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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Maximus69: 9:39pm On Mar 13
Hairyrapunzel:


I thought you were in the us army?
No Sir,Military intelligence is everywhere throughout the earth today,i served far away from Africa for many years before i was called to come and serve in east Africa. But when retiring, we can choose any country of our choice since we weren't dismissed!

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 10:00pm On Mar 13
johnw47:


yes olaadegbu, they are false witnesses
with a false christ that is "a god"
and a false jehovah who has "a god" with him 


[quote author=johnw47 post=76606681]

Johnw lying Pharisee & your fellow Pharisees.

.Jesus said
"No man has seen God AT ANY TIME , the only begotten god (Jesus) who is in the bosom position with the Father is the one that has explained him"
John 1:18

*** " The Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me.
You have neither heard his voice nor seen his figure" John 5:37


In John 5:37 and 1:18 , Jesus refuted your "Jesus is God" scam.
He said "No man has seen God AT ANY TIME ( that sentence is very simple & easy for every one to understand,except lying Pharisees.)


** Johnw & Olaadegbu Pharisees ,can you show us where "is" dey for John 1:1?

Of a truth there are many things phony about these lying Pharisees who rejected the words of the perfect Master Jesus Christ , they pretend to love.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 10:10pm On Mar 13
Maximus69:
Honesty and sincerity is the key here Sr.
China has invented a highly effective mind~reading gadget. You might have heard that millions of persons were quarantined in parts of Asia. Well that's the result after putting this machines to use.
It is fixed on certain parts of the body and pictures of different ethnic and religious dress~codes are set before the person being examined, questions will come from various intelligent officers but the person under test is not allowed to talk as his mouth is sealed. The machine will start reading either [positive ,x positive ,negative ,x negative ,delete or neutral]
If after different religious groups are brought to ones view,the most response derived from the machine keep reading X NEGATIVE and DELETE,instantly such a person is quarantined as unfit to live in the society!
Yo a fellow female agent from China{atheist} told me how surprised herself and other military intelligence officers were each time they place one of JWs under the same machine. As it never read NEGATIVE but always POSITIVE or NEUTRAL!
So the unit General decided to speak with few JWs{without the use of the mind~reading machine} and discovered that their main objective is getting neighbours join them in their religion or neutral towards those who turn them down,so they have no evil intentions towards anyone! Yo said that was what made the South Korean intelligence unit send the message to their government that JWs are free agents,and thousands of JWs serving jail terms on religious grounds were set free immediately!
So when i heard about shunning people in JWs{disfellowship} i questioned my conductor over it because i felt it's like being extreme,i learnt it's like putting an offender in prison away from others so as not to initiate them into wrongdoing. Of course i agreed with the arrangement without any further questions.
You can worship anywhere you wish and feel free to speak with others about the love of your God,but let it all be from a clear conscience without harboring evil intentions towards anyone. Nigeria's problem regarding religious intolerance has not developed to the level those Asians are having presently due to religious fanaticm so no one can place you or i under such mind~reading gadget now. But with what i've seen and heard on this thread,i'm sure more than three quarter of Nigerians will be quarantined if the same machine is brought in here!

It will really be interesting to make reference to this account of yours, it would really be an eye opener. While that is to come, a note can be taken from the account below

1 Corinthians 3 18-23

Guard AGAINST SELF-DECEPTION, each of you. If someone among you THINKS he is WISE in this AGE, let him BECOME FOOLISH so that he CAN BECOME WISE. 19 For the WISDOM of this AGE is FOOLISHNESS with GOD. As it is written, “He catches the WISE in their CRAFTINESS.” 20 And again, “The Lord KNOWS that the THOUGHTS of the wise are FUTILE.” 21 So then, no more BOASTING about MERE MORTALS! For everything belongs to you, 22 whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future. Everything belongs to you, 23 and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.


about the wisdom of MEN and CRAFTINESS of MEN is not a match for God's inspired words in fact


HEBREWS 4:12 states...... For the WORD of GOD is ALIVE and EXERTS power and is SHARPER than any TWO-EDGED SWORD and pierces even to the DIVIDING of SOUL and SPIRIT, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to DISCERN THOUGHTS and INTENTIONS of the HEART

Oga Maximus69, you need MAN MADE MACHINE to ascertain human HEARTS, we don't rely on HUMAN WISDOM or CRAFTINESS to do so, we rely on the SWORD of the SPIRIT which is WORD of GOD which is alive and EXERT POWER more than the MACHINE you put up there.

