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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by philips70(m): 12:13am On Jun 14, 2015
Sunnybobo3:
Maximum jail term for corruption is 2 years while that for stealing is 7 years.

Therefore, a thief should be treated as a thief , Ole, Barawo, Onye ohi, ino......

But the man you are going back in time to defend used these words in reverse of severity. Defending that man is harder than pushing a truck from Lagos to Borno.
Listen to what he said..


Ordinary stealing Nigerians refer to as corruption.

If according to your books stealing is weightier and he referred to it as ordinary, no wonder big thieves were given presidential handshakes in his government. NEVER AGAIN NIGERIA!

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Otunbatrafford: 12:14am On Jun 14, 2015
This issue is long dead and buried since the loss of PDP. However we try to garnish the two concepts," stealing is stealing and ole is ole ".
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Johnsinia(m): 12:14am On Jun 14, 2015
folabayo1:
Wether stealing o or corruption thief na thief in as much as it has to do wit embezzling public funds undecided

And to those of u calling my presido Dullard pls bring ur fathers forward!
So u r one of the dullard slave?

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Oildichotomy(m): 12:15am On Jun 14, 2015
folabayo1:
Wether stealing o or corruption thief na thief in as much as it has to do wit embezzling public funds undecided

And to those of u calling my presido Dullard pls bring ur fathers forward!
Daura President

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Nobody: 12:17am On Jun 14, 2015
I SMELL ANIMALS SHITTE

BUT CAN'T PINPOINT WHICH ANIMAL SHITTE I SMELL
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Nobody: 12:19am On Jun 14, 2015
The fact that many do not understand why the statement "stealing is not corruption" in the context used by GEJ is wrong and sooooo dumb, is the biggest tragedy of it all.

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by MrMcJay(m): 12:21am On Jun 14, 2015
OP, it took more than a year for your brain to boot fast enough to come up with this? You are a special case. Special but not gifted.

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by ken2nicez: 12:25am On Jun 14, 2015
seriously y dis writeup now? was d writer slrepin all dis while...I see no importances wit dis writeup...
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by JerryOJerry: 12:25am On Jun 14, 2015
tola9ja:
The President is so dumb by that statement of Goat (corrupt officials/pdp) and Yam (National Treasury). He's said if you don't want Goat to eat

the yam, you pack the yams away from the goat... what! How about leave the yam and the goat while you are close by holding a stick YOU CANT BE AROUND TO CHASE THE GOATS WITH THE STICK ALL THE TIME. BEARING IN MIND THAT EFCC AND ICPC DONT CHASE THE GOAT BEFORE EATING THE YAM, BUT AFTER EATING THE YAM UP. WHICH DO YOU PREFER-PREVENT FROM EATING OR CHASE AFTER EATING. THINK WELL. THOUGH YOU ARE FROM THE ZOO CALLED NIGERIA

(EFCC/ICPC), with a stern look in your face, would the goat approach the yam? Goat being a sturbon animal like every pdp criminal will

definately try to make attempt but when you hit d goat or corrupt official with the stick (EFCC/ICPC) gbam! The goat won't come near again

and other goat/pdp criminal will learn from the punishment.

We have a President that's so dull and evil. Why worrying yourself packing truck loads of yam away because of some few Goats (Fayose,

Fani-kayode, Daizine, Ngozi, Clark, Koro, Ihejirika, Maina, Moro) etc

What a silly analogy! This President is NOT in anyway inspiring
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Kianiabene: 12:26am On Jun 14, 2015
All are evil to development to the current society......
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Beamborla(f): 12:26am On Jun 14, 2015
you abuse the power or seat you are occupying when you use your position to embezzle money entrusted to you.
Abuse of power is definitely corruption.

i think the word embezzle or misappropriation is more appropriate when talking about politics.
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Nobody: 12:26am On Jun 14, 2015
philips70:


But the man you are going back in time to defend used these words in reverse of severity. Defending that man is harder than pushing a truck from Lagos to Borno.
Listen to what he said..


