Obasanjo has done 10 times better than IBB. The economy is currently growing at 7% a year, under IBB it grew at an average of 2.5% and sometimes actually shrunk. Buhari also did better than Babangida. Please send your arm in the post by first class  IBB's programmes were put in place to enable embezzlement of funds, why do you think there were so many, from MAMSER, SAP, DEFRE etc etc.

You say the naira never exceeded 22 to 1 under IBB. Well, that is because it was pegged at an overvalued rate. Did you know that? The worst thing you can do to an economy is to artificially peg the currency. It does not encourage export and growth.

I wasn't talking about crime in general but assassination. Dele Giwa and many others were killed under IBB and that started a spiral of assassinations that carrys on even today. There was corruption under Shagari but the man himself wasn't corrupt but IBB actually encouraged people to be corrupt and stole billions of dollars himself.  As for drug pushing, you say it started before IBB's regime. True but there are strong indications IBB was involved in drug pushing before he came to power. Who was Gloria Okon? Why was Dele Giwa Killed. Why do you think IBB calls himself 'Evil Genious'.

You seem to be contradicting yourself by saying "Until EFCC arrest big guns like IBB, Abdusalam and Akhigbe they will continue to be like some bunch of puppets controlled by the notorious PIG(OBJ)". On the on hand you say IBB is good then on the other hand you say he should be arrested. So you must think he is a criminal then. Well you may have heard his son was arrested today so the loop is closing in on him. IBB did more damage to Nigeria, ecomomically, morally and psycologically than any other leader, except maybe Abacha.

@revolution,
There's no point in dragging this issue.
Tell me one thing OBJ has done to improve the welfare of an average man on the street?

Talking about assassination, this has been the roots of the Nigerian Politics since the 60's
Murtala Muhammed was assasinated. Maybe IBB was the trigger-man according to ur theory.
IBB employed able-bodied men, gave 'em guns and trained em to shoot and unleash terror on Nigerian populace.

I did not contradict maself at all.
I was just trying to make u see how filthy the so much celebrated EFCC organisation is.
Its just a ploy to ward off OBJ's political enemies and stuffs.

Jackal, since you asked for one thing OBJ has done I will give you one. The introduction of GSM mobile phones has created thousands of jobs and improved the business and general economic environment. Nigerians no longer have to waste time and resources travelling hundreds of miles only to arrive and be told "oga don travel". The telecoms revolution has been a huge success and improved the lives of the average Nigerian. Ask yourself how many of the previous Governments, including IBB I believe and Abacha, tried to introduced mobile phones and failed woefully.

Murtala was a military head of state killed during a military coup, I won't even call it an assasination. It was a bloody coup that failed and is very different from the assasination of innocent civilians like Dele Giwa - which involved the first use of a parcel bomb in Nigeria.

@revolution,

I set a booby-trap for u and u fell for it.
ROTFLMAO
Nairaland is killin me like krazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy.

Are u learned at all?   So U believe the introduction of GSM is a credit one should give Obasanjo?
Maybe i am wrong,  Maybe OBJ owns MTN +V-mobile and Globacom and these companies were built on OBJ's sweats.
OBJ  must have given the poor masses free mobile fones and SIM cards so we should all applaud his efforts.
Whata schmuk? U should have added internet to OBJ's credits also. Afterall, it was during his time jobs were created in Cybercafes.
I am sorry to say but i think your level of exposure is your greatest undoing.

Its like saying the introduction of Digital Television(DSTV) is a credit we should give IBB/Abacha.
My friend, can u tell me one African country that does not use mobile phones in this modern era.
Ghana has been enjoying mobile phones before we started in Nigeria. I am yet to see any Ghananian praising their president for such an insignificant feat.
Whats the big deal about mobile phones that we should start giving credits to OBJ? I am having a laugh.
I think we should give credits to Shagari as well because it was during his time people started buying Video recorders.

