gst101: Is it that other countries in Africa do not have a platform on which they can express themselves? Or is it that they do not have an internet culture?

I have looked everywhere to find a very active forum of other African countries where their nationals engage innational discuss but i cannot find any. Not even SA has what we have here in NL.

Just take a look around NL and you will come to see how active we are online. Just by being on this website, you can have a very good idea of what Naija is all about! The hotter the topic, the more topical that issue is to us in real life. By being on this forum, you can get an idea of how little informed, moderately informed and how very well informed Nigerians are on several issues. This is not the case with other African countries including SA.

Are you saying a few individuals on nairaland represent the views of the millions of their citizens ?

gst101:

i dont think any of the countries in East Africa is in the game. BTW, where are you from?

you must be a rookie..

iterator25: pls elaborate

At no point did the acstion of the liberastion movements causses enough harm or dissorder to causes fear among the white people.

this post is for ego wounded Nigerians....calm browse through these photos but watch for BK BOYS

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=sandf%20special%20forces%20skyscrapper&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDcQrAIwAA&url=%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2f%77%77%77%2e%73%6b%79%73%63%72%61%70%65%72%63%69%74%79%2e%63%6f%6d%2f%73%68%6f%77%74%68%72%65%61%64%2e%70%68%70%3f%74%3d%31%33%31%36%38%39%33&ei=xeQ6Uu-sI-f-iAfIwoCoBA&usg=AFQjCNFq7xlNRRMkQCJ3JMY6qoqt9xbg9g&bvm=bv.52288139,d.aGc&cad=rjt

Future flotilla

The requirements for protecting the country’s maritime frontiers and maintaining an antipiracy patrol in the northern Mozambique Channel are also having an impact on the Navy’s ageing secondary warships. The SAN’s three OPVs are now more than 25 years old, and were never designed to operate in the open and rough oceans that surround this country. They need replacing. The four MCMVs are also about 25 years old and will soon also have to be replaced.The Defence Review of 1998 (which will finally be replaced by the 2012 Defence Review, to be completed later this year), under its Option 1, affirmed that the SAN should have six strike craft and eight MCMVs in addition to the four frigates. That force design was never implemented. Instead, the navy developed a single programme for multirole vessels that would replace the MCMVs and partly replace the strike craft. This is Project Biro.

The original concept for Biro was the acquisition of eight OPVs outfitted to accom- modate different containerised systems, allowing the ships to fulfil different operational roles, as required. (The Royal Danish Navy has successfully employed this concept in its ‘Stan Flex’ family of warships.) So, in parallel with Biro, a programme to develop and/or acquire modular containerised MCM systems and equipment was launched (and is under way). These could be fitted to the new OPVs or to ‘vessels of opportunity’ (usually fishing vessels) as required.“All navies go through processes of redefin- ing needs,” points out Teuteberg. And that has happened with Biro. The original plan evolved, becoming three multirole OPVs and five multirole IPVs (much bigger than the current IPVs), with the latter fulfilling the MCMV role. And it has evolved again. “We have made several submissions over a period to different committees and [now] to the [2012] Defence Review Committee. The numbers [of ships] have changed, owing to the greater responsibility to the region as a whole and the potential of prepositioning the IPVs – owing to their MCM tasking – in our major ports. We cannot reveal the proposed new numbers yet. We await the recommendations of the Defence Review Committee. We understand these recom- mendations need to be debated and approved in Parliament.”

The six strike craft mentioned in the 1998 Defence Review were never built. Any country that spends 1.2% of its gross domestic product (GDP) on defence will find its military becoming less effective. We hope that the SANDF will, in future, receive 2% of GDP.”

agaugust:

south african valour frigates have only 4 anti-ship missiles each....it wont take you anywhere, nigerian navy has 40 Otomat anti-ship missiles with longer range 80km-180km than all south african nvalour frigate Exocet missiles with range 70km.