Ordinary stealing Nigerians refer to as corruption.

If according to your books stealing is weightier and he referred to it as ordinary, no wonder big thieves were given presidential handshakes in his government. NEVER AGAIN NIGERIA!

I was just going to say this. The Clueless One didn't say "stealing is not corruption"

He said


ORDINARY STEALING, THEY CALL IT CORRUPTION


OP, go ahead and defend that.
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by cvibe2: 12:27am On Jun 14, 2015
ok
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by kinibigdeal(m): 12:30am On Jun 14, 2015
Corruption is a moral act and not legal



Corruption is allowed to happen because we haven't decided on what to use to do two things: decide what is good (things that improve the environment and the species or provide additional resources above what are consumed), and then ensure that everyone is working toward the good by being useful to other people. Corruption is a form of exploitation, where some person or persons use more than their fair share of resources to extract usefulness from others or from the future environment. Debt is one of these corrupt tools in some ways, because it is a promise (usually coerced or deceptive) to consume resources in the future in order to obtain gain in the present. When a nation creates debt, it is promising to increase the rate of consumption of citizens in order to pay back that debt somehow (usually not in ways that are clearly available or stated). The reason corruption isn't illegal is simply because our future selves and our weaker selves don't have the same rights as present selves or powerful groups (bullies, tricksters, etc). I don't mean to emphasize monetary means. Any behavior that exploits other people is using power to corrupt a social situation, and instead of monetary cost, it is a cost to social stability, which is a resource important to modeling some kind of civil future. Dishonesty, coercion, and aggrandizement are all consumptive behaviors. Legal restrictions do not seek the opposite, merely to limit them. "The opposite of consumption is not frugality",it is generosity. The opposite of Dishonesty is honesty, not less dishonesty. The opposite of coercion is not less coercion, but cooperation. The antithesis of corruption is humble, honest cooperation. We need to work on that more

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Seriallinks(m): 12:30am On Jun 14, 2015
IdisuleOurOwn:



And you that have certificate, what have you used it for? rather than to come on faceless forum to rant.



Na which certificate that cretin get? LOL ... GET RICH OR DIE TRYING CERTIFICATE, BY DRUGS, STEALING, FRAUD, CORRUPTION AND PROMOTING CORRUPTION ABI? grin LWKMD! Bunch of covetous demons prowling like roaring lions looking for ignoramuses to devour on Nairaland grin... Bros, cluesslessness is contagious! Avoid them like the plague grin That was how barcanista got infected grin LWKMD

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Nobody: 12:33am On Jun 14, 2015
Gej's PHD isn't for nothing yet very highly educated Nigerians were deceived by propagandists in APC.

The man obviously knew what he was doing only that Nigerians' impatience and bad media team failed him.

Well, change is here whether good or bad change, Nigerians have to deal with it.

It's their choice. undecided

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by philips70(m): 12:36am On Jun 14, 2015
kalindaminda:


I was just going to say this. The Clueless One didn't say "stealing is not corruption"

He said


ORDINARY STEALING, THEY CALL IT CORRUPTION


OP, go ahead and defend that.

These latter day collective children of multiple anger think we are all clueless like their master. The man has long moved on, only occasionally watching his numerous gaffes on Youtube and shedding some tears plus hating on Okuigbe and Akpati for not putting him in better perspectives so he can atone on time.

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by folabayo1(f): 12:39am On Jun 14, 2015
Johnsinia:

So u r one of the dullard slave?
yes I am!
Any prob?

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Israel5(m): 12:39am On Jun 14, 2015
Nigerians don't read. They don't even knw their laws not more, their rights. A pity! I love America. Yeeha!
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by folabayo1(f): 12:40am On Jun 14, 2015
Oildichotomy:
Daura President
where is ya father today?
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by yuskonetswagger(m): 12:42am On Jun 14, 2015
I am new on board...just joined Nairaland today..can I know you bros!
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by menesheh(m): 12:42am On Jun 14, 2015
tola9ja:
The President is so dumb by that statement of Goat (corrupt officials/pdp) and Yam (National Treasury). He's said if you don't want Goat to eat

the yam, you pack the yams away from the goat... what! How about leave the yam and the goat while you are close by holding a stick

(EFCC/ICPC), with a stern look in your face, would the goat approach the yam? Goat being a sturbon animal like every pdp criminal will

definately try to make attempt but when you hit d goat or corrupt official with the stick (EFCC/ICPC) gbam! The goat won't come near again

and other goat/pdp criminal will learn from the punishment.

