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Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by bilymuse: 10:54pm On Apr 15, 2010 |
During the Abacha regime, Ojukwu collected money from Abacha and went globe trotting trying to drum up sopport for the regime. In one of his speech in Washinton DC he praised Abacha to high heaven, and said the annulment of June 12, and the continuous incarceration of Abiola is a good thing that would teach the Yoruba's a lesson. He supported the execution of Ken Saro Wiwa, according to him, its pay back time. Finally he told his audience in Washinton DC , that Igbo people are going to produce the next president, all they need to do is to support Abacha regime. More than 15 years later, Igbo people could not produce a VP. The Yoruba have taken their turn, now Ken Saro Wiwa cousin, an Ijaw man is on the throne. Ojukwu has sold you out, he has collected dividend upfront. If such a man is your hero , then this generation is doom. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by mamagee3(f): 11:23pm On Apr 15, 2010 |
Onlytruth:Hey, Mr Onlytruth or Onlymoron. . . I'm entitled to my Opinions and nobody can change it not even your biased opinions. . . I said the "Real" heroes, oh yes, a soldier isn't defined a hero only when they die. . . But in this case, the real heroes are the dead soldiers who fought to secure our Independence not a guy who promised to lay his life for his country and then went on to dodge from a bomb attack on his Camp. So, Pleaseee don't try feeding me with that Cock and Bull Story of Ojukwu is the Greatest Hero in Nigeria. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by OgidiBoy(m): 11:56pm On Apr 15, 2010 |
When the Ikemba of Nnewi lives this world to join his ancestors I wonder what kind of funeral Nnewi, Anambra, and the Igbo community would give this hero. This is one time I pray I'll be in Nigeria to witness this event. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by sjeezy8: 12:13am On Apr 16, 2010 |
well im waiting for his daughter to turn 18 after which her biafran yansh is MINE Okwa e mana egwu ka eji amara nde nwere ego ayyyyy! |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by akigbemaru: 5:09am On Apr 16, 2010 |
@ szjeezy8 Don't do that bro. You know a butcher will never allow anyone to brandish cutlass all around his or her neck. Cows take a lot of perseverance, knife is odious to the neck. I Startle as how Dede and Onlytruth blatantly displaying their "yeye" stupidity on this thread. This also amounts to their errant nonsense for publicly showering encomiums on a glorified geriatric pae//do//phi//le. Don't mIscontrue heroism with greediness, rapacity and precociosness. When it comes to Biafran war, you can praise Ojukwu's heroism, not on the level of old man wanting to gravitate is obscene or lewdly ferlatio virilty towards sweet-sixteen girls. Don't get it twisted that such dishonorable acts is not the bane of just one tribe or better a nation; it amounts to huge societal condemnations to deface such incorrigible acts. @dede Would shut the f**** up, because you sound more intelligent when you close your mouth. It doesn't take a genius to discern that this "young lady" Bianca doesn't feel comfortable with this old man again. As they say, actions speak louder than voices. Err is human and nobody is above mistake, she knew she had made such a irremediable mistake which has also greatly defined her life. Who knows Oju-iku might have used levitation to succumb the innocent girl to his mischivious will. This is a comphrensive lesson for you girls out there, especially to those "OBO OLEs". A word is enough for a wise; just a simple clarion call! |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by EzeUche(m): 5:17am On Apr 16, 2010 |
mama-gee: Mama-gee!!! Shame on you! Alambalagada! Nne gi bu akwunna! Do not ever insult Ojukwu you deluded Igbo woman! Obele nsi! Nne gi na Nna gi na umunnegi nile nwukwa idiot! |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by baslone: 7:02am On Apr 16, 2010 |
bilymuse: I don't believe this! His wife said he's not interested in Money! |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Afam(m): 8:03am On Apr 16, 2010 |
bilymuse: Just as some people have been spreading lies that Nzeribe collected money from IBB until people provided facts and information to prove otherwise. This is another shameless lie by a desperate person. On Saro Wiwa, yes Ojukwu made the famous statement "Good morning" to Saro Wiwa when he came to beg the Igbos to help him in his Ogoni course in Enugu and Ojukwu told him that he was just seeing what he saw a quarter century ago and that he remembered the stand Saro Wiwa took at that time so the Igbos would not help him. Saro Wiwa went to school in the Eastern region with Eastern region's money not oil money but he championed the abandoned properties project as he was made the youngest commissioner in the newly created Rivers state. What goes around comes around so call it nemesis or karma he simply reaped what he sowed. Months later he was hanged. One good thing about this forum is that every single attempt made to rubbish the likes of Nzeribe and Ojukwu with lies has provided opportunities for others to clarify and provide information that many of us never knew about as we have all been fed with lies and misinformation to achieve one clandestine goal or the other by the manipulators of the information. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by medolala: 8:07am On Apr 16, 2010 |