NNS ARADU will sink a valour frigate from a distance....south africa loses

submarine will NOT win you any war, unless you fix tyres on it, drive it from underwater to land...then use it to capture a place where people live...or else keep ruling over fishes and crabs in deep oceans with your 'metal aquarium' called a submarine

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Oops!! Exocet is on the same league with otomat. It has a range of 70-180Km, infact most of the anti-ship missiles can only reach that far other than American navy's modified anti-ship Harpoon missiles which can reach upto 240km.

Here are the specifications of Exocet missile.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet

swanky@vodamail:
Are you saying a few individuals on nairaland represent the views of the millions of their citizens ?

ON HOT TOPICS where you have very many different people commenting, yes! This is because, you will find someone in real life who has any of the views. The more a view occures from different people, the more prevalent the view in reality. I have taken note of this before and it is true.

Also, you take not of the ethnic group. The username suggests it in some cases

gst101: Is it that other countries in Africa do not have a platform on which they can express themselves? Or is it that they do not have an internet culture?

I have looked everywhere to find a very active forum of other African countries where their nationals engage innational discuss but i cannot find any. Not even SA has what we have here in NL.

Just take a look around NL and you will come to see how active we are online. Just by being on this website, you can have a very good idea of what Naija is all about! The hotter the topic, the more topical that issue is to us in real life. By being on this forum, you can get an idea of how little informed, moderately informed and how very well informed Nigerians are on several issues. This is not the case with other African countries including SA.

You think this is the only forum. SAAF forum and the commints secstion of defence web are a lot better run and more integent than this. And if nigerians did not trash talk the SANDF I would never have foind this site.

There is all so a SA avsion fourm and a SA gun forum with a lot of poltical threads. So you did a rather poor search.

Madawaki01: you must be a rookie..

why? Not like we are fighting! If you disagree with me, you just state your opinion and leave it at that! BTW, where are you from? You can tell us, it's ok.

gst101:

i dont think any of the countries in East Africa is in the game. BTW, where are you from?

do not undermine any country.though they aren't in contest for best military but they can for powerful military.I don't assume where am from matters,does it?

agaugust:

south african valour frigates have only 4 anti-ship missiles each....it wont take you anywhere, nigerian navy has 40 Otomat anti-ship missiles with longer range 80km-180km than all south african nvalour frigate Exocet missiles with range 70km.

NNS ARADU will sink a valour frigate from a distance....south africa loses

submarine will NOT win you any war, unless you fix tyres on it, drive it from underwater to land...then use it to capture a place where people live...or else keep ruling over fishes and crabs in deep oceans with your 'metal aquarium' called a submarine

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NNS Arandu will destroy four stealth frigates plus submarines,which technological superior navies of NATO failed to detect? The Exocet missile is between 70km-180km.

Nigerian media at large are still sceptical of General Ibrahim's reports that they lost only 16 soldiers with nine more still missing. It looks like it will harm the armys pride to ever admit such a huge casualty blamed on poor planning strategies and lack of arial support.

Read more.
http://www.cknnigeria.com/2013/09/boko-haram-kills-40-soldiers-in-borno.html?showComment=1379484835252

http://www.punchng.com/news/40-soldiers-feared-killed-in-bharam-ambush/

agaugust:

laugh so your teeth can drop out, south african army ran away from seleka rebels in bangui....boko haram ran away from nigerian army in borno to hide in mountains and jungles

nigerian army has killed over 4 of top boko haram commanders including Shekau the number one leader...south african army could not even kill the mosquitoes around Djatodia the leader of seleka rebels....keep laughing....let your teeth drop to the ground....south african army is under the the command and protection of Tanzanian army in Congo because the UN knows ran away from Seleka rebels, so a small Tanzania has to rule over you and your DENEL made heavily painted and polished weapons

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Tanzania has already lost a major to M23 in their front. Both armies(SANDF and TPDF) had a company supporting a FARDC brigade,we were fighting on two different fronts. And it is a UN mission not South African or Tanzanian,that Brigadier General reports to a Brazilian General sitting in the DRC capital.

agaugust:

post source to prove your claim....

