daveP:
Right glad I'm I that our brain frequencies, wavelengths now are at par on what my aim what.


Tell me how else this isn't a way to prove he is world class.


Le prof just called Cech, Ospina and Emiliano Martinez, his trio of GKs, world class. Well since this is a stretch of a discussion, I'll allow to rest and appreciate Ndidi's screamer.



Tell Ahmed Musa to wake up. He is proving he isn't world class

Joebie:
my brother check Yaya Toure's stats

https://www.premierleague.com/players/4148/Yaya-Tour%C3%A9/stats

chrisooblog:
to be fair that optimism is not totally misplaced. man for man as at this present moment nigeria has better players than cameroon in most positions based on the prestige of the clubs our players are in right now but yes individual talent maketh not a team that said if senegal had been more clinical in front of goal we won't be having this conversation

irrefragable:
you don't need to show me his stats. This player won 4 APOTY when our own mikel couldn't even manage to get one

This player singlehandedly won matches for man city when our own mikel is been brought in on second half to 'pack the bus'
This player would rather leave a club than seat on the bench our mikel will gladly sit on the bench even accept pay cut in chelsea just because he wants to stay up to the required number of years that will make him eligible for a uk visa.

Right now our mikel doesn't know if he's a defensive midfielder or an attacking midfielder, playing defensive for club and attacking for national team. Like seriously, who does that?

Other defensive midfielders plays the role well and even pushes attack sometimes scoring our mikel only knows how to lock the defense and even dulls the attack

Someone said mikel has a high pass accuracy. I ask, which pass accuracy? is it the one he always passes the ball back to defenders or to keeper.

And that's the person one supernerd and co calls world class. I've always said Nigerians glorify what's a bit above average. If you say the truth they'll all attack you because mikel is a nigerian and they are Nigerians.

World-class players power their team to victory when it matters most check out players like Ronaldinho, de lima, Drogba and the rest. These are players that can never be benched by any team in the world.

Someone was saying if mikel had played for a team like Barcelona..... Like seriously? Barcelona can never contract a DM like mikel because they are an attacking team and mikel is a defensive player. Only team like chelsea that needs to park the bus from time to time will contract him. If you tell them this they will call you a mikel hater.

I can go on and on but I'm tired of typing already let me just stop here.

irrefragable:
you don't need to show me his stats. This player won 4 APOTY when our own mikel couldn't even manage to get one

This player singlehandedly won matches for man city when our own mikel is been brought in on second half to 'pack the bus'
This player would rather leave a club than seat on the bench our mikel will gladly sit on the bench even accept pay cut in chelsea just because he wants to stay up to the required number of years that will make him eligible for a uk visa.

Right now our mikel doesn't know if he's a defensive midfielder or an attacking midfielder, playing defensive for club and attacking for national team. Like seriously, who does that?

Other defensive midfielders plays the role well and even pushes attack sometimes scoring our mikel only knows how to lock the defense and even dulls the attack

Someone said mikel has a high pass accuracy. I ask, which pass accuracy? is it the one he always passes the ball back to defenders or to keeper.

And that's the person one supernerd and co calls world class. I've always said Nigerians glorify what's a bit above average. If you say the truth they'll all attack you because mikel is a nigerian and they are Nigerians.

World-class players power their team to victory when it matters most check out players like Ronaldinho, de lima, Drogba and the rest. These are players that can never be benched by any team in the world.

Someone was saying if mikel had played for a team like Barcelona..... Like seriously? Barcelona can never contract a DM like mikel because they are an attacking team and mikel is a defensive player. Only team like chelsea that needs to park the bus from time to time will contract him. If you tell them this they will call you a mikel hater.

I can go on and on but I'm tired of typing already let me just stop here.

TheSuperNerd:
When you spoke earlier, you said, you don't like to argue much....

Going against your code huh?? I see...

Ah well.... Firstly, you made so many assumptions when you walked in here.... You quoted my reply to you and started spilling about me among the people who say cameroun will be a cake-walk and that Cameroun is weak or so..... Berra fix that.


About Mikel.... All your epistles changes NOTHING. SO JUST REST....

Do you know more than Guus Hiddink? Or Roberto di matteo? Or Iniesta? Do you?