The point is this is the technological era.
The dumbest man in the whole wide world would have enjoyed the same credits u are giving OBJ if he was in power when GSM was introduced.
Whatz OBJ's effort in the GSM business? Because he was lucky to be in power when GSM was launched?
The intro of GSM is a global phenomenom and it is only in Nigeria people give credits to the FG for using mobile phones.
In your own views, OBJ is the key to Nigerians using mobile phones, Ohhh ma days.
Wonders shall never end. 

All the candidates listed here who have made known their intention or yet to  make known their intention to run for the presidential election are all criminals.
If Nigeria had an intergrit system of governance, all of this so called seekers or yet to be known seekers would be serving life sentences either for aiding and abetting or for being in charge of aiding and abetting corruption, mismanagement, lies, embezzlement and total disregard of the cries, voices and yearnings of the masses, turning Nigeria from a land of abundance to a land of gross hopelessness .

Since their is no structure of Checks and Balances strongly embedded in our constitution or even where it is embedded, i strongly reject every one of them to be president of that great country because they are all obstacles to the efficient execution of the constitution to provide the system of Checks and balances needed for the greater benefits of the whole masses.

We the masses must take control of our lives into our hands by arresting this criminals and making sure that they all pay for the pains of our fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters and children and also remind them that this country is ours and far more greater than any one person or group of persons.
We need a socialist Nigeria now. The masses must take control of their land now.

NIGERIA; NAIJA UNA STILL DEY SLEEP?
WE DON SLEEP TOO MUCH O
HOW LONG ;  HOW LONG ; SUFFERING AND SMILING

Jackal, goverments never (or shouldn't) directly get involved in things that impact the lives of the people, they only create a condusive environment that enables private companies to operate and impact lives of the people and the economy. The economic revolution currently taking place in China today is not driven by the government but by the private companies, however the government has received huge credit for it because it created the enabling environment.

Think about the hugh economic growth that happened in the US in the 90s. Has Bill Clinton got shares in the private technology companies that drove the growth? No, but his government received credit for it because it created the enabling enviroment. Did Bill Clinton own the stock market that created so much wealth for Americans? No, but if his policies had been poor it could have lead to negative economic and stock market growth.

In capitalism, the ecomomy is driven by the private sector with little or no direct government involvement, so based on you arguement no President or government can ever do any thing good because it is the private sector that drives the economy and provides the jobs that impact the man on the street. That is seriously flawed arguement, if you don't understand why then have a look at Zimbabwe and that should help. Why do you think mobile phones failed under the previous governments in Nigeria. Simple, corruption. Abacha gave the contract to his wife and nothing ever came of it.

OBJ handled the GSM in a transparant and credible way that made it possible for MTN, Globacom and co to even consider coming to Nigeria. Remember Nigeria had the reputation as being one of the most corrupt nations in the world. These GSM companies would never have stepped foot in Nigeria if OBJ had not created an enabling environment and conducted the deregulation of the telecoms sector in a way that gave them confidence.

So make no mistake about it OBJ deserves huge credit for the telecoms revolution in Nigeria. If you don't understand that then you must believe in direct government control that has led to so many failed institutions and white elephants  like NITEL, NEPA, NPA, Nigeria Airways, NNSL etc etc etc. OBJ's government recently sold off Delta and Ajaokuta Steel Companies to an Indian Steel Giant owned by Mitaal and in a short time they turned them around and for the first time in over 10 years Nigeria has started producing steel and is about to start exporting. Will you give the credit for that to Mitaal only? Abacha and IBB wasted billions on the two companies and failed so OBJ deserves credit for turning around the steel industry.

@ revolution,
What stupid enabling environment are we talking about here?
Countries like Ghana, Gambia and even war-ragged Sierra Leone started the use of GSM phones before Nigeria.
Nigeria is the most populous black nation in the world and Telecom giants in Africa know there's money to be made from Nigerians which was why they came to feast on the ignorance of Nigerians.
Nigeria's customer base in DSTV(Digital TV) is the highest in the whole Africa. Lagos Customers alone surpasses all the countries in Southern Africa by astronomical miles.

OBJ deserves no credit in the Telecoms revolution. The revolution was brought about simply because of the modern days of technology.
Less-developed countries had started using these facilities so Nigeria can never be an exception.
Nigerians wld have benefited the same facility if Idi-Amin was our President so it has nothing to do with OBJ's intelligence.
How can u say OBJ handled the project in a credible and transparent way when these companies were made to pay through their noses for registration.
Consumers were subjected to untold hardships of high bills and low quality of services.

