Fulani mind games

Igbos: shooting themselves in the foot politically since 1966.


1. APC will NEVER give the ticket to SE.

2. If igbo governors decamp to APC, then they loose influence in PDP in which case they loose any leverage to clinch what was already a tall order in PDP.

I have said it elsewhere that every political move the Igbos have made since 1966 have ultimately backfired on them in the long run. This is another one of those moves, that will back fire if they try it, at least for2023.

Hard as it might be to take in, the truth is there is no Igbo presidency for a while, this move will just make the already irrelevant SE vote more irrelevant because it will split the Ibo support.


This tactic of joining both parties may work in the long run if they are prepared to wait at least 2 or 3 election cycles without wailing. Can the Ibo man do that?

No room for any terror!sts organisation called apcshit in the SS/SE. ,we in Akwa Ibom state says CAPITAL NO to Apcshit and buharigg in our peaceful regions.

Ikinternational:
Politics is supposed to be about ideology. But not in Nigeria. And no one seems to be bothered.

Even on nairaland, for all the noise making, nobody can tell you what pdp stands for. What apc stands for. Everybody here just to make clueless noise. As if there's a character difference between the two parties

A swear, this is the most sensible post in this forum.
Fact!!

Reading through the various comments on this 2023 Presidency makes one hate Yorubas the more, damn, gradually Yorubas are turning themselves to Northeastern Nigeria without knowing....its just a matter of time.....greed, insensibility and over confidence are what brings doom to a people.....I foresee some terrible future for the Yorubas if they continue with this unjustified hatred for Igbos.



Even the Hausa-Fulanis and Igbos that are known to disagree a lot in national politics don't show much hatred for each other like this....Yorubas don't know what they are doing to themselves....its always fun when you feel you are on the winning side, just a matter of time





This was why Moses killed an Egyptian in the Holy Bible

Firefox01:
Yamree slaves will continue to be politically incapacitated in our beloved Nigeria until they get sense. As it stands, a 12 yrs old JSS2 Yoruba boy stands a chance of becoming Nigeria's president in future before the first flat headed Yigbo gorilla smells that seat.

Something is seriously wrong with your head.

This doesn't even sound practicable.

isthatso:
Igbos: shooting themselves in the foot politically since 1966.


1. APC will NEVER give the ticket to SE.

2. If igbo governors decamp to APC, then they loose influence in PDP in which case they loose any leverage to clinch what was already a tall order in PDP.

I have said it elsewhere that every political move the Igbos have made since 1966 have ultimately backfired on them in the long run. This is another one of those moves, that will back fire if they try it, at least for2023.

Hard as it might be to take in, the truth is there is no Igbo presidency for a while, this move will just make the already irrelevant SE vote more irrelevant because it will split the Ibo support.


This tactic of joining both parties may work in the long run if they are prepared to wait at least 2 or 3 election cycles without wailing. Can the Ibo man do that?

I would've loved to share in ur 'optimism' but, factually, d future looks really bleak as regards that. How many election cycles have we between 1970 (end of d meaningless civil war) and 2015? 11! Yet a nonentity, semi-lunatic at best could come from nowhere and cause such massive unpatriotic following?
My brother, trust is d issue here. I used to wonder why d northerners were always wary of the lots, but (political) events post 2014 have opened d eyes of the liberals - of which I was one.

Charleys:
How are you even sure you're going to see 2023

obiano and umahi where are you?

H

Ikinternational:


You people keep missing the point in broad daylight. I don't care what the politics game is about. What's at stake is the unity of the country. In FAIRNESS, it's the igbos turn. FULL STOP.
The goal post can't keep getting moved whenever it's igbos turn to score. N expect them to keep on smiling?
NOBODY wants to be a second class citizen in their own country.
N the fact that some of you are okay marginalizing the igbos n expect them not to notice, are they zombies?

Right is Right Wrong is Wrong. Let's be honest when we speak. I know it's difficult for some, but damn try.

Nobody is saying it's not the igbo turn. APC cannot give its ticket to any igbo man.
It's simple to demand the ticket from PDP. But even the PDP wont take that risk.

I think the igbos needs to come together as one ressuciate themselves, learn to play politics in Nigeria.

Politics of hate and bitterness cannot make an igbo man a president.

In the last election, the houses, yorubas all voted massively for both APC and PDP but the igbos voted massi9only for PDP.

The south south were wise enough, voting for both APC and PDP.

My igbo brothers can use 2023 to prove to other region that they are capable to produce president in 2027.

Whether top igbo politicians decamp or not, it doesn't stop the hatred that the other ethnic groups have for them. The igbos should demand a presidency slot in the PDP.

WisdomFlakes:



https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/10/2023-igbo-presidency-we-need-two-south-east-governors-senators-to-defect-to-apc-ohanaeze/

E nta ara yin

Glad to hear this.
Finally, some people have started realising that politics is about affiliations, compromises and gives and takes.

