ColonelDrake:


I agree with you. The ooni of ife comes to mind. I don't know what da hell is wrong with that guy. Hangs committed a lot of sacrileges - making Pst Adeboye to sit on his stool, carrying offering baskets in church and his excessive romance and obsession with the church. This is someone who is supposed to be the custodian of the Yoruba traditions and you'll still some of our Christian brothers supporting that disgracing acts

AkinPhysicist:


Obi is using Kanu to position his presidential candidacy. However, Kanu is like the proverbial tiger - you might have fun riding it but its very likely you end up in its mouth. Rochas is definitely Babangida's choice for now. Everyone knows Buhari is close to expiration. The consequent political confusion will surely test Nigeria's fragile unity. This is when the secessionist voices would become even louder - we never see anything yet.

AkinPhysicist:


YOU are dead wrong. You are confusing CULTURE with POLITICS. Now answer me this (truthfully):

Which of the two religions promote the destruction of traditional shrines and cultural monuments the most?

Obaluf0n:



LOL baba abeg leave my king o

All these kings romance Jesus/Allah too much and it disgusts me. There's no way you'd subject yourself to immense rituals, take oaths at the foot of deities then upon getting on the throne you begin to shout Jesus and Muhammed; who are you fooling?

YungMillionaire:

That last sentence scares the living daylight out of me. The polity is already heated. Now imagine throwing that constitutional confusion in the midst. You are a very insightful guy!

ColonelDrake:

Guys like that are better as neutrals. The moment he enters politics, his allegiance will change and he will start singing a new song, change his tune perhaps. May our loyalty not be tested in Fashola's voice

Efewestern:


Believe me the itsekiris don't see themselves as Yoruba.. yes they speak similar language with you, bear similar names with you.. but hey that doesn't make them Yoruba. Itsekiri is itsekiri, Yoruba is Yoruba. and I think itsekiri are more connected with ondo (Ilaje) than those from Lagos.

Wow I love the comments here, glad you guys love and respect minorities, Good to know.

cc: onuwaje
frathermathy
Sanchez01
wirinet

FisifunKododada:


I think Tinubu has done some good work for the Yoruba nation. I think Akin is a future Jagaban. His mind is very clear and sharp. And he as pro-Yoruba as they come. I say give him a chance.

AkinPhysicist:


The writer is absolutely spot on. Nigerians underestimate the extent to which these two foreign religion have devastated our traditional cultures. The Yorubas are still faring better - go to the North and see how entire cultures have gone completely extinct because of Islam. And I mean COMPLETELY.

9jakool:

I see the foolery is getting to a few elements of Yoruba folks as well. You see that some ignorant folks are claiming that Oduduwa came from Meccah, because Mohammed was from there. Also when they go on hajj, they see the glitter of Meccah (which is a result of Saudi's oil) meanwhile forgetting that when Ile-Ife was an urban center of trade and culture, Meccah was just a small village in the Arabian desert.

It even gets more ridiculous when the Awujale was claiming that Ijebus are from Sudan when their founder, Obanta was from Ile-Ife. At the same time, they worry why their brothers, the Remos who are sworn Ife descendants constantly disassociate themselves from the Ijebus. You cannot spit in a pot of soup and expect someone else to eat it with you. I know many Ijebus don't buy that nonsense, but there are some very unfortunate folks out there who would rather claim to be descendant from some far fetched place. Even with this, I agree that Yorubas are faring better in comparison to other ethnic groups.

ColonelDrake:

Is he not my king too?

Sanchez01:

I wouldn't have said it better. Truth is, you would find thread as this with more intellectual contents than insults as opposed to the other people. The Itsekiris, though have their origin deeply rooted in the South West, do not share cultural similarities with the Yorubas. The guys here are intelligent, believe me.

ColonelDrake:

Done ke? Like what and what? Apart from political positions, I don't see what Tinubu has done for the Yoruba. political positions only the benefit the recipients.
Compare to what Awo did for the Yoruba

YungMillionaire:

I agree with you. Some1 like Akin should not get into politics. Because if they are unable to co-opt him with money dem go 'off' the guy. But I guess Akin is too much of a Yoruba nationalist to be co-opted. So he better stay off politics for his own good.

9jakool:

I see the foolery is getting to a few elements of Yoruba folks as well. You see that some ignorant folks are claiming that Oduduwa came from Meccah, because Mohammed was from there. Also when they go on hajj, they see the glitter of Meccah (which is a result of Saudi's oil) meanwhile forgetting that when Ile-Ife was an urban center of trade and culture, Meccah was just a small village in the Arabian desert.

