guddsid:

@jason what onlytruth is telling you is totally true . you are looking at the smaller picture , you need to look at the big picture ,  it wasn't a "tribal conquest" and neither did he "invade" yorubaland , it was deeper than tribal boundaries , its like saying america invaded iraq because they hate the iraqi people ? or like saying the allied forces invaded germany because they hate the germans ?? we can choose to see things from a more naive perspective or we can look deeper and broader and see things the right way  .  you are being naive on your assessment of the biafran "invasion"

Onlytruth:

Dude are you serious?

You think Ndigbo are staying in SW and North because of the benevolence of Yoruba and Hausa people? Ol boy you must be smoking a very strong ganja!

Since after the war, Ndigbo have migrated out of Igbo land to escape economic strangulation imposed by Awolowo and Gowon. I don't know how much you understand the mindset of war survivors. They are TOUGH. So Igbo are in south west because IGBO want to be there, not because Yoruba welcomed them. The same with the north which occasionally attack us, and which we have learned to repel. Today if you try anything against us, we will fight you right there in your land and wage a looooooooong war IN YOUR LAND. The same with north. So, I want you to understand that part clearly.
You come here pretending to want to mend fences when in fact you are the same TYPICAL south westerner.

Like I told you before, Ndigbo are not interested in your schemes. We don't need it. We have ALREADY recovered from the war and are already dominating some sectors of the Nigerian economy -your worst fear. Learn to live with it.

Like Ojukwu told Igbo men in Kano, we are now Nigerians, entitled to live in and DOMINATE ANY part of Nigeria -your worst fear again.

If anyone dares attack us, we will show him that 2010 is 40 years away from 1970.

You fought to bring us back into Nigeria. WE ARE BACK!

By the way if I were that your Igbo friend, I'd watch my back.

jason12345:

. you have serious issues!!!

it is talks that make me happy. atleast, you know you are nigerians .

and i am not a pretender, i am only stating the obvious

jason12345:

so what is the broader picture? that awolowo and the rest of the country (north and ijaws) killed biafran out of jealousy . pls explain to me the broader picture.

if it was about jealousy, don't you think the biafrans would have been wiped out what happened in rwanda was the definition of jealousy where a particular ethnic group was almost wiped out by the other.

i seriously doubt it was jealousy.  if it was, then the jealousy would still be practiced today and an igbo man would not be made a commissioner in Lagos. An igbo man would be discriminated against in SW and north and would not be allowed to have bussiness in sw and the north. infact, an igbo man would have not been in any position of power or authority!!!!!!!!

you cannot claim it was jealousy, you absolutely cannot claim that.

Onlytruth:

[size=15pt]So, it is not out of benevolence that we are in your land. You have NO CHOICE. It is Nigerian territory.  [/size]

Onlytruth:

The bolded shows how NAIVE you are. The war ended on a no victor no vanquished basis. Above all, we are now Nigerians, but we are still testing out that Nigerianness. If for a second we think that we are not wanted in ANY part of Nigeria, guess what? Deja vous all over again.
So, it is not out of benevolence that we are in your land. You have NO CHOICE. It is Nigerian territory.  

ezeagu:

ezeagu:

I propose that Ijebu-Igbo should be changed to Ije-ndi-Igbo. Igbo-Ora should be Igbo-na-ndi-Ora. That way the names will be more traditionally Nigerian.

jason12345:

oh boy, stop am oooo!!!

ezeagu:

Okay, it's time for Biafra!

ezeagu:

Okay, it's time for Biafra!

Dawgpound:

*mchew* @ the fact that Biafra is always and only associated with the Igbo yet my father an Ogoni fought and paid the price for it. Have people forgotten about our own contributions? Anyway Nigeria was imposed on me as Ogoni while Biafra was a choice my family made to follow.

Dawgpound:

*mchew* @ the fact that Biafra is always and only associated with the Igbo yet my father an Ogoni fought and paid the price for it. Have people forgotten about our own contributions? Anyway Nigeria was imposed on me as Ogoni while Biafra was a choice my family made to follow.