You cannot remain in your comfort zone and expect people to hand power to you! You have to earn it. Ask PMB.....
Anything is possible with alliances

franchasng:
Reading through the various comments on this 2023 Presidency makes one hate Yorubas the more, damn, gradually Yorubas are turning themselves to Northeastern Nigeria without knowing....its just a matter of time.....greed, insensibility and over confidence are what brings doom to a people.....I foresee some terrible future for the Yorubas if they continue with this unjustified hatred for Igbos.



Even the Hausa-Fulanis and Igbos that are known to disagree a lot in national politics don't show much hatred for each other like this....Yorubas don't know what they are doing to themselves....its always fun when you feel you are on the winning side, just a matter of time





This was why Moses killed an Egyptian in the Holy Bible

You don't need to hate Yoruba. This permutation will back fire. We have minister from SE that can become president if APC want it to go to SE. If two governors and some senator decamp to APC that is the end of PDP and SE can become president under PDP more than APC. If they decamp and Tinubu or Osinbajo contest against them in the primary, who do you think will win the primary?

Lilswaghanxum:
Whether top igbo politicians decamp or not, it doesn't stop the hatred that the other ethnic groups have for them. The igbos should demand a presidency slot in the PDP.

1. Nobody hates ibos, Ibos have a persecutuon complex and then start to attack everybody who then respond.

2. You dont "demand" something that if not given has no repercussion. You demand something when you have the power of consequence. There is no consequence if the Ibos are not given the presidential slot, you dont have the numbers to make a difference, do not have the majority to change the laws of the country and you dont have military power...so nothing will happen if your "demands" are not met! Are ibos going to leave PDP and join APC as 3rd class citizens aka frying pan to fire?

stop threatening, making noise and learn to be strategic and tactical!!

franchasng:
Reading through the various comments on this 2023 Presidency makes one hate Yorubas the more

Lolz, more like Satan giving excuse for being evil.
Biko, continue in ur bile, hatred and bitterness.
#its_in_u .

....I foresee some terrible future for the Yorubas if they continue with this unjustified hatred for Igbos.

Lolz again.
#Francis de Nostradamus!
First pray to have long life

Even the Hausa-Fulanis and Igbos that are known to disagree a lot in national politics don't show much hatred for each other like this

#delusional
Yorubas are widely known to be hospitable and accommodating.
Its when u 'carry ur offering past d mosque' DT they call u to order. Who goes about calling his hosts derogatory names, calling their lands 'no mans land' and expect love?

....Yorubas don't know what they are doing to themselves....its always fun when you feel you are on the winning side, just a matter of time

#MYOB
Chukwudi, biko, let Bola bother his head with dt. e nor consign u

This was why Moses killed an Egyptian in the Holy Bible

#là kill, là die
Here we go again: all brawn and no brain. You wan kee person abi? Ngwa, go ahead. Let not u/ur kindred shout 'marginalization' when they put d hangman's noose around ur neck.
Nor do pass ursef o. Even d noisemaker sef still dey find ways to enter nigeria without jamming python for road, e nor see.
A word is enough for ........ (dts if u are wise)

Thegoodone13:
You don't need to hate Yoruba. This permutation will back fire. We have minister from SE that can become president if APC want it to go to SE. If two governors and some senator decamp to APC that is the end of PDP and SE can become president under PDP more than APC. If they decamp and Tinubu or Osinbajo contest against them in the primary, who do you think will win the primary?

Some Northern members in APC are looking for how they will retain ticket in North, if APC ticket leaves the North 100% it wont go to SE. You think they will bypass SW and Give SE for what? They wont give Osinbajo, they wont give Fashola, they wont give ameachi, it's somebody from SE that will just stroll in and reap where he didnt sow?


you people are so delusional it's unreal!!

Ikinternational:


I really detest dishonest people. Blackmail?? Really?
The issue at hand is the UNITY of this country. Every gotdamn honest Nigerian knows damn well it's the igbos turn. N you're here talking about blackmail. Igbos don't vote hausa? Igbos don't vote yoruba? Igbos don't vote niger delta? So them seeking the same support in return is them blackmailing Nigerians? Then let's stop the unity n one nigeria shenanigans. SOME don't want igbos to taste power. Simple as that.

Absolutely nothing stops apc from getting a popular igbo politician to defect. By offering him top of the ticket. IE peter obi. Party loyalty does not exist in Nigerian politics. All these guys are practically free agents. Igbos will vote apc if they bring the RIGHT candidate forward. It's up to apc power brokers to do their due diligence. So don't give me this co ck n bull story like it's a doomed idea.

you are the only one who has made sense here

isthatso:


APC is looking for how they will retain ticket in North, if APC ticket leaves the North 100% it wont go to SE. You think they will bypass SW and Give SE for what? They wont give Osinbajo, they wont give Fashola, they wont give ameachi, it's somebody from SE that will just stroll in and reap where he didnt sow? If u understand me, we are sayings the same things


you people are so delusional it's unreal!!

if u understand me, we are sayings the same things

Cherrybae:


Nobody is saying it's not the igbo turn. APC cannot give its ticket to any igbo man.
It's simple to demand the ticket from PDP. But even the PDP wont take that risk.