9jakool:

It even gets more ridiculous when the Awujale was claiming that Ijebus are from Sudan when their founder, Obanta was from Ile-Ife. At the same time, they worry why their brothers, the Remos who are sworn Ife descendants constantly disassociate themselves from the Ijebus. You cannot spit in a pot of soup and expect someone else to eat it with you. I know many Ijebus don't buy that nonsense, but there are some very unfortunate folks out there who would rather claim to be descendant from some far fetched place. Even with this, I agree that Yorubas are faring better in comparison to other ethnic groups.

maisauki:

I'M A ROYAL BLOODED YORUBA GUY BUT JUS USED THAT MONIKER INTENTIONALLY...omo yoruba atata ni mi

FisifunKododada:

YungMill, I will have to disagree with you and the colonel. The political arena is still the most consequential arena in any society. I would rather have the best and the brightest writing the laws than a bunch of mentally lazy hippos. We need to give a chance to young and bright Nigerians to look at the challenges of this country with fresh eyes. These old dogs are bereft of creative ideas and strategies.

Obaluf0n:
For Yoruba independent state to succeed and thrive.

Religion has to be properly discussed.

A nation where the Adeboyes, Mr. Winnders etc as well Arab followers in Iwo, Ilorin and Ibadan will pose a threat to our stability or provide a loophole for external forces to exploit will not work. Yoruba religion has to be allowed to thrive by giving it the recognition it requires. And if possible, law should be passed banning these Abrahamic religions from preaching anti-traditional religion sermons for we know this is what they thrive on -- an imaginary lifelong battle against traditionalists automatically presumed to be evil and Esu that has no bearing in Christianity/Islam. This is despite both religions having their own battles with Satan and Shaitan respectively.

Take away the usual preaching, fasting and prayers against Esu, Aje, Oso, Emere and watch most churches fizzle out. Na why Yoruba people no like Catholic church; they've automatically assumed the death of traditionalists and their deities is the solution to their problems

There's also the need to put Yoruba culture at the forefront of the state. The state does not have to retain residue of former British colony. It has a lot to put out to create an identity for Yoruba in Brazil, Cuba, USA and so on to latch on to.

There's also the question of the appointment and role of Oba. Me thinks law should be passed that any Oba that cannot and will not stick with socio-cultural demands (spirituality) attached to the office need not vie for the throne and any king having problems taking charge of cultural demands of the office will/can be removed. Being a king requires a lot of rituals to ascend the throne; a lot of rituals to remain on the throne and a lot of ritual the king will be subjected to when he dies. We do not need these Nigerian kings who get on the throne and morph into Christ evangelists or Uthman Fodio.

FisifunKododada:


Walahi this guy you just spoke my mind. I have been saying this for years. The madness needs to stop. And soon.

YungMillionaire:

You have a point. But I doubt some1 like Akin is even interested in going into politics full time.

AkinPhysicist:

You are right, I am not interested. But I have no problem strategizing behind the scenes. I am currently working with a couple of candidates (Pro-Yoruba Nationalists) in my home state. Nigeria is nations within a single nation. All those people doing one Nigeria are avoiding reality. When the time comes each people have to be ready to move forward.

YungMillionaire:


I agree with you. Some1 like Akin should not get into politics. Because if they are unable to co-opt him with money dem go 'off' the guy. But I guess Akin is too much of a Yoruba nationalist to be co-opted. So he better stay off politics for his own good.

ColonelDrake:


I agree with you. The ooni of ife comes to mind. I don't know what da hell is wrong with that guy. Hangs committed a lot of sacrileges - making Pst Adeboye to sit on his stool, carrying offering baskets in church and his excessive romance and obsession with the church. This is someone who is supposed to be the custodian of the Yoruba traditions and you'll still some of our Christian brothers supporting that disgracing acts

AkinPhysicist:

Trust me few things are more vexing to me than this Mecca origin business - probably an idea promoted by some Arabs to promote Islam. It makes zero sense. And lacks zero cultural evidence.


Thanks for the emboldened gem.

FisifunKododada:


YungMill, I will have to disagree with you and the colonel. The political arena is still the most consequential arena in any society. I would rather have the best and the brightest writing the laws than a bunch of mentally lazy hippos. We need to give a chance to young and bright Nigerians to look at the challenges of this country with fresh eyes. These old dogs are bereft of creative ideas and strategies.

deedeedee1:

That ooni of ife is an insult to yoruba people

YungMillionaire:

Interesting. What's your opinion of the Chinese influencing our elections by funding pro-Chinese investment candidates?

ColonelDrake:

"My father is Jesus"
Imagine such statement coming from the numero uno of Yoruba

deedeedee1:
The ooni of ife is not my king. I cant respect a man worships a different religion from our's. I am agnostic but i feel irritated when i see that Ni-ger kneeling down in church to worship a Jewish god. If he is not ready for that post, he should leave that it! Nobody forced you to take it.
I wont be happy when is see the Oba of Ilesha doing same.
Crazy man!!!

deedeedee1:
The ooni of ife is not my king. I cant respect a man worships a different religion from our's. I am agnostic but i feel irritated when i see that Ni-ger kneeling down in church to worship a Jewish god. If he is not ready for that post, he should leave it! Nobody forced you to take it.
I wont be happy when is see the Oba of Ilesha doing same.
Crazy man!!!

ColonelDrake:

Lol didn't know you are an agnostic.
I am too. Christian by default
A hardcore religious unbeliever.
Pro Yoruba