Why didn't OBJ do the same to NEPA?
Why has NEPA failed in its bid to improve its service and a country like Ghana is enjoying some 2-4 years of uninterrupted power supply?
What about employments for teeming population of university graduates?
More graduates are jobless these days compared to the days of IBB/Abacha and u r giving dud credits to OBJ.
OBJ should be tied to a stake buck-naked and horse-whipped.
He is a failure.

ARE THEY TRULY AFRICANS OR THEY WEAR AFRICAN MASKS TO COVER THEIR REAL IDENTITY ?

First and foremost, i call on all the scientist in all our Tertiary institution to come together to carry out a detailed investigation of the DNA of all our past and present (especially the DNA of OBJ) ´´President Masters´´in order for the teeming masses to know the true and real origin of this criminals.
But what a shame. No Institution or Laboratory in the whole of Nigeria that is capable of determining a DNA a sample.

No logical mind can fathom why this criminal Presidents past and present can go against the will and interest of their own people (including his own interest knowingly or unknowingly) whom they claim to represent by denying them the essentials of a descent living in a land of abundance.

I know that every past and present President in Nigeria and Africa in general with the exception of one or two President (this exception is not applicable to Nigeria) have always and will continue to go against the cries and yearnings of the masses as long as we the masses do not find out where their loyalty lies.

By employing the dictates or programmes of IMF, World Bank and other multinational conglomerates into the day to day administration of African countries, Presidents like OBJ and his counterparts in other African countries are only tools of manipulation in the hands of imperialistic Nations to satisfy their own interest. I repeat, only their own interest.
It is impossible to satisfy two interest. Either one is satisfied and the other is left to suffer or no interest is satisfied. The interest of Nigeria should be to provide food, shelter, clothing, jobs and other services that will complement the basic needs of the people of Nigeria.

And as long as a great country like Nigeria with the capacity and capability to be a self sufficient country have presidents like OBJ who are morons and tools of manipulation remain in power or have access to power, then Nigerians should forget about meeting their basic needs till eternity.

Jackal, you are again contradicting yourself. Listen to yourself; you say "Countries like Ghana, Gambia and even war-ragged Sierra Leone started the use of GSM phones before Nigeria", that is exactly my point. Why did successive governments in Nigeria before OBJ fail to introduce GSM? Why was Nigeria one of the last counteries in Africa and the world to introduce GSM? Why was it that when previous governments tried to introduce mobile phones in Nigeria non of the big multinational companies were interested? OBJ came in and did what others before him couldn't or wouldn't do and you say it has nothing to do with him? If he had decided to give the contract to his cronies or state owned companies like Nitel etc do you think Nigeria will have a functioning GSM today?

Regarding NEPA, the investments required to turn around the electricity sector is a lot larger than the telecoms sector and the problem and solution are a lot more complicated so it takes time. However at the end of 2007 things will radically improve with the new gas driven power projects due to be commissioned this year and next. I am sure when the problem is eventually solved you will give the credit to the companies and not to the government.

It is amazing how underacheiving our past leaders that the introduction of GSM is pointed at as a major


acheivement.As was earlier pointed even war-torn nations like Sierra Leone DRC Congo and Iraq have fast growing GSM markets.Does that mean that those running these places deserve praise?

The President will deserve praise if he he was able to acheive double digit growth rates and significant reductions in poverty.There is no indication of any such acheivements in this Govt

Instead the high oil prices have covered up alll the weaknesses of this Govt.Don't forget that during the Abacha adminsrtation oil prices were at one-third present day levels,hence Obasanjo has 3 times the levels of revenue available to the previous Abacha adminstration .
Can anyone in all honesty tell me what has been acheived with this tripling of resources?

The government is no responsible for economic growth. We are.

The government would deserve praise if they are able to maintain law and order efficiently.

Mr Revolution, i am sorry to say that you have eyes but you cannot see.

