MissMeiya:

What do you ACTUALLY know about polygamy in the US? What are the repercussions? Why is it legal in some parts of the US and not others? What the reasons for its illegality?

Guess what? It doesn't have a damn thing to do with the ambiguous moral codes of someone's religion. It's actually about fairness and equality. And money. Because that's what matters in America.

And lastly, please explain what it has to do with criminalizing homosexuality and violating human rights

For the record, I do not support criminalization/persecution of gays (LGBT in general).
I still feel that it is ironic that America has made polygamy illegal. At least that is to my knowledge because when I was once filling some forms pertaining to visa there was something there to that effect. How is polygamy affecting equality? Both men and women will be allowed to practice it.

MissMeiya:

Excited that I quoted you? Missed me? I gave you what you asked for, so either put up or shut up.

Lmao.

Nah, you missed me.

I'm your conscience and the nyggah you daydream about.

Have you got the answers today?

Symphony007: It gives me great joy that there are still countries in africa with a judiciary that does it job without sentiments or personal feelings. No country on earth can have a constitution which protects fundamental human rights then go ahead to criminalize freedom of expression. It is ridiculous and no judiciary will stand for that. Nigeria should take note. Our supreme court must strike down ours if it gets to their desk. If our governments wants it's anti gay law to stand, then it should do a constitutional amendment were fundamental human rights is removed then a law like that can stand. But you can't claim to protect human rights and put people in jail for living their lives because you don't like how they do it. It's a mockery of constitutional democracy. You can't eat your cake and have it.

oga you cant dash me human rights. you can't give me what is already me own. Human rights are supposed to be intuitive of every human to give to the other. It need not be put a constitution to be followed. my opinion.

Existence in an isolation to supreme principles of the Almighty Creator has been the utmost longing of human heart. It is the major cause of proliferation of false beliefs and practices that abound in our contemporary world. America has been so active in proving the eschatological authenticity of the teachings of the Holy Bible. And to the wise,prepare for the second advent of the Lamb(our Lord Jesus Christ).

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wetin u wan c?
scroll down jor..

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SirShymex:

You honestly don't know what the fecky fvck you're talking about. Once you start promoting it, more people are going to get involved in it and that's where the problem lies. If homosexuality were to be natural, then your POV might be legit. However, most times, people choose to be gay - and once you start looking at how much of an epidemic HIV is in the LGBT community is, then you'd be worried about how it might spiral out of control in a continent where nothing works.

For fvck sake, Africa can't deal with HIV at the moment, now imagine what's going to happen to the continent, with the rate in which HIV spreads in the LGBT community.

I live in London I'm surrounded by Gays, I have Gay Friends, I have friends with Gay Parents! Yet I don't want to have gay sex... Do you know WHY I don't want to have gay sex? Because I'm not gay!

ifeness: Finally Africa is waking up from stone age.

you think you are more civilized but trust me man you and your likes are suffering from inferiority complex.

KiKatanga. Don't engage with SirShymmex. He is the most RÉTARDED user on NL, with few exceptions. He will drag you through pages and pages of derailing, before resorting to giant pictures and gifs. He also enjoys telling people they don't have the answers. It's not worth it.

SMH

1Book: .. To hell with the supreme court & their paymaster (western word)....What is bad is bad, Goddamn it!...

what crime is homosexuality ?
fuvck religion, just answer with common sense.


waiting....

Symphony007: there are limits. If you commit murder, you loose those rights. If you commit atrocities that affect the state or the well being of other citizens you loose those rights. Let the government prove how a consexual relationship among two adults of sound mind is a threat to the state or other citizens.

u sound to have little light about the fabrics of d law and how the African soul frets. by d way, did u see the reason they gave for striking it down? quorum ! but ofcos u wouldn't understand that. bliv me, some 1 would move d motion again in d house when d required number is available n it would be passed into law once again. by the way, such would never happen in Nigeria cos they were more than a quorum when ours was passed.

with people like u,
what is left to change about Africans, is d colour of d skin! soon our children would forget they once had grand parents who were dark skinned, who did swallow and had a man and woman as couples.

soon, pretty soon ! weep oh Africa weep.


as for all apes in human forms, supporting dis evil , remember, it wasn't a man with d1ck that shyte u

MissMeiya: KiKatanga. Don't engage with SirShymmex. He is the most RÉTARDED user on NL, with few exceptions. He will drag you through pages and pages of derailing, before resorting to giant pictures and gifs. He also enjoys telling people they don't have the answers. It's not worth it.

