FMCASH:
Will you be using determinant or indeterminant

It's more of determinate. The most important issue is that I don't do guess work. I spend reasonably well to make sure I diagnonize properly. I don't know any laboratory in Nigeria which can do it accurately. I have done my best to even send people who desperately ask ed me for some Nigerian laboratories, but I have realized that they are all flawed. It's same for human. It's why rich people go abroad for diagnosis and to pass through initial critical stage. Then, they return home for cheaper continuation of treatment after the critical stage is over. But if you put same equipment in the hands of Nigerian specialists, they perform excellent well, and even better than their counterparts abroad.

I know you asked me the question to be guided. But the truth is that I don't allow what seed sellers say influence my decision. RZ, BHN, East West, Technisem, efc do not all have me and my region in mind when they produced the cultivars they are choking me to buy. They only produce what they feel might help a collective large region which is from Nigeria running to West, East, and South Africa. That's too broad. But these manufacturers create cultivars for each small regions in their nations. So, I cannot rely on their marketers gimmicks. Therefore, I rely on scientific approach to know how to proceed. I might use three different cultivars on the same farm if you care to know. Or use same and fortify them differently. I know what I am looking for after getting diagnostics results, and I plan towards achieving it. Also, I do not joke with pilots. The story does not end with the test. Other procedures must be done accurately, and I believe I have explained everything in this thread.

I do not know how to go into details because it is unexplainable to local farmers. I don't know how to do guess work. And it's hard to explain the process and the cost. If the cost of doing tests is more than the cost of buying irrigation kits, why will I want to introduce it to local farmers? When they are nagging that irrigation is too expensive for them. But really, I don't understand why any right thinking farmer will rely on rain that successful farmers are running away from. Is it not funny? This is free water, I was unsuccessful until I ran away from it, then I became very succesfful. That free water is what others are running after. So, how can they be succesful? I don't know my bro. I keep wondering why they don't quit farming and find something else because they obviously cannot afford doing it. It's the truth. God will surely bless the work of our hands.


Modified:
From page 9 down to page 13, there are attacks from chemicals farmers and consultants who even engaged hackers to attack me. So, I wish to leave this thread as it is for now. They teach very annoying agro-practice which can spread cholera, and many infectious diseasses. I had to slam many of them to back off. Many of them are even c.urs.ed for killing innocent consumers of their chemical products. They are already cu.rs.ed without adding more to it.

If someone is not careful small scale farming will lead someone to poverty

Pistotita:


It's more of determinate. The most important issue is that I don't do guess work. I spend reasonably well to make sure I diagnonize properly. I don't know any laboratory in Nigeria which can do it accurately. I have done my best to even send people who desperately ask ed me for some Nigerian laboratories, but I have realized that they are all flawed. It's same for human. It's why rich people go abroad for diagnosis and to pass through initial critical stage. Then, they return home for cheaper continuation of treatment after the critical stage is over. But if you put same equipment in the hands of Nigerian specialists, they perform excellent well, and even better than their counterparts abroad.

I know you asked me the question to be guided. But the truth is that I don't allow what seed sellers say influence my decision. RZ, BHN, East West, Technisem, efc do not all have me and my region in mind when they produced the cultivars they are choking me to buy. They only produce what they feel might help a collective large region which is from Nigeria running to West, East, and South Africa. That's too broad. But these manufacturers create cultivars for each small regions in their nations. So, I cannot rely on their marketers gimmicks. Therefore, I rely on scientific approach to know how to proceed. I might use three different cultivars on the same farm if you care to know. Or use same and fortify them differently. I know what I am looking for after getting diagnostics results, and I plan towards achieving it. Also, I do not joke with pilots. The story does not end with the test. Other procedures must be done accurately, and I believe I have explained everything in this thread.

I do not know how to go into details because it is unexplainable to local farmers. I don't know how to do guess work. And it's hard to explain the process and the cost. If the cost of doing tests is more than the cost of buying irrigation kits, why will I want to introduce it to local farmers? When they are nagging that irrigation is too expensive for them. But really, I don't understand why any right thinking farmer will rely on rain that successful farmers are running away from. Is it not funny? This is free water, I was unsuccessful until I ran away from it, then I became very succesfful. That free water is what others are running after. So, how can they be succesful? I don't know my bro. I keep wondering why they don't quit farming and find something else because they obviously cannot afford doing it. It's the truth. God will surely bless the work of our hands.

FMCASH:
If someone is not careful small scale farming will lead someone to poverty

If you watch Asians, they work in groups in small farms. But the person who cu.rsed Africans did a good job. Everyone wants to do it by himself and get rich in 2 months with cucumber. But everything is zero over 100. Why? Africans will never be in Unity when they come together. There is a particular trend in all the groups I have organised: as soon as they noticed initial harvest, everyone started planning how to dash out and set up his. Then, the plan to hij.ack workers started, and one by one, they abandoned such projects because of selfish interests. But by the time they all tried it on their own with workers "stolen" from my projects, they got hooked. Shamelessly, they called me, the same person they de.stroyed his project to bail them all out. Poor people are the worst set of beings to do anything with. They are not poor because of small scale farming, but the evil in their heart make them poor and they still don't recognise it. "You even find them blowing serious grammar when arguments start". They talk like this at the top of their voices: "Do you know who I am?" I always ask them who they are to come under a group and not start big like Dangote. "Who dem be?"

It reminds me of Adekunle Gold who sang in his dialect (I had to get someone help me with the translation):

Enu o se, enu o se
It's not by mouth, it's not by mouth

Ariwo ko ni music oo
Music is not noise

Empty barrel lo ma n pariwo
Its an empty barrel that makes noise



Displaying pictures on nairaland is not succesful farming. Don't be fo.oled displaying pictures is noise making. If I am displaying to teach, it's something, but not to prove to anyone that I am who I am. What do I gain from it?

Let us follow good farming concepts, be willing to make sacrif.ices, not giving up when it's getting tougher, partnering with one another is inevitable, and be willing to drop cash. I still outsource many activities, and I always drop. Not to hold everything tight to my chest that no one should "chop" from me. lol. "Who wan die on farm? On top wetin?"

United we stand, divided we fall.

On point, I was still discussing with one of my Fb friend if we can get like mind not more than four people to pull of a big tomato project prior to may June.

Pistotita:


If you watch Asians, they work in groups in small farms. But the person who cu.rsed Africans did a good job. Everyone wants to do it by himself and get rich in 2 months with cucumber. But everything is zero over 100. Why? Africans will never be in Unity when they come together. There is a particular trend in all the groups I have organised: as soon as they noticed initial harvest, everyone started planning how to dash out and set up his. Then, the plan to hij.ack workers started, and one by one, they abandoned such projects because of selfish interests. But by the time they all tried it on their own with workers "stolen" from my projects, they got hooked. Shamelessly, they called me, the same person they de.stroyed his project to bail them all out. Poor people are the worst set of beings to do anything with. They are not poor because of small scale farming, but the evil in their heart make them poor and they still don't recognise it. "You even find them blowing serious grammar when arguments start". They talk like this at the top of their voices: "Do you know who I am?" I always ask them who they are to come under a group and not start big like Dangote. "Who dem be?"

It reminds me of Adekunle Gold who sang in his dialect (I had to get someone help me with the translation):

Enu o se, enu o se
It's not by mouth, it's not by mouth

Ariwo ko ni music oo
Music is not noise

Empty barrel lo ma n pariwo
Its an empty barrel that makes noise



Displaying pictures on nairaland is not succesful farming. Don't be fo.oled displaying pictures is noise making. If I am displaying to teach, it's something, but not to prove to anyone that I am who I am. What do I gain from it?