@ metal-gong hank you for acknowledging at least one good thing about the Igbos;unfortunately, the world is still waiting to see the usefulness of you lazy and parasitic yorubas to the cesspit called Nigeria. You even wrote about political leaders, I guess Tinubu, segun Oni, Alao Akala,Awolowo, Obasanjo et cetera are the much touted political leaders of Yoruba extraction. A society where these criminals and wimps are the only leaders they can boast of, goes a long way to show how bereft of leaders you Yoruba men are. However, I must admit that your political leaders are really good in thuggery and assasinations . [color=Black][/color] First i'll like to apologise to all my Igbo brothers. this might sound insulting but it is only meant for metal-gong and his likes who don't know anything except how to yapp there mouth at others. i know a lot of cool igbo dudes and don't have a thing against Ikemba or Bianca. As far as am concerned however there life is, is really non of my biz. Ikemba did what he had to at that period. It cost the igbo populace dearly but no war is without reason, But, It is obvious that you are one of those arrogant and uneducated Igbo loud mouths that has been oppotuned to have the inclination of what the internet is (won't be surprised if you are one of those businessman dropouts, online scammers, or local 419). You guys are so easy to notice. its like a sign post on your forehead that reads " look at me, am a loudmouth" always ego tripping (and falling by the road side) you people flock into Lagos like sheep without a herdsman and destroy everything that gets in contact with you. you are involved in all sorts of illicit businesses & call yourselves businessmen, *humm! - a lame excuse for an entrepreneur. for your info; Yorubas are enterprising and so are some Igbos and hausas! So stop acting like a jerk and speak maturely next time you have something to say. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by igboboy1(m): 9:07am On Apr 16, 2010 |
I dey bow for this yoruba peeps o, Werrin concern Ojukwu with Odua people?' Una dey worship and praise Obasanjo, your oba's, Bode george etc we talk? Abeg make una concern yourself with una matter and leave igbo peeps with their own matter shooooo |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Onlytruth(m): 9:09am On Apr 16, 2010 |
Lol! Mama-gee has gone gaga! lmfao! The Ikemba is an IGBO ICON and stainless. He is my idea of a leader. I am one of his students and I'll try to get as many young Igbos as possible to enroll in the school of Ikemba"ism" -single minded love and devotion. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by baslone: 9:39am On Apr 16, 2010 |
Afam: Mind what you say, Saro was never a coward because he died for the cause he was fighting for! |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by cap28: 10:05am On Apr 16, 2010 |
the reason he hasnt thought about writing these his so called memoirs until now is that what is left of his conscience continues to prick him, he knows that he is a charlatan and a fraud who caused 3m innocent people to lose their lives because of his delusional political ambitions. I do not know of any true leader or man of the people who after losing out to an elite power structure, GOES BACK TO TRY AND FORM AN ALLIANCE WITH THEM - this man embarked on a suicide mission because of his thirst for power, many delusional igbos continue to worship and genuflect before this megalomaniac, they are totally brainwashed and browbeaten by the fact that he came from a wealthy background and studied at Eton and Oxford - my answer to that is - so what? Were other great revolutionaries educated at elite institutions? Did Chavez attend Oxford or Cambridge, Did Fidel Castro attend Yale or Harvard? if anything his foreign education instilled an exaggerated sense of self importance in him, im sure he continues to be haunted by the images from that terrible war and the needless loss of lives. If this man truly stood for the good of igbos what on earth was he doing fraternising with the likes of abacha? |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by cap28: 11:10am On Apr 16, 2010 |
A man who was poised to cash in on power, grandeur and history if the "toil, sweat, tear and blood" of his people pay off, and prepared to run away if everything goes crashing, is not a hero, not even a leader, but an opportunist who gambled with human lives Tochukwu Ezukanma i applaud you for being a courageous and honest igbo man unafraid to say what most brainwashed igbos are too s.tu.p.i.d to see and accept as the truth. This man Ojukwu used and betrayed igbos - and yet many continue to sing his praises like the pathetic gullible i.d.i.o.t.s that they are. Ojukwu is an elitist, he never gave a hoot about the people - it was all about him and his relentless thirst for power, unfortunately he didnt care how many lives it would cost him as long as he didnt lose his own life in the process. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by 1Emmy: 11:34am On Apr 16, 2010 |
Ojukwu remains a hero, a man who fearlessly fought a civil war against housa, yorubas even the united kingdom. Can any tribe raise even a riot against all tribes in Nigeria. Most of you fools have the guts to call him names. Fools |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Afam(m): 11:54am On Apr 16, 2010 |
baslone: Do you have a problem comprehending english language? My comment was based on something - seizing the properties of Igbo people even when he went to school using Eastern region money (not oil money) and still went back to beg the Igbos to help him in the Ogoni struggle. A request that was rightly rejected based on the man's actions not speculations or mere allegations. cap28: @cap28, I want you to keep a list of the number of times you have called those that have not joined you in abusing Ojukwu idiooooottttts or stupiiiidddd. Just in case you turn around to complain when you are addressed in like manner. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by AzukaO(m): 12:02pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
