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Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by bawomolo(m): 4:07pm On Aug 11, 2010
lol! That's the best solution to the gay issue. I'll personally suggest that their anus be blocked too!

yup block their anus and they would stop being gay. true since anal sexx is the only form of intercourse and all there is to a relationship is sexx.

you guys are genius.  Go to church preaching love and tolerance every Sunday but still have more hatred than hitler.
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by Nobody: 4:07pm On Aug 11, 2010
bawomolo:

this is discriminatory.  UNILAG should be ashamed of itself.
i guess gay people shouldn't get a degree


Africa is discriminatory towards gays, period.

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Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by philip0906(m): 4:07pm On Aug 11, 2010
bawomolo:

this is discriminatory.  UNILAG should be ashamed of itself.
i guess gay people shouldn't get a degree

This is Nigeria not America. . .u should have asked 4 d motive behind it. . .U want him 2 despoil and introduce others in2 it?If he had prolly graduated 4rm there,he'll have gained more grounds and u'll hear dat someone is organising gay walk in ikeja and all dat rubbish undecided
By the way Bawolomo u sound gay. . . undecided undecided
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by blacksta(m): 4:10pm On Aug 11, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Africa is discriminatory towards gays, period.



Lol - No wonder - shocked
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by bawomolo(m): 4:11pm On Aug 11, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Africa is discriminatory towards gays, period.

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pastor eat da poo poo is my hero  grin grin

that man watches scat porne and describes it to his congregation  cool

philip0906:

This is Nigeria not America. . .u should have asked 4 d motive behind it. . .U want him 2 despoil and introduce others in2 it?If he had prolly graduated 4rm there,he'll have gained more grounds and u'll hear dat someone is organising gay walk in ikeja and all dat rubbish undecided

no one introduces you to homosexuality, you are either gay or not from the beginning.  did someone introduce you to liking women?

lol@bisi alimi despoiling men all over unilag's campus. this is homophobia at this finest, something is wrong with your head if you are paranoid about a gay man hitting on you.

By the way Bawolomo u sound gay. . .

what a shocker, i've not heard this before on nairaland.
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by tenhap(m): 4:12pm On Aug 11, 2010
Yes, Gay people should NOT get a degree!!!
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by Nobody: 4:13pm On Aug 11, 2010
philip0906:

This is Nigeria not America. . .u should have asked 4 d motive behind it. . .U want him 2 despoil and introduce others in2 it?If he had prolly graduated 4rm there,he'll have gained more grounds and u'll hear dat someone is organising gay walk in ikeja and all dat rubbish undecided
By the way Bawolomo u sound gay. . . undecided undecided
Do you ppl ever point out your views without personal insults?

Let the gays have their right jare. We should worry more about rape esp statutory rape.


@blacksta
o ti tun bere abi? no wonder what kini?

kaaro sha
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by EzeUche22(m): 4:13pm On Aug 11, 2010
I know an issue that can unite Nigerians and Africa in general.

Our hatred for gays.

It is not right. An abomination against God and man. That crosses all tribal lines.
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by bawomolo(m): 4:14pm On Aug 11, 2010
tenhap:

Yes, Gay people should NOT get a degree!!!

cheesy cheesy cheesy

ikeke idi - you are a carpet muncher lipsrsealed
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by Nobody: 4:15pm On Aug 11, 2010
bawomolo:

cheesy cheesy cheesy

ikeke idi - you are a carpet muncher lipsrsealed

Lol loser, what does that mean?
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by Dawgpound: 4:15pm On Aug 11, 2010
bkbabe,
Who da hell is that boy or girl?
Excuse my slangs but I'm very educated. Two masters and PHD. I'm bisexual and take care of myself. I dont see why my life bothers you people. Why is it EVIL? What have you FOOLS done about the evils in Nigeria? Not a damn thing. You guys are complete cowards. You cant face your evil governors, police men, army, armed robbers, kidnappers that wrecking havoc on you and the society but you are bold enough to condemn men and women who love each other. I'm A MAN that like asss, tits, pussy and dickkkk. Hate it or love it I'm gon be me.

Eze,
I dont really follow many discussions but I only singled you out coz you said something about Aro men not being gay. Thats a lie dude. You are not exposed to know stuff like that. Naija niggaz have gone nuclear. They have private facebook pages where they do their thing. ooohhhh weeeeehhhhhh man. I've seen a lot. BTW!! I'm Ogoni if you care to know.
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by aieromon(m): 4:16pm On Aug 11, 2010
I'm sure he was busy raping boys while on campus.The idiots in UNIBEN used to hang around medical hostel looking for male flesh.Sicks mofos
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by philip0906(m): 4:17pm On Aug 11, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Do you ppl ever point out your views without personal insults?

Let the gays have their right jare. We should worry more about despoil esp statutory despoil.