You said you're a researcher?. The fact that you don't know this shows your lack of knowledge about military "matters".

gst101: Is it that other countries in Africa do not have a platform on which they can express themselves? Or is it that they do not have an internet culture?

I have looked everywhere to find a very active forum of other African countries where their nationals engage innational discuss but i cannot find any. Not even SA has what we have here in NL.

Just take a look around NL and you will come to see how active we are online. Just by being on this website, you can have a very good idea of what Naija is all about! The hotter the topic, the more topical that issue is to us in real life. By being on this forum, you can get an idea of how little informed, moderately informed and how very well informed Nigerians are on several issues. This is not the case with other African countries including SA.

Speak for yourself.

There are many sites, and blogs from SA, kenya to other international where people discuss militaries from professionals to enthusiasts. I guess you didn't search properly or you dont have means to subscribe to other sites

The issue of not being well informed now that boy, you should speak for yourself and your Arrogant egotistical fellow naija boys.

gst101: why? Not like we are fighting! If you disagree with me, you just state your opinion and leave it at that! BTW, where are you from? You can tell us, it's ok.

Stop dancing around with your Hyena,and answer my question. Just like all your brothers you failed to prove how will the Nigeria army destroy SANDF ground forces(mechanised infantry).

gst101:

ON HOT TOPICS where you have very many different people commenting, yes! This is because, you will find someone in real life who has any of the views. The more a view occures from different people, the more prevalent the view in reality. I have taken note of this before and it is true.

Also, you take not of the ethnic group. The username suggests it in some cases

These guy is crazy you still see and judge people according to their username and ethnicity not about their nationality OMG that's why nigeria is so backward you are truly a rookie on these forum why don't you pack your bags and find something along those lines

NaijaPikinGidi:

For your information, more Nigerian Army soldiers will gallantly die fighting for the country ... that is for sure! But our troops will NEVER abandon the the mission like your coward SANDF models did against a ragtag SELEKA. If casualties are sustained, it is the more reason to finish-off the fight ... and like true warriors we finished-off the over 4 hours fight, dislodged and cleared out the forest leaving over 150 dead Boko Haram insurgents. We are still standing and there is no Shekau to make any more propaganda videos of terrorist rantings.



You let your fallen soldiers down by asconding like the cowards you all are!! But we showed respect and camaraderie to our fallen colleagues by holding ground and eliminating every single terrorist in that encounter! That's victory!!

SANDF parabats and special forces never abandoned their mission,they stayed on the ground until the was a change of government. We lost men because of lack air power,numbers and logistics. But you have all this things yet you're losing men?

FACT!! Nigerian Army is lying about the heavy casualty they sustained at the hands of BH. It is just very unfortunate that war journalists are being intimidated and blocked by the soldiers to visit and cover the news about anything that has to do with BH encounter. Anyway the truth always come out, it is just a matter of time that it will soon come out to the surface. Watch this space!!

Nigerian Army lies exposed when initially first claimed they have lost only two men on the clash with BH dated 4th August 2013 when they infact lost 35 soldiers.

Read more.
http://www.dailyindependentnig.com/2013/08/35-soldiers-killed-in-august-4-clash-with-boko-haram/

This is a proof that Nigerian military is full of lies by downplaying casualty figures as always.

LIES EXPOSED!!!

NIGERIA LOST 35 SOLDIERS.

35 soldiers killed in August 4 clash with Boko Haram

Posted on Sunday, August 11th, 2013

By Stella Odueme-Omona   (Abuja) and Sunny Nwankwo (Maiduguri )

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Gen Chris Olukolade

How many soldiers actually lost their lives last week when they clashed with the deadly Islamic insurgents Boko Haram in Borno State?

And why would the military authorities play down on the number of deaths of their personnel only for them to detail the military plane last week to pick relations of the actual number of soldiers who died in the clash for their burial?

