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Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by lightoftruth: 4:03pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
PastorKun: In islam a non muslim is an infidel irrespective of your religion but in reality infidels are only Christians. Muslims don't have issues with any other religion apart from christians. In statistics how many times have you heard that a buddah or hindu temple was attacked by muslims/terrorist ?....... Christians believing that is against their religion to took to arms against islam and terrorism is the reason terrorism will not stop. Christians should declare war against islam and terrorism or humbly/cowardly lay down their life for muslims/terrorist to slaughter . |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by lightoftruth: 4:12pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
onetrack: Hope you read my last statement . May be we are saying the same thing. Are you suggesting that the world will be a better place without religion ?. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by lightoftruth: 4:21pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
johnydon22: Thank you Mr. , Please enlighten the pastor . |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by lightoftruth: 4:29pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
PastorKun: He was not going against any teaching rather he was doing what jesus christ thought his deciples in the bible . Jesus christ at a point in the bible ask his deciples to took to arms . He told them to sell their cloth and buy a sword . Mr. Research on it you will be amazed on your findings. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by thorpido(m): 4:55pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
lightoftruth:This is a statement made in ignorance.Did you ever read from this same bible that Jesus taught in parables?Have u read the bible yourself to see his teaching were in stories and figurative expressions? If He encouraged the same use of swords,then why did He rebuke Peter who used a sword at the time He was arrested(Matthew 26:52)? 1 Like |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by PastorKun(m): 5:08pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
lightoftruth: You are very wrong here, go to India muslims constantly attack Hindus there. Islamic terrorism is against all religions including moderate muslims who don't agree with their fundamentalist views. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by PastorKun(m): 5:10pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
lightoftruth: Ignorance at it's peak, Jesus was clearly speaking in parables there otherwise quote were in scriptures the disciples used the sword to spread their message. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by PastorKun(m): 5:33pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
@empiree Kindly refrain from mentioning my moniker in that your quarantined section of deceit as you know I can't bring myself so low as to respond to your comments there. Meanwhile I am still waiting for your contribution to the subject matter here. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by onetrack(m): 10:48pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
lightoftruth: Yes. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by lightoftruth: 12:25am On Feb 16, 2015 |
PastorKun: Must you be rude ? I don't know the ignorant one here , Keep deceiving yourself and keep interpreting the bible the way it will suit your shallow thinking . You call your self a pastor but you lack that humbleness. Making you to understand, is like trying to make a suicide terrorist to understand how wrong it is. Luke 22:35-38 35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. 36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he thathath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. 37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. 38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by PastorKun(m): 7:21am On Feb 16, 2015 |
lightoftruth: I asked for a verse showing were the disciples used the sword to spread their message and the best you can do is to insult and repeat the same parable? What arrogant expression of ignorance |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by truthman2012(m): 1:08pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: Going by quranic injunctions, the 8% are the true muslims. How do you interpret the following: Qur'an (8:39) - “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.” Translation from the Noble Quran Qur'an (9:29) - " Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Qur'an (2:193) - "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong- doers." The key phrase is to fight until "religion be only for Allah." Qur'an (3:83) - "Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has sub mitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?" So much for the earlier verse (2:256) stating that there is "no compulsion in religion". 1 Like |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by tartar9(m): 2:07pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
PastorKun:first of all why are they fighting? |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by tartar9(m): 2:18pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
Rich4god:how can satan fight himself.whether christain,hindu,buddhist,… they are all allies of satan with one mission;oppose the truth Al-Islam. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by Rich4god(m): 3:22pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