Let us follow good farming concepts, be willing to make sacrif.ices, not giving up when it's getting tougher, partnering with one another is inevitable, and be willing to drop cash. I still outsource many activities, and I always drop. Not to hold everything tight to my chest that no one should "chop" from me. lol. "Who wan die on farm? On top wetin?"

United we stand, divided we fall.

FMCASH:
On point, I was still discussing with one of my Fb friend if we can get like mind not more than four people to pull of a big tomato project prior to may June.

That will be a great exploit bro. There are tomato guys doing exploits on nairaland. If only these guys can come together to achieve something great.

Pistotita:
@OluchiDelly, FMCASH, Cocoboms, and Adeoye007
Please, what's the present price of tomato in your areas? Do you know the highest and lowest prices from April till date? I want to compare with some figures with me.

Ogb5, please permit me to ask you the prices of tomato from April till today in Edo and Delta. Please, could you here?

I ve nt bn to the tomato axis of the local market in my location, osun state. My tomatoes are just fruiting. How I wish @Adeoye007 could help out wt d price info cos his tomatoes should be hitting market by now, and I think he's also based in osun state.

Pistotita:

Abuja is always on my mind. Thanks for this hint. Cucumber's income is not near tomato's during this time. And cucumber farmers labor craz.ily. Tomatoes pruning is even easier. But it's funny how cheap it is in dry season. I wish I am strong enough to resume open field in 6 months time, and I pray to find favor with good tractor drivers and workers. But I am thinking of learning it myself cos these workers can frustrate one. 10 ha fully mulched will be the target from December to August next year. Thenafter, just find a cold country to spend fall and cool down before resuming again in November following year to expand further.

With d kind of work they do on ploughable land Sometimes I imagine if it's inexperienced or deliberate act. The 1st n 2nd ploughs wl still look very rough.

OluchiDelly:

I ve nt bn to the tomato axis of the local market in my location, osun state. My tomatoes are just fruiting. How I wish @Adeoye007 could help out wt d price info cos his tomatoes should be hitting market by now, and I think he's also based in osun state.

What is your experience? Any wilt challenges? Which cultivar do you have?

OluchiDelly:


With d kind of work they do on ploughable land Sometimes I imagine if it's inexperienced or deliberate act. The 1st n 2nd ploughs wl still look very rough.

I have lost count of projects artisans, farm workers, tractor drivers have destroyed. The only way out is that I import my tractor, and drive it myself. And that's the next stage when I decide to go into big farms business again. I cannot afford not to be highly efficient again. All these workers just want to collect money without working. The so called Farm Managers are waste resources on farms.

It's good we are discussing these issues.

OluchiDelly:


With d kind of work they do on ploughable land Sometimes I imagine if it's inexperienced or deliberate act. The 1st n 2nd ploughs wl still look very rough.

They are supposed to harrow. But most skip it, hence the roughness.

Pistotita:


What is your experience? Any wilt challenges? Which cultivar do you have.

It's a local cultivar that d farmers here plant andd markets in my area accept well, but nt d watery n sour type. Few wilts in areas where tractor did not chanel drainage well.

OluchiDelly:


It's a local cultivar that d farmers here plant andd markets in my area accept well, but nt d watery n sour type. Few wilts in areas where tractor did not chanel drainage well.

This man, tractor drivers "don pepper" your eyes ooo. I sw.ear, those people are not humans. They have stony hearts, and care only about themselves. Please, what's the name of this cultivar? I am putting together a collection of local breeds. This is another area of investigation I am doing. The act of researching is addictive and sweet. One just keeps going.

Pistotita:


This man, tractor drivers "don pepper" your eyes ooo. I sw.ear, those people are not humans. They have stony hearts, and care only about themselves. Please, what's the name of this cultivar? I am putting together a collection of local breeds. This is another area of investigation I am doing. The act of researching is addictive and sweet. One just keeps going.

I wl try n find out d name as I'm still very new in this location.

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abolaji62:
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Notes on Mile 12 vegetables sales

1. Most of the agents are dubious. It's advisable to rotate them. Don't get comfortable with one.
2. They always fight themselves in their associations - fighting over farmers. So, it's better you keep off if you want to investigate them very well, or you want yo use as many as possible.
3. Not advisable you take so called exotic products there. They don't even sell them well, and they still collect 10% from farmers
4. Mile 12 should be your last option, but first for marketing research sake.
5. Remission of Mile 12 sales is shorter than grocery stores. It can takes grocery stores 2 weeks or more to pay suppliers. It takes more if one is not the direct supllier.
6. Don't fall for mile 12 ads agents here. You may check the ones advertising on nairaland, but do not let anyone manipulate you. It is a free open market. Meet as many sales agents as possible.
7. You can actually be own agent if you have the strength and time to sell yourself. Just meet the chairman of the association of the section you want to operate in, and he/she will guide you. In such case, no paying of 10%, but payment of dues, fees and fines to the association is paramount. However, be ready to hustle in the sun there.
8. Try to move high volume to mile 12 so that you can cover logistics properly.
9. Sales in mile 12 is like stocks trading. Try to update yourself.
10. Market days are: Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays there. Study your product very well. Persinally, I avoid those days when moving vegetables there because there are tendencies of glut. But in many cases, that theory was rubbished when I was still doing slicing cucumber. I have made excellent sales on market days. If you have a big farm, and you have above 30 bags every sales, it is better to move sell on market days. Make sure you get your products there a night before the market days, or very early in the morning (4am -5am) on market days.

Research your area very well for opportunities better than mile 12. Those in Ogun in the middle of Lagos and Ibadan are at very good advantage. They can move to any market in Lagos, or Ibadan. Ibadan market is getting bigger these days, even exotic priducts. I have an ex worker who sells all his lettuce in Ibadan at very good prices.

Vegetables production is a wonderful business. The oportunities are too numerous. It depends on you. I have assisted many people, but the challenge is that our people are too self centered. When one calls them for tips or assistance after assisting thrm, that's when you see their true colors. And many more are still around till this day. I wonder if they will take all along to six feet below.

Notes on buying manuals for farming
1. You are wasting your time. Sellers aren't farmers.
2. Farmers might publish real books, but not e-manuals. And only smart ones can publish good books.
3. You will learn more from experienced farmers on amazon than any local farmer. The only assignment you have is the ability to interpretate what you read, and how to apply them in tropics.
4. Learn general farming principles before reading online research papers; otherwise, you get yourself extremely confused. I have made comments on posted research papers here, and I have neglected dangerous papers. Many are meant for professionals. In fact, you can get yourself injured or killed if you are not careful with advance research papers. And you msy land in trouble with the law if you make mistake with importation. There were periods I had reported to Alagbon (police Investigate center in Lagos), and to investigative centers at the airport because of materials moved in. Thank God I always do everything legally. Don't fall into what will send you to prison. This is why I always tell you guys to stay away from chemicals. Allow someone who knows about it to guide you. Such cannot be discussed on public forums. If you have money, there are chemicals I will give you and you will kill pathogens. What is downy mildew when I am on farm? Dem no born am well even in rainy season. A dey laugh in Swahili. But such practises are dangerous in the hands of ter.rible farmers. But when I tell you that soil preparation is the best way out, you better take it serious. If you don't have access to maure, it because you don't want to search for it. You may just start rearing animals yourself and downsize your vegetables. Restrategize. Stop copying everything posted online. Sit down and formulate what is good for you in accordance with the opportunities and threats of your farm locations.

Bless you all!

@pisotita,you a indeed a boss and a rare gem.
This so called E-farmers are dubious, many of whom haven't handle a hoe not to talk of owning a farmland.
Thanks for your encouragement and farming basics.

Can we pull this off?
15 fresh OND/HND/BSc graduates who can endure living on farm for a year contract. Let's see if we can rock Lagos/Ogun/Ibadan from November 2019 to August 2020 to till out gold via tomato. Application ends August 31. You need just to pay for 2 months feeding and accomodation. That's all. All other things will be provided.