It's so funny your friend was jubilating over your discovery when God's WORD is POWERFUL than any man made craftiness.


Hebrews 4:13 And there is not a CREATION that is HIDDEN from his SIGHT, but all things are Unclad and OPENLY EXPOSED to the EYES of the one to WHOM we MUST give an ACCOUNT.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 10:16pm On Mar 13
Maximus69:
It's better that way Sir.
Your God differs from the God i'll like to worship,i hope that shouldn't make us perpetual enemies. We can just relate as neighbours if not as brothers. Tatime said
'There are three ways in which we can relate as brothers'
¤through blood.
¤through business.
¤through faith.
I believe him so let's just be neighbours,since it's not compulsory we worship the same God! smiley

And how do our leader( Jesus Christ) asked us to relate with our NEIGHBORS? Don't forget Matthew 22:
37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’

The story of the Samaritan will be just fine as well
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 10:27pm On Mar 13
Maximus69:
No Sir,Military intelligence is everywhere throughout the earth today,i served far away from Africa for many years before i was called to come and serve in east Africa. But when retiring, we can choose any country of our choice since we weren't dismissed!

Lol. You go dey alright last last. You wan dey lie abi? Lol
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by ableguy(m): 10:47pm On Mar 13
Maximus69:
Hmmm one love my brother!
I live around Okota/Isolo but my conductor said the Daluwon is along Lagos~Ibadan expressway!
I'll try to be there at least to see Tatime face to face! smiley
Okay, no wahala. I am even around ago palace way watching match
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 11:01pm On Mar 13
OLAADEGBU:


"Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself: handle Me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see Me have" (Luke 24:39).

Do spirits have flesh and bones? undecided

Yes ,angels are spirits.
Angels met Manoah (judges 13:9-20) ,in what
state did Manoah see.them?
Angels visited Lot (Gen19:1,2) ,in what state did Lot see them?
Do the maths your self.

***."Jesus....was put to death in the fleshly realm and made alive in the spiritual realm" 1Peter3:18.

Apply the result of your maths , first to the encounter between Jesus and Mary Magdalene ( John 20:11-16).& secondly , to the Apostles meeting Jesus ( John 20:20 ,21,24-27)

Then, ask your self , why did Mary Magdalene not recognize Jesus initially until he called her name?

By now you should have known that Jesus had no nail marks when he appeared to Mary Magdalene.
Why?


Angels are supernatural beings with the power to materialize (change) into fleshly body to be visible to Lot , Manoah , Jakob etc
.
The resurrected Jesus materialized into any fleshly body he wants,that is why Mary Magdalene could not recognize Jesus until he called her name.
To convince Thomas , Jesus changed into fleshly body with nail marks which Thomas would see.& touch in order to be convinced.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 11:21pm On Mar 13
johnw47:


lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ

post my quotes where i have disagreed with any scripture, oh cannot stop lying false jw, son of your daddy the devil smiley


1peter3:18 "Jesus...was put to death in the fleshly realm and made alive in the spiritual realm" , all your "Jesus raised his body" lie lie full this thread.
U misquoted John 1:1 to lie that "Father and the word is God"

Show us the evidence that the word "is" ,dey John 1:1


Johnw is with Peter and Johnw.was Peter.

Pharisee, coman twist am..

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 11:40pm On Mar 13
OLAADEGBU:


At least I believe in the words of the 'imperfect slave, Thomas' which is God breathed for us to read and believe. Do you take the words of men (Watchtower magazine) above the inspired word of God (the Holy scriptures)?

Lying Pharisee, Kai !!!!

Is the imperfect slave ,Thomas ,the boss of his perfect Master Jesus?

For once in your life , pls be honest
My questions to you:

*Who spoke the words of John 20:17 & Rev 3:21 in your copy of the Bible?

** Who wrote 1Cor 11:3 and Ephesians 1:3.in your copy of the Bible?

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:51pm On Mar 13
Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee & your fellow Pharisees.

