Gaddafithe2nd:

They are already living on loans. I just dey pity them.

I read Trump is preparing a $16 billion welfare package to help farmers weather the effects of the trade war and help towards re-election in 2020. The republicans like to cry about socialism, is this not socialism?

gnykelly:


do you think Dangote will be dying for visa... when last did you see him in USA

Yes he does , and he goes there all the time , dummy do you think he published his itineray for you and the public to see? its only when he wants that he announced to the public what he wants them to know

Dummy , so because you don't see topics on nairaland titled dangote visits America you assume he doesn't go there ?

How stupid are you?

Tourshaw:


You are right. But don't you think you should rather go for conservative damage? If the Chinese government do the same, do you try to weigh the pros and cons of it?

The US government didn't go for a conservative damage but you expect China to do that

olioxx:

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USA is the biggest bad threat actors.
USA is the largest buyer of Zero days.
USA tech product also have security vulnerability etc Intel, Apple, Facebook.
USA once attacked Iran centrifuges.
USA's NSA found the Eternalblue vulnerability and didn't even inform Microsoft, but instead used it to attack lots of unpatched comps.
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If China and Iran are attacking USA, then they are justified.
USA unilaterally worked out of a nuclear deal, which is VERY WRONG.
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USA steals a lot of IP than china even. So China is coming back for them.
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I am a Cybersecurity guy, so I know the drill.
I am only stating the facts.

I’m not complaining for China defending themselves against spies am I? I’m also saying is to can also defend themselves also.

The fact they deserve to be spied on for whatever reason like Russia didn’t spy on others doesn’t mean they shud sit back and let it happen so yes blocking huawei is a solution like China also did for Amazon, fb and the likes it’s fair and balanced.

China aslo also stolen a lot from the us over the years trump only just took the actions Obama cud only talk about. Even obama complained about China.

MissRaine69:

Have you been to China? If not visit some time then you will see how the state controls information technology. The state is also part of huawei

Even the USA that calls herself the land of the freedom don't give freedom. Who do you think collects all the data from Facebook, Google and other USA tech giants? Why is USA involved with echelon (5 eyes) with the UK, NZ, Australia and Canada? Where they monitor calls and emails of their citizens.
Even freedom for journalism has dropped in the USA.
Have you ever heard of Gary Webb? A US investigative journalist that was shot dead after revealing the secrets of CIA involvement in drugs to fund the Nicaraguan civil war.

Both USA and China are bad, stop painting one bad and calling the other an angel.

ollah2:


You are more tech savvy than this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5mac.com/2013/08/05/1b-wiped-off-samsungs-value-following-presidential-veto-samsung-continues-appeals/amp/

Why did Trump single out Huawei out of millions of Chinese firms? It's not about the Japanese or Koreans or Taiwanese but about 5G. He who controls 5G has about 500 billion USD to make and also control the world. USA don't want that from China

5G isn't the only major reason.... intellectual property infringement, banning of American companies and spyware are the major reasons...5G falls under spyware

have u forgotten that American government banned ZTE earlier this year.? DJI is next
your last sentence is totally false..there are other players like Nokia and Eriksson in 5G technology.... American government is more concerned about Huawei using 5G as spyware.5G doesn't control the world

Gaddafithe2nd:

Wow! Kindly, share the links where I can read about this rare earth. Some days back, I watched how President Xi was examining some minerals exhibited in one factory in China.

Just google "rare earth" and also watch YouTube vids

jaxxy:


This is not just politics bt more sensitive. Seems u don’t know there smtn called spy technology and China has been spying on the us for long. Huawei is a main Chinese company and the way China operates it can easily use the company as spies.

Now China doesn’t allow Fb
China doesn’t allow Twitter
China doesn’t allow amazon

The us didn’t complain even though no evidence.

So Why shud the us trust huawei? A probable spy agency. They need to be careful.

US ranks number one in global spying and hacking, Edward Snowden once said "US has been hacking China and Hong Kong since 2008" US has yet to substantiate her claims with evidence. US likes to play double standard

ollah2:


Just google "rare earth" and also watch YouTube vids

I will bro, thanks.

hermesprogidy:

I read Trump is preparing a $16 billion welfare package to help farmers weather the effects of the trade war and help towards re-election in 2020. The republicans like to cry about socialism, is this not socialism?

Don't mind that double standard country. The same country will abuse socialist countries like Cuba and China but practiced the same socialism.

chiboy1116:
dude they are bothered , 5g would bring a revenue of 500billion dollars to the Chinese govt and 3million jobs , and that's just the start of it , the USA are so paranoid that at&t had to bring a fake 5g network lolx .

Yh I know it’s centered around 5g technology and it’s potential and trust me besides it economic advantage to China it can be a dangerous spy tool if not checked so there are sm security concerns. Us hasn’t perfected their 5g technology yet think.

gnykelly:


let me help you with your ignorance... China didn't send Google et.al away... he ask them to comply by her law they refused and left... China want Google server that takes information from her citizens to be located in the country. Google refuse

Rather help your ignorance, if you know the meaning of protectionism you wouldn't be saying what you're saying.
Since you don't know, Google was banned in China.