The first time I went to Ojukwu's house and saw him feeding and playing with his and Bianca's kids, I was somewhat embarrassed that this IRON-MAN could be doing such menial and unbecoming things. He was doting over his kids and wife and behaving like a teenager in love for the first time. But looking back, I saw that that is why young ladies usually prefer older men to young men, because older men over-pamper their young wives and children begotten at old age the way grandpas/grandmas 'spoil' their grandchildren, unlike young men who usually go into marriage with over-sized ego and lick their wounds soon after. Just look at the rate our celebrity marriages are crashing in Nigeria and thank God that Ojukwu and Bianca have been together this far. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by AzukaO(m): 12:33pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
Excerpts of Bianca's interview with The Sun How long have you been married to Dim Odumegwu Ojukwu We have been into a relationship since 1989 but we got married formally on November 12, 1994. We have been together for over 20 years because we have been living together since 1989. How old were you and how old was he at the time Well I was 22 while he was in his mid 50s People considered you too young for him at that time. How did you feel then. Its not your conventional relationship. Looking back now I certainly realise that I was very young at that time but it didn’t seem to matter because we had so much in common and we had good communication. The gap was not there in our day-to-day interactions. People found the relationship a bizarre one because of the age difference but it is only now when I look back, now that I have children of my own that I realise that it was rather unusual. You were so much in love at the time that you didn’t notice any disparity in your ages. I don’t know whether I would classify it as being in love. I just know that the difference tended to melt away when compared to the common grounds that we had. We had a similar background and we had so much to talk about. We had common interests and we just did a lot of things together. We went to see plays at the theatre, we went on vacations and there was just no disparity in our interaction. I didn’t feel it at the time. How come you are feeling it now No I don’t feel it now because we have got used to each other having been together for so long. I always say to him I am like the furniture in your house. We are too used to each other. I can complete his sentences and he can complete mine. Really I think at the end of the day that’s what is imperative in every relationship. You must be able to communicate. He understands me fully and he appreciates that mine has been a life of dedication to him. I know the travails he has been through and I appreciate that a man such as him needs somebody to step in and play the role of wife, sister and mother simultaneously and give him peace of mind in his day to day life. Would you say therefore that you were psychologically prepared to be Ojukwu’s wife I come from a political family. If that is being psychologically prepared well I am not the one to say so. But I think I had to shoulder a lot of responsibilities beyond what somebody of my age would reasonably be expected to go through. I had to learn in the process. I think I have done well because it requires diplomacy and the fact that sometimes you have to get out of your skin to mediate in conflicts that will generally arise around a man of his stature. It’s been quite challenging but I thank God that I have been able to navigate the terrain. Has it ever occurred to you that people never gave this marriage a chance, yet it has lasted this long. How does that make you feel I feel blessed. I have known friends in more conventional marriages, who break up, remarry and break up again in this space of time and I am still here. I thank God for his grace because nobody gave this thing a chance of survival. In all honesty I was really young at that time and I did believe that I could handle it. Now when I look back I wonder how I did it. That was not a situation your average 22-year-old could handle. Normally the disparity ought to make the interests different. But the truth is that I didn’t miss those things the average 22-year old would want, like going to parties, clubs and the like. Those were not my interest. Though people have always said that I am very old fashioned and I didn’t have those things that propel people of my age. I wanted a stable marriage. I wanted to live with a man that I had a lot in common with and a man that I could spend the rest of my life with. Having said that the truth is that it requires a lot of sacrifice, commitment and hard work to be able to make it work. Was it that you had to grow up to him or he had to come down to you? How was the mix No question about that, I had to grow up to him. I had to learn to interact with people who were a lot older than I was. Generally from the time I was 22 people who were coming to our various homes were people of his age. They were his friends and by extension they have become my friends too. I give God the glory. He has some of the most dedicated, committed and loyal friends who are dedicated to him and to his struggle. I feel privileged to have met those categories of people. I consider them as family. So I had to grow up to his life. You were not scared by that calibre of people Don’t forget that I am the daughter of a former governor. My father was the Governor of old Anambra State, now consisting of Enugu and parts of Ebonyi. So I was certainly not intimidated because we had such regular high calibre people visiting us. There were Presidents, ex-presidents, Ambassadors, governors were frequent visitors. I was not intimidated in the least. It was just a