.Jesus said
"No man has seen God AT ANY TIME , the only begotten god (Jesus) who is in the bosom position with the Father is the one that has explained him"
John 1:18

*** " The Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me.
You have neither heard his voice nor seen his figure" John 5:37


In John 5:37 and 1:18 , Jesus refuted your "Jesus is God" scam.
He said "No man has seen God AT ANY TIME ( that sentence is very simple & easy for every one to understand,except lying Pharisees.)


** Johnw & Olaadegbu Pharisees ,can you show us where "is" dey for John 1:1?

Of a truth there are many things phony about these lying Pharisees who rejected the words of the perfect Master Jesus Christ , they pretend to love.

lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ

you repeat your confusion over and over again because you have no understanding
of anything said to you, and you don't believe God's word that is given, because you are of the evil one:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

once again mumu brain "no man has seen God at any time" is referring to the Father
God the Word-Jesus Christ of course was seen

truly know nothing son of your daddy
your jesus is "a god" just as you say
so your jehovah has "a god" with him


our christian Jesus is God, along with His Father:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

our christian Jehovah doesn't have "a god" with Him:

Deu_32:39  See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.


lying pharisee deceiver, know nothing, stupidity brain, confused, son of the devil, Janosky/OneJ,
your daddy has blinded you:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 12:57am On Mar 14
Janosky:


1peter3:18 "Jesus...was put to death in the fleshly realm and made alive in the spiritual realm" , all your "Jesus raised his body" lie lie full this thread.
U misquoted John 1:1 to lie that "Father and the word is God"

Show us the evidence that the word "is" ,dey John 1:1


Johnw is with Peter and Johnw.was Peter.

Pharisee, coman twist am..



lying pharisee deceiver Janosky /OneJ

i asked you to post the quotes where i disagreed with scripture

of course you didn't post them and cannot
but you continue with your lies

however here is a quote of you disagreeing with scripture just from your recent post to olaadegbu
and you do it all the time, and i mean all the time, lying deceiver:


OLAADEGBU:


"Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself: handle Me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see Me have" (Luke 24:39).

Do spirits have flesh and bones? undecided


Janosky:


Yes ,angels are spirits.



Jesus said a spirit doesn't have flesh and bones
then olaadegbu asked you: does a spirit have flesh and bones
and you who cannot stop lying Janosky/OneJ said: yes, disagreeing with Jesus

a angel is a spirit being, a angel on occasions has put on a body,
but spirit is not body, just as a body is not spirit
Jesus was of course correct when He said: "for a spirit hath not flesh and bones"

but you lying son of the father of lies cannot stop lying just as your father cannot

you falsely accuse another of disagreeing with scripture when it's you who disagrees with scripture all the time

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



now to the scriptures which you lie and say i don't agree with, but in actual fact which you don't understand, about Jesus raising His body
you know that i answered that comprehensively with scripture backing, and that you of course rejected God's word as you often do, go back and search for it deceiver Janosky/OneJ and quote it here, and we will see who does believe scripture and who doesn't believe, don't be scared now, just do it

and to john 1:1 which you say i twisted, i copied and pasted it direct from the bible, of course, do you want me to post again all the verses supporting John 1:1 that show Jesus is God and that show john 1:1 that i posted to be correct? and that shows Father and the Word is God,
and that doesn't show Father is with "a god" as you believe and preach, laughing


lying pharisee deceiver twister know nothing Janosky/oneJ, you are such a mumu brain

wink



by the way oh duh stupidity brain
the word Jesus is not a angel, Jesus was a messenger for His Father, duh
Jesus is God, john 1:1 plus many more, Jesus created the angels, john 1:3, ha ha stupidity brain
everything that was created was created by Jesus, same verse, oh non believer

agelos is used for a messenger
agelos is also used for a angel

a pastor is a messenger of God, etc.



ἄγγελος
aggelos
ang'-el-os
From ἀγγέλλω aggellō a messenger; an “angel”; a pastor:

wink

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 1:33am On Mar 14
johnw47:


"No man has seen God at any time" is referring to the Father"

our christian Jesus is God, along with His Father:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

our christian Jehovah doesn't have "a god" with Him:

Deu_32:39  See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.