Requirements:
1. Fresh Graduates (2018 - 2019)

2. Send me an article (3,000 words) on why you want to be a vegetable farmer.

Liftitupo:


I have replied you. The content of the 15 people you choose to take individually this year is exactly what I am doing. I saw the result with my eyes in my colleague's tomato farm the last time, so no one needs to tell me what to do. I appreciate your effort here too. I know you cannot take many people this year for the obvious reason which I agree with you. It is why I am happy with this post for young farmers who cannot afford much. Tomato is not easy from my experience and it is rewarding. I know you know many alternatives which are better than tomato and you give marketing tips. There are people who cannot afford even 30k who can be helped but are not recent graduates.

I am not saying anyone should not do what they want to do. I cannot bite more than I can chew, my brother. I have done so in the past and the results were disastrous. If they feel they can do it cheaper, there are threads where people don't use irrigation that they can learn the tricks there. As a matter of fact, this is the last time I am going to pilot or chat with people about vegetables. I have projects and life ahead of me too, and its why I took only 15 people this year. I did not want to do it before, but I changed my mind.

There is time for everything. When I volunteer my time, I do it wholeheartedly like I am paid. And I always give deadlines. As soon as it's over, I move on. I have renewed contracts (non paid jobs) many times too. A time to born, and a time to die. A time to give, and a time to take. I have given so much to the following regions: SW, SS, and SE in regards to veggie farming, but I know I have reaped zero. It is time to give to the North, and myself (That's is the region I started from, and found many opened people there. It is time to repay the region for who I am today. SW, SE, and SS will be very alright by God's grace. I gat my partners in the North already). And the time I should reap. In addition, I am convinced that what I have given in this thread is more than enough for anyone who is serious.

It is unfortunate majority cannot afford much, but what can I do? That will not make me lower my standard. Anyone who can use granules fertilizer on 1 ha should do so. I have done it too in the past. Anyone who wants to use manual knapsacks should do so too. Anyone who wants to draw water from 60ft deep well to irrigate 12,000 cucumber plants is free to do so. And anyone would is comfortable with carrying watering can should do so.

Like I said, I always volunteer my time no matter how busy I am. I started when I was a teenager. But people misuse FREE things. And some employers don't take people who volunteer their time serious many times. Such is life. I met the mayor of a powerful city during one of my exercises. I was shocked that the number 1 citizen of the popular city was in my team. I did not go in there for money, but I came out with something "much more better" than money. My point is that people only go where they will benefit, and not where they can contribute to. So, when they don't get, they leave unannouced and destroy everything there.


It is a choice to make. To build a vegetable business which gives weekly income, or to have one with inconsistent flow of cash and unreliable income. To have one that allows the owner to do some other activities, or warrants staying glued on the farm policing workers here and there. To have one that gives rest of mind even with auto powering systems, or to be a prayer warrior challenging God for rain intervention everytime. To create retailing opportunities for oneself, or to move from many miles away to sell in open markets. To work on less than a plot and recover N5 - 15 million used to set up in a year easily and have the business running consistent flow of cash, or to set up in a way one needs to hustle for new capital at the end of each farming cycle.

When there is will, there will always be a way. I cannot bring people together, but if I see people who are already united, I can consider working with them.

Pistotita:


I am not saying anyone should not do what they want to do. I cannot bite more than I can chew, my brother. I have done so in the past and the results were disastrous. If they feel they can do it cheaper, there are threads where people don't use irrigation that they can learn the tricks there. As a matter of fact, this is the last time I am going to pilot or chat with people about vegetables. I have projects and life ahead of me too, and its why I took only 15 people this year. I did not want to do it before, but I changed my mind.

There is time for everything. When I volunteer my time, I do it wholeheartedly like I am paid. And I always give deadlines. As soon as it's over, I move on. I have renewed contracts (non paid jobs) many times too. A time to born, and a time to die. A time to give, and a time to take. I have given so much to the following regions: SW, SS, and SE in regards to veggie farming, but I know I have reaped zero. It is time to give to the North, and myself (That's is the region I started from, and found many opened people there. It is time to repay the region for who I am today. SW, SE, and SS will be very alright by God's grace. I gat my partners in the North already). And the time I should reap. In addition, I am convinced that what I have given in this thread is more than enough for anyone who is serious.

It is unfortunate majority cannot afford much, but what can I do? That will not make me lower my standard. Anyone who can use granules fertilizer on 1 ha should do so. I have done it too in the past. Anyone who wants to use manual knapsacks should do so too. Anyone who wants to draw water from 60ft deep well to irrigate 12,000 cucumber plants is free to do so. And anyone would is comfortable with carrying watering can should do so.

Like I said, I always volunteer my time no matter how busy I am. I started when I was a teenager. But people misuse FREE things. And some employers don't take people who volunteer their time serious many times. Such is life. I met the mayor of a powerful city during one of my exercises. I was shocked that the number 1 citizen of the popular city was in my team. I did not go in there for money, but I came out with something "much more better" than money. My point is that people only go where they will benefit, and not where they can contribute to. So, when they don't get, they leave unannouced and destroy everything there.


It is a choice to make. To build a vegetable business which gives weekly income, or to have one with inconsistent flow of cash and unreliable income. To have one that allows the owner to do some other activities, or warrants staying glued on the farm policing workers here and there. To have one that gives rest of mind even with auto powering systems, or to be a prayer warrior challenging God for rain intervention everytime. To create retailing opportunities for oneself, or to move from many miles away to sell in open markets. To work on less than a plot and recover N5 - 15 million used to set up in a year easily and have the business running consistent flow of cash, or to set up in a way one needs to hustle for new capital at the end of each farming cycle.

When there is will, there will always be a way. I cannot bring people together, but if I see people who are already united, I can consider working with them.

Pistotita:
Why is everyone doing mainly cucumber?
Cucumber is very tough. I believe advance farmers should handle it. And the cost of producing it is high. Staking is tough, prunning is not easy. Trust your workers with prunning, and you may cry. Downey mildew is crazy. Yet, many people are doing It? And only less than 5% are successful. If you have never tried cucumber, and you jump into it, you'll land in hospital.

The pace is like Nicholas Anelka when he was fit, or let me say its pace is like Mbappe. Even tomato is like a child's play in comparison with cucumber. Tomato is tough, do not get me wrong, but cucumber is crazier, requires more water, more nutrients, more expensive to manage, and faster.

And most people always cultivate above what they can handle.

Why can't people think of mini farms? 1/4 to 1/2 plot for each crop, And cultivate 4 crops with progressive and continuous plan? Why do people just launch into cucumber without knowing what it takes? What stops farmers from having weekly supply of mini cucumber cultivars like 100kg to premium market @ N400 to N600 per kg? This is very ok to me. And then the same farmer can supply 200kg of sweet pepper @ N400 to N950 per kg weekly; 500 Cauliflower heads at N400 to N1,200 each every fortnight, can even be weekly; and weekly supply of 200kg eggplant at N150 to N400 per kg?

The above paragraph is how a smart farmer should think. And this is exactly what I developed recently after I resigned from 1 acre cucumber. Very relieving and easier to do.

Start up cost might be high as shading is necessarily to keep temperature low for some plants, staking are necessary for some, drip irrigation is a must for some, and I used hydroponics for some areas just to make life easier for me.

I still wonder why people always want to cultivate 2 ha of watermelon with rain. 10 ha of tomatoes with rain. It is just crazy. Managing 1 acre of Cucumber is crazy work if staking and prunning are adopted.

I mean, why are you all runing into cucumber only?

Good morning sir, thanks for sharing this kind of information to us sir,God will bless you. I did one plot of Cucumber at the end I failed, � I just went to farm this morning to clear some part and try 1/2 plot for now, I will be happy if you can put me through sir.

