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Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by yfirstson(m): 12:06pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
@Poster I quite like ur expressions and analysis. I would like to know more about your people and your country and wouldn't mind sharing my experience with you about Nigeria and Nigerians as well. Let me have your mail adress if you don't mind. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by martinosi: 1:56pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
O.K i guess we are going round and round in circles on this one Lets get some Questions Answered first then we can move on Question 1 - Why are there So many Non-Nigerians Making alot of Noise and kicking up a Fuss on a NIGERIAN SOCIAL FORUM Question 2 - Why is there any Argument about which women among any black nation are More Likely to Get a University Education, Get Married and STAY MARRIED!!! Question 3 - Why is their discussion about a foregone conclusion in regards to Nigerian vs Caribbean/African American women In case you dont know the Answer i will give you a good hint for you to Answer the Questions having Been Brought up in the UK and also lived in Nigeria doing my Univeristy there before returning to UK. Hints - Nigeria is the Biggest Black Nation in the World ( 151 Million People Duh!!!) Nigerian Community in the UK is the Most Influencial Black Community in Terms of Business/Commerce ie Nigerians Have the money !!!! Dont Hate!!! Nigerians Ranks amongst the Richest Blacks in the world in Real Terms(Dont Hate - "I said in Reat Terms" - If you need explainations to my points ask me!!!) Nigerians Males attending Univeristy inside and outside Nigeria in theschools year of 2009-10 Surpasses all the African American Males & FemalesPlus Caribbean Male and Females seeking entry to or are in a Higher Institution - Dont Hate!!! Nigerian Males and Females on Average are secure in their Cultural Identity and having lived in Nigeria and been in other african countries, Nigerians are the most Assertive and focused black Indivduals that i have ever known!!! Nigeria(NS) is(Are) the Only and i say only Black people where the Females cannot out-compete the Males in Educational Attainment - 90% of the Best students in Nigeria are Guys not Girls and the Nigerian GIRLS KNOW THIS AND ARE HAPPY WITH THIS!!! Over a Million Nigerian Students did the Entrance exam (JAMB) to enter Nigerian Univeristies in 2009!!! Nigerians are the Hardest to beat Intellectually in the class-room (Damm i know this first hand, as i came 3rd to last in my first year schooling in Nigeria, and i thought i was a bright kid when i was in the UK!!!) Nigeria has over 400 Ethnic Groups and i have to say this we are Not all Yuroba & Ibo as so many Caribbean & African-American Think!!! I kidd u not ie Ibibio,Idoma,Igala,, Ijaw, Ikpide, Ikwerre, Isoko,Itsekiri, Ebira,Edda,Efik,Egba, Eket, Ekoi, Ekpeye. Safe to say that 60% of all Nigerians in the uk are Yuroba, but untill you live in Nigeria you cannot appreciate the diverse cultural Dynamic!!! A black male or female that is born outside nigeria ie Europe or USA and is brought to nigeria to school at Secondary school level and then goes back to Europe or USA is 70% more likey to be sharper Academically, Sociall, Culturally and in life skills than his fellow Black American, Carribean & Nigerian!!! that has never lived in Nigeria. WHY IS THIS? Becuase a black male or female living in Nigeria can not use excuses for his failure or inadequacies as an indivdual and seeing black people all around him/her striving to better themselves, must take responsibility for his/her actions and choices My Conclusion is Nigerians are a Force to Benefit from irrespective of the Negative aspects IT IS FOOL-HARDY TO BET AGAINST THEM!!! |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by madlady(f): 2:17pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
^ Ok I hear you. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by baeyy(m): 4:15pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
DEAL WITH IT, If you were so intelligent as you claim you are you would know that it is utterly stupid to come to a Nigerian website to rant and insult our intelligence like we are the only ones that sterotype. Sweetheart we live in stratified society,a one of hierarchy, its all about am better than you, you and you. A Nigerian woman thinks they are the best (for the record we are) and the Carribbean Women thinks they are the best, hell even in Nigeria an igbo woman thinks she better than the hausa woman, and even in carribbaen it is the sameeeeeee, am not going to tell you are the best to make you feel better, and you shouldn't go to website to validate who you are. Do you know how many time i have had to deal with such sterotypes (Black vs White, Jamaican vs Carribean, Jamaicans vs Black Americans, Black American vs Africans, Ghana vs Nigerian, West Africa vs East Africa,South africa) listen its life deal with it, instead of coming here and spilling you ignorance and what are you even doing here if you not Nigerian? |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by madlady(f): 4:38pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
baeyy: I would NEVER say such things to anyone, I would never make judgements on all for a statemant made by a few. I am not the person who started/posted this thread. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by baeyy(m): 4:59pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