Johnw lying Pharisee , your lies will keep haunting you on this thread

Let's use simple English wey u learn for school.
** "I make alive,i wound,I heal."

Mr LIAR & half baked student, "I" is how many persons ?


**-
Deu32:39. Jehovah says I am He. , the only true God (John 17:3)
"One God the Father (1cor8:6)


"No man has seen God AT ANY TIME" ,"neither have you heard his voice nor seen his figure"

Jesus means what he says.


That his Father Jehovah is the only
true God.

The word Jesus was seen because
Jesus is NOT God
Jesus is a begotten god beside his Father ,Jehovah's side. John 1:18
Christ was not contradicting himself,but knocks your "Jesus is God" fraud.

**.why u no Show us where "is" dey John 1:1?
Confused Pharisee, in Hebrew &. Greek languages, god means God , God means god.

** "spirit is not a body just as body is not spirit"
Your confusion tie wrapper.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 2:10am On Mar 14
Janosky:


Lying Pharisee, Kai !!!!

Is the imperfect slave ,Thomas ,the boss of his perfect Master Jesus?

lying pharisee deceiver, know nothing, twister, mumu brain, son of the devil, confused, blinded, etc. etc. etc. Janosky/OneJ
the scriptures that you give names chapters and verses for,
don't contradict thomas saying to Jesus: "My Lord and my God"
there are no contradictions in God's word, just your very much non understanding and dis believing


Janosky:
For once in your life , pls be honest

speaking about yourself again, of course

Janosky:
My questions to you:

*Who spoke the words of John 20:17 & Rev 3:21 in your copy of the Bible?

** Who wrote 1Cor 11:3 and Ephesians 1:3.in your copy of the Bible?




john 20:17 Father is Jesus God and my God, true He certinally is
and
not only Father is God but the Word is God, john 1:1, as so many other scriptures also show

rev 3:21 Jesus and Father sit on the Fathers throne,
showing that Jesus and Father is God just like John 1:1 and many other verses show

1Co 11:3 the head of Christ is God(Father), He certinally is,
and Father calls Jesus God:

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Father calls Jesus God a second time and affirms that He(Father) is Jesus's God = Father and the Word is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Eph 1:3 ha ha, again, Father is the God of the Lord Jesus Christ, explanation given
however i tell you now you will not understand or believe the scriptures given, because:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

such a confused son of daddy devil smiley

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 4:24am On Mar 14
Janosky:


Johnw lying Pharisee , your lies will keep haunting you on this thread

lying pharisee deceiver janosky/OneJ

ha ha, how you wish i lied like you do, how you wish i was haunted like you are, laugh

Janosky: Let's use simple English wey u learn for school.
** "I make alive,i wound,I heal."

Mr LIAR & half baked student, "I" is how many persons ?

oh duh, know nothing, that is God talking, and God is one God, He is Father and the Word two persons, john 1:1

so it is the 1 God who said: "I make alive,i wound,I heal."


Janosky:
**-
Deu32:39. Jehovah says I am He. , the only true God (John 17:3)
"One God the Father (1cor8:6)

absolutely true, Jehovah is God, Jehovah God is Father and the Word
yes Jehovah is the only true God, and he is not the jehovah you believe in who has "a god' with him,
ha ha, smile x 10

and Father is the one God, indeed He is, as is the word Jesus, two persons, one God, john 1:1
1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
"one God, the Father" and "one Lord Jesus Christ" again showing that Father and Jesus Christ is God and Lord,
but perhaps you think that Father is not Lord




Janosky: "No man has seen God AT ANY TIME" ,"neither have you heard his voice nor seen his figure"

Jesus means what he says.

smiling again, i do that a lot reading your confused and much repeated posts

once again that is speaking about the Father, God the word of course has been seen, heard etc.