TheSuperNerd:
Good one there Sir Terzurum5....

Remember I spoke about this on the previous Super Eagles thread before we started this Dawn of a new era thread.

I said we will witness different metamorphosis stages of our darling team as Post-Russia 2018 will lead to Afcon 2019, Afcon 2021 and Qatar 2022 and beyond (and each event must have their unique threads so that we keep things about out team well organised and well documented in this section for future references for upcoming generations).

I think we have two options:

1). Modify the topic slightly to include "Afcon 2019" as the afcon 2019 journey begins soon this year with the qualifiers

After which, post-Russia we create a brand new thread for the Afcon 2019 exclusively. After which more threads follow.

2). Create the Afcon 2019 thread "now" strictly for just nations cup news with respect to the Super Eagles as Russia 2018 marks our super eagles new generation "baptism of fire" on the international stage while Afcon 2019 which comes after Russia 2018 represents how far the team have matured in its quest to rule Africa for the next couple of years.


Either way, we must be out to organise the archival threads here on NL sports. That should be our goal so as not to cluster the information all into just one place.

As usual the final decisions rest with the elders and Super OPs::::


Cc: Sirs Tbaba1234, Icon4s, Joseph1013, Terzurum5, Orkpekyandega, TheGoodJoe BascoVanVeli, Chrisooblog, Napoleaon55, Icon79, AIG07, Mikron, Blackalbino06, NLban, Justiz5, Goldfish80, Kog45, LazyErudite, Chriskels, Mickael2, Edi287, Komekn, Forgiveness, etc....

Madams Safarigirl, Confun et al....

Over to you all...

http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/9/english-football/2009/07/24/1401153/john-obi-mikel-will-be-the-playmaker-for-chelsea-carlo

According to Jose Mourinho, Mikel is 'a genius in his position', to the extent it is 'a miracle if he loses the ball'. The Portuguese, who signed the Nigerian seven-and-a-half years ago and is now managing him again, is not alone when it comes to those who have sung Mikel's praises since he moved to west London.

Luiz Felipe Scolari said 'he belongs in the
position'. Carlo Ancelotti likened Mikel's style to his own, a compliment not to be taken lightly
considering the Italian's own glittering playing
career.

Ray Wilkins, a lieutenant of both Ancelotti's and Guus Hiddink's before that, and an exceptional former midfielder himself, hailed Mikel as a player who 'reads the game exceptionally
well, is as strong as an ox and has a lovely range of passing'.

Andre Villas-Boas admired his 'amazing mental toughness' when he played on despite the abduction of his father in Nigeria, and, following our epic run to the Champions League final in 2012, Roberto Di Matteo stressed the significance of the 'vital' role he played throughout the latter stages of that glorious
European campaign, highlighting disciplined
defensive performances against Barcelona and
Bayern Munich.

princesuko:


Di matteo . Stop Mentioning Iniesta Please , the quote has been debunked as fake.

mikron:
no 1 is in order

TheSuperNerd:
Sir Mikron... It is now you show up? Loolll... Trust you are doing great.

mikron:
brotherly i gallant o, hw have u been? im good. just been so busy with work these days

TheSuperNerd:
Carry on Sir. I understand. For me, it's both work and studies (as usual). I'm good too Nice hearing from you again. Stay blessed.

princesuko:





Why we are at it then, Hagreaeves won the PL and UCL with Man United is he a world Class Player?

TheGoodJoe:


Did Owen Hargreaves play at a top level for a long period of time?

TheSuperNerd:
It is not fake.... But let's say it is. In fact, let's forget iniesta....

But dispute the words of Carlo Ancelloti... A far greater figure in the game than Iniesta.

zicky:
you guys can be funny, too much EPL is affecting some, if Kante is world class Matuidi is what. Outside EPL where have Kante performed champions league, euros or world cup.

princesuko:


What do you expect a Players Manager to say? If Mikel was that good why didn't Ancelloti take him to Madrid and Psg?

