TheGoodJoe:


Are you minding them? A corrupt act is a dishonest act for personal gain. Simple. There is no need for long story. Corrupt = Dishonest for personal gain.


So is the OP telling me that Stealing is not a dishonest act for personal gain?

TheGoodJoe:
Stop all this APC talk and face the point. There is nothing like Grey or Black.

GEJ sighted a judge who said all the CORRUPTION CASES brought to him where all theft.

Let me say it again. All the Corruption cases were all theft.

Answer one question. Is Embezzlement Corruption or Stealing. Choose one.

forexexpert:
A corrupt act for person gain is stealing in a way, but when GEJ was talking about stealing, He was talking about stealing of public funds.
He was talking about stealing , as it affects Nigeria's money.

A person can steal another person's wife, position or even land through corrupt means, like offering her money or paying money to the employer or paying more money to the land lord, but it is never the same thing as diverting money given to you by the federal government to build schools, roads, bridges and pay workers salaries for your own personal use.

In corruption, you spend your own money, but in stealing, you take people money for you own use.

forexexpert:
All Corruption cases are not cases of theft.

Let me ask you a question? If I give 20 Naira bribe to the Police for parking wrongly on the road, I'm I a thief?

Also, to answer your second question, Embezzlement is Pure and Unadulterated Stealing, don't even bring corruption for de matter

tola9ja:
The President is so dumb by that statement of Goat (corrupt officials/pdp) and Yam (National Treasury). He's said if you don't want Goat to eat

the yam, you pack the yams away from the goat... what! How about leave the yam and the goat while you are close by holding a stick

(EFCC/ICPC), with a stern look in your face, would the goat approach the yam? Goat being a sturbon animal like every pdp criminal will

definately try to make attempt but when you hit d goat or corrupt official with the stick (EFCC/ICPC) gbam! The goat won't come near again

and other goat/pdp criminal will learn from the punishment.

We have a President that's so dull and evil. Why worrying yourself packing truck loads of yam away because of some few Goats (Fayose,

Fani-kayode, Daizine, Ngozi, Clark, Koro, Ihejirika, Maina, Moro) etc

What a silly analogy! This President is NOT in anyway inspiring

forexexpert:
All Corruption cases are not cases of theft.

Let me ask you a question? If I give 20 Naira bribe to the Police for parking wrongly on the road, I'm I a thief?

Also, to answer your second question, Embezzlement is Pure and Unadulterated Stealing, don't even bring corruption for de matter

TheGoodJoe:
Whether you spend your own money or not, at the end, something is stolen. That means it is theft/stealing. It is impossible to commit a corrupt act without gaining something that is not deserved.

Please, Stealing is a Corrupt act. No matter how it is twisted. GEJ made a terrible mistake on live TG. No debate can make it right.

forexexpert:
Okay, if you are so sure that Stealing and Corruption are exactly the same thing then let me ask you a simple question and how you choose to answer this question will show the world how smart you are. Note, you must choose one option.

Can you live in the same room with a thief (Armed Robber) or A corrupt man (A liar and Manipulator who gives and takes bribes)

Will a school Principal accept you if you came to school with Grey school uniform, when the school specifically asked you to sew a Black school uniform

Sunnybobo3:
Proof from our criminal code Act that stealing is different from corruption.

Stealing;

forexexpert:
Okay, if you are so sure that Stealing and Corruption are exactly the same thing then let me ask you a simple question and how you choose to answer this question will show the world how smart you are. Note, you must choose one option.

Can you live in the same room with a thief (Armed Robber) or A corrupt man (A liar and Manipulator who gives and takes bribes)

Will a school Principal accept you if you came to school with Grey school uniform, when the school specifically asked you to sew a Black school uniform

TheGoodJoe:



The primary classifications of corruption include bribery, nepotism , embezzlement, fraud etc.
Embezzlement is stealing money entrusted to you.

ken2nicez:
seriously y dis writeup now? was d writer slrepin all dis while...I see no importances wit dis writeup...

forexexpert:
Classification Classification Classification ...

This is what is causing all this problem.

The moment we separate Stealing from Corruption/Bribery/Nepotism

The faster this country will be on the path of recovery.