@blacksta
o ti tun bere abi? no wonder what kini?

kaaro sha
Please point out where I insulted anybody? By the way,u sef follow join.U r begining 2 confirm d real u on nairaland.Always wondered y u threw all those jibes at the opposite gender undecided undecided
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by Horus(m): 4:17pm On Aug 11, 2010
A man should not be intimidated by a homosexual. By that I mean, those people who set out to preach “fire and brimstone,” the beating and harassing of homosexuals and lesbians, in most cases are people that fear for a dormant personality that might come forth from themselves. If you are sure about your manhood or womanhood, then you should have no fear of socializing or befriending a person with different sexual preferences than you. The very fear is a confession that if you were to socialize with a homosexual or lesbian you’re afraid you might become a homosexual or a lesbian.
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by missuzoma: 4:18pm On Aug 11, 2010
dawgpond, Arochukwu is not in Imo state. Can you leave off the Igbo bit?
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by bawomolo(m): 4:19pm On Aug 11, 2010
Horus:

A man should not be intimidated by a homosexual. By that I mean, those people who set out to preach “fire and brimstone,” the beating and harassing of homosexuals and lesbians, in most cases are people that fear for a dormant personality that might come forth from themselves. If you are sure about your manhood or womanhood, then you should have no fear of socializing or befriending a person with different sexual preferences than you. The very fear is a confession that if you were to socialize with a homosexual or lesbian you’re afraid you might become a homosexual or a lesbian.

but but but bisi alimi would rappe our men in unilag  shocked shocked shocked

let the homophobia continue.

bawomolo:

cheesy cheesy cheesy

ikeke idi - you are a carpet muncher  lipsrsealed

google is your friend dear cheesy
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by blacksta(m): 4:19pm On Aug 11, 2010
bawomolo:


no one introduces you to homosexuality, you are either gay or not from the beginning.  did someone introduce you to liking women?


Absolute nonsense and very unfactual statement to make.  This revolting act was learnt on this earth / it all started with human corruption and Sexual attraction amongst same sex is very unatural and a diversion from the intended plan.
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by EzeUche22(m): 4:20pm On Aug 11, 2010
Dawgpound,

You must be one of those down low (DL) brothers I hear so much about in the states. Do not bring that nonsense to Nigeria. Keep that in the West. Black men sleeping with other men while they have wife and spreading diseases to her. Dammn disgrace
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by honeric01(m): 4:20pm On Aug 11, 2010
bawomolo:

yup block their anus and they would stop being gay. true since anal sexx is the only form of intercourse and all there is to a relationship is sexx.

you guys are genius.  Go to church preaching love and tolerance every Sunday but still have more hatred than hitler.

Please we just don't want it and majority carry the vote  grin grin grin

can you accommodate some gay men in your American house? please some are about seeking "asylum" in the US and we need volunteers
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by Dawgpound: 4:20pm On Aug 11, 2010
The Ughanda pastor is closet GAY. Wha straight man sits down to watch gay porn from begining to end and then even describes it with details? Many overly anti gay men are usually gay men suppressing their tendencies.

Anyways, BAWOLOMO, is that u in that pic coz girl u 5n as 4k. I wanna holla if u down check me out and yeah dats me all tatted up like that. I'm Nigerian too but I guess a bit way too Americanized.
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by EzeUche22(m): 4:21pm On Aug 11, 2010
missuzoma:

dawgpond, Arochukwu is not in Imo state. Can you leave off the Igbo bit?

He is bk.babe97. I was going to correct him, but it was no use. Saying Arochukwu is in Imo. lol
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by honeric01(m): 4:21pm On Aug 11, 2010
bawomolo:

but but but bisi alimi would rappe our men in unilag  shocked shocked shocked

let the homophobia continue.

google is your friend dear cheesy

Dawgpound:

The Ughanda pastor is closet GAY. Wha straight man sits down to watch gay indecency from begining to end and then even describes it with details? Many overly anti gay men are usually gay men suppressing their tendencies.

Anyways, BAWOLOMO, is that u in that pic coz girl u 5n as 4k. I wanna holla if u down check me out and yeah dats me all tatted up like that. I'm Nigerian too but I guess a bit way too Americanized.

Bro, you have got a suitor already  grin grin grin grin
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by Nobody: 4:22pm On Aug 11, 2010
Ok, anybody that turns this into a tribal debate is just a dimwit. you guys should shut the hell up for once. awon odesin oshi


@bawomolo

ori e ko pe rara  grin grin grin Because i tried to make a sexual move on you makes me a muncher? were you a babe before?
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by philip0906(m): 4:22pm On Aug 11, 2010
blacksta:

Absolute nonsense and very unfactual statement to make.  This revolting act was learnt on this earth / it all started with human corruption and Sexual attraction amongst same sex is very unatural and a diversion from the intended plan.
GBAM!!! grin grin
Ileke-IdI:

Do you ppl ever point out your views without personal insults?