progression. Just that the same calibre of people were now visiting in another house. The routine was basically the same, just a little bit accentuated. Obviously he loves you and says it to anyone who cares to listen. What are the things he does differently to you that also gives you the impression that he really does love you I think it is the absolute trust that he has in me, the faith. I think every man is looking for a replacement for his mother. That’s one thing I have learnt. In life every man looks for that woman who would not just be his wife but his mother, whose paramount objective is to ensure that he can be the best man he is meant to be. I wouldn’t say that he loves me in an irrational way. Perhaps in me he has been able to find that combination of wife and mother. The mother element is very important because its only your mother that you would trust so absolutely to be able to deliver the best judgments and to be able to pull you back when they think you are doing something wrong. It is just to have absolute trust in your judgment and go to bed with both eyes closed. A lot of people don’t have that in their families. A lot of men find that their wives tend to be quite demanding and impatient and the men then reflect that in their attitude. But I think a woman cannot get the best out of any man by nagging him or making him feel bad and less of a man. But if you let him be a man then you get the best out of him. That’s what has helped this marriage to stay the way it is today. MY COMMENTS Single guys and babes on Nairaland should listen to Bianca and follow her words if they want to have the marriage of their dream. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Nobody: 2:03pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
Somehow I don't believe Ojukwu really is an ethnic champion despite what some fascist elements here want us to believe. By upbringing and orientation he was and still is very much a One Nigeria man. However he has always been a very politically ambitious man. That has always been his primary motivation. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Eziachi: 2:13pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
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Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Eziachi: 2:17pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
mama-gee: So what criteria did you use to come to your conclusion that in the Biafra case, your real heroes are only the dead ones? It will be nice to hear your great wisdom is this regard. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Eziachi: 2:32pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
cap28: I learn new thing every day, as in your warped opinion, the far less minority now tend to carry the vote in your best of wisdom. 35 million gullible and idiotic Igbo men against your one man Igbo hero-Tochukwu Ezukanma. A name you don't even know if it's real or not and I hope your Igbo hero will have the gut to express his wonderful wisdom among his family members, let alone his town folks and then live the next day to tell you more of his wisdom. Ojukwu betrayed the Igbo’s, you told us, and I wonder who is exactly this I Igbo’s you are crying your eyes out for? That must include me I suppose. Nice of you to care so much about us gullible and betrayed Igbo’s who can't recognise their ignorance and needed you the messiah to remind them. You deserve a chieftaincy title for that. But you fool no one. Hypocrites always shed crocodile tears and cry more than the bereaved. They will kill you in the bush and jumped out of the road to organise your funeral and carry the casket themself. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by EzeCanada: 3:48pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
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Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Katsumoto: 4:00pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
cap28: Ojukwu did not attent Eton College; he attended Epsom college in Surrey. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Dede1(m): 4:07pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
bilymuse: I know that reasonable individuals will take the side of prudent before hoisting conjectural craps cull from Internet as a protestant placard. Billygoat, I have long taken a leaf from fact that if you show me your friend I shall tell you what you constitute. I have known Tochukwu Ezukanma for very long period. I think you would agree with me that it is completely out of norms for a person who is more than 33 years old and colossally failed to save his stay in USA due to redeemable immigration problem had no moral justification to level blistering indictment on Ojukwu’s political shrewdness or lack thereof at the same age. I attended the aforementioned gathering between Ojukwu and Ndigbo in Washington, DC and remained one of those who admired and at the time scolded Ojukwu for committing one of the worst military blunder in the annals of military history by appointing Banjo as the commander of 101 BEF. I shall inform you that Ojukwu displayed yet again the love he had for fellow Biafrans when he personally appealed to the rowdy crowd to accord courtesy to the few that mustered the courage to question some of the Ojukwu’s rationales during the war. I am not surprised that this arrant nonsense emanated from Tochukwu who joined forces with one Dr. Okoroji to spearhead the foolish support for the so-called June 12. Believe me anybody that supports the alleged shameful election that deemed MKO Abiola of International Total Thief (ITT) pedigree as duly elected Nigerian presidential candidate is an irredeemable slowpoke. It is only in a cesspit called Nigeria that discernable electorate would elect a renowned embezzler such as MKO Abiola as dog catcher. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by beeke(m): 4:09pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