@Seun
The Govt is fullly responsible for economic growth because the Nigerian economy is not a liberalised free market economy,the State still has a major stake in the economy through state run organisations such as NNPC,NEPA.

What are they waiting for? Let them liberalize it.

Someone should tell me how many telecommunication masts president obasanjo erected!

If they liberalise it,it will close a major source of corruption for those in power.For instance,if u allow other coys into the power sector,that means that NEPA or Power Holding as it is now known loses biz and the exclusivity that guaranties constant supply of revenue.

The only option that they have is to take things slowly and form private coys to take over these assets

4Play, exactly. You hit the nail on the head. It is the underperformance of the past leaders that makes OBJ achievements good. Performance is relative. If in a very large family no one has ever made it into university the first person who goes to university will be celebrated as if they have achieved something that is extraordinary. And indeed it is something special in the context of that family even though thousands of students go the university every day.

This debate started because Jackal said IBB is 10 times better than OBJ; if that were the case the standards by which we assess Nigerian leaders would be much higher and people won't be praising OBJ for these achievements which should be the norm. Yes in the rest of the world they are the norm but in Nigeria were nothing seems to work anyone who achieves these thing should be praised.

Let me thow open a challenge to all of you who oppose my line of arguement; tell me a leader of any country in the world, dead or alive, who you think performed well. Then we can analyse the achievements you admire them for and see if they had direct control or involment in those achievements or if the achievements are unique and no other countries had attained them before. This will help the rest of us understand you criteria for deciding a good leader because I am confused,  Jackal said OBJ has not performed yet says IBB did. 

Ghana is not too far away, Rawlings.

Provided Ghana with light 24-7 and had the great revolution

OK. Now explain to me based on the line of arguement before, how is this an achievement when electricity is steady in many countries around the world?

Also, why is Ghana still experiencing power cuts today if the power sector reform was so successful? Ghana has stable electricity for a period of time after the reforms but there are still severe power cuts. How has Rawlings solved the problem? Do you know that Malaysia was once of the same size as Ghana economically because has since left Ghana far behind. Rawlings was in power for about 20 years and in that time Ghana did not solve the power problem, although he improved it.

OBJ has done very well on paper but on the ground things are very bad. Corruption is at its highest peak and people are suffering.

@ revolution,
OBJ has not done anything.
He is the most visionless President Nigeria has ever had and its a shame people like u think he has done well.
Check out the price of fuel now compared to the days of IBB and even Abacha.
OBJ formed EFCC and this body was supposed to be recovering stolen funds and loot from supposed corrupt government officials but where are these funds?
Even a blind man knows OBJ has done more damage to Nigeria than many other ex-Presidents in the past.
U keep comparing OBJ's days to IBB's days but u keep forgetting the fact that IBB was a military ruler which explains why most foreign investors dont wanna get involved.
OBJ is a democratic President so u should expect more foreign investors/conglomerates to invest in Nigeria.
IBB as a democratic ruler will be more astute than a dumb-ass OBJ who does not know his left from his right.
OBJ has failed and his 8-year rule has plunged NIgeria into more darkeness than the country has ever experienced.

The issue of which past or present criminal presidents of Nigeria and Africa in general has achieved what and what is not a subject to be debated upon. I consider this issue of discussion or argument as senseless, hopeless and a sign of shallow reasoning.

As long as the majority of the Nigerian masses still find it difficult to  afford food on their tables (many people still perish because of hunger in Nigeria).
Men, women, boys, girls and children find it extremely difficult to cloth themselves, or move about in tattered threads knowing fully well that after walking the streets of Nigeria still have a big problem to comprehend about where to lay their heads.

FOOD, CLOTHING and SHELTER are basic and fundamental neccessities that every Nigerian must be entitled to or have access to at any given period of time, anywhere. And the satisfaction of this fundamentals should never be a commendation to anyone. It is a right.

Since this primary needs which ensures the healthy, peaceful survival, development and existence of every human being living are still a mirage to the teeming masses of Nigeria, to give credits or accord any form of respect or value to any past or present criminal presidents is foolhardy and a slap on the faces of millions of Nigerians in a country that have abundance human and natural resources coupled with a fertile land to support every agricultural products.