You expect a nation to be running trade deficit without asking for negotiations, you wouldn't see anything bad in it, that's Nigerian way of doing business.

Did America sanction Huawei first? It was a fallout of the fact that Chinese were playing the Americans with delay tactics. Please read What led to that, and stop talking trash.

Samsung is not a Chinese company na

Kreamie:
HUAWEI
ZTE

Who’s next?

Samsung?
Xiaomi?

unmask:
US is capitalist....the corporations rule. 5G technology is 2years away from American companies with a potential $500bn largese.

Why should all that money go to the Chinese?

So what can be done? Accuse Huawei of spying without evidence, then bully your allies as well to drop them.

Several allies including Germany and UK have scrutinized Huawei and found nothing wrong.

How does this play out? An American company finally gets a break on 5G US sells it to the world as the safest and fastest. They gain a foothold in the 5G space....then they declare Huawei is clean.

QED

I even saw a story were NASA said 5G isn't safe..

There was one video that I watch on Instagram where a USA politician said; " They must win the 5G war".
We all know this is how USA use media to sell lies to the world. They did the same in Iraq and Libya.

Belial06:


Yes he does , and he goes there all the time , dummy do you think he published his itineray for you and the public to see? its only when he wants that he announced to the public what he wants them to know

Dummy , so because you don't see topics on nairaland titled dangote visits America you assume he doesn't go there ?

How stupid are you?

you don't have to go so low to be calling other people stupid... who are your parents.

ollah2:



The big one is still coming oo. The rare earths but China don't rush to make decisions. They make calculated moves and like I said before the Chinese are strong and resilient people but same can't be said about Americans

this rare earth is the only way china can hurt america,but trust me, Australia is the next alternative and their are already planning to build factories in America.


once America stops ordering the elements from china,the Chinese market of rare elements will fall and america will never go back to China for rare elements.dont forget foxconn,apple,dell,hp etc all have factories in China and they are planning on relocating to Vietnam, Indonesia and india.apple is already manufacturing some iPhones in India right now.do u know the consequences of this one Chinese economy that is already collapsing?

Gaddafithe2nd:

There was one video that I watch on Instagram where a USA politician said; " They must win the 5G war".
We all know this is how USA use media to sell lies to the world. They did the same in Iraq and Libya.

exactly my point.

gnykelly:


you don't have to go so low to be calling other people stupid... who are your parents.

Stupid isn't an abuse it's a name for individuals of really low mental capability brazenly displaying their ignorance with spunk

Dude my parents are your generational betters and masters

Don't get personal

martineverest:
5G isn't the only major reason.... intellectual property infringement, banning of American companies and spyware are the major reasons...5G falls under spyware

have u forgotten that American government banned ZTE earlier this year.? DJI is next
your last sentence is totally false..there are other players like Nokia and Eriksson in 5G technology.... American government is more concerned about Huawei using 5G as spyware.5G doesn't control the world

Why did US government single out only Huawei? If it's about IP why wait till this minute? Quit writing spying and baning American companies. I have schooled you on that and writing the same thing again without proofs is brain draining.

Huawei has more patents than Nokia and Ericsson, it's cheaper, uses lesser equipment and takes lesser space and still better but you want corporations do choose Nokia or Ericsson?

lafiagi007:

mtcheeeeeeew , first of all, do you know that huawie's main product is not smartphone? stop comparing them with Samsung.
as for being vindictive, China is not an ass licking country, so it has called o make a counter attack.
lastly, as for the issue of spying If you know, you know, US spies more on you than any other nation ( please go and read about Vault 7) and mind you, I am into infosec so I know this subject matter bro.

Who doesn’t know that? Huawei started majorly as telecoms hardware and solutions provider just like Ericsson and the likes. They only ventured into smartphones like 10years back.

I know the us are top spies already and I support China for banning companies like fb etc bt it’s same way I support us for banning huawei. Nobody shud make themselves vulnerable to spy companies and technology.

martineverest:
this rare earth is the only way china can hurt america,but trust me, Australia is the next alternative and their are already planning to build factories in America.


once America stops ordering the elements from china,the Chinese market of rare elements will fall and america will never go back to China for rare elements.dont forget foxconn,apple,dell,hp etc all have factories in China and they are planning on relocating to Vietnam, Indonesia and india.apple is already manufacturing some iPhones in India right now.do u know the consequences of this one Chinese economy that is already collapsing?

it is not only about getting the material... China is the only country with the technology on refining it...

in 2012 when China limit her rare elements export Obama had to force WTO to chaste China...

two years ago about 200 start up raised some money from VC 195 of them bankrupt before production. the remaining 5 went into oblivion.