Thank you very much for the advice. I fear you're right.

dhammyg: NICE.WHEN WILL NIGERIANS\AFRICANS LEARN THAT WHAT TWO ADULTS CHOOSE TO DO IN THEIR BEDROOM IS NONE OF THEIR BIZ.
WE AS AS AFRICANS HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS FACING US E.G CORRUPTION.IF WE COULD PERSECUTE CORRUPT POLITICIANS THE SAME WAY WE PERSECUTE GAYS AFRICA WILL BE A BETTER PLACE
AND BY THE WAY DO U THINK IMPRISONING GAYS WILL MAKE THEM CHANGEOR DO U THINK LYNCHING THEM WILL MAKE THEM CHANGE
AND TO THOSE SAYING BEING GAY IS UNAFRICAN AND USING BIBLE\QURAN TO JUSTIFY THE CLAIM,PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT CHRISTAINITY AND ISLAM IS ALSO UNAFRICAN

[b]What two adults choose to do in their bedroom is very much the society's business. If you are 18 & above and you decide to sleep with your mum, it is very much the business of society to stop you from committing that atrocity. If you are 18 & above and you & your sister who is equaly above 18 decide to sleep together, it is very much society's business to stop both of you from committing that crime called insest.
Likewise when two senseless (adult) males decides to sleep together it is very much the business of the state to stop them from committing that atrocity.
Some of you think everything from the western world is all good. But you must know that every society and every people decides what is good for them and what is not in line with what is universaly accepted.
Every right thinking human being knows that being gay is being crazy. Simply because Obama and some weird western leaders has impressed it upon their legislatures to pass the gay right bills does not make it the right thing.
Uganda passed the anti gay law. But they obviously do not have the lever to withstand the unslaught in the form of sanctions etc from the west. Uganda breaths mostly on foreign aids from the west, that is why Museveni has made a U-turn by going through the back door to arm-twist the supreme court to overturn the law. That is pure cowardise. He shouldnt have started what he does not have the ability to withstand.
Nigeria on the other hand is a regional power and therefore a world power. The U.S or the West does not have much leverage to use in arm twisting Jonathan to act cowardly like Museveni on this gay right nonsense (have you heard of any sanctions imposed on Nigeria because of the anti-gay right bill we passed here?). So anyone dreaming that Nigeria will change the anti-gay law soon is on a pipe dream. Nigerians in our overwhelming majority approves the anti gay legislation here. So the highest Obama can do is not to visit Nigeria during Jonathan's reign (I dont see him visiting any time soon anyway because that Obama does not show respect to whom respect is due, and his African policy is whack). [/b]

Stats for HIV/AIDS in the LGBT community vis-a-vis heterosexuals in America:

WASHINGTON, DC, July 8, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A fact sheet released at the end of June by the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) warns that HIV rates, already at epidemic proportions, are continuing to climb steadily among men who have sex with men (MSM).

The CDC notes that while homosexual men make up only a very small percentage of the male population (4%), MSM account for over three-quarters of all new HIV infections, and nearly two-thirds (63 percent) of all new infections in 2010 (29,800)



http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/epidemic-1-2-of-gay-men-will-have-hiv-by-age-50-if-current-rates-continue-w

^^^Now let's do the maths: gays make up 4% of the male population, yet they make up 63% of all new infections among men. Now apply that to Africa and see if that won't quintuple the HIV/AIDS epidemic on the continent. That's scary, especially for a continent that's struggling to deal with the virus, at the moment.

Arsenate: you think you are more civilized but trust me man you and your likes are suffering from inferiority complex.

At least i do not judge nor porknose into other people's affairs. I do not feel inferior to any Gods talkless of humans. Everyone has equal rights,whether you and your president thinks so or not......Gay people have the right to do whatever they want as long as they not inconvinient others.

Rufex07: polygamy should also be allowed in the western world since it also affects human right violation. Hypocrites!

Ur head is dere jare.

SirShymex:

You honestly don't know what the fecky fvck you're talking about. Once you start promoting it, more people are going to get involved in it and that's where the problem lies. If homosexuality were to be natural, then your POV might be legit. However, most times, people choose to be gay - and once you start looking at how much of an epidemic HIV is in the LGBT community is, then you'd be worried about how it might spiral out of control in a continent where nothing works.

For fvck sake, Africa can't deal with HIV at the moment, now imagine what's going to happen to the continent, with the rate in which HIV spreads in the LGBT community.

You are Super Daft.Hope you know that

You mean to say the whites that supoorted the blacks for equality and freedom in America and South Africa became black .I need some of that weed you been smoking bro.

In a million years,you do know that HIV prevalence in homosexuals is never going to match up with that in heterosexuals.You have HIV in your country already and the gays are not the only victims,in fact straights are higher host at 95%,prove me wrong.

Think before you type[/b].

Symphony007: there are limits. If you commit murder, you loose those rights. If you commit atrocities that affect the state or the well being of other citizens you loose those rights. Let the government prove how a consexual relationship among two adults of sound mind is a threat to the state or other citizens.

