CAMEROONPRIDE: Where are we?

agaugust: @andrewza exposed via facebook.


P O S T E D C O N T E N T R E M O V E D by @agaugust for privacy reasons.

@andrewza i sincerely apologize to you for this post, i have deleted your photo and 'data'

agaugust:

nairaland

Henry120:

It is un-ethical to do this. If @andrewza wanted his photo on nairaland, he would have put it on his profile here on nairaland himself. It doesn't make any sense to go about invading other peoples privacy.

You and patriot3 should apologise to the man.

patriot4: OK, I guess it is a problem of funding.
Please tell me, why does SA keep protecting dictators ?

Henry120:

Inasmuch as I do not subscribe to my compatriot @patriot4 invading your privacy as he has done, the post above shows that we(nigerians) have been right all along. As your country man in the attachment posted by @patriot4 alludes to all of what we have said, and continue to say on this thread.

SANDF personnel were roundly defeated by SELEKA rebels in CAR and your troops ran away in apparent clear show of cowardice.

Your EGO, andrewza would not allow you accept the true fact that you were defeated in CAR. If this is how your fellow service men in SANDF think, I'm sorry to say, you'd get defeated again, and again in CAR. You should be humble, take the defeat like a man.

agaugust:



i thought south africans say AK-47 rifle is outdated, why did they die when child soldiers fired AK-47 bullets on south african army in CAR ?

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andrewza: south africa, where one of our type 209s desstroyed a NATO task force.

andrewza: USS NORMANDY (CG 60) SNMG1 Flagship (USA)
Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruiser

HNLMS EVERTSEN (F805) (Netherlands)
Zeven Provincien Class Defence and Command Frigate

FGS SPESSART (A1442) (Germany)
Rhone Class Replenishment Tanker

HMCS TORONTO (FFH 333) (Canada)
Halifax Class Multi-role Patrol Frigate

NRP ALVARES CABRAL (F331) (Portugal)
Vasco de Gama Class Frigate

HDMS OLFERT FISCHER (F355) (Denmark)
Niels Juel Class Corvette

Those where the ships.

Henry120: Nigeria has a new wheeled armoured personnel carrier/ operational support vehicle. PROFORCE1

PROFORCE LIMITED’s Pf1 is a wheeled Tactical Armoured Personnel Carrier (APC) capable of traveling across rough terrain and fording water or any other form of obstacles up to 800mm depth.
The vehicle has excellent battlefield or civil deployment mobility and is extremely versatile. The Pf1 has been specially designed and manufactured by PROFORCE (Defence) LIMITED. The Pf1 has the seating capacity of ten (10) personnel including driver and commander.

THE BALLISTICS
Transparent & opaque ballistic materials that are installed on all of the makes and models of Proforce Limited’s Armored Personnel Carriers-APCs are routinely and carefully being tested in-house as well as by certified independent test laboratories.

VARIANTSCHARACTERISTICS TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION
- Police–Pf1
- Armoured Personnel Carrier-Pf1
- Combat Surveillance–Pf1
- Missile Weapon Carrier-Pf1
- Command & Control Vehicle-Pf1
- Ambulance-Pf1Fording: 800mm
Slide Slope: 40%
Gradient: 60%
Obstacle: 500mm
Trench: 750mmMTU 4R 106 Td21 Diesel Turbocharged – Intercooled( Euro 3) Welded Ballistic Steel Armour Complied to STANAG 4569 Level 1 Controls and Instruments
DIMENSION & WEIGHTPf1 – MILITARYPf1 – POLICE
Length (mm)51005474
Width (mm)24902600
Height (mm)25002460
Ground Clearance (mm)367374
Wheelbase (mm)29002900
Approach Angle (deg)4529.2
Departure Angle (deg)5037.2
Kerb Weight (kg)78507850
Combat Weight (kg)1000010000
Payload (kg)20002000
PERFORMANCE CHARACTERISTICS ENGINE
Max. forward speed (km/h): 110
Max. reverse speed (km/h): 15
Min. crawl speed (km/h): 4
Cruising speed (km/h): 90
Cruising range (km/h): 500
Cruising long range tank (km/h): 800
Acceleration 0 to 80 (secs): 26
Turning circle (wall to wall): 14.5
Power to weight ratio: 21.5Type: MTU 4R 106 Td21, 4cy. In-line. Diesel Turbocharged-Intercooled (Euro 3)
Displacement (cc): 4800
Gross power (kW/rpm):160(218hp)/2200
Peak Torque (Nm/rpm): 750/1500
TRANSMISSION, DRIVE LINE & SUSPENSION