Janosky:
That his Father Jehovah is the only
true God.

again, Father Jehovah is the only true God
so is the word
two persons, one God
Jehovah is a name for God, Jehovah God is Father and the Word, john 1:1, plus many, just ask, i am happy to post them again

Janosky:
The word Jesus was seen because
Jesus is NOT God

ha ha ha, unbelievable, again for the ?? time, the word Jesus was seen because God the word became man, john 1:14


Janosky:
Jesus is a begotten god beside his Father ,Jehovah's side. John 1:18

your jesus is "a god" which you admit, and which is in your devils book which you call nwt translation, your false jehovah has "a god" at his side, fact according to false jw beliefs, oh cannot stop lying son of your daddy devil

Janosky:
Christ was not contradicting himself,but knocks your "Jesus is God" fraud.

Christ certinally doesn't contradict Himself, and doesn't contradict john 1 and all the other scriptures showing Jesus is God, the contradiction and lies come from within your false jw head


Janosky:
**.why u no Show us where "is" dey John 1:1?
Confused Pharisee, in Hebrew &. Greek languages, god means God , God means god.


really, god means god, laughing

what is it you want me to show you about john 1:1, take your time and maybe your babble
will become clear, and you won't be so confused, na impossible, ha ha

Janosky:
** "spirit is not a body just as body is not spirit"
Your confusion tie wrapper.

amazing,
truly, spirit is not a body, just as body is not spirit

Luk_24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

however spirits have put on a body, but spirit and body are not the same thing, oh know nothing mumu brain Janosky/OneJ


1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 4:42am On Mar 14
lying pharisee deceiver Janosky/OneJ

Mat 23:24  Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. 
Mat 23:25  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. 
Mat 23:26  Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. 
Mat 23:27  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
 

Psa 59:8  But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision. 

derision
לָעַג
lâ‛ag
law-ag'
to deride; to speak unintelligibly: - have in derision, laugh (to scorn), mock (on), stammering.

you false jw Janosky/OneJ certinally speak unintelligibly



Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 4:49am On Mar 14
the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ speaks of false jw's and others:

Mat_24:11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/267#76058411
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Maximus69: 7:36am On Mar 14
achorladey:


And how do our leader( Jesus Christ) asked us to relate with our NEIGHBORS? Don't forget Matthew 22:
37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’

The story of the Samaritan will be just fine as well


Good morning Mr Achorladey,how are you Sir?
Please Sincerity and Honesty has really helped faithful servants of God throughout in the history of God's people. I said it before that this your so called 'NONE DENOMINATION' gesture has flaws considering your posts Sir.
Firstly you forgot that the so called 'mind~reading' gadget wasn't invented by JWs, it's what the CIA has been using for long but the scientists from Asia{where majority are atheists} only developed it further. Now with the new technology they can examine the level of goodwill or hatred you secretly harbor towards people of other faith. So JWs never approved it as something that's divine since it's the handiwork of ATHEISTS!
Secondly Jesus taught his followers to love their neighbour as themselves,of course this teacher lives by his own teachings,he made it clear that it's ONLY those who are related to him by faith that are his REAL families no matter where such a person comes from. Matthew 12:47-50 Surely Jesus sees all other persons as neighbours and that includes those related to him by blood but failed to relate with him in faith.
Jehovah's Witnesses are following that same pattern today,if you're not a JW you can be their colleague, worker, boss, co~tenant, doctor, teacher, worker e.t.c what you need to iron out is the differences in beliefs since that is where friction is possible, and when that is done you'll enjoy the company of JWs always.
Why most people do have problems with JWs is pestering them to do something that's against their faith,instead why not allow for a friendly discussion to ascertain what your JW neighbour won't tolerate?. That's why i said from the onset 'their strategy is the best when talking about beliefs', if you want to see the best of neighbours,just stay clear from pestering a JW to go against the teachings of their GB,block all avenues for further religious discussions after knowing their dos and donts and you'll be best of friends! smiley I don't think Jesus meant anything more than that when he said 'love your neighbour as yourself' smiley

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Maximus69: 7:44am On Mar 14
ableguy:

Okay, no wahala. I am even around ago palace way watching match
Wow! good to here that! I'll have loved to join you, this weekend is somehow tight for me due to business,but be rest assured that i'm with you Sir in spirit. Good morning! smiley

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Maximus69: 7:49am On Mar 14
Hairyrapunzel:


Lol. You go dey alright last last. You wan dey lie abi? Lol
PEACE! Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE Sir. smiley

