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Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Nobody: 7:44am On Jun 24, 2018 |
It's wrong....... |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Rainmaker69(m): 7:45am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Its not really a question of wrong or right, sin or virtue. It is more an issue of church policy, left to the church to determine for itself. On the part of the instrumentalist, if s/he plays in churches for a living, then s/he should look for employment in a church that pays instrumentalists. The fact that a person is a professional musician does not automatically entitle him or her to fees in exchange for service, those who make this argument simply want the benefit of a full time job and a part-time church gig. Bottom line is that if the church pays an instrumentalist or any other person, it creates an employee-employer relationship with the church. 1 Like |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Akpacha(m): 7:45am On Jun 24, 2018 |
The church of God is left in d hands of conmen. God save the church. 2 Likes |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Akpacha(m): 7:46am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Okuchris:u are fed fat on pastors lies. |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Iamzik: 7:46am On Jun 24, 2018 |
eph12: And what about the many who didn't pay a dime to learn. They learnt using thesame church instrument and then move on to the next church to charge for playing what they learnt for free. In all I won't say its good or bad. Depends on the situation but my grouse with instrumentalist is this mentality of wanting to monetize anything they do in church. Imagine that every choir member start asking for stipend. If there's no one to sing what is the use of instrumentalist? Imagine ushers, technical/sound, multimedia guys also demanding for payment. Where is the desire to serve in this generation? I am also an instrumentalist and I think people will appreciate you if you do it from your heart without making payment a pre-condition 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by CharleyBright(m): 7:49am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Is it Right to pay the G.O or the Pastor, if you won't pay the worker? Are they all not working in the same vineyard? In a Mega Church engaged in other commercial businesses & where money is flowing in, If you won't pay the Worker, don't pay the Pastor or G.O. Case closed. 1 Like |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by TeameeMoses(m): 7:49am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Bobby4090:You are right there's is a friend of mine that was being given 5k per month not because he's there set drummer, but out of freewill i think because when he left our state he was still being given that gift.... |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Nobody: 7:50am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Jaynom: Pastorship isn't a profession now. |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by GODWINLOWSKI: 7:51am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Nothing sweet Nigerian pastors pass OFFERING TIME, BLESSING TIME. |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Majorkeys(m): 7:52am On Jun 24, 2018 |
aaronson: |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by kokomaster3d: 7:52am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Nothing is free in this world. Even the Bible you have to buy it with money. Even salvation is not free, it cost Jesus Christ his life. So they should be paid nah 3 Likes |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by AkpaMgbor(m): 7:57am On Jun 24, 2018 |
kunleweb:I've noticed this a long time ago...Every Sunday they will post threads that are irrelevant on the front page for mockers and scorners to have a field day....but the good thing is that the Christian faith has seen mockery s and scorners for over two thousand years and still stands like a solid rock.. 1 Like |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Mikora: 7:58am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Okuchris:Do pastors do their work for free? |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by peterkelechi30(m): 7:59am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Wetin concern me...I'm a traditional religionist. the gods won't pay you for incantation |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by anukulapo: 8:00am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Now the argument could be: If pastors get paid, why shouldn't instrumentalists? As some have argued that that's what they do for a living and some didn't acquire the skill cheaply. So why ain't those counting monies from offering and tithes being paid too? They are like bank tellers also. It's a profession, accounting skills don't come cheap. Then the security unit guys also. It's like policing. Children ministry, educators should even be the highest paid. Some can argue so. On and on the argument can go. Why is it a big deal to be a volunteer pastor? Aren't there unpaid pastors? What's the big deal about paying instrumentalists? Why do we have to "fight" for them to be paid and leave the ushers out? Abeg, Christians should wake up and go and evangelize. All this four walls of so called church administration wahala no be priority of our faith (though if wrongly done, na palava since na there we don "cage" God put). 2 Likes |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by CharleyBright(m): 8:02am On Jun 24, 2018 |