Transmission: Allison 2000 series, 4th generation automatic, 5 speed auto with lock-up
Transfer case: ZF VG 750, 2 speed with lock-upfitted
Axles: Axles 3000 series planetary axles
Types: XZL Michelin 365/80 R20 fitted with Hutchinson VFI run flat insert(CTIS system-optional
Wheel/Rims: 11x 20, aluminium split rim
Suspension: Hydro-pneumatic multi-link, spring element; hydro-pneumatic studs, axles control: 3 longitudinal links with panhard rod
Brakes: Air operated spring disc with ABS
Parking brake: Pneumatic control on wheels of 2nd axles
Steering: ZF 8095, hydraulic assisted integral re-circulation ball with variable ratio steering gear box
FEATURES

Electrical system: 24 V(2 X 12V)
Air conditioning system: 6 kW cooling capacity, spot cooling
Armament – main: 7.62mm GPMG (Pintle Mount), 2 banks of 3 x 76mm Grenade Launcher
Armour protection-(Kinetic-all round): STANAG 4569 Level 2 (Level 4-optional), STANAG 4569 Level 1(Level 2 & 4- optional)
Land mine: STANAG 4569 Level 2b (Level 3a- optional)
Winch: 4,000kg (9,000lb) electric type & portable
CCTV system: Heavy duty outdoor for all round observation
PA system: Siren PA with speaker
Searchlights: Fitted at front & rear of the vehicle
OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT

Radio communication system: I x VHF, I x HF with intercom 4 crew, I x HF with intercom 2 crew
Wheel mounting/dismounting: For run flat tyre system
Armament – main: 7.62mm GPMG (Pintle Mount), 2 banks of 3 x 76mm Grenade Launcher
BC system: Overpressure system

andrewza:


though there is nothing wrong with it, if i was desghing it i would make a few changes, based on SA experiance with these types of small wheeled APCs.

1 larger windows or go like SA new APC,s and IFV and have cammras all round with internal mointors. this is for all round visbielty.

roof hatches in the passger compartment and fireports. allows you to have a infantry sectsion fire while moving.

patriot4: Can someone end this topic please ?
I am starting to have pitty for the South africans.
At the begginning I just couldn't take the level of ignorance they were using to mock us, now I just feel sad for them.
Please moderator, end this topic.

agaugust: @andrewza exposed via facebook.


P O S T E D C O N T E N T R E M O V E D by @agaugust for privacy reasons.

@andrewza i apologize to you for this post, i have deleted your photo and 'data'

andrewza: south africa, where one of our type 209s desstroyed a NATO task force.

andrewza: USS NORMANDY (CG 60) SNMG1 Flagship (USA)
Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruiser

HNLMS EVERTSEN (F805) (Netherlands)
Zeven Provincien Class Defence and Command Frigate

FGS SPESSART (A1442) (Germany)
Rhone Class Replenishment Tanker

HMCS TORONTO (FFH 333) (Canada)
Halifax Class Multi-role Patrol Frigate

NRP ALVARES CABRAL (F331) (Portugal)
Vasco de Gama Class Frigate

HDMS OLFERT FISCHER (F355) (Denmark)
Niels Juel Class Corvette

Those where the ships.

Henry120: This is the hilux( pick up truck) used for counter-terrorism operations up-armoured by proforce. The picture quality might not be very good, however una go manage am like that


The second photo, same purpose as the first.

agaugust:





the south african navy submarine was used to target 5 old outdated NATO warships and only 1 modern frigate



HOLLAND's naval ship is a 2005 technology stealth ship and is the only modern ship in the whole 6 ship NATO task force

the 5 other NATO navy ships are much older technology and close to their retirement age, they are :

USA navy ship is 1988 technology and now retired from a service
CANADA's navy ship is 1990 technology
PROTUGAL SICK BABY OF EUROPE's navy ship is 1991 technology
DENMARK navy's ships is 1981 technology and now retired from service
GERMANY's naval ship is an ordinary fuel storage tanker ship with 1977 technology

the SOUTH AFRICAN navy submarine is 2006 technology used against 5 outdated old warships with inferior technology


the NATO navies had better warships but did not bring them to south africa. also, no british, french, german or italian navy warship was present in the NATO force, and these are the 4 most powerful NATO countries in europe.

