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Igbos Abandoned Philip Effiong Who Died A Biafra Rebel, Ojukwu Rewarded - Ekefre / Buhari, Yahaya Bello, Ikpeazu & Others Honored At Daily Times 91st Anniversary / Ipob Replies Obong Attah : You Are Clueless,remember Philip Effiong (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Baltazarcus(m): 5:07pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
oglalasioux: hahahahahhahaha bro neither Napoleon nor Hitler lost the war to Britain , they lost because of the failed invasion of Russia, go and check ur history, the british only captalised from their lost and form alliance from other europeans to consolidate their victory. has the British ever won a major war single handedly ? they always seek and form alliances. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by giftedben: 5:07pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
OJUcrook: Afonjass and lies be like 5 & 6. Just like wole soyinka and his mouth action. 1 Like
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Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:13pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
LorDBolton: Trash. Biafran forces couldn't hold unto the Midwest because: 1. Holding unto the Midwest was never the plan. The plan was to launch a surprise attack through the Midwest to capture Lagos and decapitate Nigerian military headquarters anchored there. Ojukwu naively believed that the Arewa military was headquartered in Lagos against the Afonja's wish. This also could explain why he handed such a crucial mission in the war, to an Afonja soldier to lead. If only he knew better... 2. There was never a way Biafran soldiers could have held unto Midwest. They had not the numbers nor the weapons to defend the entire territory without exposing the Eastern region. They would be spread too thin. The logical decision was to return back to the East, once the Lagos mission failed after Banjo compromised the mission. None of this had anything to do with the trash you were reeling out there. Biafrans were better soldiers than Nigerians,they made use of whatever advantage they had to accomplish their goals. In the end though, lack of weapons on the Biafran side and abundant of such on the Nigerian side, decided the war. 4 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Baltazarcus(m): 5:14pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
Victorvexz: you speak of hitler as if you have read all accounts of him and the ww2. know this , hitler never committed suicide in the bunker , what was found dead on the bunker ie the charred remains of Hitler and Eva braun was their double , the main Hitler and Eva braun fled to Argentina, As comfirmed by Joseph Stalin , the Soviet dictator |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by oglalasioux(m): 5:15pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
pazienza: How can you agree that Ojukwu made mistakes in executing the war and still call me ignorant on the issue? We love Ojukwu for his courage and pan Igbonism but he executed the war poorly. How many books have you read on the war? What researches have you done on your own? Ojukwu should have known better than to undermine the advice of the non Igbo speaking areas especially his fall out with Okoi Arikpo and Zik. You can't be 33 years old and disregard the advice of 50 year olds. That was where Ojukwu started fucking up. He executed the war poorly. That's the bitter truth. As for comparing him with Hitler and Napoleon, you only have to understand the mathematics of war to know why Ojukwu bleeped up. 5 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by LorDBolton(m): 5:16pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
pazienza: No offence but your retort Is puerile. If a gibbon could write it'd give a better retort I had a good laugh reading it tho. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:17pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
Baltazarcus: Many Nazis fled to Argentina when Nazi Germany fell to the allied forces. It's possible Hitler was among them. But nobody is really sure. 2 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:23pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
oglalasioux: What are you speaking of? When someone loses, there are always mistakes to be pointed at. But if he wins, most mistakes are forgotten. Ojukwu made mistakes, but they were honest ones. How exactly did Ojukwu undermine the advice of Eastern minorities? When he had men like Akpan, Kogbara, Opigo, kings of Bakana, Ekpeye, etc with him through out the whole journey. And some of these kings even chose to abdicate their throne than betray Ojukwu and Biafra when their region fell to the federal forces. Ojukwu was always open to UN supervised plebiscite in the non Igbo areas of Biafra throughout the war period, cos he was confident of the outcome of such plebiscite. We had Eastern consultative assembly. It's normal for people to now come and talk trash about Biafra and Ojukwu, because he lost, but we will not accept history revisionism aimed at tarnishing his image. Never! 7 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:24pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
LorDBolton: Go on! Keep on laughing at your own folly. Like I care. 2 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by laudate: 5:24pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
Hehehe.... wey my mat, my popcorn and my malt drink? Na on top this thread I go match brake today. Nothing wey person no go see for here. Biafran soldiers did not want to hold on to the Mid-West .... hehehe.... yet they appointed a military administrator for them, and even renamed the whole area. I love this tales by moonlight! Wonders shall never end! cc: EdCure, PenSniper, Mulattoclaro, LordBolton, T8ksy, rusher14, BornStunner1, KingOvoramwen1, martineverest, donphilopus, freemanbubble, osezua, jpphilips, basingstoke, Ivory2009, macof 4 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by berrystunn(m): 5:26pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
