adepeter2027:
Ohh God.
Characters full this romance section óò.. Romance Yaff scattered Una head

I love having atheists as friends

Blackhawk01:


You dey mind that kpomo lips?

Just tell us u dey trip for d lips

sunshineG:
I know that but I honestly see you guys in the same bracket

Nope.

We ain't same.

Why should I/we (atheist(s)) hate something I/we don't believe in?

That's madness.
I have never seen a atheist who hates God.

adepeter2027:

Christianity is good at counting the hits and ignoring the loss.

Back to ya message, you cited CHANGING of telecomm provider as an analogy, but do you know ya analogy is flawed?
One might decide to change his/her network provider due to numerous reasons which depend on personal preferences (like ROLL OUT OF BONUS FROM OTHER PROVIDERS, AVAILABILITY OF NEW PROVIDERS, PERSON INTEREST OF CHANGING PROVIDER, NEW PHONE ACCQUIRED DOESN'T SUPPORT SIMCARD OF THE CURRENT PROVIDER YOU'RE USING etc).

Frustration might not/may never even be a factor for changing provider. So you see ya analogy falls flat.

Acctually your examples on the Telecoms analogy only strengthen my point...because you only notice the promotions of other service provider when yours is providing nothing ( or you think it is providing nothing) this where the frustration comes in, and you decide to try other service providers .....I can agree that some levels of frustration maybe more than the others..

And there is a thing called switching barriers in business that prevents customers from switching, but let us keep it strictly to religion

Ericsunday619:
I see and communicate with spirits

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences

IF I ask you for evidences of how these spirits look now, you'd start to runn upandan

makydebbie:
You know say I be last born, na only me dem born for Ghana and na only me school in lagos.
All my siblings are Nigerians by birth, but I'm unique jare.
They were scared that I'll go wild, they weren't far from the truth. I'm a rebel.

adepeter2027:

Nope.

We ain't same.

Why should I/we (atheist(s)) hate something I/we don't believe in?

That's madness.
I have never seen a atheist who hates God.

I think you guys have the same thinking though. Since neither of you have faith in God

sunshineG:
Acctually your examples on the Telecoms analog only strengthen my point...because you only notice the promotions of other service provider when yours is providing nothing ( or you think it is providing nothing) this where the frustration comes in, and you decide to try other service providers .....I can agree some levels of frustration maybe more than the others..

And there is a thing called switching barriers in business that prevents customers from switching, but let us keep it strictly to religion

Hiannnnnn

It's not easy breaking down simple 1+1=2 to romancelanders óò....

Anyways, What about other factors that might make one have a rethink for wanting to change a provider? - this is an evidence that you ignore the loss.

What you see as FRUSTRATION is called COMPETITION between network providers.

Ericsunday619:
I believe am God

there is this norm church in America that have similar believe...it is classified as religious cult by Christians

sunshineG:
I think you guys have the same thinking though. Since neither of you have faith in God

Been a misotheist doesn't mean you quit ya believe, it only shows you hate god... It also doesn't equate you don't have faith, but you hate God.

BTW, faith is word that is used in context of CHRISTIANITY.

Atheists don't believe in faith

adepeter2027:

Hiannnnnn

It's not easy breaking down simple 1+1=2 to romancelanders óò....

Anyways, What about other factors that might make one have a rethink for wanting to change a provider? - this is an evidence that you ignore the loss.

What you see as FRUSTRATION is called COMPETITION between network providers.

it is you, who do not understand a simple thing

Let me make it simple....
There is a thing called the consumer black box in the brain of the consumers...it is the thought process of people before deciding to select something...if the person does not have any reason to change his present item for a similar one the person will not...it only happens when the person does not feel the current item supports his/her needs....hence the frustration with the previous item

Apply it that to religion... Simple as abc

Ericsunday619:
I love having atheists as friends

Atheists are good people just that the society we live in have painted them to be otherwise

adepeter2027:

Been a misotheist doesn't mean you quit ya believe, it only shows you hate god... It also doesn't equate you don't have faith, but you hate God.

BTW, faith is word that is used in context of CHRISTIANITY.

Atheists don't believe in faith

no faith is not a word used in the context of Christianity alone

Faith is used in different context to mean trust....hence since you both don't trust God I believe you are similar

sunshineG:
it is you, who do not understand a simple thing

Let me make it simple....
There is a thing called the consumer black box in the brain of the consumers...it is the thought process of people before deciding to select something...if the person does not have any reason to change his present item for a similar one the person will not...it only happens when the person does not feel the current item supports his/her needs....hence the frustration with the previous item

Apply it that to religion... Simple as abc

And my discussion still boils down to the fact that "YOU COUNT THE HITS AND IGNORE THE LOSS".

You're hell bent on using FRUSTRATION as a yardstick to ATHEISM in which you're wrong.....

There are many atheists who became atheist as a result of self questioning.
There are many people who became atheist because their parents are atheists.
There are many people who became atheist because they are surrounded by atheists.
There are many people who became atheist because they were logically convinced about atheism.
There are many people who became atheist because they are "FRUSTRATED" (lemme chip in ya word)
Etc

sunshineG:
no faith is not a word used in the context of Christianity alone

Faith is used in different context to mean trust....hence since you both don't trust God I believe you are similar

Hian...

We're deviating oo. Infact, we have deviated from alot from the primary topic "FRUSTRATION AS A REASON FOR BEING AN ATHEIST"

adepeter2027:

And my discussion still boils down to the fact that "YOU COUNT THE HITS AND IGNORE THE LOSS".