To all those Ojukwu haters i have just two words 4yall Zap YALL incase u don know IKEMBA NNEWI is like Nelson Madiba Mendela of Igboland so if u dont have anything to say please shut the Zap.u.p i cannot but notice one billymouse that guy is full of s.t.u.pidi.ty in the highest level Long live Ikemba nnewi Long live Eze Ndigbo Long live Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu if you truly know wot Odumegwu means |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Katsumoto: 4:16pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
Dede1: The hate in your heart stops you from analysing issues logically. What as MKO got to do with this thread? You can call MKO an embezzler but at least he didn't run away like a coward. He died in prison for a cause he believed in. Whether you believed in that cause is your prerogative. If you don't want to hear the truth about Ojukwu, you had better leave MKO out of this. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by beeke(m): 4:34pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
bilymuse: billymouse Wot the hell have you been smoking lately and who the f.c.k told you that Ikemba Nnewi took money from abacha or anybody becos your people steal and loot the treasury dos not mean every other person is a thief if u know dis MAN every well u will start to realise how STU.P.ID u can be. indeed you are a sillymouse WTF |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Eziachi: 5:05pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
cap28: Since you believe that 35 million Igbos are brainwashed for almost fifty years, you must be extra ordinary brainy. And these brainwashed men and women includes icons like Chinua Achebe and I know you must have got one or two things to say about Achebe too, maybe how he betrayed the Ndigbo by writing things fall apart, as nothing is impossible with you when it comes to Ndigbo. Now, Please don’t tell me how many Igbo friends you got!! Also since you happened to know Ojukwu’s mind to know why his memoir is delayed, can you kindly tell us when he will die as you seem to know better than even your god. Now your question is whether Castro had oxford degree therefore why should Ojikwu going to Oxford at the time important? I am sure if Ojukwu is a semi illiterate like Obasanjo, Babangida, Abacha or Buhari, you must surely also had qualms with him. Castro/Cher is now your heroes but what made them heroes in your eyes is exactly what Ojukwu tried to do, protecting defenceless people in the face of genocide. Ojukwu did not sanction starvation of children as a weapon of war. He did not seize the money from the poor war victim and refugees as a collective sadistic punishment; he did not ban even importation of frozen fish for hungry war survivors as their further punishment and confiscated the roof over their head and declared it abandoned while they sleep on the streets. He did not make the policy to call people they said to be bunch of traders as “educational advantaged” just to deny them places in the university for almost 35 years. But still, those behind these policies and agendas were you heroes and those you look up to. It is time to put or just shut up! So my challenge to you now is to point out one, not two things Ojukwu did or said that had affected your life and that of your family in the negatives in any form or shape. I am waiting!! Your new vocation now is crying for millions of Igbos that they are fools because they recognised a genuine and uncorrupted leader when they see one in a country where corruption is past time. All in your greatest wisdom. Again, put up or shut up!! |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Afam(m): 5:15pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
Katsumoto: While I agree that MKO is not the issue on this thread could you explain to us what the truth you are telling us about Ojukwu is? It seems this truth is an imaginary truth because all we see here are baseless accusations, crying more than the bereaved and outright lies being told about the man. So, what is the truth about Ojukwu that your type want to tell us? You see, no matter how hard you try you cannot hide your hatred for anything Igbo and yet again you show it here. You call Ojukwu a coward but you display real cowardice by claiming not to hate Igbos yet any opportunity you have to comment on anything related to the Igbos you use it to support baseless accusations or outright lies. This is not just an act of cowardice but a very shameful position. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by bilymuse: 5:17pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
During the biafra war, Ojukwu encouraged Igbos to fight and die for biafra. Deserters and collaborators were summarily executed: order from the above. Ojukwu was killing people who ran away from the war. But at the eleventh hour, the bald headed coward ran away himself. Yet, some psychiatric cases on this forum, with the same hypocritical and betrayal blood running in their vein, are telling me Ojukwu is right. Most of the people defending Ojukwu, without acknowledging historical reality are exactly like Ojukwu. They are vultures. |
Re: Ojukwu's Memoirs In The Offing - Bianca by Katsumoto: 5:26pm On Apr 16, 2010 |
Afam: This debate as been going on for a few days; did you see any comment from me? My first comment was to correct someone who wrongly stated that Ojukwu attended Eton. My second was the comment to dede1. You continue to debate with emotions and no logic; if someone disagrees with you, insults come out. I am not interested in receiving insults. Just let me be. |
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