Anyone that can defend an explanation why there are milions of foodless, clotheless and homeless Nigerians in the mist of abundant mineral resources is a real enemy and part of the system that have been denying majority of the masses the right of access to the basic and fundamental means of existence.
Such a person must be hanged immediately without remorse.

All this senseless and vague concepts of privatization, commercialization, liberalization, in broader term investment, must be condemned as from today.This are meaningless, conduit pipes, ploy and instruments of manipulation for corruption and embezzlement which will never put food, cloth and give home to the countless millions but further deny and impoverish them from their basic needs of existence.

It is not possible for someone to run away from his shadow. A president that is not aware - or he is aware -  of the priorities of needs of his fellow country men and women and fails to satisfy first this basic needs (because for example you cannot make clothes from cotton when you are hungry and it is never possible for humans to think about having a house when they are hungry and clotheless) in all abundance with the resources at the country´s disposal is a criminal or a slowpoke or a tool of manipulation in the hands of the imperalist Nations.

Such a presidents must never be accorded any form of respect or recognition (except by his fellow cronies who jointly connive to deny the masses their rights),
but must be called a criminal and a big one at that!

In my own knowledge, i do not know how investment and other concepts associated with it , will make a president understand that he has to go into massive agricultural programmes without waiting for any form of investment to use the fertile land that nature has blessed the country with. From this agricultural products comes cotton also to be used for clothing. The land is there to be used.

There is no material product that have been transformed into a finished product that does not come from beneath the earth (food, clothing and shelter are basic essentials that must be guaranteed to all citizens first by any government) .

Any other form of production that are secondary are not basics but material distraction that complement the primary needs. The satisfaction of the primary needs opens the door for the satisfaction of the secondary. The primary needs can do without the secondary needs but the secondary needs can never do without the primary needs.

The criminal presidents go about chasing shadows in the satisfaction  of the secondary needs criminally deceiving the masses that investment will satisfy their basics.

Investment should be in brains and not structures or the establishment of big companies foolishly believing and deceiving that this will create jobs for the masses.
A country like Nigeria and Africa in general must invest in brains. The resources are there. Nature given, God given. The question is what and how can we use this resources.

Like i`ve said, every resources used in the manufacture of a given product comes from beneath the earth.For example -  the materials used in the production of a car comes from beneath the earth.
The machinery used in the production or assembly of a car also comes from beneath the earth. Nothing falls from the sky. Only the air we breathe.

And if nature has bestowed all this resources in all of the land of Nigeria and Africa in general, it becomes very catastrophic and funny to wait for investment from outside to come and tell the criminal presidents what to do with the resources - of which -  the land from which the investor is coming from does not possess the variety of nature given resources that our country Nigeria possess.

How possible is it that a person or foreign investor that comes from a land that does not possess for example natural resources in steel or aluminium come to tell me or advice me on what to do with those resources.

If that is the case - that means - I have no brains or I have a brain but I refuse to think with my brains. No human has a monopoly of intelligence.

Ok -  let us assume that the investor has the brain to transform this natural given resources which his country does not even possess, then the question is how was it possible for an investor to know how to use this resources?

Then - what about us that our country possess this resources? Will we have to continue to wait on foreign direct investment all the time?

This is the reason why the continent of Africa is suffering in total hopelessness today because we fail to realize that we have to think on our own because we have dummies and puppets who have been so brain-washed to be useful only as tools of manipulation in order to satisy other country´s interest and continue to go against the interest of his own people.

Brains are never for oppression but to think and find the way out on how we are going to use our natural given resources to our benefits.

Foreign investment also has its own benefits to satisfy which for a long time has been its only means of survival -  and for how long will our slowpoke criminal presidents continue to think that his country´s interest will be satisfied when the foreign investment also has his own interest?

Whose interest will then be served? It is absolute and practically impossible for two interest to be satisfied for the benefit of all.
The interest of Nigerians is the provisions of the basic necessities of life. There will always be contradictions and more often than not it is always at the expense of the host countries.