We have a President that's so dull and evil. Why worrying yourself packing truck loads of yam away because of some few Goats (Fayose,

Fani-kayode, Daizine, Ngozi, Clark, Koro, Ihejirika, Maina, Moro) etc

What a silly analogy! This President is NOT in anyway inspiring

Man you get it wrong

Hit the goat and sooner or later it will still come for the yam.

Buhari had hit the goat since 1983 and the goat still come back for the yam which we are witnessing today.
How we wish Buhari removed the yam from the goat instead of chasing and hitting the goat which will definitely come back, we wouldn't have had many goats laying its deadly sting on the yam today as we are witnessing it
grin

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by bakila: 12:44am On Jun 14, 2015
Sunnybobo3:
Maximum jail term for corruption is 2 years while that for stealing is 7 years.

Therefore, a thief should be treated as a thief , Ole, Barawo, Onye ohi, ino......
which criminal code you dey read?
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by yuskonetswagger(m): 12:48am On Jun 14, 2015
No mind am joor...d guy is high on drugs
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by manutdrichie(m): 12:55am On Jun 14, 2015
bettercreature:
Corruption is differ from stealing,you might be very corrupt without personal gain e.g adultry,while stealing simply mean taken anything that is not belong to you For your personal interest Or take another person's property without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

Taking another person's wife is stealing and/or kwaraption

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Nobody: 12:57am On Jun 14, 2015
Don't mind all dis APC members and supporters.

They knew all along that stealing is NEVER the same thing as corruption.

Even the law of Nigeria recognizes this.

They just twisted every statement GEJ made, just to make him look bad.

Stealing is BLACK, while Corruption is GREY.

Stealing involves taking what belongs to the public (usually money) for your own private use.

While corruption involves using you own money or influence to affect an outcome you don't deserve or to escape punishment by the law.

In the case of corruption, you spend your own money, but in the case of stealing, you take Nigeria's public money.

Our main problem in Nigeria is not corruption, but STEALING and Embezzlement of public funds.

Fifa is corrupt, but football still goes smoothly.

We can tolerate corrupt people, but we can't tolerate thieves.

So let's end this once and for all, Stealing and Corruption are both bad, but Stealing is a lot worse than corruption.

Stealing is NOT the same thing as corruption, it is simply a lot dealier than Corruption can ever be.

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:00am On Jun 14, 2015
manutdrichie:


Taking another person's wife is stealing and/or kwaraption

Are you minding them? A corrupt act is a dishonest act for personal gain. Simple. There is no need for long story. Corrupt = Dishonest for personal gain.


So is the OP telling me that Stealing is not a dishonest act for personal gain?

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by tit(f): 1:01am On Jun 14, 2015
kalindaminda:


I was just going to say this. The Clueless One didn't say "stealing is not corruption"

He said


ORDINARY STEALING, THEY CALL IT CORRUPTION


OP, go ahead and defend that.

you are as dull as buhari.
The former president said:
"simple cases of stealing that should have been disposed off with the stiff penalties,
are tied up as corruption cases - ordinary stealing, they call it corruption".

fools like you are the reason, Nigeria is at the bottom of the heap.

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by Nobody: 1:04am On Jun 14, 2015
Too many Goats in Nigeria. cry cry cry cry

Nigeria really needs to separate these goats from our yams that are gradually finishing.

menesheh:


Man you get it wrong

Hit the goat and sooner or later it will still come for the yam.

