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Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 10:41pm On May 01, 2017 |
Foxyn:What would a married couple of 30 years without children say? This life is turn by turn. That it's working well for mr a, miss b doesn't mean it will end well for them. They might die during the process. Be grateful to Yahweh for sparing your life because he can take it anytime |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 11:44pm On May 01, 2017 |
I understand what you mean,I realised this for sometime now,and my life has been better. Don't bother arguing with them,they don't understand, you are no longer operating on the same wave length with them. 1 Like |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by petra1(m): 12:23am On May 02, 2017 |
bizme: Very stupid story .It's either you're lying against God or you're very ignorant . If you're sincere you should rather be asking questions here than talking God down |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by frank317: 3:30am On May 02, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: If he does not know why certain answers are not coming then how do u expect him to react to what he does not know. Having a good or bad experience in life does not have anything to do with God. Thanking an imaginary being for random things happening to u is silly. What experience do u have to share that would make him grateful to God for keeping him? Does it imply that Yahweh is fair to him than u? Why do you think that Yahweh is treating him better than u? Why do you sound comfortable with that? 4 Likes |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 5:39am On May 02, 2017 |
This is a time of "sifting." Many will fall. Too bad |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by azaino: 5:47am On May 02, 2017 |
CHARLOE:I now see your problem, it your understanding of the word that matters, you were nurturing fear of hell instead of love and happiness for what we have and who we are in Christ. A friend of mine got angry with God and felt cheated because of what the pastor told him, that if he gives all his money in his pocket in the offering box on Sunday, that God will surprise him on Monday, that he will get more money. this is wrong and fraudulent teachings. brother you need to start all over again. Most teachings of Christ was parable, you need understanding to understand it. |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by azaino: 6:12am On May 02, 2017 |
Foxyn: Most of your comments are centered on what you wanna get from God, and how he didn't answer when you needed him. Have you read the Bible yourself bro,. You lack understanding, but believe me , you will still come back to God cos God loves you more than you can imagine. I was fed many things by church leaders concerning God, in the process I was defrauded by the church leaders/pastors and not by God, because I was digesting whatever they fed me without delay. until I read the bible myself, on my own, God revealed himself and true nature to me. people get defrauded cos of greed for material thing. for example Many have denounced God because of tithe doctrine, 1 Like |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 7:13am On May 02, 2017 |
frank317:Probably when he experience near death he would understand better. |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by frank317: 7:38am On May 02, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: What had near death experience got to do with God? 1 Like |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 7:39am On May 02, 2017 |
frank317:Alot.ask him to pm for more details |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by delishpot: 8:51am On May 02, 2017 |
Organized religion is a scam 4 Likes |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by CHARLOE(m): 9:04am On May 02, 2017 |
azaino:If only u no my story, my journey, 1st off, became born again in d 80s, sec skool, carry su 4 head dey preach everywhere, till my days in Ife when critical thinking kicked in. My friend, (mean that like a bro) don't try to dodge d obvious; d inconsistencies, doubts (which is a good thing by d way), questions etc by jumping into erroneous conclusions. Except u don't no d meaning of d word fear. Only u can help yourself n u can start by doing basic thinking, like; can d creator of d vast universe be pettyish (jealous, angry, deceptive, cunning etcetc)? Google is ur friend, Google history of Christianity, who wrote d bible, proof Jesus Christ existed etc Only u can help yourself bro |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 10:38am On May 02, 2017 |
azaino:hahahahaha... if only you know the man you're talking to. A man that have read all the pages in the bible starting from Genesis to Revelations. that was why I said I won't come into argument with you because you don't know what I know neither have you seen what I've seen. if you talking about being defrauded by church leader(s) into making me believe what am not suppose to believe, then you're wrong my pastor is the most perfect man of God I've seen in this life. he's not rich like others but yet still, act the way he does I'm talking about a pastor that is filled with the holy spirit a pastor that doesn't need a penny to counsel you because he feels God's gift are to be made for free a pastor that doesn't make use of the members tithe and offerings a pastor that gives so much to the poor even when he doesn't have much imagine a pastor that has his own church, but always decide to deposit the church tithes in another church... lol my pastor is just awesome.. my problem is that God is not exactly how you guys paint him to be even my pastor do say that "he can't defend his God. instead, he allow God to defend himself" and it is what you are doing now you are trying to cover up for God.. talking about what he's not you don't know God more than me.. Go and read from the book of Genesis to revelations then read the book of Solomon, book of moses and book of psalms before you come and talk about God with me for now, continue leaving in lies and deciets 3 Likes |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 10:42am On May 02, 2017 |
asuustrike2009:baba, all those things were just meant to happen. if God is merciful as you say he is. he wouldn't allow a married couple to live for a whole 30 years before having a child you check am na or you no sabi wetin "Mercy" mean for dictionary again? God merciful? lol. if I hear 1 Like |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 10:43am On May 02, 2017 |
otemdomino:okay |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by bullabong(m): 11:02am On May 02, 2017 |
GloriaNinja:come on,give d guy a break. |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by bullabong(m): 11:04am On May 02, 2017 |
bizme:The day I made this similar decision was the day I started to face the real hard world on my own. So far so good,I am getting there. 3 Likes |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 12:50pm On May 02, 2017 |