Since past and present criminal Presidents do not care because they have been conniving with this investors to oppress and steal the natural resources of the  the masses , Nigeria and Africa will never satisfy their basic neccessities of life.

Life will continue to be difficult for the masses till eternity. It becomes very imperative that the masses should declare every past and present Presidents criminals  wanted and please, stop this ridiculous argument of which criminal president have acheived what and what,

I repeat FOOD, CLOTHING and SHELTER are basics and should never be compared with any form of achievements.

Until this is satisfied in abundance , a reasonable and responsible leader will never stop to think about something different.

A government that fails to satisy this basic needs of the whole people not only to a group of individual or groups of individual in years past and present especially in the face of abundance human and natural resources must be declared a CRIMINAL AND WANTED. TIME FOR EXCUSES ARE OVER. THE MASSES MUST TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR LIVES AND THAT OF THEIR CHILDREN INTO THEIR OWN HANDS NOW IN THE LAND OF THEIR ANCESTORS.

@To-Chi

that was quite long.

As much as I truly admire DUKE, but I think he needs more time to develop into a true solid leader. He's currently doing a great job, he looks like a president (thank God, nomore ugly president) and I think he has the charisma to take this country to the next level, But he doesn't have the strenght as yet. Trust me.

I still think that the best president for Nigeria during this rebuilding process is IBB, He's very strong and well respected. He has what it takes to get the job done effectively. Let's look forward and allow him to come back and redeem himself. It can get any worst at this point as a president.

People like DUKE are not just strong enough and that doeasn't mean he's not going to get stronger, but for now IBB is my man.

Atiku on the hand has too many obstacles that we do not need as a country.
And the rest of the candidates are just not competent.

Big B, IBB well respected? By Whom? Certainly not me. IBB is not respected in Nigeria, even in the North. IBB vs Duke in a fair electtion and I have no doubt Duke will win. Duke is a lot stronger than you think and will rise to the occasion as President. Remember when Bill Clinton was facing Bush Snr in 1992? Lots of people were saying Clinton was not experienced enough and Bush was ecpected to win a second term especially as he had just lead the world against Saddam invasion if Kuwait. After Bush Snr lost many said it was a mistake, however today most acknowledges Clinton was one of the best US presidents ever.

Duke reminds me very much of Clinton and I have no doubt he will be an excellent President and will shock people. We need to move away from this mentality that the Nigerian President must be very experienced otherwise we will always keep looking back to our former leaders. Nigeria looked back 20 years to bring OBJ back i.e. he left power in 1979 and returned 20 year later in 1999, and now people like you saying Nigeria should bring back IBB 14 years after leaving power. Then who after IBB, Abubakar? IBB should be answering for his crimes and corruption rather than running for an election and frankly I think it is a disgrace to Nigeria that people like you are calling for a criminal to be brought back.

It is time to look forward. It is time for a change. It is time for the greated paradigm shift in the history of Nigeria that will culminate in the election of the first President born after Nigeria's independence.

Donald Duke in a head-lock with IBB?
Its like sparring Spike Lee and Bruce Lee.
Donald Duke is a rat compared to IBB.
Managing a state well is different from managing a complex country like Nigeria.
IBB's done it before for 8 years and i think he did well as a Military Officer.
A democratic IBB will work wonders in Nigeria and i support him 100%
I am flying down to Nigeria personally to come vote for him.
If u doubt this please compare IBB's days with Abacha's.

Well, I am sure Spike Lee will beat a dead Bruce Lee I have seen several polls, including the ones on this site (Nairaland) and Duke has trounced IBB and others in all of them, so where do you get this disillusion that IBB is popular?

Jackal, you amaze me. I am convinced you either benefited from the corrupt IBB regime in the 80s/90s or you were totally blinded by IBB's evil charm.

IBB did well as a military officer? ha ha ha Don't make me laugh. He was involved in almost every coup in the history of Nigeria and hardly went to any war zones. Why do you think IBB overthrew Buhari and killed Dele Giwa? I know high ranking retired army officers who say with convictions that IBB was involved in the drugs trade and was to be sacked and arrested by Buhari before the coup in 1985. Is that who you want to rule Nigeria again? God forbid! Quite frankly IBB was no military officer, he was simply a politician in military uniform who did probably the greatest damage to Nigeria in history in those 8 years in power.

