swanky@vodamail:
But these info does not come from one source various news angencies from within Naija reported about it and please tell me why I took more than four days before your army admitted that there was a battle between them and BH I call it cover-up

agaugust:

go back to pages 280 of this thread....4 new stealth warships are under construction for nigerian navy to arrive from next year...south africa too has only 4 new stealth warships...so what is the difference ?

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Mike..ZA:
Yes,a paveway bomb was used by Israel to destroy a flying aircraft.

agaugust:


only a foolish country like south africa will publish full details of its home made weapons ranges and all technical data on free public internet for its enemies to read and use against it. nigeria is not the fool, south africa is...i see all DENEL weapons limits and weaknesses on public internet...fools of soweto

the source clearly says the information you are hungry for is already secret/classified by nigeria, no government official will publish all nigerian Epe missile details on internet to satisfy 3 or 4 south african buffoons who are already having epilepsy in fear of nigerian made missiles being upgraded rapidly in all technical capabilities


south africa's only anti-aircraft missile is Starstreak and its maximum altitude/ceiling is ONLY 1km, a very bad imported missile that CANNOT defend south african army against and ordinary Mi-35 Hind helicopter flying at 2km altitude and killing all south african soldiers and amoured vehicles on the ground....South Africa has a very poor air defense...Britain sold you a police/anti-Rhino poacher level air defense weapon...FACT !!!!!

post the altitude/ceiling limit of your foolish velocity Starstreak missile with source, mine is below...ONLY 1km...foolish south african buffoons

Missile range: Minimum 1500m (1.5km), maximum 5500m (5.5km)
Flight time: 8 seconds
Guidance: Semi-automatic, line of sight, beam riding
Time into action: SP - less than 10 seconds to 10 minutes. LML - 2 minutes. Single missile - less than 10 seconds
Ceiling: 1000m (1km)
Missile speed: Mach 3

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23273.aspx

zaandrew: 16 100 who cares they laughed at us for bangui so now i will laugh

zaandrew:

But the nigerian milltary put the numbers at 150. The SANDF did not once menstion seleka losses. Other sources including seleka were used to get to 800.


Fact is that you sufferd has many losses has us, killed less rebels, did in in your home, had APCs and other vechiels, had great numbers and yet you still got those losses. Now imgiane those same nigerian solders, but only 200 of them with zero support, vechiles or any thing.

Fact is that the fools jumped the gun. Now you got mud in your face.

zaandrew:

so america, turky, germany, france, china, uk extra are all foolish only countries like north korea, iran, nigeria extra are smart? yes nigerian logic is just great.

only the detials were posted 3km in hight. that is a detail

so the umkhonto is a sandf SAM. And the starstreak can achieve 5km range and 1km in alltuided, so 4km range gives how much alltuide? the starstreak is a vshord and the umkhonto is a shord. VSHORD are small and can be used in confied spaces. of course has a Fool you dont under stand that.

Mike..ZA:
The South African Navy has four stealth warships plus a force multiplier in the form of 3 submarines. In fact we are the only country in sub-Saharan africa to own submarines. With a supply ship SAS Drakenburg,meaning our warships can "turn up" anywhere in Africa.

zaandrew:

The actvties of liberastion movements in SA were never a threat. For the most part the cops handeld it the SADF only steped in a few times. The SA goverment regulay suppressed all opstion with no problem in SA.

agaugust:

laugh so your teeth can drop out, south african army ran away from seleka rebels in bangui....boko haram ran away from nigerian army in borno to hide in mountains and jungles

nigerian army has killed over 4 of top boko haram commanders including Shekau the number one leader...south african army could not even kill the mosquitoes around Djatodia the leader of seleka rebels....keep laughing....let your teeth drop to the ground....south african army is under the the command and protection of Tanzanian army in Congo because the UN knows ran away from Seleka rebels, so a small Tanzania has to rule over you and your DENEL made heavily painted and polished weapons

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agaugust:

south african military did NOT defeat ANC terrorists and the fact that ANC was bomibing south africa from the inside....makes it a real threat to national security....fact !!!!!