This is the riddle that family members and friends of the deceased soldiers are trying to unravel.

Sunday Independent investigation has shown that contrary to reports by the military command in Borno State that only two soldiers were killed in last Sunday (August 4, 2013) clash between the Multi-National Joint Task Force (MNJTF) and Boko Haram insurgents, 35 soldiers loss their lives in the encounter.

Spokesperson for the Joint military Task Force (JTF), Lt. Col. Sagir Musa had earlier said the MNJTF successfully repelled Boko Haram terrorists attack when the insurgents launched twin attacks on Mobile Police Base and Bama town.

His words: Terrorists using sophisticated weapons and Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) launched attacks at about 6:45 a.m. on August 4, 2013. The encounter led to the death of one policeman and 17 Boko Haram terrorists; two soldiers were also wounded.

Musa also added that two soldiers were killed in another separate attack on the operatives of the MNJTF.

But findings by this newspaper during the week revealed that 35 soldiers, not two, died from the Sunday attacks while soldiers from Lagos State brigade had majority of the casualties.

On Thursday August 8, a team of soldiers from Borno State arrived Lagos to break the news of the soldiers death to their families. It was during the visit that Sunday Independent scooped that 35 soldiers were killed by Boko Haram operatives in the said attack.

The team which came to Lagos via a C130 military aircraft visited a number of Barracks in Ikorodu, Ojo, Yaba, Apapa and Ikaja to break the unpleasant news to families of the deceased soldiers. They also informed the families that they would be airlifted to Maiduguri the following morning to witness the burial.

On Friday, wives and children of the deceased soldiers were airlifted to Maiduguri where the soldiers were buried amidst uncontrollable wailing as the 35 gallant soldiers were laid to rest in military tradition.

But more troubling is that some soldiers are still missing, including the commandant that led the ill-fated unit.  But unconfirmed sources indicated that the commandant might be complicit in the attack.

Sources said such a blow on the military and without a corresponding loss on the part of the insurgents could only mean that the commandant had given them an order that was deliberately meant to make them vulnerable.

While what happened on Sunday was still sketchy, Sunday Independent gathered from sources that the affected troops were part of the team that was to be relieved by Nigerian peace-keeping troops from Mali.

According to one source, the troops had disarmed and were preparing to eat their meal when, perhaps, a mole amongst them alerted the insurgents. Though GSM services have still not been restored in the state, it is still unclear what means the alleged mole used in tipping the insurgents, though satellite phones cannot be ruled out.

The source also said the insurgents, decked in foreign military camouflage, came in different Hilux trucks and ambushed the soldiers when they were vulnerable.

But when this newspaper asked whether such a take-down was possible under normal military operational procedure, the source said it was impossible. According to the source, your weapon is your wife if there is an ambush; 35 people cannot be easily cut down without some of the soldiers pulling out their weapon for a fight-back. I suspect that they were not even close to their weapons during the attack and that was what must have accounted for such a huge loss.

When asked if it was also possible that departing troops could handover their weapons while still in the state, the source said it was also abnormal. According to him, such could only happen inside the aircraft that would be taking them back to their destination.

One of the soldiers who died in the attack, Sunday Independent gathered, had in the last telephone conversation with his father, said he was scared that they might not return alive. He told his father that the insurrection they were facing was serious.

Contacted on Saturday, the military high command preferred to keep mum on our fresh findings.

The cell phone of Army spokesman, Brigadier-General Chris Olukolade was switched off when Sunday Independent contacted him. No response also came from him when an sms was sent to him. However, another senior officer insisted that the number of soldiers killed during the attack was only two.

Meanwhile, the commander of the military Joint Task Force (JTF), Major General Jah Ewansiah, has told Governor Kashim Shettima of Borno State that 12 soldiers and seven policemen were killed in recent attacks in  Borno  by suspected members of the Boko Haram.