I would NEVER say such things to anyone, I would never make judgements on all for a statemant made by a few. I am not the person who started/posted this thread Who said you make jugdement based on someone, it doesn't have to be a group, don't come and acct all holy, you don't have to even say it sterotype is not just about a group of people, it the same thing like when you see someone in the night smoking weed, you immediately get scared that the person is dangerous, Its the same thing when you enter a room and judge the place by the people inside or by the smell. EVERYONE JUDGES SOMEONE BASED ON ONE LITTLE THING, YOU MIGHT NOT SAY BUT YOU THINKING IT, MS HOLY and i never judged on all for a statement made by a few atleast not in this post, neither did i say you should it is just how the world works |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by nihun(m): 5:11pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
baeyy: Can't you read!!!!@madlady been against the comments the tread starter posted from the start. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by agabaI23(m): 5:36pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
baeyy: You are such a silly cow for posting this rubbish. Real Nigerian women do not have your kind of complex because they know what they are worth. They do no have to put others down in order to feel good. Go and look at the status of this website. It is says for Nigerians and friends of Nigerians. And for your information, the person you are attacking has been chiding the OP. Get your facts right before you talk with your anus. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 5:51pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
WOW! i just love the results! I knew no matter how much i explain each sentence I would be accused of "hating on Nigerian women" "attacking Nigerian people" when CLEARLY, OBVIOUSLY, I am simply stating that we Jamaican AND Nigerian women are NOT too much different and also that I should not be judged according to my heritage or if i so choose to date an African man. In my personal experience I have had African women "try" to pick fights or even try to box with me because I was with an African man and as I told them I am telling you all my skin complexion does not lie. I am African away from Africa that is ALL I am saying. Not to mention I do not wear colorful tacky weaves, would NEVER bleach my ebony skin and I HATE weed, contrary to some of my Jamaican sisters, hey im just trying to squash the stereotype, and let me not forget that most of you who bash me and skim to read WHAT YOU WANT to read are the MAIN ONES whove left nasty comments about Jamaican women, let me futher digress by saying I am NOT the right one to attack! Just know that, To Mad lady you say your mother is a Jamaican Jew yet you tell me you "dont like the term Y.A.R.D.I.E and that she doesnt know what it means? not only is that a contradition but it doesnt make sense. You are "Jamaican" atleast you claim to be, Yardie is a term that we Jamaicans use to refer to ourselves. Yardie is a person who is either a resident of or have emigrated/children of emigrated from Jamaica which we call "Yard". Unlike the UK folks who want to type caste a yardie to mean Jamaican thug, its not so, Yardie to Jamaicans is what Salone is to Sierra Leoneans, As a "Jamaican" you should know that. And I never attacked Nigerian women I dont know what you are trying to prove or what you are reading by my tone is not that of anger but sadness, period. point. blank. 1 Like |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by agabaI23(m): 5:55pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
MzDarkSkin:You are entitled to your opinion and others are entitled to theirs Just do not commit the same offence that made you sad in the first place. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 5:56pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
baeyy: So what you are saying is that I dont speak out about something as ignorant as the divide all will be well? I'm sorry sweetheart but as I stated before my mother raised a rock of a woman, I refuse to keep silent, understand that. Secondly I NEVER said Jamaicans were better than Nigerian women, and I never will. For to say so would not only imply that I am a complete idiot but that I am suffering from an inferiority complex which most def. isnt the case, so lets try reading and asking before we judge, shall we? lastly this is the internet, I am entitled to join any website I so choose to so long as I am not intending to hurt, abuse or insult anyone which i clearly didnt so dont you dare question why I am here, ok. I respect Nigerian people because they have CLEARLY set MAJOR and many trends for ALL black people WORLD WIDE, and i cannot and will not take that from them, if anything I only ask for respect and acceptance. But you my friend look extremely ignorant, biased and prejudiced. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by madlady(f): 6:04pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
MzDarkSkin: Look I am not at war with you, you call yourself what you wish. My Mother is a JAMAICAN JEW, they do not use the term Yardi, she's 55 years old, do you expect her to talk the same slang as a 20 year old.