You're hell bent on using FRUSTRATION as a yardstick to ATHEISM in which you're wrong.....

There are many atheists who became atheist as a result of self questioning.
There are many people who became atheist because their parents are atheists.
There are many people who became atheist because they are surrounded by atheists.
There are many people who became atheist because they were logically convinced about atheism.
There are many people who became atheist because they are "FRUSTRATED" (lemme chip in ya word)
Etc

hmm if you say it is because the parents are atheists, I can give you that...since the child may not know any other thing.... Many Chinese are classic examples of these


But on self questioning? Hello! Why will you question your faith, if it serves your need...frustration! that is why

Those logical convinced as you claim must question themselves too now? Wouldn't they?

Mind you I didn't say atheism is a,yard stick for frustration, because you are now putting words into my mouth....I only said frustration is a yard stick of switching religion....and atheism is no different

adepeter2027:

Hian...

I quite agree with you to some extent. Anyways
Define trust in RELIGION
Define FAITH in religion

Tell if they are same

Remember we are having a discussion concerning God And Religion

faith and trust are always used interchangeably in sentences... So I don't know why you don't understand that.... and similar is the word I used not the same ( take note of that)

luminouz:

Na me you dey laugh abi?

sunshineG:
hmm if you say it is because the parents are atheists, I can give you that...since the child may not know any other thing.... Many Chinese are classic examples of these

Accepted. We are making progress

But on self questioning? Hello! Why will you question your faith if serves your need...frustration! that is why

Ooh god.
Wrong usage of the term frustration.

Can't you for once think outside the box?
Try to view things from other perspective.
Anyways, myself personally drifted from being religious to irreligious when I was self-questioning Christianity and its doctrines.

Those logical convinced as you claim must question themselves too now? Wouldn't they?

Not really. This could include exposure to logical debates about arguments for and against god existence.

Mind you I didn't say atheism is a,yard stick for frustration, because you are now putting words into my mouth....I only said frustration is a yard stick of switching religion....and atheism is no different

Chaiiii

Your confusion is real.
Read my previous message again

adepeter2027:

Hian...

We're deviating oo. Infact, we have deviated from alot from the primary topic "FRUSTRATION AS A REASON FOR BEING AN ATHEIST"

no we haven't, this was a different subject all along

sunshineG:
faith and trust are always used interchangeably in sentences... So I don't know why you don't understand that.... and similar is the word I used not the same ( take note of that)

I'm no longer going to address this part on "FAITH"

sunshineG:
no we haven't, this was a different subject all along

This is serious.

I hardly engage into online arguments oo (most especially if it connects to religion/god)

adepeter2027:

Accepted. We are making progress

Ooh god.
Wrong usage of the term frustration.

Can't you for once think outside the box?
Try to view things from other perspective.
Anyways, myself personally drifted from being religious to irreligious when I was self-questioning Christianity and its doctrines.

Not really. This could include exposure to logical debates about arguments for and against god existence.

Chaiiii

Your confusion is real.
Read my previous message again

ok why do you question your christain doctrines?

When you are exposed to logical debate, your brain questions your previous believes, don't they? Why did you question them? Simple
There is a superior logic...isn't there? ....why is the logic superior you might ask? Simple! Because your previous logic does no longer suit you.... it is the frustration with your previous midset....



No I didn't contradict my self... You made it seem like I was only targeting atheism....but I clarified that I was only arguing on basis of how human react to religion....with atheism as reference..

Don't quote me out of context again....

Victornezzar:

U think I wanted 2 insult u
smh

I love your sense of judgements.

sunshineG:
ok why do you question you christain doctrines?

When you are exposed to logical debate, your brain questions your previous believes, don't they? Why do you question them? Simple
There is a superior logic...isn't it....why is the logic superior you might ask? Simple! Because your previous logic does no longer suit you.... it is frustration with your previous midset....



No I didn't contradict my self... You made seems like I was only targeting atheism....but I clarified that I was only arguing on basis of how human react to religion....with atheism as reference..

Don't quote me out of context again....

You win....

I give up

adepeter2027:

This is serious.

I hardly engage into online arguments oo (most especially if it connects to religion/god)

no check where that argument started.....It started when I said both atheism and the other one is similar....it is quite different from the context of our main argument

adepeter2027:

You win....

I give up

bro I am enjoying this

sunshineG:
no check where that argument started.....It started when I said both atheism and the other one is similar....it is quite different from the context of our main argument

Before I handover d award for winning to you, below is a DEFINITION of FRUSTRATION

frus·tra·tion
noun
the feeling of being upset or annoyed, especially because of inability to change or achieve something.

With this, se gobe

sunshineG:
bro I am enjoying this

But I'm no longer enjoying it.

I'm feeling stressed up and frustrated currently with the way you equate orange to apple, pulling strawman, committing ad-hoc and Ad-hominem

adepeter2027:

Before I handover d award for winning to you, below is a DEFINITION of FRUSTRATION

frus·tra·tion
noun
the feeling of being upset or annoyed, especially because of inability to change or achieve something.

With this, se gobe

yes that is exactly what I am sayiing....check out the synonyms

Upset or annoyed are the key words

the prevention of the progress, success, or fulfilment of something

That is another definition that suits the context of our argument

adepeter2027:

But I'm no longer enjoying it.

I'm feeling stressed up and frustrated currently with the way you equate orange to apple, pulling strawman, committing ad-hoc and Ad-hominem

bro how

sunshineG:
bro how

Cos I have already attended to the points you raised.