Sagir had last week denied that up to a dozen officers were killed in the Malumfatori attack on soldiers by the Boko Haram on August 4.

The JTF spokesman had claimed in a statement that only two soldiers and a policeman were killed in the attack as well as another attack in Bama. The JTF had earlier claimed that it killed 32 Boko Haram members in the two attacks.

Ewansiah, however, revealed the casualty to Shettima, when the latter visited the JTF headquarters on Friday to condole with the Task Force over the ugly occurrence.

We have lost 12 soldiers in Malumfatori and seven policemen in Bama attacks. But despite that the JTF is resolute and committed to ensure that peace is completely restored in Borno State, even if it means losing their lives, Ewansiah said.

The governor donated N1million to the families of each of the deceased soldiers and policemen.

According to him, as a responsible and responsive government, it became necessary to condole the families in appreciation of the supreme sacrifice the gallant soldiers paid in the course of restoring peace in the state.

Its all about lies! Lies! Lies! Lies! Lies!!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/10239115/Militants-kill-44-worshippers-at-Nigeria-mosque.html

BH kill not fewer than 54 and burn more than hundred houses and cars in yet another attack despite being defeated. What aches my heart the most is that soldiers were no where to be seen even though the drama unfolded right under their noses.

http://tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/news/item/21944-boko-haram-54-killed,-100-houses,-vehicles-burnt-in-borno.html

Fighter Pilot: LIES EXPOSED!!!

NIGERIA LOST 35 SOLDIERS.

35 soldiers killed in August 4 clash with Boko Haram

Posted on Sunday, August 11th, 2013

By Stella Odueme-Omona   (Abuja) and Sunny Nwankwo (Maiduguri )

?

Gen Chris Olukolade

How many soldiers actually lost their lives last week when they clashed with the deadly Islamic insurgents Boko Haram in Borno State?

And why would the military authorities play down on the number of deaths of their personnel only for them to detail the military plane last week to pick relations of the actual number of soldiers who died in the clash for their burial?

This is the riddle that family members and friends of the deceased soldiers are trying to unravel.

Sunday Independent investigation has shown that contrary to reports by the military command in Borno State that only two soldiers were killed in last Sunday (August 4, 2013) clash between the Multi-National Joint Task Force (MNJTF) and Boko Haram insurgents, 35 soldiers loss their lives in the encounter.

Spokesperson for the Joint military Task Force (JTF), Lt. Col. Sagir Musa had earlier said the MNJTF successfully repelled Boko Haram terrorists attack when the insurgents launched twin attacks on Mobile Police Base and Bama town.

His words: Terrorists using sophisticated weapons and Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) launched attacks at about 6:45 a.m. on August 4, 2013. The encounter led to the death of one policeman and 17 Boko Haram terrorists; two soldiers were also wounded.

Musa also added that two soldiers were killed in another separate attack on the operatives of the MNJTF.

But findings by this newspaper during the week revealed that 35 soldiers, not two, died from the Sunday attacks while soldiers from Lagos State brigade had majority of the casualties.

On Thursday August 8, a team of soldiers from Borno State arrived Lagos to break the news of the soldiers death to their families. It was during the visit that Sunday Independent scooped that 35 soldiers were killed by Boko Haram operatives in the said attack.

The team which came to Lagos via a C130 military aircraft visited a number of Barracks in Ikorodu, Ojo, Yaba, Apapa and Ikaja to break the unpleasant news to families of the deceased soldiers. They also informed the families that they would be airlifted to Maiduguri the following morning to witness the burial.

On Friday, wives and children of the deceased soldiers were airlifted to Maiduguri where the soldiers were buried amidst uncontrollable wailing as the 35 gallant soldiers were laid to rest in military tradition.

But more troubling is that some soldiers are still missing, including the commandant that led the ill-fated unit.  But unconfirmed sources indicated that the commandant might be complicit in the attack.

Sources said such a blow on the military and without a corresponding loss on the part of the insurgents could only mean that the commandant had given them an order that was deliberately meant to make them vulnerable.