Let the gays have their right jare. We should worry more about despoil esp statutory despoil.


@blacksta
o ti tun bere abi? no wonder what kini?

kaaro sha
Unbelievable. . .Look at what a nigerian is saying and u tell me dat u r straight.U r only confirming a whole lot of things about u
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by blacksta(m): 4:23pm On Aug 11, 2010
Ileke-IdI:



@blacksta
o ti tun bere abi? no wonder what kini?

kaaro sha

o fe tas i me abi

u too Good Afternoon - The time here is 16:21  grin
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by EzeUche22(m): 4:24pm On Aug 11, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Ok, anybody that turns this into a tribal debate is just a dimwit. you guys should shut the hell up for once. awon odesin oshi

No one is turning this into a tribal debate, because no tribe supports this abomination.

So you don't turn this into a tribal debate. People talking about being gay is un-African. angry angry

Any gay African learned it from the West!
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by bawomolo(m): 4:25pm On Aug 11, 2010
Dawgpound:

Anyways, BAWOLOMO, is that u in that pic coz girl u 5n as 4k. I wanna holla if u down check me out and yeah dats me all tatted up like that. I'm Nigerian too but I guess a bit way too Americanized.

i'm a man, dawgpound.

but ikeke-idi is available.   you won't be disappointed.  wink

blacksta:

Absolute nonsense and very unfactual statement to make.  This revolting act was learnt on this earth / it all started with human corruption and Sexual attraction amongst same sex is very unatural and a diversion from the intended plan.

lol no one can't covert a secure straight men into being gay.  you might try not to suppress your gayness if you think being an homo/bi can be learnt.

having a romantic connection to people of the same sex isn't just learnt. I find nothing wrong with homosexuality by the way.
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by Nobody: 4:25pm On Aug 11, 2010
philip0906:

GBAM!!! grin grin
Unbelievable. . .Look at what a nigerian is saying and u tell me dat u r straight.U r only confirming a whole lot of things about u

Ehrrm are gays not ppl? you've prolly commited more sins than a christain gay.

Come and lemme show you how str8, ode grin



@blacksta
ehrrrm ori e bi ori agbon tongue tongue ta lo n ta si e?
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by Nobody: 4:26pm On Aug 11, 2010
bawomolo:

i'm a man, dawgpound.

but ikeke-idi is available.   you won't be disappointed.  wink

lol no one can't covert a secure straight men into being gay.  you might try not to suppress your gayness if you think being an homo/bi can be learnt.

having a romantic connection to people of the same sex isn't just learnt. I find nothing wrong with homosexuality by the way.

busayo, I swear to God. . . . . give me a bat, some  matches, kerosine and your location. angry angry angry

BTW, Dude is bisexual, being a man doesnt change a thing.
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by honeric01(m): 4:26pm On Aug 11, 2010
philip0906:

GBAM!!! grin grin
Unbelievable. . .Look at what a nigerian is saying and u tell me dat u r straight.U r only confirming a whole lot of things about u

She is a woman and indirectly, all women are lesbians grin grin grin (They have the tendency locked somewhere inside of them) grin grin
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by philip0906(m): 4:27pm On Aug 11, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Ehrrm are gays not ppl? you've prolly commited more sins than a christain gay.

Come and lemme show you how str8, ode grin



@blacksta
ehrrrm ori e bi ori agbon tongue tongue ta lo n ta si e?
shioooor. . .u need help grin grin
Re: Gay Nigerian Activist Bisi Alimi Shares His Compelling Story by bawomolo(m): 4:27pm On Aug 11, 2010
EzeUche22:

Any gay African learned it from the West!

not really, homosexuality existed in africa before the white man came, this is a FACT.

Our knowledge of homosexuality in prehistoric African cultures is limited by the late-Middle Age European views of Africans, of homosexuality, and of course, the European reason for being in sub-Saharan Africa in the first place - the slave trade. Among the earliest references to it are some of the records of the Inquisition in Brazil. From the Denunciations of Bahia, (1591-1593) comes this thoroughly racist reference to it:

     "Francisco Manicongo, a cobbler's apprentice known among the slaves as a sodomite for 'performing the duties of a female' and for 'refusing to wear the men's clothes which the master gave him.' Francisco's accuser added that in Angola and the Congo in which he had wandered much and of which he had much experience, it is customary among the pagan negros to wear a loincloth with the ends in front which leaves an opening in the rear, this custom being adopted by the sodomitic negros who serve as passive women in the abominable sin. These passives are called jimbandaa in the language of Angola and the Congo, which means passive sodomite. The accuser claimed to have seen Francisco Manicongo "wearing a loincloth such as passive sodomites wear in his land of the Congo and immediately rebuked him." (quoted by J. Treveisan, Perverts in Paradise, London, 1986. Elipses are his.)