BjDreamchaser: I wish we can have a meeting point anywhere in the world... Big cities like, Paris, new York, London, Singapore, Japan.... Its will be a good start to prove, what you cleam to be.... Choose time and date. Call it a weekend trip... |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by LorDBolton(m): 5:30pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
pazienza: I will appreciate u don't quote me again bruv I know brainwashed people when I interact with them and you're certainly one of them . First u don't know the initial reason for the mid west invasion... Second u got no clue why the MW was easily taken... Third u have no clue about the impossibility of the lagos mission & why banjo needed the MW to join the biafran cause something ojukwu fcked up by naming an igbo man president. Third u know nothing about difference between attack n defence in fact I just dey laugh for here. If ur I.Q can't better a gibbon then how can I relate with u? Pls I use ojukwu beg u never quote me again. Find a congress to relate with 5 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Victorvexz(m): 5:31pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
Baltazarcus:Google is ur friend. Read!!! |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:31pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
T8ksy: And who foisted Ejoor on mid west? Was he an elected officer? The last democratic leader of Midwest before the break of hostilities was an Anioma son by the name, Dennis Osadebey. The man Ojukwu used to replace Ejoor was also an Anioma son, who was many times more qualified than Ejoor to lead the region. 2 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by LorDBolton(m): 5:36pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
laudate: Do u mind that Very dull guy. They tried tooth-and-nail to kill ejoor Infact he's as stupid as the ojukwu whose blunder opened up the "neutral" Midwest to FG who now launched decisive actions from there against biafran forces who were blowing up every bridge while retreating. Thieves who looted the city and CBN Azzin i'm perturbed that guy could be soo dull 4 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Arch1: 5:37pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
laudate:Boss Man, Can you please recommend me books about the Biafra war. Those written by both foreign and local authors. Thanks |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by laudate: 5:38pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
LorDBolton: They guy has a Ph.d when it comes to turning logic on its' head. 3 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:40pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
LorDBolton: Trash! Before Ejoor was foisted on Mid west as a military leader, was an Ibo man by the name Osadebey from Asaba not the premier of the Midwest? Are you saying that it's acceptable for a democratically elected premier Of Anioma origin to be replaced by non Igbo military officer, but bad for this same non Igbo military officer to be replaced by an Igbo one? You are not funny. Banjo didn't need Midwest joining him. He needed to carry out Lagos invasion as fast as possible as the success of the mission depended on "element of surprise", which Banjo threw away after discussing at length with his Afonja people. Midwest was invaded because it was the closest route from the East to Lagos. Nothing more and nothing less. Keep laughing at your folly. Leave Ojukwu alone, you have no respect for him or his legacy. Stop the pretence already and join your Afonja brothers. 2 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by oglalasioux(m): 5:41pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
Baltazarcus: Napoleon withdrew from Russia but lost outrightly to England. That I'm sure of. England played a major role in German loss in Russia. They forged the intelligence report that made Hitler invade Russia and Japan bomb Pearl Harbour. It was England that won ww2. Believe it or not. 2 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by LorDBolton(m): 5:56pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
laudate: He gives stupidity a whole new meaning I can't quote such a character. It is because of this stupidity Till today pro-biafran igbos don't know why they lost the war. He says ejoor was forced on THE MW but didn't say ojukwu was forced on the eastern region as military administrator too after the same coup o Don't engage people like him 7 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Princedapace(m): 5:56pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
Alariwo2: If only u can fight for one minute...I will listen to u.. U think sey war na for mouth... My brother...I appreciate the guy for fighting at least... We the present Nigerian youths are the real cowards... Politicians oppress us with corruption and loot us dry and u and I can't even speak.. We are the real cowards...not men who lived to fight bloody war for 3 years.. I'm sure if u hear bomb now, u go denounce ur religion sef 1 Like |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Jaymaestro(m): 6:10pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
oglalasioux:I am only curious but how did England win wwII? I read US entry changed the war with historical facts. In fact, WWll saw the change in world power from France and Britain Empire to US and then Soviet Union. |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by laudate: 6:11pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
Arch1: Well, I will try to recommend a few. There are many perspectives of the war, because there were many participants in that war. War is not pretty. And there are always casualties, on all sides. Different books on the events that took place at that time need to be read along with other accounts of the Civil War, in order to compare the different perspectives so that readers can draw their own conclusions. Some of the books listed below are independent accounts of the war. Please read the following:
According to Nigerian scholars in 2011, over 69 books and pamphlets, 53 government publications, 3 bibliographies and various theses have been published on the 30 month long Nigerian Civil War that took place between 1967 and 1970. In the US, over 2,000 books were written about their own civil war. So there is still a need to write more. People need to tell their stories about what happened during the war, because in the words of Chimamanda Adichie "we all remember differently." 3 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by gidgiddy: 6:21pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