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Maximus69: 8:04am On Mar 14
@achorladey
This is social media so we can't relate as neighbours since we don't know nor see one another,had it been we live close to one another then we must relate somehow and i believe that must be as neighbours. We can always avoid anything that has to do with worship since our thoughts differs regarding sacred services.
Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar wanted to force everyone under him to worship his God{Satanic influence} while the beliefs of Jews is against bowing to images. Surely Shadrak,Meshak and Abednego would have worshiped along with the others if there is nothing wrong in the setting. Nebuchadnezzar undoubtedly enjoyed the company of these three Hebrews but something is driving his thoughts against them now that it has to do with worship. Please try to visualise yourself in the scene,
(1)if you are one of the three Hebrews.
(2)if you are Nebuchadnezzar.
i'm sure you'll get a clearer picture! smiley

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 9:45am On Mar 14
OLAADEGBU:


"For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ" (Philippians 3:18)

The bottomline is that you are both influenced by the spirit of the antichrist. Muslims don't believe Jesus died for our sins and you don't believe Jesus died on a Cross. Belief in Christ's crucifixion is necessary for our salvation and when you deny this truth that makes yout both enemies of the Cross of Christ.

Emphasis on the bolded parts above. OLAADEGBU I have two questions to ask you.

1. Between the soul/Spirit and ordinary body, which is the real person of any human ?


2. Regarding Jesus - Which died for sins, Soul/spirit or ordinary body ?


After responding to the above, I will refer back to the bolded and see if Yourself, Olaadegbu is not an enemy of the Christ as you defined !

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 9:49am On Mar 14
brocab:

There is only one simple answer to stop you maniacs destroying bible truth-One must be born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God-JW's are not born again believers, reason you don't believe you have the rights to enter into God's kingdom!
{John 3:4-6} Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.
This is where the truth is, in the Word of God, any other doctrine found elsewhere that doesn't line up with the Word of God-is a lie from the beginning.
We should be testing the Spirit-testing every word that comes out of the mouth of a false prophet..

The problem is many of you do not understand what you quote or say yourself.

Where is David and Moses presently?

Vital question: Are they born again ?


Answer the two

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by TATIME: 10:43am On Mar 14
Barristter07:


The problem is many of you do not understand what you quote or say yourself.

Where is David and Moses presently?

Vital question: Are they born again ?


Answer the two
After running from pillar to post in a bid to discredit JWs,they ended up convincing a Bible student that they've got nothing to say other than fighting to keep their old superstitious dogmas and traditions! embarassed embarassed embarassed
I'm sure Maximus came in to find out certain things he might be missing since they've got no time for preaching and teaching people unlike the JWs,but instead of being mindful of his field so that they comport themselves in an orderly manner with efficacy. Their envious attributes coupled with intense hatred for the truth erupted like a volcano, and each one started hitting wrongly even while trying to defend their fallacies before a military intelligence officer! wink wink wink
They reminded me of the false accusers paid by the Sanhenrin to come and testify against Jesus. Imagine when different individuals PAID to bear false witnesses are desperately trying to nail Jesus but can't make a good case,the Sanhendrin just drove all of them away to avoid constituting a nuisance before the Roman governor who is totally NEUTRAL! cheesy cheesy cheesy They knew for sure that everything will bounce back if all these good for nothing accusers are brought before an intellectual like Pontius Pilate to testify against Jesus! Mark 14:55-59 wink wink wink

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 10:47am On Mar 14
OLAADEGBU:


Let me make the comparisons simple for you. Muslims and JWs both deny that Jesus is God,

You both deny that the Bible, especially the New Testament has been corrupted or that it is not accurate.
You both deny that Jesus Christ was crucified on the Cross.
You both deny that Jesus is Lord, Saviour and God.

See the documentation below for comparisons with other groups.

Lying Pharisee at work.
** 1..in heaven Jesus calls Jehovah God "my Father".(Rev3:12,21) and on earth he also called Jehovah "my Father and my God" (john 20:17)
Meaning that Jesus is not God but Pharisees have LIED that "Jesus is God" ,that is ,God called himself "my Father and my God"
Pharisees & sense be like lagoon wey divide Lagos island from Lagos mainland.