We can see from such references, that homosexuality was present in Africa from at least the earliest of European contact, and without much doubt, from long before. It wasn't just central Africa, either. While European proprieties made such graphic description of African homosexualities uncommon in their descriptions of Africa, there are enough references to it to know that it was indeed present, and even used as a justification for considering African cultures primitive enough to justify slavery.

Among the last African cultures to be subjugated by Europeans, the Hausa peoples of northern Nigeria and the surrounding countries offer interesting examples of homosexuality among Islmaicized peoples of Africa. Conquered by the British only in 1904, they were studied extensively by British ethnographers within a decade and a half of the arrival of the British - having experienced very limited contact with Europeans in the meantime. These ethnographers included sexual practices, including homosexuality, in their survey. Thus, they give us a unique glimpse into a nearly pristine African Islamic culture.

The Hausa people have terms in their language that are used to describe homosexuals. Two terms are common, 'yan dauda, which is usually translated as "homosexual" or "transvestite" and 'dan dauda, which translates as a homosexual "wife." The 'yan dauda in Hausaland engange in stereotypical professions, much as marginalized gay men in the west often do. In Hausaland, they are often engaged in the sex trade - both as male prostitutes and as 'procurers' for female prostitutes. In the latter role, they do not behave as 'pimps' do in the west, maintaining 'stables' of female prostitutes under their subjugation, but rather simply as go-betweens, arranging, for a fee, liasons for men seeking the commercial charms of female prostitutes. In this role, they often engage as male prostitutes themselves when the opportunity arises.

Among other African tribes, homosexual behavior among premarriage adolescents is common and is not even considered to be sex, since it does not involve procreative potential. In Camaroon, for example, homosexual acts as late as age 17 are considered innocent, not being "true" sexual relations. Such youth consider themselves virgins at marriage, even though they may have considerable homosexual experience in both roles. There are many stories among the Pangwe of Camaroon of men who hate women and prefer the company of men even when offered a large brideprice, of men who court other men, etc. That these behaviors existed within this tribe prior to European contact is evidenced by the richness and number of these stories.

In Zimbabwe, a nation racked by recent homophobic pogroms instituted by its viciously homophobic dictator, Robert Mugabe, there has historically been little known about homosexual behavior among peoples present prior to European contact. Some ethnographers have dishonestly attempted to show that homosexual behavior is a recent innovation encouraged by Europeans to serve their capital interests, in housing large numbers of male Africans together in barracks to serve as labor in the mines.

The reality is that homosexuality existed in Zimbabwe long prior to European contact, just like it did anywhere else in Africa. We know this because the San people had the indiscretion to record their group anal sexual intercourse on rock paintings that date back thousands of years.

The Bantu-speaking peoples of the plateau country were more circumspect, but have admitted to ethnographers that homosexual contact did occur, and was expected of pre-marriage adolescent males.

Court documents from the colonial era from Zimbabwe and South Africa (1920 and 1917 respectively) indicate that among both the Mazoe and Ndebele peoples of Zimbabwe and South Africa respectively, a fine of one beast was levied against persons attempting to engage in sodomy by traditional rulers in pre-colonial times from both tribes. This fine equates to a misdemeanor - evidence that it was not heavily frowned upon, nor particularly uncommon.

Colonial court records also show that prosecution for male homosexuality at the onset of colonial rule amounted to 1.5 percent of criminal cases in Zimbabwe, eventually declining to near zero, while prosecutions for heterosexual crimes, such as indecent assault, rape, etc., rose from almost nothing to significant portions of the criminal dockets. It must be noted that because the 1.5 percent represented unwilling participants in the criminal process, the actual extent of homosexual behavior was certainly much greater, since only those caught in flagrante delicto, those prosecuted with amicus, or those accused by jilted lovers or others with an axe to grind, represent the criminal numbers we see in the records. The actual numbers were certainly much higher. In more than 90 percent of cases, the defendant was an African male accused of assualting another African male or boy. Cases involving Europeans were much more rare.

The notion that this is "a white-man's disease of recent origin" is made laughable by an even cursory examination of the criminal records of colonial Zimbabwe and South Africa. A close qualitative analysis of the early colonial trial transcripts shows that there was often shared property resulting from long-standing cohabitation by the defendant and his accusor. That the courts had to sort out the property details shows that these men had often considered themselves in a de facto marriage prior to their dispute.

Contrary to Mugabe's and other Afrocentrists' assertions, analysis of the colonial court cases shows that the rate of prosecution for homosexual behaviors was highest among the more indigenous peoples (Shona, 17% and Ndebele, 16%), and least among the "industrialized migrants" from elsewhere (about 3% each for Xhosa, Basotho and Zulu). Presumably the latter had simply learned better how to avoid the white man's justice.

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