patriot4: Stop quoting your face saving men. The reporter is a red cross agent. He knows exactly what is happening.

Red cross agents are just people. Nothing more. There is no way he or she knows what the SANDF is plaining.

andrewza:

You have yet to show proof of that. Even though I have asked many times.


And if we did surrenda why do we still have all our wepaons and gear. Please explian that.

You are in protection of the french 600 soldiers, and I don't think you still have all your weapons, even if you did, you are not considered a threat by seleka.

andrewza:

Show proof and what radar. Tou do know there are many kinds of Radar sytems(your dron has none)

Dude, NNS andoni was 100% developed in nigeria.. Nigerian university students develop radar systems as school projects(That's not even a big deal).

patriot4:
Look, it says right here that the rebels lost only 38 men.
"
Casualties and losses

35 rebels killed,
8 rebels injured
"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_African_Republic_conflict_(2012%E2%80%93present)

Any body that posts wikpeadia has a source is a fool. I could log on to it and say they lost 50000 if I wated to.

They give no source for the losses on the rebels, car army or civlians.

But you know that. You just desprat.

patriot4: Andrewza, please show you have a brain. The rebels never lost 500 men.

It has been the only number given. And was not given by the SANDF even. I am inclin to bielfe untill it is disproven. It has yet to be disproven.

scipher:
Dude, NNS andoni was 100% developed in nigeria.. Nigerian university students develop radar systems as school projects(That's not even a big deal).

What type of radar. There ar many kinds.

So did you build the MTU egiens that power it. Because that would be bi news.

andrewza:

What type of radar. There ar many kinds.

So did you build the MTU egiens that power it. Because that would be bi news.

i'm not an engineer, but when components are purchased, they make it known to the public.. in this case, nigerian engineers and scientist developed it locally.. 100%.. our engineers developed our satellite as well..

patriot4:
You are in protection of the french 600 soldiers, and I don't think you still have all your weapons, even if you did, you are not considered a threat by seleka.

Lol if you kind find a source for any thing you just said I will eat my cell phone.

scipher:
i'm not an engineer, but when components are purchased, they make it known to the public.. in this case, nigerian engineers and scientist developed it locally.. 100%.. our engineers developed our satellite as well..

In this very forum the metioned that the engiens and eltronis and naigastion equimpent was sourced from out side nigeria.

andrewza:

In this very forum the metioned that the engiens and eltronis and naigastion equimpent was sourced from out side nigeria.

source

andrewza:

Red cross agents are just people. Nothing more. There is no way he or she knows what the SANDF is plaining.

Here again it says you depend on french forces to get your men back:
"Des médias ont affirmé que deux avions s’étaient pré-positionnés en Ouganda pour évacuer les soldats restants et que les Sud-africains dépendaient des forces françaises tenant l’aéroport international de Bangui pour sécuriser leur retour à la maison"
http://www.lanouvellecentrafrique.info/?p=4823
"South Africa defence chiefs are currently reliant on French forces holding on to the international airport in Bangui. "
http://ewn.co.za/2013/03/24/SANDF-confirms-casualties-in-CAR
"Unfortunately evidence of dead rebels is only coming from the SA government and nowhere else. If hundreds of rebels were killed, common sense dictates that an even higher number would have been injured. Therefore it is simple logic that hospitals in Bangui would have been overwhelmed with casualties. Organisations such as Medicins Sans Frontiers and the Red Cross would have been reporting and issuing statistics on these casualties."
http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/What-happened-in-Bangui-20130329

"Again the odd thing is that apart from the South African government nobody else is talking about stacks of dead bodies. Certainly not the Red Cross, Medicins Sans Frontiers nor the French who also have boots on the ground."
http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/What-happened-in-Bangui-20130329

patriot4: "Again the odd thing is that apart from the South African government nobody else is talking about stacks of dead bodies. Certainly not the Red Cross, Medicins Sans Frontiers nor the French who also have boots on the ground."
http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/What-happened-in-Bangui-20130329

even the cnn.... SA just like extolling herself for no reason... nobody sees them And they won't stop fooling themselves

I think I have found out who andrewza is:
content removed for privacy reasons

I know it is him, I got him commenting on an other forum with his Facebook account.