British navy stealth destroyer warship HMS Daring and US navy Arleigh Burke stealth destroyer warship have both been fully operational since 2006, a year before the so called defeat of NATO warships and they did not come to south africa then for the NATO war game.

nigerian navy too can use our 2009 stealth eagle class fast attack vessel NNS ZARIA to missile target lock the same american 1988 warship because it cannot see the nigeria stealth vessel built with the worlds best stealth technology in austarlia the world stealth masters, then we come to nairaland and boast that nigeria navy defeated american warship !

EGYPT HAS PAID FOR 2 OF THE SAME SOUTH AFRICAN TYPE 209 SUBMARINE

On 31 August 2012, the Egyptian navy commander General/ Osama Ahmed stated that a contract has been signed with the German side to build two type 209 submarines for the Egyptian navy including the latest technology this type has reached.

ALGERIA HAS PAID FOR 2 OF THE SAME SOUTH AFRICAN VALOUR CLASS STEALTH FRIGATES

NIGERIA HAS PAID FOR 2 TYPE 056 LIGHT FRIGATE STEALTH WARSHIPS WITH YEAR 2013 LATEST TECHNOLOGY

these 3 african navies are strongly contesting power for the sea with south african navy, and we cannot know who will win the sea war until the navies clash for real war, not just posting photos on nairaland.

stop deceiving yourselves in south africa, your military can be beaten and r.oasted as we just saw now in CAR by local illiterate rebels.


weblink source : google internet wikipedia of all the ships named in this post, and their full details will be confirmed
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andrewza:

1990 is not old for a ship. Most of the USN is that old or older. The point made is, that fleet has more ASW caperbielties than the entire nigerian navy. That is a fact.

agaugust:

thanks i have removed my post of his photo and 'data' and i also apologized.

i think @andrewza pushed @patriot4 to the wall with his thinking or lack of thinking, such that the guy wanted to sniff out who he really was. i will be honest with you all, since the day i was born, i have NEVER met any human being that thinks like @andrewza, his comments many times shows he does not think or he does not want to think.

it may be a medical issue, i guess, so i stopped insulting him even when he provokes me. he has Dyslexia, but he didnt tell us early enough. he also didnt tell us he is white until last week.

i have decided to be tolerant of him because of the medical disclosure. maybe it affects his thinking once in a while because he just writes posts/comments that can drive people nuts. very annoying comments.

imagine his comment on nigerian navy new type 056 light frigate, even when i posted web sources that it is technically a light frigate based on weaponry,functions,and manufacturer' specifications, and with english dictionary definitions of warships types, he still said its a orvette not light frigate. very annoying.

same way he said south african navy can challenge USA navy with valour class frigates that the americans will sink in one hour.

the south african GV6 gun has manufacturer tested maximum range of 73km, he claimed it is 100km, crazy like a ballistic missile ! he said his source is guinness books of record and he couldnt quote it to prove and is still adamant on it.

@andrewza can be very annoying, and he gets worse by the day, almost becoming like @snydergp

his strange ways made the france guy sniff him out on facebook.

agaugust:


1990 is not old for a war ship? why did south africa buy 2005 valour frigates then?

year 2005 submarine hiding under the wide ocean targeting a year 1990 warship exposed on the ocean surface, ask your little son in elementary school to predict the winner. i have made my point. case closed.

andrewza:
The link you gave me called it a corvet.

agaugust:

you speak english ? or only dutch/afrikaans ? i gave you a whole internet wikipedia definition details that says corvettes and frigates are names used interchangeably depending of the role and weapons on the ship, not only a matter of hull size, and that certain class of corvettes are also called light frigates.