GODWINLOWSKI: Laff wan kill me o. But jokes apart, this is absolutely true. Recently, when we wanted to bury my father inlaw, the church came up with an obnoxious list of items and cash for them to conduct burial service. The list wasn't funny. As if the church was more interested in eating and causing more hardship on the family rather than easing the pains of the family. |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Armstrong34(m): 8:04am On Jun 24, 2018 |
do you know how much it cost to learn music at MUSON center ,Peterkings music school or ten strings...we spend more than 70k for theory, 30k for practicals for a grade ...and there are over 12 grades to pass through bfor you can be called a professional pianist or saxophonist |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by sobastical: 8:05am On Jun 24, 2018 |
darkmarky:Are you still getting upset about tithing? I will help you the more now I LOVE PAYING TITHE I LOVE PAYING TITHE I LOVE PAYING TITHE I LOVE PAYING TITHE I LOVE PAYING TITHE I LOVE PAYING TITHE I LOVE PAYING TITHE I LOVE PAYING TITHE I LOVE PAYING TITHE if you reply or mention me I will repeat it the more. . 1 Like |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by iliyande(m): 8:06am On Jun 24, 2018 |
NO |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by darkmarky(m): 8:07am On Jun 24, 2018 |
sobastical:oh please continue.. I would love this stupidity to be repeated |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by GODWINLOWSKI: 8:08am On Jun 24, 2018 |
CharleyBright:No be lie. |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Fela4ese: 8:09am On Jun 24, 2018 |
It all depends if he is a member of the church and he is free at that time he should play for free but if he it is a a normal work he should b paid.pastors also get paid I mean some full time pastors in our chur churches |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Armstrong34(m): 8:10am On Jun 24, 2018 |
HomeOfMe:.... do you know how much it cost to learn music at MUSON center ,Peterkings music school or ten strings musical institute...we spend more than 70k for theory, 30k for practicals for a grade ...and there are over 12 grades to pass through bfor you can be called a professional pianist or saxopho 1 Like |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by DavidEsq(m): 8:11am On Jun 24, 2018 |
hisgrace090:I think the question is: "is he a workman"? If yes, for whom? God or man? If u say he is a workman, wouldn't that mean that the house of God has become a place for merchants to ply their trade? If he is a workman, under whose employment is he? If the purpose of doing what he does is to bring praise to God, then wat is the basis of the employer-employee ish? The simple truth is dis: our selfishness and greed has caused us to turn the scriptures upside down. OP, if ur frnd's opinion is skewered, u didn't offer any unskewered opinion, neither did u tell us why his opinion is skewered. |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by DavidEsq(m): 8:12am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Armstrong34:So is it in God's house u wld now ply ur trade? |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by aAK1(m): 8:13am On Jun 24, 2018 |
dazzlingd:you don't read your Bible and it's very clear From your statement.the Levites also had a share according to sciptures |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by oismail(m): 8:15am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Are they not working? |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by aAK1(m): 8:18am On Jun 24, 2018 |
anukulapo:so you mean in your church you have volunteer security 24/7? And your accountants are not paid to? I wonder how much they are counting |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by yusuf99(m): 8:20am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Why not! are they not the ones energizing Church goers to pay offering after pastors tricks, why not paying them their due u think pastors are the only ones to shared the goodies in our Church pastor and elders once fought over sharing what they loot from us because the pastor wanted to buy 40m g-wagon for his wife and the elders insisted of taking same amount. |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by AGHAUDEJNR(m): 8:22am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Gudmn 2 U All... 2 Me I Tink Der Shud Be A Welfare Package... Nd Once In A While D Pastor Shud Raise Money Durin Savice 2 Encourage D Instrumentalists. Dis Will Motivate Dem2 Give Der All Durin Savice Nd Other Church Activities. |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by Pataricatering(f): 8:23am On Jun 24, 2018 |
Okuchris:hmmn ! Even if that’s how you make a living ? Church doesn’t pay tax and also collect free labor - no wonder pastors buy jets ! |
Re: Of Church Instrumentalists And Payments by excel101(m): 8:23am On Jun 24, 2018 |
It all depends on his level of conviction. If he's jobless then the leaders of his local assembly should assist in securing a job for him, rather than being paid by the church. My personal reason is, if the instrumentalist is being paid, then he has received the reward of his services but if not being paid, it mean that God will be his reward. God said that " i'll not forget your labour of love towards Me " we all know the difference between mans reward and God's reward. 1 Like |
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