Does suicide affect the state I anyway yet it is illegal in most countries. I think Americans and the west failed to condemn this nonsense at the early stages when it started. now its a norm and almost too big to be controlled

MrKnowitall:

Depends on the state. If you go to a state like Utah, you can have as many wives as you want.

Big fat lie! Check your facts again.

kobonaire: For the record, I do not support criminalization/persecution of gays (LGBT in general).
I still feel that it is ironic that America has made polygamy illegal. At least that is to my knowledge because when I was once filling some forms pertaining to visa there was something there to that effect. How is polygamy affecting equality? Both men and women will be allowed to practice it.

No. It is not entirely illegal in the US. It wouldn't take a lot of time to look that up. It's not a secret.

Polygamy is unequal because of its INHERENT unbalance. Not to mention the additional financial benefits that a polygamist would receive from the government. The potential for abuse with fake marriages. There are endless arguments.

But the bottom line is, it's not based on morality.

So there is absolutely NO comparison between polygamy laws and this barbaric, COLONIAL-BASED legalized violation of human rights.

KiKatanga:
I live in London I'm surrounded by Gays, I have Gay Friends, I have friends with Gay Parents! Yet I don't want to have gay sex... Do you know WHY I don't want to have gay sex? Because I'm not gay!

Like seriously, who gives a shyte if you live in London? I don't live in London - I'm from London.

Can you provide the proofs that I asked for, or are you just going to keep jumping from pillar to post?

SirShymex: Stats for HIV/AIDS in the LGBT community vis-a-vis heterosexuals in America:



^^^Now let's do the maths: gays make up 4% of the male population, yet they make up 63% of all new infections among men. Now apply that to Africa and see if that won't quintuple the HIV/AIDS epidemic on the continent. That's scary, especially for a continent that's struggling to deal with the virus, at the moment.

And you think it would be better if they were sleeping with women? Surely if you sleep with women, you should be happiest if all of the gay men can enjoy sleeping with other men, rather than infecting all of the women, too?

And by the way, your maths is broken, as the number you figures lead to would be far, far more than the actual population of gay people.

Chatters:

Big fat lie! Check your facts again.

Utah doesn't allow polygamy? Provide links.

If we are justifying this law based on religion, then we are getting it all wrong.

We have bigger issues to deal with. We are quick to implement irrelevant laws and ignore the major crimes.

amazing. so many closet gays around.

Symphony007: It gives me great joy that there are still countries in africa with a judiciary that does it job without sentiments or personal feelings. No country on earth can have a constitution which protects fundamental human rights then go ahead to criminalize freedom of expression. It is ridiculous and no judiciary will stand for that. Nigeria should take note. Our supreme court must strike down ours if it gets to their desk. If our governments wants it's anti gay law to stand, then it should do a constitutional amendment were fundamental human rights is removed then a law like that can stand. But you can't claim to protect human rights and put people in jail for living their lives because you don't like how they do it. It's a mockery of constitutional democracy. You can't eat your cake and have it.

Even though there is fundamental human right, does it mean anybody can act anyway he/she wants Come to think of it, I am call to address audience of morethan 100s of people and there is no dressing code and I think oh! Its too hot 2day let me go and address this people on a boxer and singlet or naked, yeah that's what I want but I won't be allowed to do that because it's not sane. Fundamental human right is not a right to misbehave. Thanks

KiKatanga:

And you think it would be better if they were sleeping with women? Surely if you sleep with women, you should be happiest if all of the gay men can enjoy sleeping with other men, rather than infecting all of the women, too?

Please ignore him. He will usurp this entire thread. I'm not here to read his rants.

datbay: Meaning what?

meaning the judges should be arrested, convicted,nd thrown into gaol for supporting illegalities nd gayism

Symphony007: It gives me great joy that there are still countries in africa with a judiciary that does it job without sentiments or personal feelings. No country on earth can have a constitution which protects fundamental human rights then go ahead to criminalize freedom of expression. It is ridiculous and no judiciary will stand for that. Nigeria should take note. Our supreme court must strike down ours if it gets to their desk. If our governments wants it's anti gay law to stand, then it should do a constitutional amendment were fundamental human rights is removed then a law like that can stand. But you can't claim to protect human rights and put people in jail for living their lives because you don't like how they do it. It's a mockery of constitutional democracy. You can't eat your cake and have it.

It's obvious you no nothing about the law and constitution.

KiKatanga:

Thank you very much for the advice. I fear you're right.

I know I'm right. I'm familiar with his dementia.

Na lie. Sorry are u a gay?





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It will happen in Nigeria, it's only a matter of time. [/q