Maximus69:


Do you see what i mean?
Nobody forced you when you publicly agreed that you're worshiping the same God with all the other religious groups claiming Christians.
Now you're putting words to me regarding well established religious organizations who aren't complying with the rules of OUR OWN organization!

Well whatever you say is your own words NOT mine.

I've presented our believes publicly that 'anyone not complying 100% with the rules of our organization cannot possibly worship OUR OWN God acceptably.

While you on the other hand said your God could be worshiped in any church NOT compulsorily with ECWA!
Yet you're now saying that religious groups also claiming Christians and carrying Bibles are woshiping OUR OWN God whose rule are known by ONLY JWs!

Of course the consistency or inconsistency of each participant is becoming obvious to all followers of this wonderful thread!
Let's continue, shebi it's between you and me!

budaatum:

I think this is what people tend to misunderstand. They think by "our own God" you mean the one God, completely failing to understand that there are many Gods or there'd be no reason to tell you not to worship them.

Some say God but mean themselves in whose image they create their Gods and tell one to bow to.

I know what to do.

Join the Online Witnesses for the Jealous Jehova.

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TATIME:
Let me quickly present OUR own practical application of the quoted scripture!
Jesus was teaching His disciples how to go out and preach about God's Kingdom.
They're still contemplating on the fierce opposition awaiting them courtesy Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Rabbis.
They found a disciple{not one of the twelve} doing exactly what Jesus is teaching them to do.
Out of envy they wanted to stop him since he is not one of the 12.
Jesus corrected their views that the so called stranger is helping them doing what they ought to be doing with bravery.
After they became anointed with the holy spirit {Act 1:8 compared to Act 2:1-4} Jesus began dealing with the 12 in a special way so that whoever wants to work for Jesus must come to LEARN from them.
That was the foundation of the global organization! Revelation 21:14
So today whoever wants to work for Jesus MUST come and learn how to do so from his anointed servants. Whoever refuses is surely worshiping God but certainly NOT OUR OWN GOD!

budaatum:

I see the problem. I was told I can't be a Online JW self after showing my certification, and was told I'm "certainly NOT worshiping our own God JEHOVAH. Period! " It is rather odd if the same person says, "leave the judgement in Jesus' hands".

Should one not think that when one is condemning?

Someone explain the essence of this verse to me please.

shadeyinka:

You are exactly like them!
As you are, so they are!

They don't belong to us just like you!

shadeyinka:

You are exactly like them!
As you are, so they are!

They don't belong to us just like you!

TATIME:

Please, for the sake of your own health.
STOP arguing with Maximus. He is a trained soldier from the military intelligence, i've called him to leave you alone but it's like he takes pleasure in tormenting you with this scriptural based discussion.
If you feel like knowing how JWs are organised to make our preaching and teaching work effective, contact local JWs in your area and ask them questions.
Maximus is a warrior, the mindset of war is still boiling fresh in his brains and now that he has received training regarding spiritual war, he is happy doing what he knows best as he's now doing it for Jesus!
But if you're sure you are up to the task, its ok you can continue with him but i'm sure he has gotten all the weapons ready for spiritual battles as he stands for Jesus against whoever will not bow to OUR King!

Maximus69:

PHARISEE!
Why are you judging without letting them speak for themslves? John 7:50-51
You shouldn't speak for them on social media Sir!
What God's law says is 'allow them to speak for themselves' Deuteronomy 1:16-17
So call each of them just as you've done with a JW, open a thread like this and have a FRIENDLY discussion with him/her.
As for the judging, please allow Jesus to do that NOT!

Emusan:


Sorry I didn't get you very well

Could you please explain further?

shadeyinka:

Sadducees like you are far much worse. Candidates of hell not worthy of rebuke or chastisement from Jesus! At least some of them were good Pharisees.
Luk 13:31: "The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying to him, Get you out, and depart hence: for Herod will kill you."
Luk 14:1: "And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him."
Acts 26:5: "Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most strait sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee."
If you can find just one good Sadducee in the bible, you win!
Maximus you are a real Sadducee!

Maximus69:
All talks talks talks with nothing to prove the accusation as true!
Pharisees gathered together and without a hearing they've condemned Jesus as worthy of execution. You are on social media castigating members of two different well established organization who are claiming Christians like you do.
And none of them is being questioned for the public to know exactly if what you're saying is true!
Now because i said that attitude reminds me of what Pharisees did to Jesus, you have nothing as in NOTHING in any of my attitude to question but jumped into counter accusations calling me Sadducee without any proof apart from quoting scripture that you don't even know the practical applications!
Well everyone can see that you're a master in falsely accusing people without proof!

budaatum:

What did you get?
Be more specific with your question.

shadeyinka:

It doesn't change the fact that you are a special specimen of Sadducees!

Like Jesus I say, "Get thee behind me satan!"

Maximus69:

By 'the fruit' nah remember? Matthew 7:15-20
So the one under the influence of Satan is becoming obvious to honesthearted and sincere followers!
Just open another thread for both adherents of those three religious groups to air their beliefs before quantifying them as worshipers of the same God with JWs. That's all i'm saying Sir!

Maximus69:

Be careful o.
That one is another patient suffering from serious critical spirituals health conditions with antijw virus!

budaatum:

What did you get?
Be more specific with your question.

