daveP:
Familiar spirits are demon spirits possessing mediums- those who give their will to them, to imitate dead human beings, to make predictions, promote doctrines, etc(1 Tim 4:1-7). Clear examples like in 1 Sam 28. It seems like Samuel actually appeared to Saul, but 1 Chron 10:13 proves it was a familiar spirit imitating Samuel that appeared.

In Acts 16:16, the girl had a spirit of Python. People under this demonic operation would become swollen and give answers in a frezied state of mind. Counterfeit demostrations were made by ventriloquists.
(Lev 19:31)- gives a command, cos they defile, & endpoint of 1 who defiles God's temple is destruction.

Lev 20:6 states the death penalty for those that go after them. v27 also emphasizes the death penalty; a proof that God really detests them totally.

Deut 18:9-14 depicts it as an abominable act;by practice or by association. Reading further is about the Messiah though.
(Isa 8:19; 19:3; 29:4)

Interesting...

RadicallyBlunt:

You forgot to tell her its not an official phrase. If she go official or high class setting go raise hand dey shout twale baba like garage pikin, na ur fault oh.

Hahahahaha
He's too smart for that.

Sarassin:


For me, it entails a shift of awareness, generally in deep meditation, the mind enters a sublime state and then attention is brought to bear on a particular issue, but it is not always that cut and dried, certain types of motion can also induce the effect (at least in me) in such a state you get ahead of the curve, not necessarily in sequential order but ahead nevertheless.

So for you, meditation is crucial before you unlock it . (I would like to know the method you apply when meditating).

The word of knowledge I know about scripturally though flows like a river after you must have first submitted to the Holy Spirit and received the gift, when you require it, it flows and keeps flowing until you want it to stop (without aid of meditation). It can come via clear direct images often mistaken for visions or by a clear spoken word in ones head whose accounts are very very accurate.

It does not manipulate but only speaks the truth.

Ishilove:

Ha! Men gossip more than women. I know this for a fact

Men "discuss" women "gossip"

Ishilove:
Lmao! I'm pretty sure analice didn't know this.

She will be heartbroken

abeggy this isn't a laughing/smirking matter nau

Didnt know otherwise how to break it gently

daveP:
Evidences are collections of experiences. They cant be ignored in a flash. i recommended that book, not cos i want to prove a point over you. But to let you see through what someone with your kind of experience went through, etc. i strongly recommend it again pls. May be taken as 2018 project. I wont be able to share my own experience now. I gladly want to know however, what, why the bible you believed on went to the negative side. God affirmed Jesus is His ONLY begotten Son,etc. Any good reaso why youre yet to react2 that?

But I do not recall demoting the bible to a negative side nau, Dave.
I simply said that I am no longer a Christian.
Or is Jesus for Christians alone?

You really need to understand that I have no qualms with Jesus, his history, and the numerous accounts of his life and times.

That said, what I quipped earlier was that the writer never gave a personal account of his experience of the Christ. What he did was try to provide incontrovertible proof of the existence of Lord Yeshua....that's a good stride, but it is not what I need, my dear.

butterflyl1on:


Men "discuss" women "gossip"

You no well

Ishilove:

Interesting...

Why are you pretending you aren't familiar with all those and more verses. Sorry about another pun being in there again

MuttleyLaff:
abeggy this isn't a laughing/smirking matter nau

Didnt know otherwise how to break it gently

But he is here encouraging her na. He needs factory resetting slap

MuttleyLaff:
Why are you pretending you aren't familiar with all those and more verses. Sorry about another pun being in there again

I meant his submission is interesting. How did he come about the python spirit theory?

Davep

butterflyl1on:


Divine experience you say? What and how would you know that it actually is divine experience? By what markers do you measure?

Plus only one who wishes to be dogmatic while religious would be limited but you can be obedient to the word of God yet not dogmatic hence leading via your life and the "do as I do and not as I say" principle thereby leading none astray.

Almost every religion provides a method to Divine experience, Tantra alone provides 112 methods and there is a method for everyone. Divine experience or more apt, Gnosis is simply indescribable and anyone who describes it to you is quite simply lying. Many people do not even come back from such an experience, it can shatter the psyche. I could write all the words in the world and still not adequately describe it, it is there only to be experienced, this is why Christians at least on this occasion got it right when they say "no man has seen God".

The limitations of religion in my view are all too clear to see, religion does not change you at your core being.

Ishilove:
I meant his submission is interesting

Gotcha

Ishilove:
How did he come about the python spirit theory?

Davep

That's a bit of doing a wuru-wuru to the answer thang

Divination isn't psychic,
that girl was fortune telling, not mind reading or reading people's thoughts

Ishilove:

My dear ehn, the thing messed up my mind real good. I had to go spiritual cleansing in MFM

The thing is these spirits can say the truth about someone, like they did Paul, Luke and Silas. But the Holy Spirit stirred up Paul to end the circus show(we don't know how long she must have been following them. They didn't react at 1st, minding their own business). Obviously, the Holy Spirit doesn't agree with such a spirit!!

Indwelling of the Spirit would quench any thirst to want to "search out" the future, destiny, need for foresight.


These were conc heathen practices that has the power to attract even God's people(not filled with the Spirit; explains why Saul went for one). Subsequent kings of Israel, Judah did same cos they didn't want to obey God's side of the bargain of communion-Total Obedience!!