tartar9:lolz.... this is d most hilarious and thing I have heard today. Are you related to basket mouth or wat. if devil is wat you defined him to be by attributing him to Christians, Buddhist and co, then that devil is a hundred times better and more human than the hallah you guys worship. 1 Like |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by Rich4god(m): 3:27pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
tartar9:wat truth do you guys have. the truth of killing innocent people, raping women, burning oda religion places. the first truth any religion shld hv is leaving in peace with people from other faith. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by true2god: 3:46pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
This is what the Bible says concerning the descendants of Ishmael, Genesis 16:12: 'He (Ishmael) will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers." So going by the bible prophesy above, Islamic terrorism will never stop. The descendants of Ishmael (the mohammedan arabs) will forever be at logger-head with his brothers (especially the Jews and the christians). |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by tartar9(m): 3:58pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
Rich4god:go to sambisa and tell abubaker shekau that one. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by johnydon22(m): 4:16pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
oya continue
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Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by tartar9(m): 4:32pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
true2god:was there anything like Islamic 'terrorism' some years back.the arabs where living in peace not untill the judeo-christain criminality which is the root cause of all the wars that are going on there and who have lived in hostility more if not the judeo-christain alliance that have invaded and made war with every single nation on this earth and even more amongst themselves |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by Rich4god(m): 5:01pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
tartar9:you just ended up showing an example of a Muslim who is supposedly representing the truth of Islam. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by tartar9(m): 5:36pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
Rich4god:out of the 1.7 billion Muslims he is the one that now represents the truth abi.smh |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by true2god: 5:53pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
tartar9:You seem not to understand the violent nature of Islam. As at the late 18th century christians were paying jizya in Turkish ottoman empire. In europe, do you know that muslim forces invaded and occupied spain and portugal , southern france, part of italy, occupied greece, attacked and stopped at vienna? It wasnt too long that muslims were expelled from europe because of their violent nature. Spain, italy, portugal, and france militarily defeated muslim turks from western europe during the period of catholic inqusition again muslim invaders. And with the current muslim jihadist attacks on europe, they will soon be expelled again, the momentum is gathering and most of europe are tired of muslim mass migration with their (muslims) special demands from the host countries assisting them free from war and poverty. In african, uthman fodio forces invaded the hausa community of northern nigeria and impose caliphate on the indiginous hausa people. In borno, the same result by kanem borno. In mali, the Islamic tuareg had been rampagin the entire mali in order to establish Islam by force on the entire population (depite the fact that mali had already been conqured for islam). In somalia, al-shabab are terrorizing. In nigeria boko haram are killing and kidnapping. But you know what, civilized world will soon rise against Islamic savagery and there will be no hiding place for Islamic terrorism ordainded from the quran (quran 9:5; quran 9:29-30). 1 Like |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by Rich4god(m): 9:06pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
tartar9:more like he is among the few that have the balls to represent the truth of Islam... she na wetin u want... |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by Ifeann(f): 10:18pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
tartar9: Tartar9 the lies u tell ur self are incredible. .. Dont u see the flaw in your statement. . Islamic terrorism has always been in the word since islam's inventor died. . After the great Schism. . The sunnis have always killed the shias, alwaites, ahmediyya etc. You Muslims have terrorized christains And jews for over 1 thousand years. .u only rest Fr om killing and switch to prosecution when the christains are paying jizyah. You Muslims murdered all the pagans on the middle east and North Africa. . U Muslims almost conquered europe if not for the crusades. ..u Muslims terrorized and destroyed Constantinople and the byzantine empire. Islam is terrorism and terrorism is Islam. .. It's even on your quran. . Qur'an 3:151 Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companion with Allah... Mohammed was the original terrorist. Tartar9 why are u still a muslim 1 Like |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by true2god: 12:02am On Feb 17, 2015 |