KevinDein:
kante is a different player to Matuidi. And yep, Kante did very well at the Euros.

princesuko:


He Was a top Player at Bayern before moving to Manchester. Won the UCL with Bayern and Manchester but that doesn't make him World Class.

irrefragable:
you don't need to show me his stats. This player won 4 APOTY when our own mikel couldn't even manage to get one

This player singlehandedly won matches for man city when our own mikel is been brought in on second half to 'pack the bus'
This player would rather leave a club than seat on the bench our mikel will gladly sit on the bench even accept pay cut in chelsea just because he wants to stay up to the required number of years that will make him eligible for a uk visa.

Right now our mikel doesn't know if he's a defensive midfielder or an attacking midfielder, playing defensive for club and attacking for national team. Like seriously, who does that?

Other defensive midfielders plays the role well and even pushes attack sometimes scoring our mikel only knows how to lock the defense and even dulls the attack

Someone said mikel has a high pass accuracy. I ask, which pass accuracy? is it the one he always passes the ball back to defenders or to keeper.

And that's the person one supernerd and co calls world class. I've always said Nigerians glorify what's a bit above average. If you say the truth they'll all attack you because mikel is a nigerian and they are Nigerians.

World-class players power their team to victory when it matters most check out players like Ronaldinho, de lima, Drogba and the rest. These are players that can never be benched by any team in the world.

Someone was saying if mikel had played for a team like Barcelona..... Like seriously? Barcelona can never contract a DM like mikel because they are an attacking team and mikel is a defensive player. Only team like chelsea that needs to park the bus from time to time will contract him. If you tell them this they will call you a mikel hater.

I can go on and on but I'm tired of typing already let me just stop here.

forgiveness:
Yesterday, I saw the reply of Everton match against Jordan Ibe's club and I had the time to assess Ademola-lookman and Jordan Ibe.

Ademola-lookman started while Jordan Ibe came on in the second half.

From my assessment of lookman's play, he seems to be another Jay Jay Okocha. I hope una understand wetin I mean. He is very skilful and has a very good ball control but he is not direct, he is not good at marking, in short he doesn't know how to mark or defend and it seems he is shy away from the ball. I mean he doesn't seem to want the ball. Although, whenever he has the ball he makes unbelievable moves and he can shoot from long range.


My conclusion is that lookman could go places if he can add some parts to his game. Of course, he will definitely learn these things if he is giving game time to improve himself.

This lad must be capped by us before it's too late because I am seeing another Dele Alli in that guy.

However, Jordan Ibe is very direct and he doesn't shy away from the ball. He is full of running and he loves to give through passes. I hope we forgive him and give another chance to play for us.

goldfish80:


To be honest, I haven't seen Ademola play so I can't give an assessment of his game. As for Jordan Ibe, no doubt he is a talent. People forget Bournemouth paid a club record fee to sign him from Liverpool at just 20. He has a high celine no matter what his situation is currently. He's a lot like Wilfred Zaha, hopefully the Nff puts an arm round his shoulders.

princesuko:





Why we are at it then, Hagreaeves won the PL and UCL with Man United is he a world Class Player?

irrefragable:
you saw where I stated that even if Cameroon hadn't qualified from the group stage they will still be a tough nut to crack.

Now let me tell you, 2006 afcon Nigeria had more quality players than Ivory Coast but we lost to them. Kalou broke into our defense dribbled about 4 defenders and scored.

2013 afcon Ivory Coast had more quality players but Nigeria defeated them. So what does that tell you........

You must know that Cameroon might get defeated by all the teams in the world but once they see Nigeria that's when they remember that they do have a pride to protect, that's when they come out with all the power and determination they can muster in the world. It has happened before, it will happen again.
That game is 50-50

goldfish80:

Here we have a log jam. Okocha winning the Afcon didn't make him the player he was. Most people who rate Okocha didn't even watch that Afcon. Winning the Afcon didn't make him the player he was.

This issue could drag on for days and the argument can be relative because there are so many legends in the Premier league for example who attained legendary status with their modest clubs just because they guided the club through the murky relegation waters. A player like Juninho Paulista identifies more with his Middlesbrough heroics than winning the world cup as a bench boy, playing second fiddle to Rivaldo.

You also have players like Canizarez, Reycoba, Mendieta, Riquelme, Ayala, Montella, Batistuta Etall who had respectable careers but little trophies to show for it.