aminusanti:


And what category did u throw d trinity believers??

So, u are going with it as the only son of God?

aminusanti:


Pls get dis right , am quoting it bcus we believe in it there are God's words but when it comes to the errors, there r so obvious that even a layman can identify them.

Yez u r not following jesus and his teachings. u cant deny d errors/ contradiction in the bible

*where did jesus said he is God follow him?
*show me where he said he ll die for ur sins?
* where did he claim divinity?
* where is it mentioned that u should go to churches on sunday

do u keep d commandments of moses?

Matthew, Mark, and Luke, authors of the first three Gospels, believed that Jesus was not God (see Mark 10:18 and Matthew 19:17).  They believed that he was the son of God in the sense of a righteous person.  Many others too, are similarly called sons of God (see Matthew 23:1-9)

aminusanti:


Pls stop lying to urself mr man and what happened to the first question? No clue?
Lol

Jessicha:


Mr , do u mean its wrong to translate "theos" as a god when its not referring to the Almighty God? thats plain ignorance , compare Act 28:6 and have a rethink


" But they were expecting he was going to swell up with inflammation or suddenly drop dead. After they waited for a long while and beheld nothing hurtful happen to him, they changed their mind and began saying he was a god "

tell me that's wrong ?

johnw74:


You don't believe the Bible is why you don't understand it, at all.

I'm not going to have discussion with you because you don't want help, and have a false accuser bad mouth.

I may keep pointing out your wrongs though as I have done.

aminusanti:


Why should I believe in something that is full contraction, people putting there own opinion anyhow, and u expect me to just believe and follow as u are doing? Man u need to wake up as u only live once, make good use of ur time by seeking proper knowledge of what you are worshiping. D difference btw me and one u is I read both scriptures with open mind but most of you are just assuming and ignoring to even give a single chance to study the Quran and ask more questions on anything dat seems not to sounds right. Rather, u guys prefer just pick some mis interpreted verses online and use them as an excuse. Whatever u are doing make sure u use facts then analyze and understand it not just going with people are saying.

johnw74:


@bold, I don't just expect you to believe and follow as I am doing, I couldn't care less what Bible haters do.

Jessicha:



" the true worshippers will worship the Father .... the Father is looking for such like ones to WORSHIP HIM" John 4:23

but rather than worship the Father, trinitarians act contrarily by worshipping a mysterious three in one god that they themselves don't understand . totally wrong thus making them the EXACT opposite of a true worshipper !!!



no , not only son cos even the angels are sons of God BUT " ONLY BEGOTTEN SON",John 3:16 because he is the only one created directly by The Almighty God
. Jesus testify this at Rev 3:14 , that he is the beginning of the creation by God .

all other things are created through Christ , he was a master worker with God Almighty ( prov 8:22 , 31 which refer to him as wisdom personified , also Colosians 1:16 )

aminusanti:


U are really funny n clueless I swear, sorry for ur life

Qur'an 2:6
" Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe"

johnw74:


Well you are right for once there, I will not believe the quran.

aminusanti:

Hav no time for ur lame accusations

johnw74:


maybe you will stop your crying now

OLAADEGBU:
Is Jesus really God? There are many cults and false religions today that deny it. What is the truth about Jesus Christ? We turn to the Scriptures for the answer.

Is Jesus really God? There are many cults and false religions today that deny it. The Jehovah’s Witnesses, for example, believe Jesus was created by the Father billions of years ago as the Archangel Michael and is hence a "lesser god" than the Father. The Mormons say Jesus was born as the first and greatest spirit child of the Heavenly Father and heavenly mother, and was the spirit-brother of Lucifer. New Agers claim Jesus was an enlightened master. Unitarian Universalists say Jesus was just a good moral teacher. What is the truth about Jesus Christ? We turn to the Scriptures for the answer.

https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/jesus-is-god/is-jesus-god/

johnw74:


Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (theos), and the Word was God (theos).

The greek for God in the first instance of the verse is "theos" and the Greek for God in the second instance is "theos", however jw correctly say "God" for the first instance, and incorrectly say "a god" in the second.