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Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 6:11pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
ifedy: CLEARLY you do not know me, . I respect all and RUN FROM NONE my girl. But before i get feisty in here I will ignore any comments such as the above or the idiot who said "when Nigerians speak Jamaicans should be quiet". I am surrounded by hypocracy, I am better than that and I know my intentions so keep them coming. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 6:13pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
madlady: 20 year old? LOL. 'Yardie' had been used by JAMAICANS OF ALL RACES INCLUDING JEWS since the 1930s and even futher, please! And this isnt war its a dialogue that ppl are trying to make into a cat fight. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 6:18pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
cultey: AWE I LOVE YOU TOO! You dont know how much that soothe my heart. God bless you! You are kind thank you so much. It is true we Jamaicans are from ALL over the West African coast AND from Angola/Congo. Igbo and Yoruba are very prevalent in the caribbean in terms of culture and practices so in essence we are in many ways a product of Nigerian people. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by madlady(f): 6:19pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
MzDarkSkin: My Mother is a black woman so do I not know what you mean "including Jews" I know with all your learning you will be aware the Jews of Jamaica come in many shades. Young lady you may be well read but until you walk in another man's shoes do not speak what you do not know. It does not matter how many years a term as been used WE DO NOT CALL each other yardi. YOU ARE TOO CONFRONTATIONAL, WE ARE NOT AT WAR ON THIS SITE, unless you wish to start one. PICK YOUR BATTLES WISELY
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Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 6:32pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
ThoniaSlim: I think you and i need to reread this together, because obviously things are NOT being mentioned, the hostility is not necessary, lets proceed. Well first and foremost let me introduce myself before I rant. Yes I am a newbie here. I actually found about this site while looking up relations between Africans (from the continent) and African descendants. Unfortunately I came across BULL. I've read posts about "why are nigerian men dating jamaican women?", "why dont nigerian men in the UK get along with Jamaican women?" I've seen some of the most pathetic posts about "Jamo women smoke weed (90 percent of them)", "Jamo women wear blue. black, lime green, yellow, blonde weave", "Jamo women will cut off your male anatomy" etc. Complete, utter RUBBISH. Let me just say I come here with NO disrespect intended, as I am a black woman therefore of the African vine that you all born on the land or to parents who were. I have dated African men and I adore them. I will also have you all know I am the product of a Jamaican mother and an African American father. What I read burned my soul because I was raised by a Jamaican women with so much dignity, respect and pride that it has rubbed off on me. The disrespect is MAJOR! I could not believe a people who claim to be the "super powers of Africa" and intelligent would say such vile, and disgusting stereotypical junk that has plaqued ALL black people. I do NOT appreciate the slander what so ever. I have NEVER worn blonde, lime green, pink, purple, blue, yellow etc weave, I do not find it cute nor will I ever. As for SOME of my Jamaican sisters? to each his own. Every orchard has its spoiled apples, Africans should know this first hand as African ppl are by far the most stereotyped humans on the planet. FIN! |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 6:34pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
My Mother is a JAMAICAN JEW ok, madlady: lol Jesus-a-mercy. Yu ano Jamaican yu a bantan di ting. Ok listen im done here. too much contradiction from one person im not down with that you said what you had to say about the issue I did, nada mas, GWEH! |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 6:41pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
martinosi: A wa di rasclat dis ya?!SERIOUSLY A WAM TU UNU?! And I am full of it? You have a severe chip on your shoulder! I think its beginning to peirce into your skull. I may not be Nigerian but I have maintained a HIGH GPA throught all of my public schooling and am enrolled in a high ranking school. And this is not an issue of who is smarter the fact remains that your skin is as thick and black as mine. Hard work and dedication benefits ALL! here in the US Jamaican people work hard and our rewards are great so do not pass your place, When a Nigerian speak the only time this Jamaica will be quiet is when its my turn to listen, know that. But you're rude! 1 Like |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Outstrip(f): 7:02pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