I love farming though am still a student of O. A. U studying Education and Economic, there is opportunities for us a student to farm in the school through an association. I have a plot of land already, I planted one plot of Cucumber and I failed, I want to plant half plot this time around, we are now in holiday period, I will be happy if you can give me an opportunity to learn from you during this holiday period sir.

Kudos to Seun, Dominique, Pavore9, and FarmTech who closed the thread of that boy who was about putting Agricultural section in trouble. I am sure he was high on the weed he is trying to grow and sell, and unaware of his actions. lol! Thanks, and God bless you all sirs/ma.

Hasib04:


Good morning sir, thanks for sharing this kind of information to us sir,God will bless you. I did one plot of Cucumber at the end I failed, � I just went to farm this morning to clear some part and try 1/2 plot for now, I will be happy if you can put me through sir.

Hmmm! You did not use the right cultivar, and you did not prepare your soil excellently.

Hasib04:
I love farming though am still a student of O. A. U studying Education and Economic, there is opportunities for us a student to farm in the school through an association. I have a plot of land already, I planted one plot of Cucumber and I failed, I want to plant half plot this time around, we are now in holiday period, I will be happy if you can give me an opportunity to learn from you during this holiday period sir.

You gat a lovely course bro/sis. Education is a wonderful course and it's combination with Economics will take you far. What a lovely combo in a great university.

Good decision to downsize to half a plot if you are the one managing it without any worker. I guess you have realised that you alone cannot handle 1 plot. lol. Most people learn the hard way.

My concern is that you have used the plot for cucumber, and cucurbits pathogens are in the soil already. Anyway, it is still doable, but if I were you, I would go for another crop. I'm a strict crop rotation gardener. I bend this rules only if I am not using soil. But it's ok.

You will surely make some money for yourself this holiday if you do it right. I prefer you use drip irrigation, but if you don't have, as long as you have water pump and hose, you are good to go if you can endure standing in the sun morning and evening irrigating whenever the soil is dry. I think you will irrigate less cos of rain. You just need to prepare to get some powerful fingicides. But you must follow the protocol strictly.

I have received your mail, and I have replied you. Bless you.

Pistotita:
Kudos to Seun, Dominique, Pavore9, and FarmTech who closed the thread of that boy who was about putting Agricultural section in trouble. I am sure he was high on the weed he is trying to grow and sell, and unaware of his actions. lol! Thanks, and God bless you all sirs/ma.




Hmmm! You did not use the right cultivar, and you did not prepare your soil excellently.



You gat a lovely course bro/sis. Education is a wonderful course and it's combination with Economics will take you far. What a lovely combo in a great university.

Good decision to downsize to half a plot if you are the one managing it without any worker. I guess you have realised that you alone cannot handle 1 plot. lol. Most people learn the hard way.

My concern is that you have used the plot for cucumber, and cucurbits pathogens are in the soil already. Anyway, it is still doable, but if I were you, I would go for another crop. I'm a strict crop rotation gardener. I bend this rules only if I am not using soil. But it's ok.

You will surely make some money for yourself this holiday if you do it right. I prefer you use drip irrigation, but if you don't have, as long as you have water pump and hose, you are good to go if you can endure standing in the sun morning and evening irrigating whenever the soil is dry. I think you will irrigate less cos of rain. You just need to prepare to get some powerful fingicides. But you must follow the protocol strictly.

I have received your mail, and I have replied you. Bless you.

I really appreciate you sir, God will bless you sir.

Soil Preparation

There is no day that I don't get minimum of 3 messages asking me to elaborate more on soil preparation. I will take it gradually. Take note of the following points:

1. Manure is a terrible material. At least use dry manure. I prefer composting, but my boys were also lazy. If you compost your materials very well, you will not regret it. Trust me. Never expose yourself to diseases. Manure kills gradually. Compost is what you need to use. Never use manure tea. You are killing yourself. Compost your manure first. Make sure it's cured before using. In fact, I almost started a project recently with manure because the boy was pushing it. Thank God it crashed.

2. Compost is not made only from dungs..You can mix different materials to make compost. It is just a lot of work..So, I also don't engage in it. But for gardening, of course I make my compost without manure cos I don't want any infection. And if using manure, I protect myself. Gloves, boots, nose guard, etc. And I sterilize my shovel every time after using it on manure. Dettol is not far from my reach.

3. H.Pylori
There are many terrible diseases in manure among which are: streptococcus, staphylococcus, h.pylori, etc. H.pylory - Ha! This disease is terrible. And you will never know you have it. If you have handled manure many times, you better run to the clinic to do test. I will share with you what you need to do. If you allow this bacteria to rattle you, hmmmmmm! Never listen to any doctor who tells you it is a normal disease in human. Which normal? You better run fast before you start having serious issues. Just wait, I will give you highlights, and I am sure you will start seeing these symptoms. 3 people I spoke with last week about it turned to be positive. All of the three. They have been battling with issues doctors call allergies. Skin diseases, athlete foot, bloating,constant belching after eating food, body itching, scrutum itching, vaginal itching, hair loss, headaches, migraine, unexplainable tiredness, etc. H.pylori causes many diseases gradually over a long period of time, and if one is unlucky, can cause cancer of the colon within 2 to 3 years. And I have seen a situation where a woman carried it from her childhood to 73 years. The woman had passed through h.ell before realising it was that stubborn thing. But how it did not get to cancer, only God knows. Go and meet real oncologist and check their reaction at the mention of h.pylori. Oncologists don't joke with that thing. Staphylococcus is also terrible. Ha! Staph. Both Staph and h.pylori render men useless by giving them erectile dysfunction. Thst is sure. No more morning erection. Take it from me. If you have these symptoms, you better run to take stool and serum tests. You better do it now. I know why I keep shouting about the way farmers handle manure carelessly. I have promised myself to make my staff take the test as soon as they get settled on my farm when I return to open field. Pylori is straight journey to colon cancer. No two ways about it. Other symptoms: uncurable eczema, yeast infection, dandruff, bone thinning. In fact, anything can happen to you. Why? Because it causes autoimmune diseases. It triggers the acid in your body to start fighting your own body. It defends itself by secreting alkaline when your body sends acids to kill it. But instead of killing it, acid starts damaging many things in your body. You will just be getting all the symptoms I have mentioned and you are dying gradually. Constipation and diarrhea are terrible symptoms. If you are having these two constantly, you better run to the clinic. Over 98% farmers who have drunk bad water on farm, exposed themselves to manure, and handled dirty stuff are infected in Nigeria. Go check yourself. Ulcer is the nearest bustop to h.pylori.

4. Instead of using manure, I will show you other materials you can use if you have the time.

Land preparation takes me minimum of 1 month. At times 2. It is why I always use mulch, and my mulch are always thick. I have a mulch that I have been using for 5 years now. I don't use those cheap mulch. My mulch are thick like greenhouse poly cover. If you doubt me, I can still sell you one or two bundles. Then return here to say I am a liar if you don't get the quality I have mentioned. My next step is to start using wood to guide my beds so that they can be permanent beds. This way, I can bombard my land with compost just only one time, and leave it like that. As long as my microbes are there and I keep irrigating, that land is as fertile as the land of Cannan. (sorry that I always use manure in place of compost. Anywhere you read manure in my posts, I meant compost).

Please, if you know about composting, which materials are more available that we can use as a template here?

Next post will be using free Abattoir manure. I am sure you can load 1,000 tons from abattoirs. I just don't have the mind to do this. I did it once, and I told myself never again. lolz.