I see the problem. I was told I can't be a Online JW self after showing my certification, and was told I'm "certainly NOT worshiping our own God JEHOVAH. Period! smiley smiley smiley" It is rather odd if the same person says, "leave the judgement in Jesus' hands".

Should one not think that when one is condemning?

Someone explain the essence of this verse to me please.

shadeyinka:

What can be worse than being a Sadducee?
It means hopelessly Spiritually LOST!
But God is merciful: "I sincerely pray that you will one day Find the Lord Jesus Christ and be free from your spiritual bondage"!
AMEN!
This conversation is Over: even if you respond, I won't comment again.

Maximus69:

PHARISEE!
Why are you judging without letting them speak for themslves? John 7:50-51
You shouldn't speak for them on social media Sir!
What God's law says is 'allow them to speak for themselves' Deuteronomy 1:16-17
So call each of them just as you've done with a JW, open a thread like this and have a FRIENDLY discussion with him/her.
As for the judging, please allow Jesus to do that NOT!

Maximus69:
I never wanted this discussion from the start but you and your friend alBHAGDADI kept ranting that a JW can't stand you in a Biblical discuss.
If i told you that you're not informed enough to face such a challenge, you'll get annoyed. Now after all the ranting, insulting, judging and presumptuously quoting scriptures against me without any PRACTICAL APPLICATION you finally surrendered!
I'm sure this is as a result of Tatime's warning, he saved you from my hands i would have sent you to your early grave with a cool yet tormenting conversation.

Learn your lesson today!
Not you nor any of your so called self imposed titled Pastors of no virtuous repute can stand before a JW for a challenge on what the Bible REALLY teach! Isaiah 54:17

Farewell my friend!

Maximus69:

PHARISEE!
Why are you judging without letting them speak for themslves? John 7:50-51
You shouldn't speak for them on social media Sir!
What God's law says is 'allow them to speak for themselves' Deuteronomy 1:16-17
So call each of them just as you've done with a JW, open a thread like this and have a FRIENDLY discussion with him/her.
As for the judging, please allow Jesus to do that NOT!

budaatum:

I'm certain he is just a human being like me.

shadeyinka:

Maximus69:
This is the post that revealed how empty you are, i just kept petting you till now to expose your ignorance about what you claim to be {a born again Christian}

shadeyinka:

Since I didn't want to reply: have a beautiful, beautiful, wonderful and peaceful DAY!

Image123:
So TATIME is on this thread sef and he refused to reply me? Na wa oh.

Maximus69:
Well good morning my friend.
And because of this, i'll also give you something as well. Please manage this, it's just a token from the bottom of my heart!

shadeyinka:
Maximus69
Janosky
TATIME

So many human beings are unknowingly living in LIES and Deliberate Fabricated DECEPTIONS. Unfortunately, these same people unfortunately convince themselves of the same lies even when the truth is painfully obvious and plain. Muslims till tomorrow believe vehemently that Mohammed is the last Prophet many are even willing to bomb themselves up for the sale of aljanna, so are the Mormons etc

Usually, every lie is based on the truth: no lie exist out of the blues but from the foundation of truth. However, a lie is NOT the truth because its aim is to MISREPRESENT the TRUTH as something it isn't.

Let's look just at one:
According to Jehovah's Witness Doctrine, Jesus was created first AND Jesus created ALL OTHER Things.

Col1:15-17 NWT
15 He is the image of the invisible God,m the firstborn of all creation;n 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,o whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through himp and for him. 17 Also, he is before all other things, and by means of him all other things were made to exist,

Not minding the all other things as put in the NWT edition.

When you compare with Gen 1:1
Gen 1:1:
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

The JWs says that God was acting like a CEO who says "I built this company from the ground up!" even though, we all know that the CEO used other agents like his lawyers, accountants, foremen, clerks etc.

On the surface, it looks like a very solid argument: God is the creator who employed the service of Jesus to create every other things (including the angels which include satan. Abi?)

Unfortunately, this argument break down when you read the same Genesis creation account. I will quote just a few accounts just to show that the above argument fail miserably.


Gen 1:3:
"And God said , Let there be light: and there was light."

Gen 1:6:
"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the middle of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

Gen 1:9:
"And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together to one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so."

Gen 1:11:
"And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth: and it was so."

Gen 1:14:
"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:"

Gen 1:20:
"And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven."

Gen 1:24:
"And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so."

Gen 1:26:
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

For every time God SPOKE, Creation OCCURRED of the "so called OTHER THINGs"


As usual, you will have arguments and excuses: the implication is that God's WORD is powerless to create.

That is why God Created Everything BY HIS SPOKEN WORD:

John 1:1-3:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

Hairyrapunzel:


You will wait for your jehovah's government to replace all human government forever. You go wait tire. The only place your wish will come true is inside your head. That means everything you wish will remain in your imagination.
The same way your founding fathers died of heartbreak waiting for their delusions to come to pass is the same way you will still die waiting for your delusion of your jehovah's government replacing all human government to come to pass.

Just get ready you will die and nothing will happen. You will still not live forever on this earth.

Maximus69:
@Shadeyinka.
Join me as i welcome a friend of mine who just joined the podium 'Mr Hairyrapunzel' once a JW but left the organization due to having some frictions with the norms.
You can also ask him questions on why he left the organization,
Happy discussion!

shadeyinka:

No problem!
I'll try to chat him up.

But why? I think that's not to your advantage. Is it?