I have not really been around Jamaicans. The only two I have been around were guys and were cool. I know more about Jamaicans from what I read here on Nairaland. Which is why I am suprised that you are attacking the women when it is the men here who always berate jamaican women. Go search through the site. Most of them say they would rather bring an animal home. I am just stating what I read. On other Nigerian forums jamaican women are referred to as oversexed and classless. I would like to see some of these posts you are refering to when you say the women here attacked Jamaican women. If I saw it I will be the first to say it because I dislike bigotry of any kind. This is the first time I have heard that African women have said nasty things about Jamaican women on this forum |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 7:08pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
Outstrip: First it is unfortunate you dont know alot of us, we are cool people and we LOVE Africans despite our rejection. Some of us arent too bright and disassociate from Africa but we pray for the ignorant lost ones right? secondly 90 percent of the disrespect I read was from the women, Im NOT ASKING. As for the men who would "rather take hom animals" a battyman dem and I'm sure some of them are muma-lashies and have said bull but as I said to each his own. It says alot about someone's character to consider dating an animal to spite another HUMAN does it not? A coward is a coward, a blasted fool is a blasted fool. Simple. As for African Americans, I live in the US they dont have room to talk about anybody and do not dare approach us they rather try to befriend us or stay away-rightfully so I am not even interested in that! I didnt diss African women, I consider myself one so please reread. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by madlady(f): 7:29pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
MzDarkSkin: Check out what you are talking about before you chat , do you Know Sean Paul, him na black, him is a Jew, you never know dat. What's the JA motto you you have on your profile,well then. DIS WELL FUNNY . GAL YU NO EASY. GALANG
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Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 7:32pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
@ N101, It is obvious you misinterpreted my point. What I meant was that English is not our native or "first" language, And due to this fact, we are bound to have accents. In order words, no one should judge us for our accents, As English is only a "borrowed" or better-say "enforced" language on us. Hope this clarifies your misunderstanding. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Tcrack(m): 7:55pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
Omo, i did not want to read this loooong essay before but after i did, i am very glad i did.you help me finish all this niaja girls.this girls that only know how to demand for this and demand for that. infact, if i personally see you, i will personally date you. ha, my belle sweet. ton ba gun eshin ninu mi ko ni kose |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by na2day2(m): 8:18pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
is the OP still here? i go use cutlass on top of ur head ooo! |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by nihun(m): 9:06pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
@Mizdarkskin pikin, Your such a smartypants, are you sure you know your own Jamaican culture So you did not know you have mixed-race jews in the land you are screaming about.We even have black Jews in Nigeria. You are behaving like a witch. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Keran: 9:18pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
There are so many misinformation about Jamaican African Heritage. Our African descendant is Ghana and not Nigeria. As for this post is nothing but rubbish and stupidity. Every country as hardworking and lazy people. If one country only had hardworking persons then it would be boring and vice versa. Jamaica is consist of 2.7 million persons and not 3.5 mil. Let us respect the culture of others and stop the bickering and fighting. As for Nigerian males loving Jamaican females lmao. If the truth to be known Nigerian men only seek female outside of their country because they are looking for citizenship to enriched their lives and nothing more. Yes sometimes cupid play his part but how many Jamaicans are willing to put up with the Nigerian culture. Right now am inside a relationship with a Nigerian man and I have to keep praying for strength because I know that he need his citizenship and am willing to be there for him because I have fallen in love with him. But is it that he is willing to understand my culture the way I have put myself out to understand his. Anyway poster we are not know as Jamo I don't know where you get this from. Jamaican nicknames are Jamdowners or Yardies. As for that person that talk about Passa Passa please know that every culture as their ways of entertainment and so don't bashed what others deemed enjoyable to them. Stop the fighting amongst yourself because at the end of the day we are all Africans or black people.