Note
If you prepare soil very well, you observe crop rotation, and you don't abuse Ridomil and jam jam forces, redforce, bluforce, greenforce, etc, you will not have downy mildew even now that's it's raining. You can manage it. It took me years to understand downy mildew. That's a very simple disease to arrest even in rainy season. I have told you farmers. I said it then that Monalisa is not for rainy season, and you saw the result. It is only a master of cucumber who can cultivate monalisa during rainy season, and not beginners, or amateurs, or laughable local champions. Again, I am telling you that your over zealous attitude and desperation to use chemicals are the reasons mildews are showing you pepper. If you like listen, if you like keep using chemicals recklessly. Your story will never change.

My thoughts about various manure/compost options used presently by farmers on Nairaland

I have been reading many styles of applying organic matters to soils on nairaland, and it saddens me. I will tell you both good and bad options. Home gardeners, please take note. If you have a compound and you are not utilizing it, you are a big loser. I keep saying it that you can train yourself at home if you research very well. I can see people whonare critizing me always using my methods, and for that I am pleased. I dont mind it at all. If this thread turns to your agric bible, it's not bad You know yourselves, the only issue is that do it without criticising the person you learned it from. You criticize but you keep going back to the words you criticize. You know yourselves. Talk His Cheap kind of people. I will be very glad everyone starts writing methods that they adopted from my thread. It's the ultimate goal. But when you come to my thread daily, and younlearn, but you come openly to attack me.....hmmm! Or you pretend like you just know those things, and you start using them against my thoughts, you are a joke. What you think you have known is just a peanut. I still consult daily and learn from people, even from people who ask me to teach them. Some end up teaching me. lolz. It always happen on nairaland that people intentionally attack unjustly because they feel they are in competition with others. They are even sending hacking messages to my email address. I may change my email very soon. If these things don't happen, I will not talk about them..They are wicked to the extent of making nairaland hard to use. My prayer goes to Seun daily. What he is facing in the hands of these hackers is too much. Ha ba! I keep him in my prayers daily. And at times, I feel for his super moderators, but we just all criticize them unjustly many times. I am beginning to see more daily. lolz.

In my opinion, if you go under an experienced modern farmer, it makes life easy. If you need to pay, do so. Paying N200,000 for a standard guidance is not too much if you can afford it. Anyway, I don't collect fee for normal day to day guidance. And when it starts getting very deep, and I have no time, I always direct people to what to check out. I always write these things so you do not get disappointed with me. Personally, I don't spoon feed. I make you think deeply, and you start thinking like farmers. Many people don't like it, but those who don't find my questions irritating have really benefitted. Infact, all of them told me later that they just decided to endure it, and was like it appeared they know absolutely nothing with my questions. They ask me something, and I reply with a question. Under my question lies the answers they needed. It is my most powerful style if teaching. It has helped me shape many people. You must be a modern farmer, and be able to reason like a local farmer who can improvise without engaging in health threatened activities.

1. Compost almost everything you use. I will share options you may not compost.

2. Composting kills all pathogens

3. Composting kills all weed. Use Abattoir manure. Farmers don't use it cos of weed in it. But composting it makes it perfect.

4. You can compost manure in max of 25 days. You don't need 6 months like you were thought by old school farmers.


Poultry Manure
Go and check all poultry thread on nairaland and see how they all shout about infection. High densely population of chickens is mass disease transfer from one bird to the other. It is not a joke. This is the most praised manure on naraland. You are extremely reckless if you use your hands on poultry manure without wearing gloves. And you are 10 times very reckless and a heartless farm owner if you start asking your workers to dilute chicken poo with water, or you open a pit or concrete pit to dilute those rubbish and health damaging procedures. Ha ba! You no go school? It beats my imagination how very stup.id followers adopt these life threatening methods. Are you are zo.mbies? No apology to anyone. Anyone who engages in such in this 2019 is a failure. You should not live in our era at all. You are a disgrace, and I don't have apology for such. How can you be teaching ma.dness on nairaland. And the followers are zombies. Simple as ABC. Did you not attend primary/elementary school? Did you not take health Science as a subject? Yet poverty has turned brains upside down. Christ!!!

Go and read poultry threads and start joking down the diseases farners try to prevent. And in your own mind, mixing water which ferments and multiply the pathogens in a short period of time is what you should do. You are not well at all. I am coming very hard on these set of people. Are you ok? People abroad reading these rubbish and nonsense can never invest in you. Take it or leave it. Are you well at all? And the so called educated followers cannot address the issue. What is wrong with Nigerians? Activities your children do, and you suppose take them aside and lecture them the dangers therein are what you are doing. Are you ok? You give birth to children, and all in the name of feeding them, you go and get infected on farm because you are a common man. And you infected your family with terrible diseases. They may not show now, and when they show damages have been done that doctors can just give you drugs to spent the remaining days of your life with less pain. Don't you see around what the world is turning to? Yet, you are going to farm to kill yourself. It's better you just take rope and hang yourself than that suicidal manure application activities I read here. Once we were also pushed to such crazy methods, but I used my brain to correct that nonsense. My compost area is always on farm. At least 1 month before bed making, composting is going on. I did not feel compelled to address the issue, and I always use manure in place of compost. But when I started reading ma.dness, I know it's time to address such stupi.dity.

Pig/Cow Manure
Read poultry above. Pig is same as poultry. Feel free to use cow dung after composting.

Goat/Sheep
You can hardly get these animals manure because they are mostly free ranging around. lolz. But if you manage to get them, treat them like poultry also. However, since they are usually not densely populated managed, diseases in them are not as poultry and pigs. Still compost them. But I have heard of farmers packing goat manure because it's in granules form with shovel inside vertical bags. Just be extremely careful with this method. And I advise farmers to use manure they know are from healthy animals. If I were you, I wouldn't try it.

Rabbit
This is my favorite manure for home gardeners. The urine and poo are good sources of nutrients. I recommend this for home gardeners. Go and get rabbits to make life easy for you. Feed your rabbits with mostly grasses..Leave out those costly and bad commercial feed. If you take care of your rabbits, pathogens in the dung and urine will be less. Well, you can still manage to use them, but if I were you, I would have a special method to cook the urine if you want to store, or dump the urine (mix very well with water) immediately in the plants roots. Please do not spray unsterilized urine or poo cos you are endangering your life and that of your family. Pathogens are sprayed in the air through this method, and you and your household are not safe. Since both urine and poo are cold manure, you can use immediately on your plants, but be exttemely careful. You only compost because of killing pathogens in the poo, and not because of fear of burning your plants. If you know how to ferment, do it after boiling urine, and store for long. You may even add microorganisms to it. Use strains that you know which can thrive in liquid and aren't pathogens for human yo innoculate urine. There are strains that will not thrive in liquid. You should just compost the poo too. Or use shovel to quickly dump it in your garden. No need to start boiling any poo in my opinion, but if you do, kindly be extremely careful. And use the right microbe to remove foul smell. LAB is a good option for such purpose.

Other animals
Please compost all especially flesh eating animals.

We will discuss commercial and home gardening composting methods soon.

Keep yourself far away from infection. Stay safe and God will answer all our prayers. Amen!

Good day sir... Nice and wonderful contents you've got here, I have been following, reading and learning silently and I must say, I have gained alot from all your threads and posts. Thanks alot and God bless.

I also grow on a very small scale (less than a plot in my backyard), have been doing this for a while now to replace my monthly "allowee" since I finished service in 2017 but the output is nothing compared to what you've pulled out; It has not been easy, I must say.

I'm gradually unlearning my regular old style and learning and applying some of the things I read here. Will be glad if you can naked those your secrete microbes to me, will be glad to learn that too.