LorDBolton: I never said Ojukwu fled so that there would be peace, I said that his leaving ensured there was a peacefull end to the war. Besides, Ojukwu had been briefed that the center could no longer hold and the end was near. There was no other point but to exit. Saddam and Gaddafi both fled like Ojukwu, the only difference was that Ojukwu was the wise one who got away while the other two left it too late and were surrounded. Both men were caught as they tried to flee. Both paid with their lives. Only a very stupid Soldier sees that then end is near and stays to die while he has an escape route. #2- the governor of the east(ojukwu) declared independence, thus he declared war...or did u expect naija to say Ok? Reannexation was the normal course of action. Why did Ojukwu secede? Do you know that Ojukwu at first ignored the wishes of his people to pull the Eastern Region out of Nigeria and went to Ghana to sign a peace deal with Gowon so that there would be 'one Nigeria'? What did you expect Ojukwu to do when Gowon broke that agreement? There were only two choices left to Ojukwu, bow down and submit his people to Northern controlled Nigeria or declare independence and fight for freedom. Everybody else chose the former out of their fear of the North, only Ojukwu was brave enough to choose the later. It is a courageous man who fights for his freedom, it is a coward who accepts slavery without putting up a fight [#3- do u dispute the fact his kids were well fed during the war? Or that he executed ifejauna ( a man with more credibility than him) and banjo who tried negotiating a surrender earlier? (thus ojukwu prolonged the war). Yet still fled! I dont know about Ojukwus kids being well fed during the war, it wasnt Ojukwu who was starving people. It was Nigeria that blockaded Biafra and used starvation as an instrument of war. Today, that method is recognised as a war crime in the ICC. How was Ifeajuna more qualified than Ojukwu? Why did Ojukwu execute Ifeajuna? Ifeajuna was just a common coup plotter who tried to remove Ojukwu as head of state and Ojukwu had him arrested, tried and executed. #4-. If he had any self respect he wouldn't have contested those elections, he would have quietly and honorably sit back but NO he still wanted power. When Ojukwu was a Biafran, you people were against him. When he returned from exile, accepted 'one Nigeria' and exercised his constitutional right to seek elective office, you were against him. If you people didnt like him contesting elections in Nigeria then you people should have supported him to have his Biafra were he could contest. You cant push a person down and at the same time take away the ground where they will fall. Ojukwu did not fight to be a Nigerian hero, he fought to be a hero of his people and lovers of freedom. He will forever be treasured as the man who fought to liberate his people from the British created colonial slavery commonly refered to as 'one Nigeria' 2 Likes |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Arch1: 6:25pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
laudate:Thanks Boss 1 Like |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by dubemivan(m): 7:02pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
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Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by kettle84(m): 7:02pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
OJUcrook:the same Nigeria bombarded Asaba and other igbo areas of the Midwestern region which you said was neutral. |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by dubemivan(m): 7:03pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
OJUcrook: It is better to shut up than utter rubbish! Zik is a Nationalist and a founding father of Nigeria he was never in support of Biafra. OJUKWU was the architect and financed the entire war. His father was the Richest then and he sacrificed his inheritance to engage in the war! Why should he be running when his position and also his fathers wealth is given off? only a Fool will act otherwise. after all he was a Colonel then not a civillian. War was not strange to him! |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by T9ksy(m): 7:58pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
laudate: GBABE!!! He's an ardent student of DEDEISM school of thought though at times i believe, it's a genetic trait. 1 Like |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Newmanluckyman(m): 8:02pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
Victorvexz:... If not for anything, you supposed to be the reason why History as a subject supposed to be thought in the school. Not every war u get to formally be prepared for. For instance, if the rampaging fulani herdsmen is leaving destruction and death along their path moving like a bloody thirsty vampire into the heart of South West to reduced it to smithereens will you tell them that "please give us some time to get prepared so that we can resist your occupation"? Ordinarily, I wouldn't have responded to you. So next time you see an igbo man or woman around you, hug him, dough your cap for him because s/he fought like a hero, warrior to stop the evil rampaging forces of darkness marching eastwards to cause genocide, apocalypse and destruction. Rest in peace all the eastern heroes(death and alive) ,eastern martyrs that lay their beloved lives for the values, dignity and sanctity of Justice we all cherish. 1 Like |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by KelleneOkonkwo: 8:21pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
berrystunn: Okanga, I can feed the whole ijele for 50 years non stop. I am not your level, poverty is even your best friend. 1 Like |
Re: Philip Effiong's 91st Posthumous Birthday Is Today by KelleneOkonkwo: 8:22pm On Nov 18, 2016 |
[s] AgentCocoa:[/s] Ojukwu remain a coward in real life and his after life. Your tears cant change history. Sorry kid 2 Likes |
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