*****2.Mr OLAADEGBU LIED.
JWs consistently showed proof that some verses in the New Testament were forgeries added into the new testament to support Trinity scam. Some few examples are 1john5:7 ,1tim3:16 ,Phil2:6 (KJV) .

The word "Godhead" is NOT in any Bible manuscript but today it is the maggi & royko of Trinity scam. Aside these forgeries, the new testament & old testament is the
holy word of God.

**3 Jesus lived ,died.& was buried as a Jew.(John 19:38-42).
In the Jewish custom ,criminals were impaled on an upright pole ,a stake (Deu21:22 ,23). Paul & Peter said that was how Jesus died. ,he was impaled (Gal3:13. Acts5:30).
The Latin word "Crux" , which is the root for English words Crucifixion ,crucified ,Cross were forgeries added into the holy scriptures.
Impaled was substituted for crucified, 'stake' was removed & replaced with 'cross'
**4 ,Again. Mr Olaadegbu LIED. Jehovah made Jesus lord & Christ (Acts2:36).

"For God so loved the world that HE gave his only begotten (created) son so that whosoever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life" John 3:16.

Jehovah sent his created son to save mankind.
To all Pharisees & LIARS ,Jesus NEVER said God sent himself to save mankind.
"We have seen and do bear witness that the Father has sent his son to be the Saviour of the world"
1John4:14
Jehovah God alone is immortal ,HE never died (1tim1:17)


** Jesus Christ is the mediator between God and man.
The last time I checked ,you can never be the arbiter/mediator in your own case.
Trinity is a scam
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Maximus69: 11:31am On Mar 14
If any of this people are brought before the military intelligence unit for questioning, the only thing that could save them is if a highly respected clergy pleads for them! Now i know why JWs are feared most by those clergymen. The issue of mind~reading machine was really terrible,because most muslims and clergy were effected. Why? Pictures of sexually provocative models and imagine reading on a muslim{seeing a girl dressed uncovered} a clergy{seeing a model in full blown makeovers with assorted jewelries} or youths drinking alcoholic beverages!
So when Yo{female Chinese agent} said JWs weren't affected,i immediately realised what happened. Of course JWs do go to all these people with free minds,having the intention of making friends with them and shipping in their messages. Now that is not the same case with those who are nursing the idea of torturing such people forever in hellfire! embarassed
Atheists are freethinkers so they don't welcome the thought of some setting standards for others regarding speeches{including harmless jokes,sexual comments and jesting with neighbours} ,expressions {dresses and songs} and worships{including all forms of moves and gestures} Neutral intellectuals don't expect anyone to pester others to comply with some rules!
Of course you're free to discuss with your neighbours about your PERSONAL likes and dislikes. Under this code,JWs have the full support of the laws of any human society!
So what is intolerance? Well according to the CIA,it is defined as the act of FORCEFULLY depriving others from participating in anything mainly because of some PERSONAL or RELIGIOUS reasons!
With this definition in mind,i kept noticing various comments from the JWs and None denominationals, i've come to realise that only the JWs are free from intolerance!

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 12:20pm On Mar 14
TATIME:
After running from pillar to post in a bid to discredit JWs,they ended up convincing a Bible student that they've got nothing to say other than fighting to keep their old superstitious dogmas and traditions! embarassed embarassed embarassed
I'm sure Maximus came in to find out certain things he might be missing since they've got no time for preaching and teaching people unlike the JWs,but instead of being mindful of his field so that they comport themselves in an orderly manner with efficacy. Their envious attributes coupled with intense hatred for the truth erupted like a volcano, and each one started hitting wrongly even while trying to defend their fallacies before a military intelligence officer! wink wink wink
They reminded me of the false accusers paid by the Sanhenrin to come and testify against Jesus. Imagine when different individuals PAID to bear false witnesses are desperately trying to nail Jesus but can't make a good case,the Sanhendrin just drove all of them away to avoid constituting a nuisance before the Roman governor who is totally NEUTRAL! cheesy cheesy cheesy They knew for sure that everything will bounce back if all these good for nothing accusers are brought before an intellectual like Pontius Pilate to testify against Jesus! Mark 14:55-59 wink wink wink

lying false jw tatime, your usual garbage of course
you false jw's obviously spend time imagining and making up lies