While what happened on Sunday was still sketchy, Sunday Independent gathered from sources that the affected troops were part of the team that was to be relieved by Nigerian peace-keeping troops from Mali.

According to one source, the troops had disarmed and were preparing to eat their meal when, perhaps, a mole amongst them alerted the insurgents. Though GSM services have still not been restored in the state, it is still unclear what means the alleged mole used in tipping the insurgents, though satellite phones cannot be ruled out.

The source also said the insurgents, decked in foreign military camouflage, came in different Hilux trucks and ambushed the soldiers when they were vulnerable.

But when this newspaper asked whether such a take-down was possible under normal military operational procedure, the source said it was impossible. According to the source, your weapon is your wife if there is an ambush; 35 people cannot be easily cut down without some of the soldiers pulling out their weapon for a fight-back. I suspect that they were not even close to their weapons during the attack and that was what must have accounted for such a huge loss.

When asked if it was also possible that departing troops could handover their weapons while still in the state, the source said it was also abnormal. According to him, such could only happen inside the aircraft that would be taking them back to their destination.

One of the soldiers who died in the attack, Sunday Independent gathered, had in the last telephone conversation with his father, said he was scared that they might not return alive. He told his father that the insurrection they were facing was serious.

Contacted on Saturday, the military high command preferred to keep mum on our fresh findings.

The cell phone of Army spokesman, Brigadier-General Chris Olukolade was switched off when Sunday Independent contacted him. No response also came from him when an sms was sent to him. However, another senior officer insisted that the number of soldiers killed during the attack was only two.

Meanwhile, the commander of the military Joint Task Force (JTF), Major General Jah Ewansiah, has told Governor Kashim Shettima of Borno State that 12 soldiers and seven policemen were killed in recent attacks in  Borno  by suspected members of the Boko Haram.

Sagir had last week denied that up to a dozen officers were killed in the Malumfatori attack on soldiers by the Boko Haram on August 4.

The JTF spokesman had claimed in a statement that only two soldiers and a policeman were killed in the attack as well as another attack in Bama. The JTF had earlier claimed that it killed 32 Boko Haram members in the two attacks.

Ewansiah, however, revealed the casualty to Shettima, when the latter visited the JTF headquarters on Friday to condole with the Task Force over the ugly occurrence.

We have lost 12 soldiers in Malumfatori and seven policemen in Bama attacks. But despite that the JTF is resolute and committed to ensure that peace is completely restored in Borno State, even if it means losing their lives, Ewansiah said.

The governor donated N1million to the families of each of the deceased soldiers and policemen.

According to him, as a responsible and responsive government, it became necessary to condole the families in appreciation of the supreme sacrifice the gallant soldiers paid in the course of restoring peace in the state.

Your cut and paste addiction has gone to a whole new level. Read the story above and shame yourself thoroughly for being a stupi.d blockhead who cannot read or comprehend. Only a professional army will despatch personnel to contact families of gallant soldiers to inform them about the sad news. Lives will be lost in these operations day in and day out. It's only a spineless SANDF that would go to battle and run away for fear of dying like chickens in the hands of ragtag militias and rebel fighters. Boko Haram ... they see the Nigerian Army and the run. I fail to see the point of your cut and paste job above. Try again!

NaijaPikinGidi:

Your cut and paste addiction has gone to a whole new level. Read the story above and shame yourself thoroughly for being a stupi.d blockhead who cannot read or comprehend. Only a professional army will despatch personnel to contact families of gallant soldiers to inform them about the sad news. Lives will be lost in these operations day in and day out. It's only a spineless SANDF that would go to battle and run away for fear of dying like chickens in the hands of ragtag militias and rebel fighters. Boko Haram ... they see the Nigerian Army and the run. I fail to see the point of your cut and paste job above. Try again!