Every word she said was true, but the purpose of satan was to discredit the message of the apostles by making the public think they were in league with the demons.

butterflyl1on:


So for you, meditation is crucial before you unlock it . (I would like to know the method you apply when meditating).

The word of knowledge I know about scripturally though flows like a river after you must have first submitted to the Holy Spirit and received the gift, when you require it, it flows and keeps flowing until you want it to stop (without aid of meditation). It can come via clear direct images often mistaken for visions or by a clear spoken word in ones head whose accounts are very very accurate.

It does not manipulate but only speaks the truth.

Not necessarily, it is more about the shift in awareness. The process is always the same but I understand that religious folk have to be seen to draw a line. Had I accepted the entreaties of many I would be passing along "prophecies" in some mega church through a concealed microphone but I chose differently and for that I was excoriated, the margins are very slim pickings.

daveP:
The example of president, monarch access will be further elaborated on. @mizmycoli

begging questions like: how did they get the new line to call? who gave them the new line, esp when the order that all must drop at the son's desk. do they know its the son that now has the line with him, and not the king, president? nothing like "specially have the line".(its not a rule of partiality). No matter the urgency at hand, the trust on the son to deliver must also be there, since the king entrusted it to the son, then likewise, expectation of such is needed from citizens.


Now based on the order given, wont you as a good citizen, want to obey such an order?(the Prince has the line always though)

But Dave, have you not seen instances where the president gives an order to his aides to ensure unfettered access to certain people?

See ehn, like I said before, I have no qualms with the number of people I have to go through to reach the father. Jesus said he and the father are one. If I have reached the father, and I am sure I did, then I have reached the Christ too...even without realizing.

I think that it is the same for lots of people universally, who might not know the Christ as we know, but still have access to the divine...

Except of course, you are of the exclusive school of thought that declares all but Christians as condemned and unworthy

daveP:
The thing is these spirits can say the truth about someone, like they did Paul, Luke and Silas. But the Holy Spirit stirred up Paul to end the circus show(we don't know how long she must have been following them. They didn't react at 1st, minding their own business). Obviously, the Holy Spirit doesn't agree with such a spirit!!

Indwelling of the Spirit would quench any thirst to want to "search out" the future, destiny, need for foresight.


These were conc heathen practices that has the power to attract even God's people(not filled with the Spirit; explains why Saul went for one). Subsequent kings of Israel, Judah did same cos they didn't want to obey God's side of the bargain of communion-Total Obedience!!

Every word she said was true, but the purpose of satan was to discredit the message of the apostles by making the public think they were in league with the demons.

And it is still happening till date

MuttleyLaff:
Gotcha

That's a bit of doing a wuru-wuru to the answer thang

Divination isn't psychic,
that girl was fortune telling, not mind reading or reading people's thoughts

But some diviners do have the gift

Ishilove:

But he is here encouraging her na. He needs factory resetting slap

Kikiki ki.
Not necessarily,
you see, Sarassin at times, believe it or not, can be so hopelessly innocent.
He thinks it's just endearments
and so thinks nothing more to it.
He probably thinks it's just a snare Analice is using to win him over to the kingdom, so therefore plays along, albeit with a convenient swollen head

MuttleyLaff:


No you havent been sinning
That scripture has nothing on you because I am yet to see any arguments you might have had with Sarassin ever descend into fights

Anyway, having said that, there is this other thing, I have been wanting to tell or ask you, a whole long time ago though, that, are you aware that Sarassin is off limits and off the shelves?

Wet blanket!

MuttleyLaff:
Kikiki ki.
Not necessarily,
you see, Sarassin at times, believe it or not, can be so hopelessly innocent.
He thinks it's just endearments
and so thinks nothing more to it.
He probably thinks it's just a snare Analice is using to win him over to the kingdom, so therefore plays along, albeit with swollen head

How sweet, though I refuse to believe he is that naive. Come on, really?!

Sarassin:
Wet blanket!

Bwahahaha read my defence of you

Sarassin:


Wet blanket!

Asiri e tu. See ya secret in the open public

Ishilove:

How sweet, though I refuse to believe he is that naive. Come on, really?!

He is an "officer" and a gentleman

Ishilove:

You no well

You know I am saying the truth.

MuttleyLaff:
He is an "officer" and a gentleman

Knight of St Mulumba?

butterflyl1on:


You know I am saying the truth.

Nah, you're just being insufferably sexist. You need to be head butted

MuttleyLaff:
Bwahahaha read my defence of you

Good that! but actually I am as free as a bird

Ishilove:
But some diviners do have the gift

What do they call the gift or categorise it under?
Do they, at all, use apparatus with the "gift"?
Do they demonstrate it strangely?

Ishilove:

How sweet, though I refuse to believe he is that naive. Come on, really?!

Obviously you have never seen her lay into me....

Sarassin:
Good that! but actually I am as free as a bird

Yeah right, tell that to the marines.
but then, "I am as free as a bird" meaning what?

Sarassin:
Obviously you have never seen her lay into me....

Bwahahaha,
that is deep, esoteric clairvoyant deep.

MuttleyLaff:
Bwahahaha,
that is deep, esoteric clairvoyant deep.

Get your mind outta the gutter