NNS thunder is no frigate despite its size 115m

TYPE 056 is light frigate based on its anti-ship/submarine/aircraft ability,and on board helicopter despite its size 95m

the type 056 weapons and ECM are about equal to the valour frigate, gun size, missiles, and all. only real war can prove a winner between them.

a valour frigate is in great danger facing a type 056 light frigate, the type 056 missiles can sink an aircraft carrier, but NN thunder is no threat.

updaate your knwoledge and dont confuse other people here :

"
Corvettes are fast (around 25 knots or better), well-armed ships that displace between 700 and 2000 tons. A corvette is generally not intended for extended ocean-going operations, and is best suited for regional operations. Corvettes are generally the smallest platforms capable of accommodating the sensors, weapons, and combat systems needed to operate in a medium threat environment. Corvettes are sometimes referred to as light frigates (FFLs). It can be assumed that the hull design for a corvette and that of an offshore patrol vessel are very similar. The differences will be in propulsion and outfitting. Corvettes will have higher speed and therefore less endurance and range than OPV, much greater armament, and less space for provisions and habitability."

weblink source :

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-navy/33514-what-difference-between-frigate-destroyer.html#ixzz2PBcDaiDd

andrewza:


I doubt the ECM/ECW are the same has a valour

Lol sink a aircraft carrier. Yes if you hit the thing enough times. There is only one way to sink a aircraft carrie with one shot. And that is a nuke. Hence there are nukelare torpedos, mines and anti ship missiles.

agaugust:

i am no dummy, i think and you know i think. i never said one missile will sink a carrier. type 056 can launch rapidly 4 anti ship missiles and 6 torpedoes on one target.

one excocet missile sank a whole british destroyer HMS sheffield in falklands war, a destroyer is bigger than a frigate.

i think before i talk, even though i am not perfect, i am human. only God is perfect.


ECM/ECW weapons valour vs type 056 cannot be determined by us, only real war can determine the winner. type 056 carries the bst chinese technology as the ship just entered service last year 2012 and is designed to counter the best and most modern american navy warship and submarine threat to china in the south sea of china and taiwan.

the chinese put all their best into the type 056 and it is replacing all chinese frigates.

nigeria is buying two for its navy, so your south african navy is going to face a very very modern nigeria navy stealth warship, NOT NNS Aradu and NNS Thunder.

nigerian navy will be a more powerful force in africa when those new stealth warships arrive

it will also be the most balanced naval force in africa with combination of world class 300 vessels massive and modern brown water force that egypt, algeria, south africa CANNOT match in any way. nigerian navy has the the largest and most modern brown water navy in the world, even america CANNOT beat us in that aspect.

i have googled USA, Russia, China, and all major brown water navy forces in the world, NONE can challenge nigerian navy.

nigerian coastline is only 850km, so the two new 95m stealths paid for and under construction, and the two planned 110m stealth frigates will be enough with our six new 38m stealth fast strike crafts (four on order, but two delivered NNS ZARIA and NNS BURUTU) combined with out israeli sea drones USV that no other country has in the whole of Africa, then nigerian navy is a MAJOR threat to every other african country including Egypt, Algeria, and South Africa.




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.......................[size=24pt]new mighty Nigerian Navy[/size]


ECM/ECW weapons valour vs type 056 cannot be determined by us, only real war can determine the winner. both ships carry the 76mm gun. both ships have same speed. type 056 carries the best chinese technology as the ship just entered service last year 2012 and is designed to counter the best and most modern american navy warship and submarine threat to china in the south sea of china and taiwan.

the chinese put all their best into the type 056 and it is replacing all chinese frigates. it carries the same anti-missile defence as the latest year 2011 chines aircraft carrier called FL-3000N anti-missile systems. These are similar to the American RAM anti-missile missile system, except that they come in a 24 missile launcher. FL-3000N was only introduced in year 2010 and very modern.

nigeria is buying two type 056 warships for its navy, so your south african navy is going to face a very very modern nigeria navy stealth warship, NOT NNS Aradu and NNS Thunder.

nigerian navy will be a more powerful force in africa when those new stealth warships arrive

it will also be the most balanced naval force in africa with combination of world class 300 vessels massive and modern brown water force that egypt, algeria, south africa CANNOT match in any way. nigerian navy has the the largest and most modern brown water navy in the world, even america CANNOT beat us in that aspect of vessel types.

i have googled USA, Russia, China, and all major brown water navy forces in the world, NONE can challenge nigerian navy.