How many soldiers did you lose? Where were your mighty Alpha and F7 jets or your MI-35 helicopters?. The SANDF never ran from any battle in CAR a single company of parabats and Special forces fought bloody well,without supplies and aerial bombardment for two straight days. SANDF left Bangui after Bozize fled his country,with his army changing sides. Now with Nigeria it is funny different story,you abandoned Sudan and Mali missions only to receive a beating in your backyards. South Africans on this forum are saying "Bleksemme then hard BH"

NaijaPikinGidi:

Your cut and paste addiction has gone to a whole new level. Read the story above and shame yourself thoroughly for being a stupi.d blockhead who cannot read or comprehend. Only a professional army will despatch personnel to contact families of gallant soldiers to inform them about the sad news. Lives will be lost in these operations day in and day out. It's only a spineless SANDF that would go to battle and run away for fear of dying like chickens in the hands of ragtag militias and rebel fighters. Boko Haram ... they see the Nigerian Army and the run. I fail to see the point of your cut and paste job above. Try again!

Shekau is boasting that your men are running away from the BH heavy firepower and he even openly dismissed your soldiers as liers. Now tell me who to believe now because your generals keeps on giving people false hopes that they are winning the battle and only to experience continuous attacks. The truth is your military is full of lies, they are just plastic soldiers pretending to be made of steel.

Your commanders are very amateurish since they have led many of your men into a trap set by the BH. Admit it your soldiers are not as strong as you think and I don't think at this level they are anything to defeat South Africa.

Meanwhile, SA never ran away from Bangui, they stood their ground until ordered to vacate the territory of CAR with order from the parliament. They were ordered to leave everything behind and return back home. Our men were ready for a battle and were eagerly waiting for re-inforcement from SA but the legislature decided otherwise from unleashing their full military might on a tiny CAR. The parliament acted wisely because now SA could have been accused of many atrocities which could have perhaps amounted to crimes against humanity and even attracted the ICC. The CAR is just an ant compared to our full strength and firepower.

Nigeria was/ still is very involved in the operations in mali. I have pasted in the past multiple images of nigerian troops deployed in Timbuktu, Lere, mali-mauritania border, banamba and goa. We pulled out of the mission in mali because our mandate there had been fulfilled. We invested 1200 combat troops backed by 4 fighter jets, 3 attack helicopters and 50 million dollars in aid to the government of mali. We also have set-up a military hospital in mali. As such nigerians are proud of the military's achievements in mali.


For the recent operation against boko-haram in the border region with chad, nigerian troops despite suffering heavy casualties showed an overwhelming bravery in the face of a determined opponent. Most boko-haram fighters come from mali, niger and chad. A nairalander who also is a JTF member serving in yobe state, north-east nigeria, in his thread which hit the front-page 2-3 weeks ago attested to the fact that the core fighting members of boko-haram are mainly hired insurgents from mali, niger and chad. Nigerian troops killed 105 boko-haram members, while suffering losses of 16 confirmed troops and 9 missing. The operation was a success.


That been said, the operation also showed major shortcomings in the execution of the mission. The questions most nigerians have been asking is, why was there no air or artillery support. The nigerian airforce's own aeronautical and electrical engineering firm ( AESTL) recently completed PDM and re-activation and up-grades of 9 alpha jets and 1 C-130. I do not think it was a question of a lack of ground attack jets or MI-35p helicopters or artillery pieces. Only the major who ordered the operation can answer why he did not request for air support or artillery fire for such an important operation. This operation was an un-necessary risk taking. You cannot go for an mission of this magnitude and not have air cover. It is simply a failure laid squarely at the feet of the military planners, and they are culpable for this disaster.

Shekau is dead. dead men, don't speak. The recent operation also killed a senior boko-haram commander.

Nigerians are nothing more than lying misplaced patriotic praise singers.....yes South Africa left Central African Republic, Nigeria cannot run because there is no place to run to BK Boys are right behind and inflicting massive casualties for an Army that proud itself from non existing combat capabilities. ASK YOUR GODS THE BRITISH AND AMERICANS FOR HELP.....Anyway they are in Nigeria offering training, advise, communication interception and weapons. So sad for an army that proclaims itself as the best in Africa.