I think the igbos needs to come together as one ressuciate themselves, learn to play politics in Nigeria.

Politics of hate and bitterness cannot make an igbo man a president.

In the last election, the houses, yorubas all voted massively for both APC and PDP but the igbos voted massi9only for PDP.

The south south were wise enough, voting for both APC and PDP.

My igbo brothers can use 2023 to prove to other region that they are capable to produce president in 2027.

You people are only capable of looking at things with your own eyes. It's unfortunate.

Thank you for willing to take igbos in consideration after they prove to your hearts content. Really nice of you.

raumdeuter:


You voted PDP so go and claim your ticket from PDP

as if apc and pdp didn't feed north/north in the last election...

Confusionists set of people, they didn't even know what they want.

omenka:
Haq haq haq!! They are beginning to wise up.

We need the insults on the forum to stop too. Your subjects MUST SHOW they are willing and ready to support the party in 2023 if the zone must be considered for the party's ticket.

You cant keep showing everyday you dispise a political party and verbally brutalize its leaders then expect to be rewarded with its ticket. That is inconceivable.

you talk like the leaders care about this forum...

Ikinternational:


I really detest dishonest people. Blackmail?? Really?
The issue at hand is the UNITY of this country. Every gotdamn honest Nigerian knows damn well it's the igbos turn. N you're here talking about blackmail. Igbos don't vote hausa? Igbos don't vote yoruba? Igbos don't vote niger delta? So them seeking the same support in return is them blackmailing Nigerians? Then let's stop the unity n one nigeria shenanigans. SOME don't want igbos to taste power. Simple as that.

Absolutely nothing stops apc from getting a popular igbo politician to defect. By offering him top of the ticket. IE peter obi. Party loyalty does not exist in Nigerian politics. All these guys are practically free agents. Igbos will vote apc if they bring the RIGHT candidate forward. It's up to apc power brokers to do their due diligence. So don't give me this co ck n bull story like it's a doomed idea.

oh Unity? where was the unity when you were abusing every other tribe since 2015, where was the unity when you were labelling some people Afonjas and others Zombies and islamists, where was the unity when your people were threatening to break away and form your own republic, 2023 is round the corner and now you are shouting Unity? is it people that have tried to break away from the country twice that we will put in charge of the armed forces? Who hands over power to someone who has continously professed hate for him/her? do you people not think?

you will wait long for this presidency o!! You people dont seem to understand the damage you have done to your cause these last 4 years!!!

The average Northerner or SW is not voting for a president from the SE, except both parties field a SE candidate and thats never going to happen.

2039 earliest....and only if you behave yourselves in that time. personally I believe we will see another SS president before we see a SE president.

Depressed101:
as if apc and pdp didn't feed north/north in the last election...

Both parties chose Northern candidates and you Ibos voted for the Northern PDP candidate

Igbo don’t know what they want.Their leaders and followers are self centered. Ameachi begged them to vote massively for Buhari in 2019 so that it would be easy for APC to support their presidency in 2023 but what the they do, instead they threw all their eggs in the basket of PDP and Atiku. Politics is a game of number, how do you justify support from region you hate with passion never voted into power. They have missed it . They should wait for 2039

"We surely get two Igbo Presidential materials to fly PDP and APC tickets, especially those with the same pedigrees of Great Zik of Africa."

Apc will never play to this kind gallery when it's obvious the SE will massively vote for PDP

greatest mistake SE made was calling APC an islamic and northern party when it was newly formed. It will continue to haunt them until only God Knows, even the PDP now knows that the SE cannot deliver so much as evidenced on the last elections.

I remembered when GEJ formed the National confab then, fashola and tinubu were not interested initially and vowed not to participate but they later had a rethink and decided to participate. Today nobody can say that the SW did not contribute to that confab.

Our SE folks and politicians should try and always see things from a national perspective and not always insist on their own narrow regional interest. Its a give and take thing.

Learn from Brexit, everything no be gra gra and always be sure you are really what you think you are!

Nonsense

Ohaneze youths ko, ohaneze adults ni.
all are just hungry bunch of political opportunists looking for where to feed full.how is igbo president going to help that chinedu na agba oso ahia na main market onitcha? how is it going to better the life of an average igbo man hustling in the street? after the support given to gudluck by the igbos during his regime how does it benefit the common man? how does buhari beeing the president affect the high rate of alamajiri in his state positively? all these our stupid elites taking us for fools...who is going to be the president? okorocha? okezie ikpazu? ike ekweremmadu? who exactly? same people that put us in our present condition,same people that cant even handle and maintain their respective states! smh!! good riddance!!!