I'm quoting this particular post because, I have a friend who also grows vegetables (Majorly Cucumber) and he does almost all the work himself, he has been down for a while now, cucumber have knocked him down. He complains alot about how he is stressed out, sometimes he do say he is feeling pains in his spine, he is having headache, he cant bend down his head to work and bla bla bla. He might have been infested with the H.Pylori you mentioned because he is experiencing most of these symptoms like constipation, body wekness, headaches and skin disease like eczema that comes and go every now and then after treatments and some other things he talked about that I cannot understand or explain.

He has gone to the hospital and according to him, the doctor asked him to do a Malaria test which turn out positive and was given drugs but symptoms still persists.

One just have to be careful handling manure and chemicals to avoid stories that touches.

Please, what advice do you have for my friend on this...?

Thank you for your articles once more. Peace...!

Pistotita:
Soil Preparation

There is no day that I don't get minimum of 3 messages asking me to elaborate more on soil preparation. I will take it gradually. Take note of the following points:

1. Manure is a terrible material. At least use dry manure. I prefer composting, but my boys were also lazy. If you compost your materials very well, you will not regret it. Trust me. Never expose yourself to diseases. Manure kills gradually. Compost is what you need to use. Never use manure tea. You are killing yourself. Compost your manure first. Make sure it's cured before using. In fact, I almost started a project recently with manure because the boy was pushing it. Thank God it crashed.

2. Compost is not made only from dungs..You can mix different materials to make compost. It is just a lot of work..So, I also don't engage in it. But for gardening, of course I make my compost without manure cos I don't want any infection. And if using manure, I protect myself. Gloves, boots, nose guard, etc. And I sterilize my shovel every time after using it on manure. Dettol is not far from my reach.

3. H.Pylori
There are many terrible diseases in manure among which are: streptococcus, staphylococcus, h.pylori, etc. H.pylory - Ha! This disease is terrible. And you will never know you have it. If you have handled manure many times, you better run to the clinic to do test. I will share with you what you need to do. If you allow this bacteria to rattle you, hmmmmmm! Never listen to any doctor who tells you it is a normal disease in human. Which normal? You better run fast before you start having serious issues. Just wait, I will give you highlights, and I am sure you will start seeing these symptoms. 3 people I spoke with last week about it turned to be positive. All of the three. They have been battling with issues doctors call allergies. Skin diseases, athlete foot, bloating,constant belching after eating food, body itching, scrutum itching, vaginal itching, hair loss, headaches, migraine, unexplainable tiredness, etc. H.pylori causes many diseases gradually over a long period of time, and if one is unlucky, can cause cancer of the colon within 2 to 3 years. And I have seen a situation where a woman carried it from her childhood to 73 years. The woman had passed through h.ell before realising it was that stubborn thing. But how it did not get to cancer, only God knows. Go and meet real oncologist and check their reaction at the mention of h.pylori. Oncologists don't joke with that thing. Staphylococcus is also terrible. Ha! Staph. Both Staph and h.pylori render men useless by giving them erectile dysfunction. Thst is sure. No more morning erection. Take it from me. If you have these symptoms, you better run to take stool and serum tests. You better do it now. I know why I keep shouting about the way farmers handle manure carelessly. I have promised myself to make my staff take the test as soon as they get settled on my farm when I return to open field. Pylori is straight journey to colon cancer. No two ways about it. Other symptoms: uncurable eczema, yeast infection, dandruff, bone thinning. In fact, anything can happen to you. Why? Because it causes autoimmune diseases. It triggers the acid in your body to start fighting your own body. It defends itself by secreting alkaline when your body sends acids to kill it. But instead of killing it, acid starts damaging many things in your body. You will just be getting all the symptoms I have mentioned and you are dying gradually. Constipation and diarrhea are terrible symptoms. If you are having these two constantly, you better run to the clinic. Over 98% farmers who have drunk bad water on farm, exposed themselves to manure, and handled dirty stuff are infected in Nigeria. Go check yourself. Ulcer is the nearest bustop to h.pylori.

4. Instead of using manure, I will show you other materials you can use if you have the time.

Land preparation takes me minimum of 1 month. At times 2. It is why I always use mulch, and my mulch are always thick. I have a mulch that I have been using for 5 years now. I don't use those cheap mulch. My mulch are thick like greenhouse poly cover. If you doubt me, I can still sell you one or two bundles. Then return here to say I am a liar if you don't get the quality I have mentioned. My next step is to start using wood to guide my beds so that they can be permanent beds. This way, I can bombard my land with compost just only one time, and leave it like that. As long as my microbes are there and I keep irrigating, that land is as fertile as the land of Cannan. (sorry that I always use manure in place of compost. Anywhere you read manure in my posts, I meant compost).

Please, if you know about composting, which materials are more available that we can use as a template here?

Next post will be using free Abattoir manure. I am sure you can load 1,000 tons from abattoirs. I just don't have the mind to do this. I did it once, and I told myself never again. lolz.

Note
If you prepare soil very well, you observe crop rotation, and you don't abuse Ridomil and jam jam forces, redforce, bluforce, greenforce, etc, you will not have downy mildew even now that's it's raining. You can manage it. It took me years to understand downy mildew. That's a very simple disease to arrest even in rainy season. I have told you farmers. I said it then that Monalisa is not for rainy season, and you saw the result. It is only a master of cucumber who can cultivate monalisa during rainy season, and not beginners, or amateurs, or laughable local champions. Again, I am telling you that your over zealous attitude and desperation to use chemicals are the reasons mildews are showing you pepper. If you like listen, if you like keep using chemicals recklessly. Your story will never change.

Sir, I believe you can pass your message/info without attacking/insulting people. It is so unnecessary. Coming hard on ppl does not = attack/insult. D info isn't going to be made more/less powerful by indirectly attacking/insulting people on your thread. It is what it is.
Those who have ears to hear would hear regardless of how you present it.

funsoul:
Sir, I believe you can pass your message/info without attacking/insulting people. It is so unnecessary. Coming hard on ppl does not = attack/insult. D info isn't going to be made more/less powerful by indirectly attacking/insulting people on your thread. It is what it is.
Those who have ears to hear would hear regardless of how you present it.

One advice for you sir: Leave my thread if you are uncomfortable with my approach. If you know those who will listen will listen no matter the presentation, then, you should be less concerned with my approach. Just leave. Apparently, you don't understand what epidemic means. May God grant us wisdom. Some of us try to correct mass death on time, but in the name of "mind your business", the wicked people kill many. I will not wait till we are wiped off. Go and check Internet and see the % of Nigerians carrying h.pylori. If we stop shaking them in public, they say we are proud. Let me do what is needed. If curses are needed to address it, we will rain curses on them.

I am sure you care less about it. If you have a loved one suffering cancer, this rubbish you typed, you will never.

Please, find your way out of my thread. If you don't like it, leave.

Microbes are as dangerous as H.Pylori, Staph, Ecoli, Strep, etc

RealChris:
Good day sir... Nice and wonderful contents you've got here, I have been following, reading and learning silently and I must say, I have gained alot from all your threads and posts. Thanks alot and God bless.

I also grow on a very small scale (less than a plot in my backyard), have been doing this for a while now to replace my monthly "allowee" since I finished service in 2017 but the output is nothing compared to what you've pulled out; It has not been easy, I must say.

I'm gradually unlearning my regular old style and learning and applying some of the things I read here. Will be glad if you can naked those your secrete microbes to me, will be glad to learn that too.

Believe me, I want to teach microbes, but I cannot. H.pylori, staphylococcus, streptococcus, ecoli, ebola, etc are all microbes too. What we do is that we look at the strains in the soil, and put new strains that can eat the ones in the soil affecting your crop. And the new ones will not damage your crops, but it does not mean they cannot damage you. There are strains I can never use. Sir, E-coli is in our stomach, but the kind of strain there is not as bad as the one in some soil (though, I'm not sure). And again, the one in our stomach must not exceed the range it should be. If ordinary malaria attacks you, and your immune system is low, and you use one powerful drug and it eradicate the microbe that is regulating it, or the areas regulating the Ecoli in you body, "you don enter big problem". No doctor can detect it easily because they aren't trained to treat it. Except infectious diseases specialists and oncologists that can solve the issue. But they are the ones we see last after we have almost been defeated. That is when it is almost too late, when cancer has already entered.

