eleojo23:

Mr. Firefire, why you come dey challenge me na? (Damn it, I was taking a nap and your mention of my moniker woke me up)

Truth is, you don't expect the OP to say that Jonathan is responsible. Don't you know him again?
My own point is, let the refineries work first and let's feel the impact. I bet most people are not interested in who did it, all they want is to feel the impact on their fuel expenses.

Whynotthetruth:


What point are there to counter

The stupidddd and bigoted passingshot showed evidence of project initiation by Jonathan... evidence of project financing by Jonathan...with discrepancy in date of delivery...

Now the contractor delivered before date of forecast instead of being happy and sincerely ascribing praise to the right man...he's foaming through the mouth...I wanted to see him show a SINGLE evidence linking Buhari to the TAM of those refineries but alas NONE...yet he thinks in his deluded and schizophrenic mind that Jonathan isn't the architect of all these...

Now compare this to reduced subsidy fund in 2015 budget and it will show you that Jonathan has already planned and incorporated all those in...

philips70:


Jonathan was never fooled. We are talking about a PhD holder who has worked in OMPADEC as a director here. He was head, neck and shoulders involved in whatever scam in NNPC. We are not fools! As we speak lots of management staff of NNPC have resigned and ran away. This is confirmed gists.

kaboninc:


They shot themselves......

ECOTERRORS:
you are a bloody liar, please answer this questions.

how long does it take for TAM to happen bearing in mind that Daura President has spent less than 4wks on seat

Has the president constitute his cabinet?

How many days have the president stayed in the country since his inauguration?

eleojo23:
Whether it is GEJ or Buhari that is responsible, all of that is just for political discussion and arguments.

What matters to Nigerians is that the refineries will finally start working and they get to spend less on fuel. Period.

Those who have the time can go ahead and engage in arguments and debate on the issue.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:


Please tell Nigerians how Jonathan and his economic team would have managed N149b i 2015 budget without functional refineries?

warripekin:
Buhari indeed. How could he have done it. Pls stop deluding ur self. The dauradullard is not ready and is not willing. Nigeria is running on autopilot since may 29.

Firefire:


My brother, so sorry, I meant to actually quote PassingShot.

PassingShot over to you: https://www.nairaland.com/2392387/buhari-not-jonathan-responsible-refineries/4#34957675

kaboninc:


Another alternate for jpphilips?

CSTR2:
Idiott.
On one hand it is too early for buhari to stem the tides of bokoharam, yet it is not too early for buhari to claim another man's labours.
Replying to your thread beyond this would be a very stupidd thing to do.
Enjoy your self-delusion with your likes.
Bye.

Imokay:


Can't you see the angle the OP is taking? it is so simple nah, the refinery required to TAM at least by the end of last year.
It seems no contract was awarded and no payment was made since the last announcement by NNPC in February 2015, yet the refineries, all 4 are st to work by July. From other reports it seems the refinery were simply denied crude oil thus the units are mothballed.

I suspect they had no plans to meet even the 2016 date, as they will come with another story if Jonathan was still in power

PassingShot:

If you read my conclusion part, you'd realized I answered this question.

Whynotthetruth:


Because of funding challenge, they spread same funding over 18months...

Why not go back and count same from that month and see how logical you're...

Then also show me an evidence where buhari either paid, or approved or initiated anything towards these refineries...

Fashola who you worship has delivery date of June 2013 for his rail...check today's date and tell me the state of the project and whereabouts of billion dollar loan borrowed for same...

Should we vilify or thank Jonathan for having his contractors deliver earlier that scheduled

philips70:


I believe am the only one in this politics section who has never registered an alternate moniker and who has maintained just one account since registration in Dec 2009. To do what with?

Imokay:


Can't you see the angle the OP is taking? it is so simple nah, the refinery required to TAM at least by the end of last year.
It seems no contract was awarded and no payment was made since the last announcement by NNPC in February 2015, yet the refineries, all 4 are st to work by July. From other reports it seems the refinery were simply denied crude oil thus the units are mothballed.

I suspect they had no plans to meet even the 2016 date, as they will come with another story if Jonathan was still in power

Whynotthetruth:


Yes...and that's same mistake passingshot, 1Stola and other folks who take partisanship beyond reasonable and decent cadre are making...because all they fought against will come to hurt and hunt them now...

