharraymond
5:23 AM - 01 Aug 14

Human rights activists say they expect politicians like the bill's sponsor, MP David Bahati, to try to pass it again, but they think the chances he'll succeed are slim. Re-passing the law would require starting the legislative process from the beginning, including committee hearings and receiving certification of its financial impact from the finance ministry. If the government of President Yoweri Museveni does not want the bill to pass again, the finance ministry could silently kill the bill simply by withholding certification.

"Someone will try," said Nicholas Opiyo, one of the attorneys who argued against the law before the Constitutional Court. "I don't think it will come back immediately. It will take some time. But the dynamics here change quite rapidly and it might not come back at all."

The speed with which the court moved to reach a ruling had many speculating that it was acting on orders from Museveni to dispose of the legislation. The court wasn't scheduled to take up the challenge to the law until September, but then abruptly announced last week that it would begin hearings this Wednesday. It began hearing arguments despite the objections of the representative of the attorney general, Patricia Mutesi, who may still appeal the order to proceed to the Supreme Court. But if political pressure had been put on the court to strike down the law, the same pressure could likely be used to get the attorney general's office to quietly drop its efforts to uphold the law.


Martin Ssempa @martinssempa
Court Update: Full house. Waiting 4 ruling. With Sheikh Mbabali and Dr Sserwadda. @RugyendoQuotes @namangels @nbstvug
5:31 AM - 01 Aug 14

This is the third important ruling from the Ugandan judiciary in support of LGBT rights, and it could reverberate throughout the region, where several other countries are considering similar laws. It shows that courts are willing to support LGBT rights even in east African countries where politicians have concluded being anti-LGBT is good politics. It also comes shortly after a Kenyan court ordered government officials to allow a trans rights group to officially register their organization. Other LGBT rights cases are pending in Kenya, as well as in Malawi and Botswana.

The law's defeat could quickly unlock important funding streams for the Ugandan government, which relies heavily on foreign aid. The health ministry had made a concession to the World Bank in June in an attempt to get access to a $90 million health care loan that had been on hold since Museveni signed the Anti-Homosexuality Act in February, releasing guidelines that attempted to ensure LGBT patients would not be endangered by access to health services.

It is not immediately clear how Friday's ruling will affect U.S. sanctions announced in June, which include denying entry to Ugandan officials who have been involved in human rights abuses. Some human rights advocates were already critical that the U.S. immediately undermined that decision by inviting Museveni to participate in an African Leaders Summit being hosted by the Obama administration in DC next week.

LGBT activists now turn their work to the much harder job of rolling back the colonial-era sodomy law and trying to undue the anti-LGBT sentiment stirred up over the four years that the bill has been under consideration. That will not fade quickly.

But, said Kasha Jacqueline, "It's a big step forward if the law is scrapped, because many people are taking the law into their own hands."

"If the law is gone, it's easier, then the police are obliged to protect," said Frank Mugisha. But, he said, "the struggle is still long."

Listen to Justice Steven Kavuma give the order striking down the Anti-Homosexuality Act
https://m.soundcloud.com/lester-feder/ugandan-constitutional-court-justice-steven-kavuma-strikes-down-anti-homosexuality-act

Mujuni Raymond contributed to this report from Kampala.

Ugandan Anti-Homosexuality Act Struck Down By Constitutional Court
Posted on Aug. 1, 2014, at 6:14 a.m.
J. Lester Feder
http://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/ugandan-anti-homosexuality-act-struck-down-by-constitutional

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by seankafor(m): 3:03pm On Aug 01, 2014
Rufex07: polygamy should also be allowed in the western world since it also affects human right violation. Hypocrites!
and wat makes u tink dat d western world (citizens) wants polygamy..?
Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 3:03pm On Aug 01, 2014
SirShymex:

Can you please provide proofs for bold?

The good stuff starts on page 5 through to page 10/11
https://www.nairaland.com/1816160/malawi-officially-suspends-anti-homosexuality-laws/5

Knock yourself out.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by kevinhacker(m): 3:03pm On Aug 01, 2014
dhammyg: NICE.WHEN WILL NIGERIANS\AFRICANS LEARN THAT WHAT TWO ADULTS CHOOSE TO DO IN THEIR BEDROOM IS NONE OF THEIR BIZ.
WE AS AS AFRICANS HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS FACING US E.G CORRUPTION.IF WE COULD PERSECUTE CORRUPT POLITICIANS THE SAME WAY WE PERSECUTE GAYS AFRICA WILL BE A BETTER PLACEwink

AND BY THE WAY DO U THINK IMPRISONING GAYS WILL MAKE THEM CHANGEOR DO U THINK LYNCHING THEM WILL MAKE THEM CHANGE

AND TO THOSE SAYING BEING GAY IS UNAFRICAN AND USING BIBLE\QURAN TO JUSTIFY THE CLAIM,PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT CHRISTAINITY AND ISLAM IS ALSO UNAFRICAN tongue
YOU ARE A FOOL!! ASK ME Y

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by VIPERVENOM(m): 3:04pm On Aug 01, 2014
They desperately need foreign aid.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Arsenate(m): 3:05pm On Aug 01, 2014
say no to homosexuality. it's evil.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by KiKatanga: 3:05pm On Aug 01, 2014
SirShymex:

Can you please provide proofs for bold?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_homosexuality#Africa

Hope that helps.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by kobonaire(m): 3:05pm On Aug 01, 2014
blooddykiller: But i guess the yankess you people praises baned polygamy
Keep living in inferiority complex
You may have point that polygamy is illegal in Yankee area but funny enough they do not prosecute if married men(or women) have multiple partners outside their marital home.
Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 3:06pm On Aug 01, 2014
seankafor: and wat makes u tink dat d western world (citizens) wants polygamy..?