IBB wants to come back to cover his tracks but it is too late; watch him humiliated over the next few months.

@ revolution,
I will still put my money on a dead Bruce Lee to whup Spike Lee's ass.

Back to the issue at hand,
Don't be mis-led by various opinion polls u see online cos Nigerians can be dodgy.
If an opinion poll was conducted online in 1999 then Olu Falae should have floored OBJ cos OBJ did not even win in his neighbourhood in Ota.
Don't get it twisted, Nigeria is complex and u cannot really say who wld win until the elections so take a chill pill on that.

I didnt benefit anything during the IBB regime but he is a man i respect a lot.
He ruled Nigeria for 8 years and his decisons and programmes were simply subliminal.
IBB overthrew Buhari cos Buhari was a dummy being controlled by Tunde Idiagbon.
Buhari lacks the quality of a leader and an average Nigerian knows this as a fact back in 'em days.

IBB killed Dele Giwa? OJ simpson killed his wife and maybe Jerry Useni poisoned Sani Abacha plus Abdusalam poisoned MKO Abiola.
I dunno what u are talking about cos as far as i am concerned the whole situation is inconclusive.
Its just a propaganda and IBB is innocent until anyone can prove to me beyond reasonable doubt that he is guilty of the crime.
All the high-ranking officers u know that claim IBB was involved in drugs trade should tape it shut. No proof, No evidence and thus no conviction.
Nigerians are always eager to spread un-substantiated news.

What harm did IBB inflict on Nigeria?
Do u realise Nigerians lived better in those days than now?
Check out the statistics of suffering index in Nigeria conducted by the WHO in 1993 and now in 2006.
The mortality rate(death rate) is now higher than before and birth-rate is astoundingly lower.
More people beg alms on the streets than before and the abject poverty has sky-rocketed astronomically.

FYI, if u don't vote for him millions of people will do so ur vote against IBB will be insignificant.
IBB is a genius and i am sure he will work wonders as a democratic President.
He was the brains behind ECOMOG that restored peace in war-torn Liberia and many West African countries.
IBB for President is a dream come true.
GO IBB GO IBB GO.

I am enjoying the run up to the 2007 elections. The truth about IBB is about to be revealed. Even the average Northerners don't like him because he did nothing for them, do you remember the man who slapped him in the mosque a few years back?

Jackal, just watch and see the downfall of your beloved IBB.

Go Duke Go! Yes to President Donald Duke GCFR! - www.dukeforpresident.com
Stop IBB! Down with IBB - www.againstbabangida.com

its not as simple as IBB vs Duke?

Revolution, I truely appreciate your mentality or state of mind and I feel you big time.
I also admire your beautiful example (Clinton and Bush sr) you've used to articulate your point.

But Nigeria is not an easy country to rule, It is a very complicated country. And trust me, to rule this country you need more that being smart or kind or having the advanced education. It is a dangerous zone. A zone that is ineffable,
I'm 100% sure Duke will not be able to deal with the pressure or withstand the complexities, He's young and very inteligent, but I think he needs more time to develop, I would love to see him in 4 years.


Being an effective leader is one thing and leading Nigeria as a country is another thing, Do not waste your time, IBB is a perfect fit for this position. He has what it takes to reform Nigeria. We need to look forward and allow him to redeem himself, the same way OBJ got the opportunity.

There is no clean leader in Nigeria, even Duke is dirty just like the rest, if you place him under the microscope you will see my point. Hence don't allow the past events to predict the future. It is a new day, a new strategy, a new situation and a new state of mind, let's look forward and move Nigeria to the next level by electing a competent individual who can get the job done effectively and efficiently.

Afterall, we are currently being ruled by the most dirtiest man alive (OBJ), and you just can not compare IBB to OBJ. The nose is just too far from the mouth. IBB is a better leader under all circumstance.

