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Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Vic2Ree(m): 5:59am On Jan 02, 2019 |
JasonScoolari: Eyyaaa My brother kpele. IhsOk, we understand how u feel. Just lie down let Aunty Sabrina flog u well 11 Likes |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 6:30am On Jan 02, 2019 |
JasonScoolari: Lol. Why are you trying to deny the fact that you brought this on yourself? This is basically what happened: Sabrina created a thread containing a sensitive topic. You being the jerk who dislikes to hear opinions that contrast yours, got triggered and felt the need to respond. She stated it clearly from the onset that she didn't want a verbal fight. But you wanted to engage her in a battle of wits and apparently you were unarmed. You initiated the insulting remarks, but when you realized that after a couple of posts you were getting owned, you started trying frantically to damage control the situation by posting memes and jokes. Just admit that you messed yourself up. Everyone can see that. Just read through the comments, no one has your back. You can't deny this. 14 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by jesmond3945: 8:41am On Jan 02, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:i want to ask you if God is incompetent why do humans build prisons does it make them incompetent? God built Hell for Satan and his angels only and not for humans, does it make Him incompetent since humans are required to build prisons then why is God not allowed to build his own called hell? Now you will ask why humans go to hell? Christ made it clear that if you belong to Satan then definitely you will to where he is. Take for example, if buhari jailed every pdp memeber and then every apc member would be in aso rock, if tommorow i wake up and say i want to be a pdp member definitely common sense would make you go to jail by virture of your membership. Your next question would be why would God send satan away to hell? Assuming you as the mother of the house your daughter kills her baby sister or she wants to kill you as the mother, would you still allow her stay in the house with you? |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Dantedasz(m): 9:32am On Jan 02, 2019 |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 9:34am On Jan 02, 2019 |
Vic2Ree: This. You literally took the words right out of my mouth. |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by sonmvayina(m): 9:39am On Jan 02, 2019 |
MrPRevailer: Really?? Or is it just mistranslations on your part.. |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 10:12am On Jan 02, 2019 |
MhizAngel99: I'm personally just letting him do his thing. He's the one who insulted himself with his display of uncharted unintelligence and gutlessness. He's officially made himself the disgraced clown of this thread. 9 Likes |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by jesmond3945: 10:16am On Jan 02, 2019 |
Vic2Ree:ok very well but I want to say this do you remember in the bible where it was written that narrow is the way but wide is the other way? What does it tell you. Ok lets put it this way, assuming you are a teacher and you are supposed to teach for your students to pass their exams and it is a must because no student will pass until you teach and then you are probably the Principal and not meant to teach but because you want your students to pass you left your position and came down as a teacher. During the time of teaching you said granted that I am teaching it doesnt mean all will pass infact only few will pass and others would fail. The majority would fail and the reason is not because i taught but because you hate me as the teacher. So you will prefer to fail than to pass. This story is exactly what happened. People hate Jesus thats why Satan is winning and if many people hate Jesus and few people love Him does it change anything, would it make Jesus not to be Jesus? Atheist respect Jesus but dont love Him, Muslims respect Jesus but dont love Him. Even Chrsistians respect Jesus but dont Love Him. So would He force people to Love Him? So now if people love Satan more than Jesus does it mean God is incompetent? So if people hate you more than they love you does it mean you are incompetent?. My God doesnt need to prove to any man that he is God, if his creation decided to hate him because they love satan so be it. So telling me God has failed because what he created despise Him is funny let me tell you the mountains worship him, the ocean bow to him, angels adore him he doesnt need you rather you need him. He even tried coming down to die as a man. 1 Like |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by zzzzy: 10:34am On Jan 02, 2019 |
God already did his part that he didn't even need to. It's now left to man to accept or not. God has nothing to lose. Don't accept, you go to hell, do so, otherwise. |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 11:08am On Jan 02, 2019 |
zzzzy: Hypothetical Question: What if God really didn't exist? Will you be more afraid or less afraid of sinning? One major reason for the endurance of religion is the concept of heaven, hell and the apocalypse. This is what spurs christians, consciously or otherwise to maintain this delusion. Google "Pascal's Wager". That sums up your point, but the thing is, even if a deity was proven to exist via empirical evidence, there's no way to determine which religion is right in their beliefs. Arguing that Christianity is right because its the most famous religion would be condescending to Argumentum Ad Populum. You can google that one too. A moral atheist is better than a moral christian. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 12:29pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:Sorry Sir/Ma, it's misinterpretation that's killing most people. HELL is just another English for GRAVE. God's intention is for humans to live forever on earth but they must heed to HIS counsel and guidance. Why? (1) they've not yet master their own bodies. (2) how to relate with other intelligent beings that will soon come as they continue to reproduce. (3) taking good care of their environment. That's the significance of the TREE of good and evil,which God said they mustn't eat of it! Sadly our first parents Adam and Eve aren't ready to wait for such counsels so they lost the privilege of living forever because they will continue to harm themselves and others as they ignore lifesaving instructions from their landlord (God) Today the earth is filled with wickedness due to their decision back then but God has arranged for a global educational program on how to master those requirements through a role model (Jesus). Whoever allows for his/her mind to be trained by this role model will be permitted to recover what our first parents lost(everlasting life). As for those who turned down the offer,their portion is a return to dust just like Adam and Eve returned NEVER to come back again. Majority of mankind have proved they're not interested in life so they're no more coming back but few have displayed a waiting attitude for God to correct what happened in Eden,they'll be opportuned to continue with the educational program which must last for 1,000 years! That's the significance of RESURRECTION! Thanks 2 Likes |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Dantedasz(m): 1:04pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
What if you are wrong? What if Christianity is not the true religion? Watch this video if you have data... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GScdUIYXglA 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by sonmvayina(m): 1:08pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
AFRAID OF HELL? To my Christian friends. For those people who are afraid of Hell, read your Bible and find out that the concept of Hell as an eternal fire, is not in the Bible. When God spoke to Adam and Eve after they ate from the tree, he said (Gen 3: 19); “By the sweat of your face, you shall get bread to eat, until you return to the ground from which you were taken. For you are dirt and to dirt you shall return”. This says nothing about eternal punishment or Hell. In the last part of Gen 3:21 God says: “The man has become like one of us, knowing what is good and what is bad! Therefor, he must not be allowed to put out his hand to take fruit from the tree of life also and thus eat of it and live forever.” These two passages, if you believe the Bible is he word of God, clearly states that the punishment is to forego eternal life and that you die and become dirt, there is nothing stated about eternal punishment. There is another contradiction here. If eating from the tree makes you live forever “thus eat from it and live forever” Adam and Eve should live forever but God is punishing them by taking that possibility away. The conclusion is clear. The punishment is: no eternal life but death, not eternal burning in Hell. The word “Hell” is a wrong translation for the original “Sheol” or “Hades” meaning “grave” and “forgetfulness” in the OT and in the NT “Gehenna” , also translated as Hell, was actually an existing burning trash heap outside Jerusalem, where dead bodies were burned This trash heap burned all the time and bodies were burned there for total destruction, therefor they could not be resurrected and live eternally. This was called the second death. Revelation2:11, 20-6, 20:14, 21:8 |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 2:24pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
To all the christians here: Can i just point out that some of you christians are very judgmental of everyone that disagrees with you. I find that interesting, but not surprising. Most believe, and maybe you don’t, that God desires peace and happiness for His creations. That is His will. For any one to be able to make a choice that overrides his desire and will, they would have to have a will stronger than His. I’m aware of the dogma and standard talking points you’re recycling. I’ve heard them from many. I understand them and reject them. In the end, you believe that you are right about God. Distilled, I’m saying a God that commands the killing of babies suckling on their mothers and creates beings (assuming he is all knowing, it is possible you believe his knowledge is limited and not omniscient and doesn’t encompass the choices people will make) He knows will make choices that lead to eternal punishment is evil. So you’re saying God knows the choices those babies will make, but not the choices people make to accept his story or not? If it is true that he knew those babies would do so, why create them in the first place? Why create them to have them slaughtered? You can’t apply your logic to one thing but not the other as it then fails to be logic. What if your choice to believe this particular God, and not the thousands of other ones, is wrong? Only faith can dictate that as logic would have to reject the ridiculousness found in the book. What if the half of Christians in the first few centuries that believed the God of the Old Testament was evil were correct and Jesus came to save Us from Him? Only faith can make that choice. If you actually want to evangelize and save folks, demeaning and telling people they don’t understand because they disagree is giving Satan the win. You christians need to use your tongues to count your teeth. 3 Likes |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by MrPRevailer(m): 3:04pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
sonmvayina: Are you asking me? Why not you explain to me why the WRITTEN PLAIN text is a mistranslation, so that I can read the degree/tempeterature of your mental condition!! |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Dantedasz(m): 3:49pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