Ifeann you know what, with the muslim bad behaviours worldwide, and especially in western europe, the muslims will soon be expelled again (just as they were expelled before, back to their root in the arabian world). They (muslims) are fighting the battles they can never win. It is an effontry and a slap to the european that small muslim minorities are giving them serios security challenges and sleepless nights in their own countries. Most of them are already protesting against islam (like PEGIDA and EDL) and the need to expel muslims back to their arabian desert. Prez Sisi, being very smart and wise, have seen the handwriting on the wall and technically warned muslims to reconsider the violent text in the quran so that Islam will not permanently war against the rest of mankind, but many fanatics wont listen. The expulsion of arab muslims from europe by the spaniards will be a child's play when the entire europe decide to put a final stop to the muslim problems. Nairaland muslims can continue shouting that 'Islam is the religion of peace' while ISIS, boko haram, al shabab, al qaeda, hizbolla, the muslim brotherhoods, etc, continue cutting their victims' throats. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by Ifeann(f): 12:20am On Feb 17, 2015 |
true2god: I agree with most of what u said but I have to make some points. Muslims can't be expelled like in the crusades. Political correctness has destroyed the common sense of many of those European law makers Sadly Its too late for countries like Germany, Spain and France ... They will become muslim majority countries in a few decades time. The studies and data have shown it. The birth rate of the indigenous folks are to low and the birth rate of the immigrated Muslims are too high coupled with polygamy. Britian is also at very high risk.. I have lived there before, the Muslims are everywhere... They make delicious chicken and lamb kebabs by the way. Anyway Europe is in trouble. There is hope tho, Africans pushed agaisnt Islam this is why only "Arab like" north Africans are the dominant Muslims in Africa. Islam was everywhere in Africa thanks to people like usman Dan fidio who beheaded hausas and fulanis till they said the shahadda and accepted the anti Christ . However, America is safe because of the Mexicans trooping in illegally to steady the declining US population. Though the number of Muslims is steadily growing it is not a significant threat. Europe will fall to the Muslims but what do u expect. They turned their back on Christ. A lot of them are hedonistic atheists. Churchs are being converted to mosques and some to night clubs. I was heartbroken when I saw some of these with my own eyes. Anyway that's it my friend we need to pray. Pls draw my attention to any research with good news on the situation. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by Rich4god(m): 12:34am On Feb 17, 2015 |
except France starts taking drastic action, they will be the first to be over ran by myslims . anoda is Italy, though its still far ahead, but the way Italy is welcoming Muslim migrant dem Somalia and not africa I foresee such happening. How many core Muslim countries like Saudis would open its border to mass influx of non Muslims. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by Ifeann(f): 12:42am On Feb 17, 2015 |
lightoftruth: Oh Jesus, the great son of God is a wonderful teacher... He allows things to happen in order to educate us naughty humans. Pastorkun If that verse he quoted didn't happen how would we have known about this beautiful and ever green quote. “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. “ Matthew 26:52 Mohammed says fight and kill and rape and take slaves and have sex with sex slaves and breastfeed adults and sleep with children and retaliate and behead and slay Christ says Put your sword back in its place for all who draw the sword will die by the sword Mohamed slew the family of the Jewish woman that later poisoned him. If only he put back his sword in its place. The more u question my faith the more I learn and know that Islam is pure falsehood. 2 Likes |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by tartar9(m): 1:09am On Feb 17, 2015 |
Ifeann:as usual LIES! |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by PastorKun(m): 8:02am On Feb 17, 2015 |
Ifeann: Though i agree that Islamic terrorism is on the rise, i see it as the last act of a dying man out of desperation. Truth be told Islam is on the decline globally. In Nigeria alone thousands of muslims are renouncing islam on a regular basis though not everyone of them is open about it especially in the north because of the evil apotasy laws. Think of it, even based on what you are revealing about islam on this forum alone, do you know how many muslims would realise they have been mis led and renounce the religion? A lot of so called muslims in europe have actually renounced the faith, they are actually just acting along because of the cultural issues attached to publicly renouncing islam. A good number of them are now closet Atheist and christians. We are in the information era and people just can't be held back by barbaric 7th century beliefs. |
Re: What Can Be Done To Bring An End To Global Islamic Terrorism? by PastorKun(m): 8:09am On Feb 17, 2015 |
Back to the topic, it's a shame that muslims who claim to be against terrorism and who understand islam and the thinking of these terrorist better than the rest of us have not been able to proffer solutions to this menace. Could it be that taking steps to stop these terrorist would be going against the core tenets of Islam like some have claimed? Or why are our muslim brethen reluctant to suggest solutions to this problem? I believe the best solution to this problem would come from muslims as they understand their religion better and any solution coming from non muslims would be viewed with suspicion or rejected outright. |
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