Dawgpound:

*mchew* @ the fact that Biafra is always and only associated with the Igbo yet my father an Ogoni fought and paid the price for it. Have people forgotten about our own contributions? Anyway Nigeria was imposed on me as Ogoni while Biafra was a choice my family made to follow.

vicenzo:

It is funny how most southwesterners wil see no wrong in the actions of awolowo during and after the war, but wil rather see him as a hero but stil expect ndiigbo to form alliance with them,didnt abiola say he can do without ndiigbo.

It is funny how most southwesterners wil see no wrong in the actions of awolowo during and after the war, but wil rather see him as a hero but stil expect ndiigbo to form alliance with them,didnt abiola say he can do without ndiigbo

And we all know what happened to both these individuals. Let them choke on their words.

vicenzo:

It is funny how most southwesterners wil see no wrong in the actions of awolowo during and after the war, but wil rather see him as a hero but stil expect ndiigbo to form alliance with them,didnt abiola say he can do without ndiigbo.

EzeUche0:

And we all know what happened to both these individuals. Let them choke on their words.

chyz:

For the Igbo: There was nothing wrong with the Yorubas protecting their land from being invaded. Did you actually thing that Banjo wasn't going to betray the Biafra when they wanted to enter on his people's land? You would have done the same.


For the Yoruba: You cannot point fingers on the invasion of land. The Yorubas invaded Igboland first. Each divison consisted majority of it's indigenes so the yoruba divison came on Igbo soil when they entered the Midwest(The Igbo part).


For the Hausa: You are hypocrites, you were the first to go for secession from nigeria until the US and Britain told you about oil and promise your region power but when the Igbo called for secession you said nigeria is ONE and igbos do not have the right to leave.

jason12345:

GOD bless you!!! for the first bolded point!!! if it was the yorubas that invaded their land, ojukwu would have done the same if not worse

@ second bolded

we did not invade. they came to ORE, where the yoruba land starts and we had to defend our territory.

chyz:

Jason, I dont know man. Your comment just made me question your claim of Itsekiri. You just said the Ore is where yoruba starts. Do you not see itsekiri as yoruba? you said we had to defend OUR territory. . .


I'm not sure the initial plan was to march to lagos to crush the headquarters otherwise i think Banjo wouldn't have agreed to fight for Biafra, he could have been made to do so against his will. However, it could have been the initial plan and Banjo could have been planning to sabotage it all along. All in all, his action is back stabbing but at the same time understandable because of his love for his people. Isn't that what Ojukwu was fighting for "the love of his people"?

The march on Ore was a reaction to their invasion of the midwest. You all stepped foot on our land first, both Igbo and Ijaw lands.That's fact so there shouldn't be any finger point when it comes to going on the other tribe's land. Remember Biafra didn't bring war to nigeria, nigeria brung war on Biafra.

chyz:

Remember Biafra didn't bring war to nigeria, nigeria brung war on Biafra.

MShittu:

I want Igbos to spread around Nigeria and dominate economic sectors as they deem fit, as by doing so, Igbo people'll finally feel like a real part of the nation and the others'll see them as such, hopefully.

I'm not sure the initial plan was to march to lagos to crush the headquarters otherwise i think Banjo wouldn't have agreed to fight for Biafra, he could have been made to do so against his will. However, it could have been the initial plan and Banjo could have been planning to sabotage it all along.

All in all, his action is back stabbing but at the same time understandable because of his love for his people. Isn't that what Ojukwu was fighting for "the love of his people"?

T9ksy:

Quote from: vicenzo on Today at 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: vicenzo on Today at 04:41:15 PM
And who told you guys that we yorubas want to form alliance with you? And what for?
I laugh in Yoruba.

You take care of your region and we will, ours. we don't need you guys for anything as we are quite capable of taking care of our own affairs. Just as we told your pseudo-nationalist Zik during the carpet-crossing saga when he tried to become governor of Yorubaland and also later told your hero, Ojukwu who was coming to "liberate" us with his purportedly seceedung troops, so we are saying now. we do not need you guys. we are quite capable of managing our affairs. We yorubas are here to stay and we 'll not choke on anything!!!

Thanks but no thanks!!!