This the only thing dumb homophobes have to say. Polygamy polygamy polygamy blah blah blah.

Polygamy is legal in some parts of the US. But what the hell does it have to do with criminalizing homosexuality and violating human rights? Do they know what human rights are?

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by jkendy(m): 3:06pm On Aug 01, 2014
Symphony007: there are limits. If you commit murder, you loose those rights. If you commit atrocities that affect the state or the well being of other citizens you loose those rights. Let the government prove how a consexual relationship among two adults of sound mind is a threat to the state or other citizens.
Throwing morality to the dogs all in the name of "fundamental human rights"!!!

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 3:07pm On Aug 01, 2014
As long as African countries continue to succumb to outside pressure, the continent will never move beyond the medieval ages in terms of growth and overall development.

Yes, two consenting adults shouldn't be told what to do. However, there has to be control on whatever type of lifestyle that's acceptable in public. And what should be promoted. Especially if that particular lifestyle comes with a lot of baggage the continent isn't ready for yet.

People are already scared of even going to Africa because of HIV/AIDS, now idi.otic simpletons want to promote a lifestyle that's synonymous with that lifestyle. Phaggots need to take a chill pill, it's not always about them.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by KiKatanga: 3:07pm On Aug 01, 2014
Arsenate: say no to homosexuality. it's evil.

Say yes to homosexuality, if you want to. I don't want to, so why should it bother me?

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Arsenate(m): 3:07pm On Aug 01, 2014
seankafor: and wat makes u tink dat d western world (citizens) wants polygamy..?
and what makes the west thinks Africa wants homosexuality? we say we don't want it, why can't they just respect our decision just the we respected their views on polygamy. lipsrsealed
seankafor: and wat makes u tink dat d western world (citizens) wants polygamy..?
and what makes the west thinks Africa wants homosexuality? we say we don't want it, why can't they just respect our decision just the we respected their views on polygamy.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Cheeun(f): 3:08pm On Aug 01, 2014
Is the beginning of stupidity undecided
blooddykiller: The fear of yankees

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Whizzdom(m): 3:08pm On Aug 01, 2014
Those people are very stupid to do so, why could dey have done such a tin


Wen dem no say dah God hates dis evil acts ...... how can a man and man do it together.


There president should be behead or hanged

Stupid President and Stupid Officials

All him advicers suppose contact adEBOLA

#madpeople

Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 3:08pm On Aug 01, 2014
KiKatanga:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_homosexuality#Africa

Hope that helps.

Dude, don't post wikipedia to me. That's for uneducated folks and people in secondary school.

Post academic proofs based on proven archaeological evidence(s) with timeline.

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 3:09pm On Aug 01, 2014
Symphony007: It gives me great joy that there are still countries in africa with a judiciary that does it job without sentiments or personal feelings. No country on earth can have a constitution which protects fundamental human rights then go ahead to criminalize freedom of expression. It is ridiculous and no judiciary will stand for that. Nigeria should take note. Our supreme court must strike down ours if it gets to their desk. If our governments wants it's anti gay law to stand, then it should do a constitutional amendment were fundamental human rights is removed then a law like that can stand. But you can't claim to protect human rights and put people in jail for living their lives because you don't like how they do it. It's a mockery of constitutional democracy. You can't eat your cake and have it.

I perceive gay speaking here and it stinks to high heaven.
smh

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by condralbede(m): 3:09pm On Aug 01, 2014
SAY "NO" TO GAY

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 3:09pm On Aug 01, 2014
KiKatanga:

I fear you may be wasting your time, Africa will rot from the inside trying to fight people that the Europeans taught them to hate. There have been Gay Africans throughout history which is why all of the native languages have words for them.

Instead of fighting for better education, for better policing, for better infrastructure, they are fighting 5% of people who like to do something different when they close the door.

Frankly, if Africa cannot learn to focus on what matters, there is no hope. If God hates gays, let him and St Peter deal with them. God hates thieves even more, yet Nigeria is one of the most corrupt places on Earth.
HELP ME TELL THEM OH.PEOPLE WITH MISPLACED PRIORITIESangry

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Arsenate(m): 3:09pm On Aug 01, 2014
KiKatanga:

Say yes to homosexuality, if you want to. I don't want to, so why should it bother me?
you don't want homosexuality?? tell that to the birds

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Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by seankafor(m): 3:09pm On Aug 01, 2014
MissMeiya:

This the only thing dumb homophobes have to say. Polygamy polygamy polygamy blah blah blah.

Polygamy is legal in some parts of the US. But what the hell does it have to do with criminalizing homosexuality and violating human rights? Do they know what human rights are?
wait wait wait .na me u dey ask? y not quote d guy dat i quoted.. i mean d guy dat said its not allowed in d western world
Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by ElFenomeno1: 3:10pm On Aug 01, 2014
datbay: Meaning what?
You could be fu...cked up the a......sss violently if you trespass and nothing will come out of it grin
datbay: Meaning what?
You could be fu...cked up the a......sss violently if you trespass and nothing will come out of it
Re: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by Nobody: 3:10pm On Aug 01, 2014
kobonaire: You may have point that polygamy is illegal in Yankee area but funny enough they do not prosecute if married men(or women) have multiple partners outside their marital home.

What do you ACTUALLY know about polygamy in the US? What are the repercussions? Why is it legal in some parts of the US and not others? What the reasons for its illegality?

Guess what? It doesn't have a damn thing to do with the ambiguous moral codes of someone's religion. It's actually about fairness and equality. And money. Because that's what matters in America.

And lastly, please explain what it has to do with criminalizing homosexuality and violating human rights

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