Foxyn:Yahweh is still merciful if not by now someone would be six feet below the ground for wailing. Being the case of that couple, there are some factors responsible for such delay. They include 1.Not praying enough or praying amist 2.Sin which is the tool of the devil 3.Test of faith has Yahweh tested Abraham Some of these factors maybe responsible. However Yahweh's way isn't our way. His thought are not our thoughts that's why it's difficult for man to understand or comprehend certain things that happens. This is were seeking spiritual help comes in and not quitting. Quitting the fight makes Satan laugh at you. If one can't give up on achieving certain things in life for example trying to pass your exams no matter how difficult, why would one do that now. In life you Pray Until Something Happens (PUSH) |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 1:06pm On May 02, 2017 |
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Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 2:14pm On May 02, 2017 |
petra1: This world has become a literal hell because of people like you who believe they know God so well and who want to defend Him. You have been locked, hopelessly so, by your progenitors in a dangerous idea of God... Unlike you, I actually went through Bible schools, read the Bible from cover to cover several times...at a point at least 2 to 4 times every year. I had done evangelism work in several fields, in several villages, even witnessing once to the king of a town and his chiefs... It is rather arrogant and ill-advised of you to brand someone like me as ignorant. My knowledge of Christianity, unlike many of you, isn't limited to just the Bible or what pastors tell me. I have extended my understanding to different religions and philosophies about this world and the God that created it. I have a sound understanding of Christianity by the early fathers, beyond what is chronicled in the book of Acts of the Apostle; I have a sound understanding of the historical development of Christianity, the reign of catholicism, the destruction of several thousands of people by catholism, the subsequent evil pact between the throne and altar in the pre-1700 years, exploiting the common man and holding sway over life and death for millions of people. This eventually provoked the French Revolution, the killing of the commander in charge of Bastille and the setting free of the seven 'political' prisoners.... The subsequent full-fledged revolution whereby Parisians stripped the king and the Church of France of its power over the masses, the first formation of the National Assembly that represented the voice of the people and the right of the individual, the parody and enthronement of young girls on an Altar of Reason in Notre Dame, and the reign of the regime of reason... And from France the fever spread to the rest of Europe, even though the European deviance to hegemony by the Church was no more than an echo of what transpired in New England in America... In short Christianity shaped Europe, destroyed lots and lots of people in Europe... You see, unlike you I read and travel wide. I do not simply accept the faith passed down to me by my familial birth, but I needed to know everything there is to know about my religion. Europeans were better than us in the practice of Christianity, and yet from Maastricht and Amsterdam in Netherlands, to Aachen, Heidelberg, Cologne and Dusseldorf in Germany, to Paris, to Belgium I had seen empty Churches, houses of God which serve no more than tourist centers now. What happened to the members there? Well, the clergy took too much upon themselves in the defence of God. God doesn't need you to defend Him. And I feel it is too ignorant and pompous of you to describe me as ignorant. 6 Likes |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by frank317: 2:18pm On May 02, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: Lol @ bold implies our Yahweh s not merciful to people who are already six foot below the ground. |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 3:31pm On May 02, 2017 |
frank317:You case is beyond repair. Did you read the body of the work at all? I said Yahweh is merciful if not op and others would have been dead. If he was to apply Mosaic law, for wailing alone amount to death |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 3:38pm On May 02, 2017 |
[quote author=Foxyn post=56133099][/quote] Yahweh hates murmuring that's he didn't many of the Israelites to to get to the promise land. Those persons dying aren't Yahweh's fault. Don't forget this world is temporary so don't you think it's better they leave the world and make heaven than live longer and commit more sins? There's a time for everything, time to laugh and a time to cry. Time to born and time to die. Yahweh gives the wicked grace to repent because after death comes judgement of which no mercy is given. At that stage, his mercy ceases only on earth would man experience mercy. |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by frank317: 3:38pm On May 02, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: It still doesn't make sense. Good people and bad people die. Death is natural occurrence and everybody must die even u. Why would Yahweh kill anybody for wailing? All the good people that have died, did they wail. I still see no connection between this thread and six foot under the ground |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by urheme: 3:56pm On May 02, 2017 |
Foxyn: You are indeed a candidate for God's power.....when the world doesn't make sense to you is when God actually finds sense in you. I pray that the power of God locate you soon. 1 Like |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 4:22pm On May 02, 2017 |
frank317:Of course he did but that was in the pass. There's a correlation of six feet under the ground because the bad tend to live longer than the good |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by frank317: 4:46pm On May 02, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: What's this? |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 5:31pm On May 02, 2017 |
urheme:werey lol |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by legendary16(m): 5:36pm On May 02, 2017 |
OP I'll advice you better not to take that step you're thinking cause if you do you eventually will regret just like I am now, even to an extreme extent. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by Nobody: 5:40pm On May 02, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: you diverting the whole topic bro. don't forget we were talking about God's mercies |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by hopefulLandlord: 5:49pm On May 02, 2017 |
legendary16: you need to explain further so that OP can be convinced cuz what you just wrote is purely anecdotal 2 Likes |
Re: Today I Quit Going To Church: It's All A Sham by legendary16(m): 7:37pm On May 02, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: The reason could be the OP might be very close to whatever it is he seeks and this thought might just be another distraction to slowly take his mind off Christ. like I said something close to this thing happened to me. I thought I could handle my situation but I failed. here I am now thinking if God would accept me again cause things have really gone bad and the situation I thought I could handle has gone worse. my advice to the OP is to focus on God Abeg ! you'll eventually regret that you left Christ. |
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