Scientifically is hell even possible except through MAGIC? Watch the video,If you have data and be enlightened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcxyGnFU9bA 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by sonmvayina(m): 4:29pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
MrPRevailer: Very funny, but I forgot to laff.. Psalm 55:15 ► SUM PIC XRF DEV STU Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the realm of the dead, for evil finds lodging among them. |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by sonmvayina(m): 4:31pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
MrPRevailer: I don't see any hell mentioned.. In all the version I checked.. Which are you using? |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by sonmvayina(m): 4:36pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
jesmond3945: Satan is not evil or independent of God, there is no ancient text that says so... In fact without Satan you cannot survive... Because he is the God of the air, without air you can't survive.... And satan is not a dual opposite of God, to think so is insulting to God... Stop, before the hammer of God fall on you in ways you can't comprehend.. You are warned.. |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by jesmond3945: 4:45pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
sonmvayina:please get behind me child of satan. I know you not. Go ahead and serve satan while I serve my Jesus. |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by chiedu7: 4:58pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX: Mumuism hold u. As u said God has given Free will, yet you reject Him. So if u end up in hell, u have ursef to blame |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 5:12pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
I'm just going to repost this for all the clueless vagabonds jumping into this thread without context. (am looking at u, @chiedu7) XxSabrinaxX: |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by sonmvayina(m): 5:14pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
jesmond3945: Which is better? A being created by God (Satan) and a being created by man(jesus)... You have made your choice.. But at least you where warned... And educated... |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 5:18pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
chiedu7: How can you even have the gall to call me a mumu when you and your likes are literally enslaved by a religion and a God you have no substantial evidence of? If you weren't a mentally infested bush rat, you'll notice that i put "freewill" in parentheses meaning that i DON'T believe in this so called "freewill". Please if you have nothing to offer, just leave this thread while you still can. I'm not going to be responsible for what happens next. I've exerted too much negative energy in this thread already. 1 Like |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by sonmvayina(m): 5:29pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX: God is the personification of totality of the consciousness of the universe fully embodied.. Not a dead jew or a genie.. God is not a man or human being,... 2 Likes |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by jesmond3945: 5:33pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
sonmvayina:i prefer man Jesus. Thank you. Swallow your warning with some lamb sauce. |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by sonmvayina(m): 5:35pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
The gospel stories comes from ancient tales about marduk the son of Enki... The mistake started whether deliberately or not, when Athanasius stood up at the council of Nicea and said he was both God and man.. The gospel was then re worked to bring jesus (marduk) into human history..but waa poorly done.. Like, I e. g what is the purpose of the two contradictory genealogies in Mathew and luke if Jesus is not related to Joseph by blood? 2 Likes |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by mnwankwo(m): 5:50pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX: Hello OP. What is the purpose of your post? Are you approaching this matter in order to clarify what remains a puzzle to you? Are you already convinced that God does not exist but are raising these issues for mere intellectual debate? If you are seeking for the truth, kindly rephrase these issues into appropriate questions and I will offer my perception on them. Best Wishes. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 6:00pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
sonmvayina:You should have searched for TRUE Christians to understand the gospels better! Matthew and Luke aren't saying Jesus was related to Joseph by blood. Matthew's account of Jesus' birth was through Mary's biography because Joseph and Mary were related from the lineage of Judah, you'll notice that the names in the lineage changed at some point,so Joseph is considered a son before his In-law! while Luke's account traced the descent from Adam down to Joseph who was considered by everyone as "Jesus' father". And while you're quoting the Bible book of Revelations, please note that it's part of the books WRITTEN by John one of the followers of JESUS the same person you're denying His Lordship! When i was a Muslim, we condemned Apostle Paul because he also condemned Muhammad at {Galatians 1:8} but when we want to support our belief that women must cover their heads, we'll quote the same Apostle Paul's letter to the Corinthians 11:10 because there is NO other book to quote in support of our hijab! |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by Nobody: 6:38pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
sonmvayina: Would you happen to be a pantheist? |
Re: If Hell Truly Exists, Then God Is Not Only Evil, He's Also Incompetent by enronaldonante: 6:44pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX: I thought God as the ultimate moral arbiter is above Good and Evil? So what the hell do you mean by "God Is Evil"? |
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