Buhari had hit the goat since 1983 and the goat still come back for the yam which we are witnessing today.
How we wish Buhari removed the yam from the goat instead of chasing and hitting the goat which will definitely come back, we wouldn't have had many goats laying its deadly sting on the yam today as we are witnessing it
grin
Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:04am On Jun 14, 2015
Stop all this APC talk and face the point. There is nothing like Grey or Black.

GEJ sighted a judge who said all the CORRUPTION CASES brought to him where all theft.

Let me say it again. All the Corruption cases were all theft.

Answer one question. Is Embezzlement Corruption or Stealing. Choose one.


forexexpert:
Don't mind all dis APC members and supporters.

They knew all along that stealing is NEVER the same thing as corruption.

Even the law of Nigeria recognizes this.

They just twisted every statement GEJ made, just to make him look bad.

Stealing is BLACK, while Corruption is GREY.

Stealing involves taking what belongs to the public (usually money) for your own private use.

While corruption involves using you own money or influence to affect an outcome you don't deserve or to escape punishment by the law.

In the case of corruption, you spend your own money, but in the case of stealing, you take Nigeria's public money.

Our main problem in Nigeria is not corruption, but STEALING and Embezzlement of public funds.

Fifa is corrupt, but football still goes smoothly.

We can tolerate corrupt people, but we can't tolerate thieves.

So let's end this once and for all, Stealing and Corruption are both bad, but Stealing is a lot worse than corruption.

Stealing is NOT the same thing as corruption, it is simply a lot dealier than Corruption can ever be.

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by TunnelTruth: 1:07am On Jun 14, 2015
So u steal 10 naira n do 7yrs, bt steal billions n get 3 years...what Idiots wrote dis constitution.

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Re: Legal Proof That Stealing Is Different From Corruption. by bakila: 1:10am On Jun 14, 2015
Sunnybobo3:
Maximum jail term for corruption is 2 years while that for stealing is 7 years.

Therefore, a thief should be treated as a thief , Ole, Barawo, Onye ohi, ino......
Are they all bad things? Is the President right in the circumstances of Nigeria's corruption to try and make corruption seem a lesser offence? No? ole, onyi ohi and barawo have different levels, the Criminal Code says public officers are also thieves and it is corruption.

Punishment in Special Cases


(4) If the offence is committed in any of the following circumstances-

(a) if the thing is stolen from the person of another;

(b) if the thing is stolen in a dwelling-house, and its value exceeds ten naira, or the offender at or
immediately before or after the time of stealing uses or threatens to use violence to any person in
the dwelling-house;

(c) if the thing is stolen from any kind of vessel or vehicle or place of deposit used for the
conveyance or custody of goods in transit from one place to another;

(d) if the thing is stolen is attached to or forms part of a railway;

(e) if the thing is stolen from a vessel which is in distress or wrecked or stranded;

(f) if the thing is stolen from a public office in which it is deposited or kept;

(g) if the offender, in order to commit the offence, opens any locked room, box, or other
receptacle, by means of a key or other instrument;

the offender is liable to imprisonment for seven years.

(5) If the offender is a person employed in the public service and the thing stolen is the property of the
State, or came into the possession of the offender by virtue of his employment, he is liable to
imprisonment for seven years.


(6) If the offender is a clerk or servant, and the thing stolen is the property of his employer, or came
into the possession of the offender on account of his employer, he is liable to imprisonment for seven
years
.

(7) If the offender is a director or officer of a corporation or company, and the thing stolen is the
property of the corporation or company, he is liable to imprisonment for seven years.


(cool If the thing stolen is any of the following things-

(a) property which has been received by the offender with a power of attorney for the disposition
thereof;

(b) property which has been entrusted to the offender either alone or jointly with any other person
for him to retain in safe custody or to apply, pay or deliver for any purpose or to any person the
same or any part thereof or any proceeds thereof;


(c) property which has been received by the offender either alone or jointly with any other person
for or on account of any other person;


the offender is liable to imprisonment for seven years.

(9) If the thing stolen is of the value of one thousand naira or upwards, the offender is liable to
imprisonment for seven years.

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