For this reason, I don't teach microbes, hormones and chemicals. And it's the reason I don't buy those organic products from Asia. I will share the secrets of those organic sprays people are using. See, I have tried my best to use styles to tell people the dangers, but Nigerians are stu.bborn human beings. It's when they see we are dying mercilessly that they try to change. If Ebola is not an instant mass killer, do you think Nigerians would care? Of course not. H.pylori is as deadly as Ebola. Staph is damn wicked. I can start mentioning agricultural microorganism strains here, but my readers will definitely abuse it. That's epidemic. These ones that abuse chemicals? My brother, I study who I give such to. I don't release it anyhow. All those organic sprays should be banned totally. If I share the secret of those organic sprays, you will never buy from China, Malaysia, Singapore, or Thailand. Even from the US, you will not try amazon and ebay. I tell you. I am not just attacking these products for the fun. I know what I am saying. I will write about the organic sprays very soon.

I'm quoting this particular post because, I have a friend who also grows vegetables (Majorly Cucumber) and he does almost all the work himself, he has been down for a while now, cucumber have knocked him down. He complains alot about how he is stressed out, sometimes he do say he is feeling pains in his spine, he is having headache, he cant bend down his head to work and bla bla bla. He might have been infested with the H.Pylori you mentioned because he is experiencing most of these symptoms like constipation, body wekness, headaches and skin disease like eczema that comes and go every now and then after treatments and some other things he talked about that I cannot understand or explain.

He has gone to the hospital and according to him, the doctor asked him to do a Malaria test which turn out positive and was given drugs but symptoms still persists.

One just have to be careful handling manure and chemicals to avoid stories that touches.

Please, what advice do you have for my friend on this...?

Thank you for your articles once more. Peace...!

The Reward of Negligence and Carelessness on Farm

1. Cucumber is a tough crop if you are staking. It is very easy inside a greenhouse, and with higher yield. It last longer too. So, you may have just 2,000 plants inside a greenhouse, and you continue harvesting for 4 to 6 months. But outside, you will be tempted to do 10,000 plants with 2 workers. And you will face so many challenges. Sure, you can make it, but it is not advisable to do it again and again. Pick something else, use that time to relax your mind. Even it is not a high profitable crop. It will ease tension on you, and also reduce pests and diseases on your soil. I had to go learn very simple crops at the end of my time on open field. My strategy is to open with cucumber to recover initial start up cost fast. And gradually, I move into other crops. This is Strategic Vegetable Production for making High Profit

2. Constipation
Ha! I am not scaring you bro. But at the mention of constipation and diarrhea, run run run! That is the real symptoms that there is fire on the mountain. It means, your stomach is gone. Your gut flora is bad. That is the simple truth. And doctors will be treating symptoms. Let me educate you further sir, your friend is very close to having hemorrhoids. And the next thing is to start using thick concoction which will cause more damages. This kills gradually till a major threatening pathology happens. Yet most doctors (not all) treat only symptoms. Lol. The real cause, they don't usually know. They also preach treating the root of problems and not symptoms, but they don't know how to get the real root of the problems. Of course at the stage that damage is badly done, symtoms and threatening pathologies must be treated with surgery, antibiotics, or special procedures. But after that, they need to still treat the hidden root. Unfortunately, it is always left and another round of trouble starts in a very short period of time. This is why we are having chronic diseases, or what is called multiple pathologies. May we get the necessary knowledge at the right time and apply wisdom in Jesus' name.

Pains in the spine
It's either there is bone infection, or the abuse on your friend's body on the farm.

My brother, your friend needs to stay of open field farming for at least 1 year to recover well if he can treat himself.

One million naira, at least is needed to really treat terrible diseases like H.pylori

I am not scaring you, but telling you the real truth. Let me explain. When you have any of these diseases, and you take anibiotics, of course it will work if you had not abused antibiotics. But the side effect is that it will clear off the good bacteria in your body that regulate themselves. And some opportunists will come up, like Ecoli, yeast, and fungi infection. That friend of your who is having eczema and rashes is having yeast and fungi problems. And they are killing him gradually.

You must treat yourself very well. You must go for many tests which I cannot start listing here. But there here specialists hospitals in abroad that do it. I have not seen one here in Nigeria that has the facility to test everything. And mostly done with stool, and at times serum test. You must follow the instruction on taking samples. You first pay for DHL or any good courier service to deliver the kits, and then, pay to move the samples to the lab. They look for all pathogens - bacteria, yeast, fungi, parasites in your body. Then, they check all your glands. They check the level of all the good and bad bacteria in your body too. Also, it is advisable to do Food Allergy Test so you can avoid them during the period you are treating yourself. This is the only way out that I know. Otherwise, you are wasting your time. And I know you cannot order the kits by yourself, but by medical practitioners who know about them. But how do you convince your doctor that you need it? Then you repeat the test like 4 weeks after treating yourself. If there are still pathogen, you take the recommended herbs or antibiotics again. As doon as everything is cleared, repeat again like 6 months later to put your mind at rest that every pathogen is gone out of your system. Lol.

At this stage in Nigeria, it is advisable that everyone does it. Everyone in my family is doing it. Infact, as soon as you take h.pylori blood and serum test and either comes out positive, hahahhha! Start running. Do not ever treat only h.pylori alone. There are hidden ones.

Poultry, Piggery, Pesticides etc
Antibiotics are ok for medical purpose, but the abuse is bad. It will not work for you again. If you love yourself, quit buying eggs, chicken, pigs, etc that are grown with antibiotics and hormones. You feed on them through vegetables sprayed with pesticides, and chicken you buy. And they start wiping off the good stuff in your body gradually. When you need antibiotics, they will not work for you anymore.

Yeah! There should be withdrawal period for these products when using them, but better not to eat anything made with them. But how can we refrain from such at this stage of our life with chemicals everywhere? Better you start growing your organic food.

The importance of Diet
This is the major area everyone must concentrate on. If you don't have money for the comprehensive test, it will not kill you right now. Just treat the infections that you have. You may not be able to clear them. Infact I doubt if you will be able to clear h.pylori and staph without going for the tests. You cant. They will just relieve you for sometime, and return again. So, change your diet. Avoid chemical food. Leave out food you are allergic to. There is a formular for it, but you can check Paleo diet if you can follow it. There are debates on it, but from the testimonies I have heard, it helps a lot. Learn food fermentation. The same way we ferment for organic farming is how you need to ferment your food. Dump all soy products for now.

Garri Ijebu, Fufu, Elubo (Amala)
You can never get It wrong with these food. Why? They are all fermented. Yam and Sweet potato are good. Learn the kind of vegetable oil to avoid. Learn the diary you must avoid. I don't want to go into it here cos this is Agric section. Most likely, I need to open a thread in the Health Section to talk about it in details.

My brother, I am not trying to scare your friend. Tell him to start runing. Start running. Move into your farm and be strategic how you do things when you are relieved. Of cos not healed. But focus now on getting relieved, and improve your diet. Save money, and go for proper tests later.

Inflammation
You will struggle to get cured if your organs and tissues are inflamed because pathogens hide under them. So, reduce inflammation drastically with good diet and by avoiding chemical food, antibiotic treated diary products. Then, when you go for tests, the herbs or antibiotics prescribed can work very well for you. But if you are in serious pain now, quickly treat the symptoms you are having.