For me, if you Steal or Embezzle public, funds, you should be treated like a common criminal full final stop

For people who give bribes and do nepotism, they should pay fines or lose their jobs and properties or positions of authority

TheGoodJoe:
I do not even understand the relevance of the question. You can not live with corruption because one way or the other, it hurts you.

You asked can I live with a robber or corrupt man?

Please, the Armed Robber is a corrupt man. He steals peoples lives and Property for Personal gain.

TheGoodJoe:
Whether you spend your own money or not, at the end, something is stolen. That means it is theft/stealing. It is impossible to commit a corrupt act without gaining something that is not deserved.

Please, Stealing is a Corrupt act. No matter how it is twisted. GEJ made a terrible mistake on live TV. No debate can make it right.

Ezemust:
not all corrupt cases involve stealing

forexexpert:
Listen to this,

Corruption and Stealing are bad. A Thief is corrupt but not as bad as a Serial killer or a Terrorist,

Saying that stealing = corruption is like saying that all Muslims are terrorists simply because they are Muslims.

There are a lot of corrupt people who are not thieves.

When you lie, you are morally corrupt, but that does not make you a thief because you can sometimes lie to protect someone you love.

All sins lead to hell but not all sins are easy to forgive, so from that angle, all sins are not equal.

Also I will never live in the same house with a thief , but I can tolerate a liar who give and takes bribes if I had to choose between the two.

forexexpert:
Listen to this,

Corruption and Stealing are bad. A Thief is corrupt but not as bad as a Serial killer or a Terrorist,

Saying that stealing = corruption is like saying that all Muslims are terrorists simply because they are Muslims.

There are a lot of corrupt people who are not thieves.

When you lie, you are morally corrupt, but that does not make you a thief because you can sometimes lie to protect someone you love.

All sins lead to hell but not all sins are easy to forgive, so from that angle, all sins are not equal.

Also I will never live in the same house with a thief , but I can tolerate a liar who give and takes bribes if I had to choose between the two.

TheGoodJoe:
That does not stop stealing from being a corrupt Act.

forexexpert:
So, how do you punish a case of stealing and a case of corruption (if you can explain what corruption really means)

Is it not better to separate corruption into Bribery, Nepotism, Lying, Cheating and punish them with lesser sentences, while you punish stealing with the maximum sentence.

bettercreature:
Corruption is differ from stealing,you might be very corrupt without personal gain e.g adultry,while stealing simply mean taken anything that is not belong to you For your personal interest Or take another person's property without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

MalcoImX:
For that little time you had with somebody's wife, that to me is stealing the wife or something valuable belonging to the husband - for your personal interest, without permission and have initiated the process of appropriation.

TheGoodJoe:


All Corrupt Cases brought to the Judge by EFCC involves Theft/Stealing (What GEJ Pointed from the judge.)

All Corrupt Cases involves a dishonest Act for Personal gain.

TheGoodJoe:


This logic can be equated to every corrupt case which shows dishonesty to gain what is not deserved and shows someone steals from someone in every corrupt scenario.

TheGoodJoe:
Stop dribbling around the point.

Answer yes or no. Is Stealing A Corrupt Act?

Ezemust:
gej said to the judge:you brought me cases of theft not corruption.and then went further to national tv to state that stealing is not always corruption.pls i want to ask u a question.DO U BELEIVE THAT STEALING IS IN ANY FORM DIFFERENT FROM CORRUPTION?

forexexpert:

The first case is pure stealing (An offense against the law.), the second case is pure corruption + a lesser case of stealing than I can never be charged with because It was purely legal in this case.

TheGoodJoe:
EFCC brought Corrupt Cases to the Judge, I think Judge Mustapha. He said this are Theft Cases. Which shows, the Cases EFCC considered Corruption where also theft.

You can not commit a financial crime without Theft. That is what the Judge was saying. He did not say the cases were not corruption cases.

I repeat, Corruption = Dishonest act for Personal gain.

Answer this question, Is stealing a dishonest act for Personal gain?

forexexpert:
Look at it this way, if you were my relative, and I know you as an impulsive person who will get into trouble if I told you the truth about something, so I decided to lie to you (corruption) and as a result of this lie, I ended up saving your life. who gained from this corruption, me or you?