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:38pm On Mar 14
If you feel you can enter into the Kingdom of God through a back door-without Christ-you are on your own-David and Moses were men that lived by faith waiting for their promise-they were favoured by God, men that seen great signs and wonders-and still they were Jew's obeying the laws of the old covenant, until Jesus came to change the Old into a New covenant.
Under the Old covenant, Nicodemus came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. Nicodemus said; no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”
Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.” This is the New Covenant-we must become born again before we can enter into the Kingdom of God!
Nicodemus was a Pharisee and had lots of religion. But he had no spiritual life. And he saw the supernatural work of God in Jesus, but he didn’t experience the supernatural work of God in himself.
What Nicodemus needed, Jesus said, was new spiritual life imparted supernaturally through the Holy Spirit. What makes the new life spiritual and what makes it supernatural is that it is the work of God the Spirit. It is something above the natural life of our physical hearts and brains.
Jesus says, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” The flesh does have a kind of life.
Every human being is living flesh. But not every human being is living spirit. To be a living spirit, or to have spiritual life, Jesus says, we must be “born of the Spirit.” Flesh gives rise to one kind of life. The Spirit gives rise to another kind of life. If we don’t have this second kind, we will not see the kingdom of God.
Barristter07:


The problem is many of you do not understand what you quote or say yourself.

Where is David and Moses presently?

Vital question: Are they born again ?


Answer the two
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:51pm On Mar 14
I like your honestly-if you keep this up-maybe someone may give you a chocolate frog, we are not brothers in Christ-but we are not your enemy either..
Maximus69:
It's better that way Sir.
Your God differs from the God i'll like to worship,i hope that shouldn't make us perpetual enemies. We can just relate as neighbours if not as brothers. Tatime said
'There are three ways in which we can relate as brothers'
¤through blood.
¤through business.
¤through faith.
I believe him so let's just be neighbours,since it's not compulsory we worship the same God! smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Maximus69: 12:54pm On Mar 14
brocab:
I like your honestly-if you keep this up-maybe someone may give you a chocolate frog, we are not brothers in Christ-but we are not your enemy either..
Hi Five! smiley

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:57pm On Mar 14
Then the JW's will say to their dog-Grandma' what big teeth you have, and what big ear's you have, and grandma what big mouth you have..
OLAADEGBU:


It will be risky keeping lions in the zoo, they should rather keep a dog at home while they try to convince themselves that it's a lion. shocked
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:03pm On Mar 14
When we explain the bible-test it, don't get angry about it, we are here to preach the gospel, nothing more!
We love Jesus Christ just as much as you love Jehovah-we will defend our beliefs, and we will stand strong together as Christians-we are born again believers-and we stand for Christ, and in Him only 'do we serve..
Maximus69:
Hi Five! smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:11pm On Mar 14
TATIME:
They knew for sure that everything will bounce back if all these good for nothing accusers are brought before an intellectual like Pontius Pilate to testify against Jesus!
And when we defend Jesus-who comes up against us besides the JW's-No one because it's always the JW's who come up against us..
TATIME:
After running from pillar to post in a bid to discredit JWs,they ended up convincing a Bible student that they've got nothing to say other than fighting to keep their old superstitious dogmas and traditions! embarassed embarassed embarassed
I'm sure Maximus came in to find out certain things he might be missing since they've got no time for preaching and teaching people unlike the JWs,but instead of being mindful of his field so that they comport themselves in an orderly manner with efficacy. Their envious attributes coupled with intense hatred for the truth erupted like a volcano, and each one started hitting wrongly even while trying to defend their fallacies before a military intelligence officer! wink wink wink
They reminded me of the false accusers paid by the Sanhenrin to come and testify against Jesus. Imagine when different individuals PAID to bear false witnesses are desperately trying to nail Jesus but can't make a good case,the Sanhendrin just drove all of them away to avoid constituting a nuisance before the Roman governor who is totally NEUTRAL! cheesy cheesy cheesy They knew for sure that everything will bounce back if all these good for nothing accusers are brought before an intellectual like Pontius Pilate to testify against Jesus! Mark 14:55-59 wink wink wink

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