In the 2007-2009 epoch, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation in a bid to improve maritime security in the oil-producing Niger Delta, bankrolled the acquisition of over 225 new additional river patrol boats and landing craft in a deal with the Suncraft Group-Strategic Marine partnership of Singapore and Australia. The said acquisitions cost several hundreds of millions of dollars and it was a matter of extrabudgetary Direct Intervention Funding, carried out outside the orbit of regular defence appropriation, in the national interest. these new 225 vessels were added to the already existing 80 or so vessels. making it the largest such type of force in the world and south african navy can never challenge nigeria in those type of waters.


nigerian coastline is only 850km, so the two new 95m stealths paid for and under construction, and the two planned 110m stealth frigates will be enough with our six new 38m stealth fast strike crafts (four on order, but two delivered NNS ZARIA and NNS BURUTU) combined with out israeli sea drones USV that no other country has in the whole of Africa, then nigerian navy is a MAJOR threat to every other african country including Egypt, Algeria, and South Africa.


weblink sources :

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29434&Itemid=106

https://beegeagle./tag/nigerian-naval-acquisitions/



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agaugust:





the south african navy submarine was used to target 5 old outdated NATO warships and only 1 modern frigate



HOLLAND's naval ship is a 2005 technology stealth ship and is the only modern ship in the whole 6 ship NATO task force

the 5 other NATO navy ships are much older technology and close to their retirement age, they are :

USA navy ship is 1988 technology and now retired from a service
CANADA's navy ship is 1990 technology
PROTUGAL SICK BABY OF EUROPE's navy ship is 1991 technology
DENMARK navy's ships is 1981 technology and now retired from service
GERMANY's naval ship is an ordinary fuel storage tanker ship with 1977 technology

the SOUTH AFRICAN navy submarine is 2006 technology used against 5 outdated old warships with inferior technology


the NATO navies had better warships but did not bring them to south africa. also, no british, french, german or italian navy warship was present in the NATO force, and these are the 4 most powerful NATO countries in europe.

British navy stealth destroyer warship HMS Daring and US navy Arleigh Burke stealth destroyer warship have both been fully operational since 2006, a year before the so called defeat of NATO warships and they did not come to south africa then for the NATO war game.

nigerian navy too can use our 2009 stealth eagle class fast attack vessel NNS ZARIA to missile target lock the same american 1988 warship because it cannot see the nigeria stealth vessel built with the worlds best stealth technology in austarlia the world stealth masters, then we come to nairaland and boast that nigeria navy defeated american warship !

EGYPT HAS PAID FOR 2 OF THE SAME SOUTH AFRICAN TYPE 209 SUBMARINE

On 31 August 2012, the Egyptian navy commander General/ Osama Ahmed stated that a contract has been signed with the German side to build two type 209 submarines for the Egyptian navy including the latest technology this type has reached.

ALGERIA HAS PAID FOR 2 OF THE SAME SOUTH AFRICAN VALOUR CLASS STEALTH FRIGATES

NIGERIA HAS PAID FOR 2 TYPE 056 LIGHT FRIGATE STEALTH WARSHIPS WITH YEAR 2013 LATEST TECHNOLOGY

these 3 african navies are strongly contesting power for the sea with south african navy, and we cannot know who will win the sea war until the navies clash for real war, not just posting photos on nairaland.

stop deceiving yourselves in south africa, your military can be beaten and r.oasted as we just saw now in CAR by local illiterate rebels.


weblink source : google internet wikipedia of all the ships named in this post, and their full details will be confirmed
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sheyie2007: a quote "the local content of the OPV Project would almost certainly be executed at the 10,000 ton docking facility of the partially-privatised Naval Dockyard, Lagos.

Be that as it may, the ultramodern Franco-Nigerian West Atlantic Shipyard in Port Harcourt can handle the construction of 105m 7,000 ton vessels while the similarly ultramodern Swiss-Nigerian Continental Shipyard in Lagos can handle the construction of 122m 6,000 ton vessels."... andrewza are you happy now?