[size=16pt]how ANC terrorists k.illed 11 south african air force men inside their air force base at home [/size]


"On the afternoon of 20 May 1983, two African National Congress (ANC) cadres, Freddie Shangwe and Ezekial Maseko, drove to Church Street in Pretoria and parked their vehicle in close vicinity of the building which housed the South African Air Force (SAAF) headquarters. Their intention was to detonate explosives at 16h30, a time when many of the SAAF personnel who worked in the building would be exiting or waiting at a bus stop near the entrance of the building. For some unknown reason, the explosives were detonated prematurely at approximately 16h20. A huge explosion ensued, causing great loss of life and injury as well as extensive damage to property. The explosion was reported to have killed nineteen people of whom eleven were members of the SAAF and 217 were wounded."


http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/car-bomb-explodes-outside-air-force-headquarters


[size=16pt]south african military FAILED to stop ANC k.illing their soldiers on home soil [/size]

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agaugust:

south african valour frigates have only 4 anti-ship missiles each....it wont take you anywhere, nigerian navy has 40 Otomat anti-ship missiles with longer range 80km-180km than all south african nvalour frigate Exocet missiles with range 70km.

NNS ARADU will sink a valour frigate from a distance....south africa loses

submarine will NOT win you any war, unless you fix tyres on it, drive it from underwater to land...then use it to capture a place where people live...or else keep ruling over fishes and crabs in deep oceans with your 'metal aquarium' called a submarine

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Fighter Pilot:

This your comment is stupid because your raising issues about now defunct apartheid regime which did not have any support of the people it governed. Everybody in the country and including a small portion of white people were against the apartheid government. The situation was The government vs the people and how will you expect the government to win in that case because it is the people who make the government.

Moreover, the ANC was not a terrorist organisation because they never killed people intentionally and instead fought for their freedom. The use of the word terrorist was coined by apartheid government to sabotage the ANC against the likes of the US and UK until such strategy could not work for them anymore. The truth has its way of coming out and instead both countries called upon ANC to apologise and offered them assylum and educated them for free. Most ANC members were educated in both the US and UK.

Fighter Pilot:

Who is that guy that is always telling you such lies. South Africa has a plan to develop locally made missiles to use on all its war ships. Algeria has even recently ordered the same valour type ships from Germany and have asked SA to them with the armament. Your navy is only much stronger on brown water and hopefully not on blue seas.

FACT!! Nigeria has only limited number of otomat missiles.

agaugust:


i set a traps for all you south africans with those ANC sizwe posts, and you are my first victim

terrorist is terrorist....all are killers, whether boko haram or ANC rebel

bomb is bomb

national army is national army....whether nigerian or south african

home soil is home soil, whether in nigeria or south africa

i just proved a big point that no country can fight war on homeland against people who have a strong faith in any cause or ideology without the national army being killed in their own home.....south african soldiers were killed in their home soil air force base by ANC terrorists.....FACT !!!!

dont make excuse for your own south african military if you want to laugh at nigeria....you will be laughing at south africa too

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zaandrew:

so america, turky, germany, france, china, uk extra are all foolish only countries like north korea, iran, nigeria extra are smart? yes nigerian logic is just great.

only the detials were posted 3km in hight. that is a detail

so the umkhonto is a sandf SAM. And the starstreak can achieve 5km range and 1km in alltuided, so 4km range gives how much alltuide? the starstreak is a vshord and the umkhonto is a shord. VSHORD are small and can be used in confied spaces. of course has a Fool you dont under stand that.

agaugust:

no country at war is ever in a hurry to publish battlefield reports in civilian newspapers. if you dont know the meaning of the word 'military' , then go create a nairaland police thread and open your basket mouth there

agaugust:

laugh so your teeth can drop out, south african army ran away from seleka rebels in bangui....boko haram ran away from nigerian army in borno to hide in mountains and jungles

nigerian army has killed over 4 of top boko haram commanders including Shekau the number one leader...south african army could not even kill the mosquitoes around Djatodia the leader of seleka rebels....keep laughing....let your teeth drop to the ground....south african army is under the the command and protection of Tanzanian army in Congo because the UN knows ran away from Seleka rebels, so a small Tanzania has to rule over you and your DENEL made heavily painted and polished weapons

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agaugust:

even mighty american army kill ratio in somali rebels combat is about 10:1, no army in modern warfare has record of kill ratio 160:1 like south africa claims....south african army was only m.asturbating itself....thinking it was having s.ex

nigeria fought in jungle, south africa fought on open city streets...jungle warfare is the most dangerous in the world and britain ran away from japan's army in burma jungle world war II....lets see south african army enter congo jungle and face M23 rebels....nigeria did not use armoured vehicles inside a jungle...fool....you are a cook/chef in south african navy....no army drives armoured vehicles into a jungle located on a mountain top...fool

agaugust:

i defeated you with my source, be a man, admit it, then move on to next topic

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agaugust:

south african valour frigates have only 4 anti-ship missiles each....it wont take you anywhere, nigerian navy has 40 Otomat anti-ship missiles with longer range 80km-180km than all south african nvalour frigate Exocet missiles with range 70km.