I repeat Nigeria is nothing more than a GIANT ON CLAY FEET......BH WOULD PROVE AGAIN!!! Nigerians on this forum are blowing hot air disguised as a truth and illiterate opinion on matters relating to military matters....Hence now it has been proven by BH BOys......COME AGAIN BH DO IT.

MiguelMi6: Strongest military in africa:it has to be a tie between the ruling powers of each region-Egypt(North),Nigeria(West),SA(south africa),kenya or Uganda(East).
The first three regions have their areas of superiority.some more advanced in naval combat,another air defence,another manpower and guerilla war.the last region-East,its only equipped for homeland defence.don't think it can withstand external aggression.

Miguel...Hispanic ?

i like your comment...except that you did not rank Ethiopia, a country that does not fear Egypt....should itself be feared...i fear Ethiopia !

Fighter Pilot:

Oops!! Exocet is on the same league with otomat. It has a range of 70-180Km, infact most of the anti-ship missiles can only reach that far other than American navy's modified anti-ship Harpoon missiles which can reach upto 240km.

Here are the specifications of Exocet missile.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet

south african version of Exocet missile is Block 2 with range of only 72km maximum, you should be ashamed that a nigerian civilian is teaching you a south african military officer about south african weapons limitations and weaknesses...fool


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet

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Fighter Pilot: LIES EXPOSED!!!

NIGERIA LOST 35 SOLDIERS.

35 soldiers killed in August 4 clash with Boko Haram

Posted on Sunday, August 11th, 2013

By Stella Odueme-Omona   (Abuja) and Sunny Nwankwo (Maiduguri )

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Gen Chris Olukolade

How many soldiers actually lost their lives last week when they clashed with the deadly Islamic insurgents Boko Haram in Borno State?

And why would the military authorities play down on the number of deaths of their personnel only for them to detail the military plane last week to pick relations of the actual number of soldiers who died in the clash for their burial?

This is the riddle that family members and friends of the deceased soldiers are trying to unravel.

Sunday Independent investigation has shown that contrary to reports by the military command in Borno State that only two soldiers were killed in last Sunday (August 4, 2013) clash between the Multi-National Joint Task Force (MNJTF) and Boko Haram insurgents, 35 soldiers loss their lives in the encounter.

Spokesperson for the Joint military Task Force (JTF), Lt. Col. Sagir Musa had earlier said the MNJTF successfully repelled Boko Haram terrorists attack when the insurgents launched twin attacks on Mobile Police Base and Bama town.

His words: Terrorists using sophisticated weapons and Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) launched attacks at about 6:45 a.m. on August 4, 2013. The encounter led to the death of one policeman and 17 Boko Haram terrorists; two soldiers were also wounded.

Musa also added that two soldiers were killed in another separate attack on the operatives of the MNJTF.

[size=16pt]50 south african soldiers k.illed by Seleka rebels....Truth Exposed[/size]



"Johannesburg - Would it be possible for the South African Defence Force (SANDF) to conceal the deaths of at least 23 more soldiers in last month’s battle with Seleka rebels in the Central African Republic (CAR) – and perhaps upwards of 37 more?

The government announced that 13 soldiers had died in the battle and 27 were wounded. It named the 13 dead and their bodies were publicly returned to South Africa to be honoured and buried today.

But the Seleka rebels have told local and international media they killed at least 36 soldiers in the fighting around the capital, Bangui, between March 22 and 24. And Radio France Internationale has quoted an anonymous source who claimed to have seen at least 50 body bags being loaded onto a SA Airforce C-130 Hercules cargo aircraft for transport back to South Africa on March 25, a day after the fighting ended."



http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/seleka-rebels-dispute-death-toll-of-soldiers-1.1496538#.UjuZxcbOlPI