They will see how easy it is to tear down as opposition than to build as a leader...journey just begun...You can win election through lies and propaganda but cannot sustain governance through same because your past will always hunt you

PassingShot:
Before March 28, 2015 Elections:

6. Feb 2015 - Nigerian Engineers to Repair Refineries for N99bn –NNPC
The Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation on Wednesday said it had engaged the services of in-house engineers to rehabilitate the country’s three ailing refineries at a cost of $550m (N99bn), down from the $1.6bn (N288bn) presented to it by foreign contractors.
The refineries are the Port Harcourt Refining Company, Kaduna Refining and Petrochemical Company Limited and the Warri Refining and Petrochemical Company Limited.

The Group Executive Director, Refining and Petrochemicals, NNPC, Mr. Ian Udoh, stated that the corporation resolved to use indigenous engineers because it could not pay the bills of foreign contractors who were nominated by the original builders of the refineries.
http://www.punchng.com/business/business-economy/nigerian-engineers-to-repair-refineries-for-n99bn-nnpc/


Still in March 2015:

7. March 2015 – NNPC to repair refineries with $550m
The Turn Around Maintenance (TAM) of the nation’s refineries will cost $550million, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) said yesterday. The corporation blamed the TAM’s delay on the refusal of the original builders of the four refineries to handle the maintenance contracts.
There are two refineries in Port Harcourt, one in Kaduna and another in Warri. They are all working below capacity, unable to meet the consumption demands of Nigerians. http://thenationonlineng.net/new/nnpc-to-repair-refineries-with-550m/

8. As recent as March 6, 2015 - Refineries’ll be back on stream 2016 –NNPC
Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, NNPC, yesterday assured that the nation’s four refineries would be fully back on stream in the first quarter of 2016. The corporation also explained why the refineries have not been working optimally, disclosing that NNPC could not afford to pay the outrageous charges of its builders.

The corporation’s Coordinator, Corporate Planning and Strategy, Dr. Tim Okon, disclosed these while updating members of the Senate Committee on Petroleum (Downstream) on activities of the refineries.
http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/refineriesll-be-back-on-stream-2016-nnpc/
June 18, 2015 - Nigeria’s refineries to resume production next month
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/06/nigerias-refineries-to-resume-production-next-month-official/


Going by the stated sequence of events in our refineries as given by NNPC, is there any link or development in the time past to warrant getting the latest news that our refineries will resume production in July?

The spokesman, Ohi Alegbe, stated that “the operations resume after a successful turn-around-maintenance (overhaul) of their facilities” but they didn’t just want to make noise about it! Who is fooling who?

Let GEJ’s supporters help us answer the following questions?
1. When has TAM of plants become an action conducted in secrecy?
2. When was the TAM awarded and to which company?
3. If local engineers were used, who paid the N99bn that was reported to be needed as recent as last February?

Conclusion
I am of the strong opinion that GEJ was completely fooled not only by Diezani and her cohorts but also by the sycophants he surrounded himself with. The man must surely be biting his fingers wherever he is currently. In not making our refineries work, the oil cabals saw a huge avenue to corruptly enrich themselves and they seized the opportunity through oil subsidies.

It is not unknown what PMB’s stand on fuel subsidy is. He has consistently maintained that the oil subsidy was a fraud and that he would look into why our refineries have not worked. PMB recently rubbished the fuel subsidy scam when he said “I don’t know what fuel subsidy means” - http://dailytrust.com.ng/sunday/index.php/top-stories/20804-i-don-t-know-what-fuel-subsidy-means-buhari.

The president has also been reported to be set to probe NNPC N30trn unaccounted oil revenue under Jonathan - http://www.nationaldailyng.com/news/latest-news/4116-buhari-set-to-probe-nnpc-n30trn-unaccounted-oil-revenue-under-jonathan

The fact of the matter is that, NNPC’s top shots are aware of what PMB knows. They know him to know the workings of NNPC and our refineries having been a petroleum minister and a former Head of State. As such, it is reasonable to expect the corporation (NNPC) to act differently with him than what they did with GEJ.

The famous quote by Abraham Lincoln is very apt here:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”


I therefore challenge any of GEJ's supporters and sympathizers to prove otherwise.

