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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:21pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
nig2change: Pls SA troops were fighting child soldiers. See link. http://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/Child-soldiers-killed-in-Central-African-Republic-South-African-troops-claim/articleshow/19309919.cms?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweetsI'm still laughing |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:31pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
Let's call a spade a spade, the mission was poorly planned and the soldiers(incompetent) were deployed in a haste .. thatz all However, I still believe in *shan*deaf* |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:40pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
nig2change: Pls SA troops were fighting child soldiers. See link. http://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/Child-soldiers-killed-in-Central-African-Republic-South-African-troops-claim/articleshow/19309919.cms?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweetsNeedless to say that five hundred dead kids would have made the news everywhere in the world, and the Red Cross would have picked on that, such as other NGOs, so I get the fealing SANDF surrendered to children. That is the ultimate redicule. Enough said. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:23pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
patriot4: And the point of bring out that is. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:26pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
patriot4: Names of NGO's and links their reports, please. Really. Because I was not convinced. I have given the most comprehnsive report on the events. Untill you can dissprove it, it only shows your blidness to the truth. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:30pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
nig2change: Pls SA troops were fighting child soldiers. See link. http://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/Child-soldiers-killed-in-Central-African-Republic-South-African-troops-claim/articleshow/19309919.cms?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweets A large portion of the rebels wheer in there teens. It funny how Nigerians will accept what south african sources say when it suits them but dissmiss what dose not. Even if it is the very dame source. And nigeria fough child solders in seirr leon. So your point is what again. A built from a 14 year old is just has deadly has a built from a 40 year old. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:32pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
patriot4: Names of NGO's and links their reports, please. even if @andrewza wants to surrender to @patriot4, he won't be able because south African soldiers lost their white flag while running away so fast from the CAR rebels. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:34pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
patriot4: Needless to say that five hundred dead kids would have made the news everywhere in the world, and the Red Cross would have picked on that, such as other NGOs, so I get the fealing SANDF surrendered to children. That is the ultimate redicule. First not all of them where kids Second both the un and red cross have mentioned the fact child solders where used 3rd a 16 year old is considerd a child by law. 4th find a source that says sa surrended at all 5th. I find it funny hoe you agree with sa sourses when the suit you |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:35pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
agaugust: Once again find a credbrill source to back up your claim or sit down a keep dreaming about your nigerian navy. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:48pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
andrewza:"A built from a 14 year old is just has deadly has a built from a 40 year old" Lord of war |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EFCC1(m): 7:57pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
5 SA soldier killed in an helicopter crash while on patrol...RIP to d dead |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:02pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
patriot4: Yes. But it is true non the less. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:05pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
EFCC1: 5 SA soldier killed in an helicopter crash while on patrol...RIP to d dead To give more detials. It was a A109 in the kruger national park. And it was a anti rhino patrol Since there still a investigastion not much can be said on the cause. Though A109 where grounded not long ago due to manfuctor deffects discoverd. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:21pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
andrewza:Why are your boys not in mali ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:28pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
andrewza: where is @snydergp and @msauza ? both KIA or MIA in CAR ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:38pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
patriot4: Why are your boys not in mali ? We where never asked. Ecomog dose not SA since the SAS drakensberg insodent. Money. With out montary support SA will not deploy a force so far from her borders unless it was only a small force. And what the point of sending a few hundred in to mali. Not our problem really. If the securty in Mali get bade both Nigeria and Chad will suffer. Hence those to sent a large force. How ever SA has only limted inrtisted in mali(we funded some museum) and has no extrimist islamic force. Those are logical resaons. How ever since Zuma did say if the UN/AU put in mission in place SA would provide men. I would go with the first one has the resone. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:01pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
agaugust: |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:04pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
andrewza:OK, I guess it is a problem of funding. Please tell me, why does SA keep protecting dictators ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:07pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
...dictators like laurent gabgbo of ivory coast... |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:12pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
agaugust: ...dictators like laurent gabgbo of ivory coast...Qaddafi, Gbagbo, Bozizé, Mugabe. humm |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:45pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
andrewza: Inasmuch as I do not subscribe to my compatriot @patriot4 invading your privacy as he has done, the post above shows that we(nigerians) have been right all along. As your country man in the attachment posted by @patriot4 alludes to all of what we have said, and continue to say on this thread. SANDF personnel were roundly defeated by SELEKA rebels in CAR and your troops ran away in apparent clear show of cowardice. Your EGO, andrewza would not allow you accept the true fact that you were defeated in CAR. If this is how your fellow service men in SANDF think, I'm sorry to say, you'd get defeated again, and again in CAR. You should be humble, take the defeat like a man. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:51pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:01pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
nig2change: Pls SA troops were fighting child soldiers. See link. http://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/Child-soldiers-killed-in-Central-African-Republic-South-African-troops-claim/articleshow/19309919.cms?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweets i thought south africans say AK-47 rifle is outdated, why did they die when child soldiers fired AK-47 bullets on south african army in CAR ? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:05pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
Can someone end this topic please ? I am starting to have pitty for the South africans. At the begginning I just couldn't take the level of ignorance they were using to mock us, now I just feel sad for them. Please moderator, end this topic. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:11pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
The picture above is that of the wheeled APC. However, this same photo had been used by many news agencies to represent the nigerian army made APC(igirigi 1) , defenceweb.co.za, helped to peddle this mis-information. The true information is , the APC above is owned by a privately owned nigerian defence company (PROFORCE), who are a major defence contractor to the federal govt of nigeria. The company based in abeokuta, also makes armoured patrol crafts, bullet proof vest & helmets, amoured quick response vehicles, armoured urban trucks(same as those used to transport SWAT teams) and many more. Nigeria deployed many of these APC's to mali. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:27pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
patriot4: Can someone end this topic please ? has andrewza finally got one of his teenage sisters agree to marry you ? i suspect your sudden change of heart ! lol |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:30pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
@andrewza exposed via facebook. P O S T E D C O N T E N T R E M O V E D by @agaugust for privacy reasons. @andrewza i apologize to you for this post, i have deleted your photo and 'data' |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:36pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
Henry120: Nigeria has a new wheeled armoured personnel carrier/ operational support vehicle. PROFORCE1 awesome nigerian made weapon, you forgot to add source weblink, i help you add that below. good job @henry120 weblink source http://beegeagle./2012/06/29/exclusive-the-soon-to-be-inducted-made-in-nigeria-apc/ .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:19am On Apr 01, 2013 |
patriot4: IDIOT |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:11am On Apr 01, 2013 |
agaugust: @andrewza exposed via facebook. nigerian in france sniffs out the 'notorious' south african andrewza of nairaland...see his photo. It is un-ethical to do this. If @andrewza wanted his photo on nairaland, he would have put it on his profile here on nairaland himself. It doesn't make any sense to go about invading other peoples privacy. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:12am On Apr 01, 2013 |
agaugust: @andrewza exposed via facebook. nigerian in france sniffs out the 'notorious' south african andrewza of nairaland...see his photo. It is un-ethical to do this. If @andrewza wanted his photo on nairaland, he would have put it on his profile here on nairaland himself. It doesn't make any sense to go about invading other peoples privacy. You and patriot3 should apologise to the man. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:33am On Apr 01, 2013 |
This is the hilux( pick up truck) used for counter-terrorism operations up-armoured by proforce. The picture quality might not be very good, however una go manage am like that The second photo, same purpose as the first.
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