NNS ARADU will sink a valour frigate from a distance....south africa loses

submarine will NOT win you any war, unless you fix tyres on it, drive it from underwater to land...then use it to capture a place where people live...or else keep ruling over fishes and crabs in deep oceans with your 'metal aquarium' called a submarine

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agaugust:

south african military did NOT defeat ANC terrorists and the fact that ANC was bomibing south africa from the inside....makes it a real threat to national security....fact !!!!!


[size=16pt]how ANC terrorists k.illed 11 south african air force men inside their air force base at home [/size]


"On the afternoon of 20 May 1983, two African National Congress (ANC) cadres, Freddie Shangwe and Ezekial Maseko, drove to Church Street in Pretoria and parked their vehicle in close vicinity of the building which housed the South African Air Force (SAAF) headquarters. Their intention was to detonate explosives at 16h30, a time when many of the SAAF personnel who worked in the building would be exiting or waiting at a bus stop near the entrance of the building. For some unknown reason, the explosives were detonated prematurely at approximately 16h20. A huge explosion ensued, causing great loss of life and injury as well as extensive damage to property. The explosion was reported to have killed nineteen people of whom eleven were members of the SAAF and 217 were wounded."


http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/car-bomb-explodes-outside-air-force-headquarters


[size=16pt]south african military FAILED to stop ANC k.illing their soldiers on home soil [/size]

agaugust:

seleka kill ratio 160:1 is a big lie...or else Guinness book of records would have recognized it

america has only 2% muslim, nigeria has about 45% muslims....and northern nigeria where boko haram operates is 95% muslim.

america does not have a muslim population of 95% in any state to create an islamic terrorist zone.

please use the right side of your brain if the left side is not functioning

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agaugust:

nigerian navy Otomat long range anti-ship missiles : 40 units

south african navy Exocet anti-ship missiles : 17 units

source : SIPRI org.

FACT. GO BACK TO PREVIOUS PAGES OR SHUT UP, THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN TREATED IN MUCH DETAIL 2 MONTHS AGO

agaugust:


dont compare south africa to america or other world powers that have many hundreds or thousands of jets and helicopters, they are too well defended...south africa is weak.

also, american weapons are more than they tell you, they get lots of new upgrades never published to the world.

try use south african Umkhonto missile on land if your warship now has tryes like Toyota Corolla to drive go fight a war in the cities...fool

gst101:

why dont you just wait till we send our elite Naval special force code named OGBOLOGBO in operation 419 to capture Jacob Zuma and bring him to Aso rock to our supreme court to face justice for crimes against marekana miners then you will know how competent we are.

agaugust:


i set all those traps for all you south africans with those ANC sizwe posts, and you are my first victim

terrorist is terrorist....all are killers, whether boko haram or ANC rebel

bomb is bomb

national army is national army....whether nigerian or south african

home soil is home soil, whether in nigeria or south africa

i just proved a big point that no country can fight war on homeland against people who have a strong faith in any cause or ideology without the national army being killed in their own home.....south african soldiers were killed in their home soil air force base by ANC terrorists.....FACT !!!!

dont make excuse for your own south african military if you want to laugh at nigeria....you will be laughing at south africa too

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[img]http://www.hist.umn.edu/hist1015/Stuff/SA%20&%20Mozambique/SA%20Umkhonto%20We%20Sizwe%20soldiers%20Apartheid%20the%20Facts%2098%20001.jpg[/img]

zaandrew:

Those attack were a rare and did littel to affect the regiem mutch the same has 9/11 did not destroy america.

agaugust:

nigerian navy Otomat long range anti-ship missiles : 40 units

south african navy Exocet anti-ship missiles : 17 units

source : SIPRI org.

FACT. GO BACK TO PREVIOUS PAGES OR SHUT UP, THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN TREATED IN MUCH DETAIL 2 MONTHS AGO

MiguelMi6: Strongest military in africa:it has to be a tie between the ruling powers of each region-Egypt(North),Nigeria(West),SA(south africa),kenya or Uganda(East).
The first three regions have their areas of superiority.some more advanced in naval combat,another air defence,another manpower and guerilla war.the last region-East,its only equipped for homeland defence.don't think it can withstand external aggression.