PassingShot:

Did you read the conclusion part where I stated PMB's resolve to probe NNPC? His non-recognition of the subsidy? Please read it again.

atlwireles:

OLADIMEHJI:

Didn't you read the part when they were screaming that there would be removal of the whole subsidy by July 1st this year? and we were all amazed when we saw that they still include it in this year budget. Every sane Nigerians know that PDP regime was a big time scam.
Obasanjo nearly sold Nigeria in the name of privatisation. He sold the house of reps. lodge and we later changed it into allowances, do you know how much we have been losing in that aspect in business terms.
In 2011, the budget for subsidy was only 200+ billion naira which later turn into 2. Trillion naira. So if you must have been conversant with the turn of things in this country you should have known that it's not about how much they budgeted but the extent at which they can have their way

President of the Senate, David Mark

Senate rejects recommendation of its Committee on Finance, which asked the Federal Government to remove the   subsidy on petroleum products.

“If subsidy has to be removed, there must be public enlightenment and education so that facts would be made available to the people and then public opinion at the end of the day will count.

“If we sit here now and said remove subsidy, I think those who are benefitting from subsidy are very powerful and tomorrow they would influence media report and twist it to create an impression that the Senate is anti-people,” President of the Senate said in his remarks after the Senate had rejected the proposal for subsidy removal.

The finance committee had recommended the removal of subsidy on fuel because of the alleged misapplication of the billions of dollars being voted annually for that purpose.

The Senate rejected the recommendation while adopting the report of the Senator Ahmed Makarfi led committee.

The senators however approved the committee’s recommendation that the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation should refund to the Federation Account, the total sum of $218,069,354.32, being the balance of the gross lifting under the third party financing.

They also directed that inter-agencies reconciliation meetings between government institutions, including the Ministry of Finance, NNPC, CBN and the Federal Inland Revenue Service should be done on a regular basis.

It said such regular meetings among those sensitive economic institutions would prevent a recurrence of the situation and ensure that all revenues were properly and legally accounted for.

The Senate rejected the committee proposal to accept the N813.8bn subsidy deductions by the NNPC from January 2012 to July 2013, since it was certified by the Petroleum Products Pricing and Regulatory Agency and appropriated by the National Assembly.

It however accepted the subsidy deducted by the NNPC in the sum of N180bn for the fourth quarter of 2011, which was also certified by the PPPRA and appropriated by the National Assembly.

It advised the NNPC not pay its operational expenditures directly from the Federation Fund without appropriation by the National Assembly, saying the government oil corporation should strictly adhere to international best practises in keeping records.

taharqa:


So it was PMB's resolve, let's call it 'threat' to probe NNPC that got the refineries replied in 3 weeks??

I don't get it? Plzzz, help me "understand"

Whynotthetruth:


Go back and read to see that February reportage was mere statement of past event...he was simply reiterating the point that they have already outsourced the TAM to local engineers already and not that they are about to...

The Coordinator, Corporate Planning, and Strategy of the NNPC, Dr. Tim Okon, told the Senate Committee on Petroleum Resources (Downstream), in Abuja while defending the budget proposal of the corporation, that the NNPC had worked out an alternative local arrangement that would enable it refine about 400,000 barrels of crude oil daily after the completion of ongoing rehabilitation.

“The exercise which started in October last year is for a period of 18 months and it will be completed in the first quarter of next year.

“The expenditure of $16million a month had been reduced to an average of $10million a month per a refinery.

“By the first quarter of next year, all the refineries will be functioning optimally and we would be able to refine an average of 400,000 barrels of crude oil per day for local consumption.

OLADIMEHJI:

Didn't you read the part when they were screaming that there would be removal of the whole subsidy by July 1st this year? and we were all amazed when we saw that they still include it in this year budget. Every sane Nigerians know that PDP regime was a big time scam.
Obasanjo nearly sold Nigeria in the name of privatisation. He sold the house of reps. lodge and we later changed it into allowances, do you know how much we have been losing in that aspect in business terms.
In 2011, the budget for subsidy was only 200+ billion naira which later turn into 2. Trillion naira. So if you must have been conversant with the turn of things in this country you should have known that it's not about how much they budgeted but the extent at which they can have their way

Imokay:


Funding challenge for FG to find 99Bn? very funny, when they can sell bond or treasury bills of over 150 Bn in a few days and use the money to repair the refineries save over 1 Trllion subsidy and create more employment and tax revenue. Yet TANoikds can say the FG has funding challenge, i wonder what should be a priority if not this.

tunde1200:
Really?
I can't believe it bro.
But I knew he was not a bad person its the psycophants around him.

taharqa:


So it was PMB's resolve, let's call it 'threat', to probe NNPC that got the refineries REPAIRED in 3 weeks??

I don't get it? Plzzz, help me "understand"