So what do you have to say mr Andrew Coetzee aka andrewza ?

patriot4: I think I have found out who andrewza is:
http://www.facebook.com/andrew.coetzee.71

lol

""It was at Boali, about 70 kilometres (45 miles) from Bangui, that the fighting was hardest against the South Africans. I lost six men, the South Africans 35," he said. South African President Jacob Zuma announced a death toll of 13 troops.

Hakouma says that the rebel chief of general staff, General Issa Issaka, was wounded in the leg leaving Hakouma to take up the leadership of rebel forces for a final assault that lasted "scarcely two hours" once the "South Africans were no longer fighting."
"
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/130329/tour-at-central-africas-presidential-palace-rebels#
mr andrew Coetzee, what about this ?

An other source:
"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said South African troops were preparing to leave the country."
"Regional peacekeeping sources said the South Africans had fought alongside the Central African Republic's army on Saturday to prevent rebels entering the capital."
"They took substantial losses and have asked for French support to load their troops and take off," said the source."
http://news.yahoo.com/c-african-republic-rebels-capital-france-sends-troops-041806563.html

sheyie2007: even the cnn.... SA just like extolling herself for no reason... nobody sees them And they won't stop fooling themselves

Under apartheid, they perfected the art of propaganda. Now they are using it heavilly on their population, and on the rest of Africa to make people think they are relevent.
They are not.

http://m.iol.co.za/article/view/e/1.1493841

Now can you end your notion that SANDF rettreated.

andrewza: http://m.iol.co.za/article/view/e/1.1493841

Now can you end your notion that SANDF rettreated.

You guys are giving urselves credits that you didn't earn.. yet, you still have the balls to post a co.za domain as a credible source?

andrewza: http://m.iol.co.za/article/view/e/1.1493841

Now can you end your notion that SANDF rettreated.

Look I have posted numerous reports saying SA got badly beaten, including UN, Redcross, French and rebel sources.
It might be time for you to admit it. I know you were (or might still be) a South african soldier.
But, your boys lost, take it like a man.
Your boys just don't know how to fight.
By the way, have you started swallowing your mobile phone yet ?

patriot4:
Look I have posted numerous reports saying SA got badly beaten, including UN, Redcross, French and rebel sources.
It might be time for you to admit it. I know you were (or might still be) a South african soldier.
But, your boys lost, take it like a man.
Your boys just don't know how to fight.
By the way, have you started swallowing your mobile phone yet ?

you have yet post any such post every thing was from uniformerd or biased posts. so i will take this has the proof since the man who wrote it is well respected amoung milltary circels. Somthing your not nor any of your sources

sheyie2007:
You guys are giving urselves credits that you didn't earn.. yet, you still have the balls to post a co.za domain as a credible source?

If you scroll down to the bottom you can see who wrote it. It was not writen by some reporter.

And who els is covering the details of The SANDF mission to CAR. If you thing it is wrong phon him up.

andrewza:

you have yet post any such post every thing was from uniformerd or biased posts. so i will take this has the proof since the man who wrote it is well respected amoung milltary circels. Somthing your not nor any of your sources

The man is a South african national. And he is "South African correspondent for Jane's Defence Weekly".
Come on, stop taking people for fools. Coetzee, you can do better than that.

Andrewza is the reason why aliens won't talk to us

andrewza:


If you scroll down to the bottom you can see who wrote it. It was not writen by some reporter.

And who els is covering the details of The SANDF mission to CAR. If you thing it is wrong phon him up.

"
South Africa can, clearly, not ‘deter’ aggression by any outside power with the strength to deploy a serious military force into the region, but it can develop a level of ‘deterrence’ that will discourage any such adventure by a major power and deter lesser aggressors.
"
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28002&Itemid=112

patriot4:
The man is a South african national. And he is "South African correspondent for Jane's Defence Weekly".
Come on, stop taking people for fools. Coetzee, you can do better than that.

Actually no. He is so far the only persone with any experiance in the milltary circel who has comminted. There for I will take his word over some uninformend.

andrewza:

Actually no. He is so far the only persone with any experiance in the milltary circel who has comminted. There for I will take his word over some uninformend.

He was once an SA soldier.
It is clear that he is only being patriotic.

sheyie2007: Andrewza is the reason why aliens won't talk to us

They did all ready but they fell for a nigerian 419 scam so left in anger.

are you the one in that fb page? I like the suit on you