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Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by nihun(m): 9:34pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
Keran: Jamdowners,Yardies and Jamos are all slang words. People should all be allowed to call themself what they wish. This is a pointless issue who cares what you call yourself. The slaves were taken from all over Africa, Nigeria included. Mind you give the guy his papers fast fast. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by hubgirl(f): 9:40pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
OH MY GOODNESS I AM SO ANGRY I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START!!!!! @ poster (mzdarkskin) , THIS WHOLE POST WAS PURE *BULLSHiT* ;, I know a number of jamaican women and they are WILD, CLASSLESS and CHEAP!!!! they do wear coloured weaves and all they do is have babies for several men, ninety percent of welfare in britain goes to carribean women with britain-born babies, its almost as if they hav children so as to get free acommodation & stipend frm d british govt!, there are statistics to prove this. you shudnt evn compare carribean women to Nigerian ones, Nigerian women are sooo much better. & Point of correction.;, Nigerian men rarely ever marry carribean women, they are only good for sexual affairs; PERIOD Nigerian Men like marrying foreign women for d hype!!! the hype of having a woman of anoda race, & half-cast children, or for VISA's / Citizenship, or even because foreign women are more "trusting" than Nigerian ones especially since foreign women dont know d truth bout african culture. so dont think its cos carribean women are so special. and i know nigerian women are very tough and smart; we are motivated and driven and that may intimidate some nigerian men into going after foreign women. but let me assure u that the BEST of Nigerian Men ALWAYS date & marry Nigerian Women. carribean girls u can hav d rest! |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by oyinda3(f): 9:55pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
if anything I only ask for respect and acceptance. respect and acceptance my a.ss ur motive is really clear from ur posts. ur here to bash naija women. so pls commot for here, yardie. lol |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by furacao(m): 10:04pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
@MzDarkSkin It appears that Jamaicans in the US are very different from Jamaicans in the UK. The issue of class and ambition which is supposed lacking in UK-Jamaicans is something that is seen very rampantly in London and Birmingham, two of the largest cities in the UK. Also with regards to respect, you might respect Africans where you are, America has a different take on colour and there is more unity amongst all Blacks from all backgrounds. Here in the UK, it is different. Not all but a lot of Jamaicans look at Africans as foreigners (yes!!) cos they don't have surnames like Carlisle or Marshall. They see Africans as bush and beneath them cos they wear traditional African attire. They also see them as descendants of those who sold them into slavery. A lot of Africans, especially Nigerians came to the UK at an older age and came to study. Most Jamaicans here were born here. The drive we bring with us is imbibed in our African culture but as a socialistic society, you don't have to work hard to get by, the government has a safety net for you. This has made our Jamaican brothers and sisters here a lot more lackadaisical attitude. And they think the ambitious Africans make them look bad with their middle class status and three degrees. |
Re: My View: Nigerian vs Carribbean Women by Nobody: 10:27pm On Feb 24, 2010 |
MzDarkSkin: OK. u still dey, stay there dey yarn okpas. |
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