It is clear that John would have used another word than "theos" concerning "the Word", if he meant that "the Word" was
something other than God.



A few verses other than John 1:1 showing that God, the Word, Jesus Christ, is God:

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (God with us).

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.




Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Heb 1:11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
Heb 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Hebrews 1:9 (above) shows that the Father is the God of the Word-Jesus Christ, it also shows that the Word-Jesus Christ is God, jw think because Jesus's Father is His God, that He Himself cannot be God, they don't believe so many scriptures. The verse shows God and the Word being two persons and God.
jw cannot understand it, as they do not have the Holy Spirit living in them, but they should believe it instead of changing what the Bible says.

Also, verse 13 shows that the Word-Jesus Christ is not an Angel.


There are many verses besides these showing that God, the Word, Jesus Christ, is "God"
God and David and John and Timothy and more say that God, the Word, Jesus Christ, is God,
and jw org. contradicting the Bible all over, evily say no He isn't God, He is "a god"

It is truly an evil thing to call "God", "a god".
It's like the pharacees saying Jesus did His miracles by the power of the devil.
jw is the modern day pharisee.

juhan:
you've said it all dear....all these jw are just confusing people.

Jessicha:

" the true worshippers will worship the Father .... the Father is looking for such like ones to WORSHIP HIM" John 4:23

but rather than worship the Father, trinitarians act contrarily by worshipping a mysterious three in one god that they themselves don't understand . totally wrong thus making them the EXACT opposite of a true worshipper !!!

Emusan:


Yet your founder Russell and Rutherford worshipped Jesus. That means they died as an idolaters.

Jessicha:

" true worshippers will worship the FATHER ... the Father is looking for SUCHLIKE ones to WORSHIP HIM " john 4:23

aminusanti:


What I sent to u earlier was it written in hebrew or swahili?? Pls stop being funny if u have no answer to it

OLAADEGBU:


Your post that I quoted was blank. Please send it in plain English and not Arabic.

mustymatic:



NO!

OLAADEGBU:


Explain.

mustymatic:



1- Jesus is not all knowing:


Mark 24: 32-36:


32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only

God is all-knowing, Jesus fails this main qualification. This alone is enough to prove that Jesus is not God. Also note the verse says ONLY the Father meaning nobody else, including the divine Jesus.

mustymatic:


2- Jesus never said I am God.

Is this a coincidence? I think not. If you make a claim on someone, then you would expect that someone to back your claim up. If I claim somebody is a king, you would expect that king to say he is a king, at least once. In the OT God says he is God several times, why not once with Jesus in the NT? Did God change his ways? I think not, since the OT says God does not change. Here are the passages from the OT where God says he is God:

Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins

Gen 46:3 And he said, I [am] God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:

Exd 16:12 I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel: speak unto them, saying, At even ye shall eat flesh, and in the morning ye shall be filled with bread; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD your God.

Exd 20:2 I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Psa 46:10 Be still, and know that I [am] God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

Psa 50:7 Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee: I [am] God, [even] thy God.

Psa 81:10 I [am] the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Isa 41:10 Fear thou not; for I [am] with thee: be not dismayed; for I [am] thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

Isa 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call [thee] by thy name, [am] the God of Israel.

Isa 45:5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me,

Jer 32:27 Behold, I [am] the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

Eze 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD.

Eze 20:19 I [am] the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;

Eze 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.

Eze 23:49 And they shall recompense your lewdness upon you, and ye shall bear the sins of your idols: and ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD.

So as we can see, God is not shy to say I am God. SO if Jesus is God, then how come he never said it once like the God of the OT? This is not a coincidence.

mustymatic:


3- Jesus is the son of man, the OT tells us not to trust the son of man:


The New Testament makes it very clear that Jesus is the son of man:

Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes,

abbasajao:


What a religion

mustymatic:


New International Version
"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

King James Bible
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord
If Jesus was God he wouldn't say "our" god rather "your "

OLAADEGBU:


But satan also believes this and trembles.