Big B, on the contrary I think Nigeria is one of the easiest nations to rule on earth. Nigerians accept anything you throw at them. The US is 100 times more difficult to rule than Nigeria because the people and the congress will not accept anything and if the President crosses the line he will be fired. The very fact that IBB can even contemplate coming back and running for election just shows you how easy Nigeria is to rule, how quickly people forgot and how easily Nigerians are to buy.

The President of Nigeria can do anything and get away with it; things that in other civilised countries he will impeached or even jailed for. Some example:

1) Recently OBJ handed over Bakassi to Cameroun against the constitution. Bakassi is included in the constitution as being an integral part of Nigeria so the only way this territory could be handed over is after the national assembly changed the constitution. However OBJ didn't even seek the permission of the NA and I read in the papers today that he sent the NA a letter yesterday (dated June) seeking permission. What a cheek, given the Bakassi has already being handed over. Who is going to question him? In other democracies the President will be impeached for this especially as it was against the wishes of the indigenes of Bakassi. Other nations would have held a referendum first but not in Nigeria.

2) OBJ was ordered to release Lagos State's allocation by the Supreme Court and he still refused. In other civilised countries the President will be impeached for that. Not in Nigeria

3) Soon after OBJ came to power there was a revolt in a small community in Rivers State and OBJ sent in the Army who killed hundreds and burnt the village mercilessly. In other countries this would bring down the President

4) Almost the entire Northern Nigeria introduced Sharia law against the constitution and the President stood by helplessly. In other civilised nations it will bring down the President.

5) 7 years after OBJ came to power there is no stable electricity; in other civilised nations this would lead to the downfall of the President.

The truth of the matter is nothing, apart from coups or death, has ever lead to the downfall of a Nigeria regime. So don't give me that nonsense about Nigeria being difficult to rule. Nigeria is an incredibly easy country to rule, where everything is accepted with the phrase "God dey". To this day there has never been a civil revolution in Nigeria because the people are so scared and as soon as the police/army shoot they disappear.

I can rule Nigeria easily. In Nigeria if you try to prosecute a rich/prominent person for corruption or a crime even as serious as murder his entire community, state and tribe will rally round him and say it is becuase he is an Igbo, Yoruba or Ijaw man etc. Was that not what happenned in OBJ's case? When the NA tried to impeach him the South, including South West who didn't even vote for him, rallied round him. If Duke is elected President the entire South Nigeria will back him up because they will see it as an attempt by the North to install their man. So what exactly is it that will make it difficult for Duke to rule Nigeria?

Believers have started again to assume that the solution to Nigeria´s problem is based on track record or whatever name it may be called.

The problem of Nigeria is not who occupies the seat of power - no matter what track record he or she may possess but has always been with the masses.

We easily forget that within and around the seat and corridors of power there is a virus which immediately roars its ugly head to corrupt the so called, experience, young, intelligent, upright and tested contenstants when they eventually take the mantle of leadership.

As long as we the masses continue to fold our hands, complain, complain and complain and do not fight this virus not by prayers and fasting or through elections, then we should forget about a better live for us and our children born and unborn.

According to Fela, may his soul rest in peace "we no wan die, i get big house, i no get house, i get one child , i no get child" and so on. If we continue to live with this mentality, what we desire will never come to pass.

The masses in the developed world today are living better today because they confronted and fought the virus.

This virus is the system, the usual system of not listening to the voices and desires of the people and in the absence of confrontation, it becomes a code of conduct for the ruling government.

That is the reason OBJ could raise fuel prices as he deems fit because he knows very very well that the masses will only complain with the intial "gra gra" and after a day or two, we will return to the normal status quo of "suffering and smiling".

For example, we all know what happened in France some couple of months ago when the government introduced a law “First Job Contract”

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/mar2006/fran-m29.shtml

Millions of students and workers demonstrated against it till the end until the French government had no other option but to return to the status quo.

This is just one example and there are many more of how the masses must remain dogged and rugged to fight the system no matter the victimization and oppression employed by the government.

2007, is around the corner - it does not matter anymore who will occupy the
seat. What matters is for the masses to know that they are masters and the occupier is the servant. The masses will take control of power come 2007 because the virus is also dogged but not rugged.