NLFINEST:
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Exactly, the U.S will now do same by rounding up Chinese expatriate sending them home and even accusing some for espionage

Belial06:


Another visa rejected bitter soul

Cry me a. River and die there in Nigeria

Oga shut up, must you seek for a Visa to make it? Very poor mentality. Counter his claims not spewing thrash to cover your ignorance....

martineverest:
this rare earth is the only way china can hurt america,but trust me, Australia is the next alternative and their are already planning to build factories in America.


once America stops ordering the elements from china,the Chinese market of rare elements will fall and america will never go back to China for rare elements.dont forget foxconn,apple,dell,hp etc all have factories in China and they are planning on relocating to Vietnam, Indonesia and india.apple is already manufacturing some iPhones in India right now.do u know the consequences of this one Chinese economy that is already collapsing?

Australia can't mine it like China, they can't mine it in large quantities like China, they can't mine and sell cheaper like China, they don't have large reserve like china. Do you expect companies to wait until 10years for Australia to be ready? so forget that media nonsense and it's the same nonsense they fed you that the Chinese economy is collapsing. If they relocate their factories to other countries, they should then kiss the Chinese market goodbye. Pretty simple

nigeriapenmedia:
US always feel the are the boss, Chinese no go gree o. This is just the beginning of the story

Forget this policy makers.

Still on still, na the "people" go suffer am.

gnykelly:
it's now very clear that America and her companies attain the utopian first by bullying others that they felt threatened into oblivion...

the case against hauwei is baseless with no proof...
same way they destroyed Toshiba...

same way they destroyed many nations around the world...

the democrazy they brought to Libya have caused ripple effect of terrorism on our northern borders...

they gave Iraq democrazy....look at where it's

Nigeria democrazy takes huge amount of blood every 4 years...

nobody or country can collapse America... I bet ya... America will implode. and history will be rewritten.

Oga pls add Afghanistan and Syria to your list

anonymous1759:



Oga shut up, must you seek for a Visa to make it? Very poor mentality. Counter his claims not spewing thrash to cover your ignorance....

For how many years have you been banned from reapplying for American visa?

Salty arse , bitter soul

Cry me a river

MissRaine69:

It’s not about licking anyone’s ass Huawei argues it is independent of the state yet the Chinese government is heavily invested in Huawei . It’s a technology giant and if a state especially China is involved that makes any country Huawei is operating in a target for state sponsored spying. China is notorious for that Huawei has issues in Canada and Europe read newspapers it helps.

I stopped reading from the bolded.


E get any country for dis world wey spy pass USA

Even Russia dey learn work from USA hands.

lanre316:



Don't pity the the American workers. They are not Nigerians. They will easily get another jobs. Pity Nigerian jobless youths.

I get you bro..
Buh..American or Nigerian...we are all Humans.

gnykelly:
it's now very clear that America and her companies attain the utopian first by bullying others that they felt threatened into oblivion...

the case against hauwei is baseless with no proof...
same way they destroyed Toshiba...

same way they destroyed many nations around the world...

the democrazy they brought to Libya have caused ripple effect of terrorism on our northern borders...

they gave Iraq democrazy....look at where it's

Nigeria democrazy takes huge amount of blood every 4 years...

nobody or country can collapse America... I bet ya... America will implode. and history will be rewritten.

The problem I have with many Nigerians discussing international topics is that they only react based on a one time incident without the deep knowledge or the root cause of why the problem occurred in the first place!

@gnykelly, are you aware of that Huawei has a reward program in its China Headquarters that gives employees monetary bonus based on the sophistication of technology secrets they can steal from Western companies?

Are you aware that T-Mobile, a United States company accused Huawei of stealing its "Tappy" technology as early as last year? Do you know what that means? - All the money, energy, time and other resources invested into the project stolen away by the Chinese.

Are you aware that the daughter of Huawei Boss Meng, who is also the Chief Financial Officer of Huawei was arrested in Canada in December 2018 and she's waiting extradition to the United States because she lied to HSBC and sold banned technologies to Iran?

Are you aware that Facebook, Google, WhatsApp, Instagram and many more western mobile apps have been banned in China for a number of years now?

Did you know that 2014, Vodafone accused Huawei of spying?!

If you don't have answers to those questions or you're not aware, don't make conclusions that the United States is bullying China!

The point is this, China has closed up their country to foreign investment but they keep going out to other countries, expanding abroad. If you don't understand economics, please no need to reply.

Enjoy your day.

ollah2:


US government have problems with China because they refused to be their dogs like South Korea and Japan. Us government always have problems with countries that refuses to be their dogs. Hence the reason they destroyed Libya, Afganistan, Iraq, Syria and planning to destroy Iran and Venuzuela

China has always been US DOGS.. Just be patient, the story continues!

ollah2:



Why did US government single out only Huawei? If it's about IP why wait till this minute? Quit writing spying and baning American companies. I have schooled you on that and writing the same thing again without proofs is brain draining.

Huawei has more patents than Nokia and Ericsson, it's cheaper, uses lesser equipment and takes lesser space and still better but you want corporations do choose Nokia or Ericsson?

ZTE is also a 5G provider it was also banned in January.... the only advantage Huawei got over Nokia and Erikson is the cost.thats because Chinese government owns Huawei and they make things cheaper so they can spy