After clearing infections, you start with restoring good bacteria in your gut again. Don't just go for any supplement, but allow the tests tell you what to use. This is when you start hearing about probiotics and pre biotics. While probiotics and prebiotics help to put good bacteria in you, antibiotics kill them. But instead of people to learn the good ones, they will not because they are expensive here. lol. But our government is an unserious one. The way they allow antibiotics purchased over counter in Nigeria baffles me till date. And it's so cheap here. With N20,000, one can go for good triple therapy brands in Nigeria. And even N5,000 for cheap ones. Move to the US or UK and ask how much hospitals take for administering such therapy. Also, avoid Antacids. This is why ulcer patients are not cured. Also reduce sugar because that's the food for diseases.

I pray speedy recovery for your friend. The money he didn't want to spend when he started farming is what he will eventually spend on his health, or he will just keep living miserably in pains. There is no other way around it now that I know that I know except what I have posted here. Local herbs cannot save such person. However, let him thank his God if it is not yet cancer. Within 1 to 2 years, I believe total healing can be achieved. 3 months for complete change of diet to reduce inflammation and flush out toxins, 3 - 6 months for eradication of infections (diet continues), 20 months for adding good bacteria to the body and healing of bad tissues and organs. If you are obessed or underweight, check yourself very well.

Detoxification Program
Don't waste your money on those detoxification programs around. Aim at restoring your body to the way it suppose to be so that it can detox itself naturally. But you can just detox while using antibiotics to quickly remove toxins released, especially when treating h.pylori and staph. These two release toxins rapidly and it's why they destroy several parts of the body. Never joke with these ba.stards. If I am going to detox myself, it's going to be with only water for a short period of time. I will not add another toxin to my body in the name of buying super detox kits. Never!

Water
Stop drinking public tap water or sachet water popularly known as "pure water" without filtering further. Well, I recommend Reverse Osmosis kits. But you can get regular filter to start with. But really, go and buy Reverse Osmosis kit. Now, you understand why 50 - 90% Nigerians are h.pylori carriers. And can be spread by touching, kissing, through sex, through sharing of cutleries, etc. Tell me why I should not be mad with those chemical people? We are suppose to use nairaland to better our lives and not to kill ourselves. If you have these diseases, I am not save too. H.pylori is an epidemic in Nigeria. I know Nigerians like shaking hands like 30 times daily, and I am always scared these days. So, I carry around antiseptic spirit (hand wash).


Note
When I talk to people privately, I am not like this. I respect people so much. You may just notice I don't agree with you, but I am a very polite person. But this is a public forum. The strategy to use online for Nigeria is called e-hammering.

[quote author=Pistotita post=81016312]My thoughts about various manure/compost options used presently by farmers on Nairaland

It's been ages bro,(it's the Arka Rakshak seeds guy) I salute you on the good job you've been doing on this platform. I've been meaning to ask your opinion about "KNF"? Do you think it will work in Nigeria?

@Delgi, oh bro!

Yeah! How is life? Tried quoting you, but not able.

I have tried many styles from Korea to Japan to Thailand, and I found that it is the same concept. But if you check the Americans, (God bless the USA), scientists there split things into pieces. And I think it is because there are regulations there. But those Asians scientists too code things. I used to be angry with them that they are secretive, but any more. They are just protecting themselves because they know that as soon as they release the real information, farmers and citizens will abuse it. But in the US, who born you well to abuse it? I think it is why Donald Trump is trying to fight everything to put back in the old place it belongs since many thimgs also went wrong under the Democratics. But his style is selfish in my opinion. Anyway, that's not the main issue.

I will not mention the ingredients in any system, but I am sure you will understand everything I write here. I frown more with how they produce their microorganisms. I don't want to mention the name because people will rush into it. I have made it myself in the past, and I taught one of my workers, but 2 years after, I heard he felt terribly sick to the point of death. I rushed there, and moved him to clinic. Though, I did not know what I know today at that time. And I questioned him very well, and realised he failed to protect himself very well. I quickly called the attention of the doctor, and told him specific infections to check. The doctor was shocked when the result came out, and told the guy that he couldn't have guessed what was wrong with him if I had not talked to him. The doctor called me later to really thank me. And my worker learned his lesson in a bitter way. Only him could say what he passed through. Infact, I phoned him last week and I asked him specific questions, and he was complaining about many symptoms. Yeah. The doctor treated only symptoms at the same, and the damages are on. I told him to not panic that I will send him money to come to my house. He is very close to me. My plan is to lecture him, and tell him to double his hustle by opening an additional area of garden to raise money for his treatment. I dont mind supporting him financially. I know he will surely do it because he knew what he went through. He has to be taking to a specialist and nutritionist who will assist him. I'm sure his monthly expenses will run to N50,000 monthly on food and supplements till he is able to eradicate all. And the funny issue is that he will never want to stop living such good life back to eating junks. It's good to take care of ourselves.

My brother, they tell you to go pick materials for microbes where they mentioned. Hmmmm! I know it is the good, the beautiful, the bad, and the ugly that will be picked. Of course, they may work on your plants, but you don't know the strains you pick. It is extremely dangerous in my opinion. And they call it many name to code it. You here EM. What is EM? Na dem sabi ooo. So, the real stuff in it are invisible? Ecoli is there for sure. And if dangerous pathogens are there, just know that one is in trouble.


Please, read my thread on the religious section. We are gods with science. Science is ma.dddd. I did not know myself that science can achieve it fast. Yesterday's front page on nairaland contained a nice article. Scientists have detected for some time the gene responsible for aging. So, they are saying that by 2040, it is very likely we will not die of old age again. Old age will be regarded as a form of disease. Lol. Hahahhaha. We will only die by accidents only. No more old age. They know the gene responsible, and they have got the way to make it re-create or repair itself. What is my point here. The secret is Isolation . They went true several trials to isolate many things until they got it.

The same principle of isolation is what I use for farming. I don't culture everything. I go for specific strains. I know exactly what I am using. On sprays, I put strains that I know cannot harm me. I want to spray in the air what will not kill me, and at the same time kill the stuff in the air. There are some that are even good that must not be in the air, but are enclosed in capsules to use in soil. It's a deep area. No doubt it works, but be very careful with them. I don't have the mind to adopt such things when I saw the negative effect.

What they claim is that fermentation kills bad pathogens but leaves good ones. Says who? When you collect what you don't know about, how can you tell fermentation kills them? I laugh in Swahili. This is the reason, practising such in the US is a serious case. I don't know if I have mentioned it. Hawaii is a colony of the US, but it is special for tropical farming. You dear not import insects, wroms, or foreign unknown microbes from other states in the US to Hawaii. Not importation from abroad sir, but from another state in the US to Hawaii. It's $50,000 fine, or some years in jail.

If only if they teach isolation, and state specifically microbes that aren't dangerous. Please, I beg my readers not to mention any strain here, contact me directly on any strain that you know and you want to check . I don't want to even mention any strain here at all. Cos I don't know who is reading. Gardeners and farners don't always take precaution. So, I will never respond to any strain mentioned here.

So, this is the reason I frown at such method. It is why I also don't use anything organic spray. Never! I will still write about it. Importers themselves don't know the dangers there. But it's like I am spoiling their businesses. I have seen the damages done by these tiny things in the laboratory. I am thinking of returning to medical college to read medicine all over to be a doctor, and then move into genetics myself. I am still looking at the possibility. Because, I am limited in many things I want to research.

If you have to use it, please protect yourself very well. Make sure you use mulch to cover your soil. No mulch, please, no microbes. Anything that falls on the ground of your farm must be washed and rewashed. What you did is to increase exponentially all the good, the bad, the beautiful, and the ugly, on your farm. Also, do not let Dettol be far from you. Or hydrogen peroxide with 99% ethanol to clean your hands before taking proper bath with dettol.

Organic farming has revolved too.