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Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by beardedboy(m): 8:40am On Dec 31, 2019 |
GraGra247:I don hear you sir/ma. Experience, they say, is the best teacher. I pray you live long to witness the fruit of your decision. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by GraGra247(m): 8:45am On Dec 31, 2019 |
beardedboy: There are many kids that were flogged all their lives but yet turned out very wicked, hardened, rebellious, joined cult and criminal activities. So its a fact that if my recommendations above won't work, flogging won't work either. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by beardedboy(m): 8:49am On Dec 31, 2019 |
GraGra247: Fallacious argument. There are many sick people who were admitted to the best hospitals and treated by the best doctors in the world, yet they didn't survive. There are many drivers who used their seatbelts and observed the speed limits, yet they ended up in crash. There are many students who studied hard and read day and night yet they didn't get admission to any school. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Dominatrix(f): 9:10am On Dec 31, 2019 |
For someone like me that's a very effective form of discipline LOL. But parents should never flog their kids. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by GraGra247(m): 9:20am On Dec 31, 2019 |
beardedboy: Your argument doesn't follow cos I provided a better alternative. Your argument will only stand if there was no disciplinary alternative. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Nobody: 9:23am On Dec 31, 2019 |
eduman365:Now you're talking, instead of acting like Nigeria is Perfect because our parents beat us at the slightest provocation and the west is thrash because they don't beat. Every society has its own problems. PS even if you judged me or downgraded me, I wouldn't care. That one is on you. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Nobody: 9:26am On Dec 31, 2019 |
HannahHitler: All the best dear. Jesus loves you. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Amumaigwe: 9:26am On Dec 31, 2019 |
socialmediaman: It is actually you that are misguided. The term 'rod' there represents flogging as a means of correction and discipline. Read Pv 29:19 |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by streetfabulous: 9:32am On Dec 31, 2019 |
hush15:The discipline in child upbringing should help them make the right decision in the midst of all such influences you raised. If these influences can still pervert them to become corrupt inspite of all the discipline, then that discipline was ineffective and without purpose afore-thought. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by thinkmoney(m): 9:46am On Dec 31, 2019 |
GraGra247:kk |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Amanda4life: 9:47am On Dec 31, 2019 |
Simplyleo: If your child come my class I go flog am so te urine go comot for him body Or better still a good knock on his head will relieve .my anger What do you � think? I hope this is not too small |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Simplyleo: 9:54am On Dec 31, 2019 |
Amanda4life:The good thing here is that you used "if". Of course, there are so many "ifs" around the world. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by NwaMbeke: 10:03am On Dec 31, 2019 |
[s] Simplyleo:[/s] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by evy800(f): 10:03am On Dec 31, 2019 |
tchidi066: If u have been with kids who defy positive or negative reinforcement then u will know flogging has a salient role in a child's upbringing... |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by bukatyne(f): 11:00am On Dec 31, 2019 |
Flogging has always been effective. However, we flog to replace training instead of instilling discipline. After training a child and he/she strays from training, then correct in appropriate means (flogging, advice, physical punishments, withdrawal of some privileges) etc. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by bbjayone(f): 11:07am On Dec 31, 2019 |
twhy111: HAHAHAHAHA i follow for dis one oooooo 1 Like |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Nobody: 11:29am On Dec 31, 2019 |
socialmediaman:Proverbs 23 13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. 14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by tck2000(m): 11:54am On Dec 31, 2019 |
enemyofprogress: |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by tck2000(m): 11:56am On Dec 31, 2019 |
enemyofprogress:lol |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by tck2000(m): 11:58am On Dec 31, 2019 |
alcuin:Buhahaha |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by tck2000(m): 11:59am On Dec 31, 2019 |
Jokerman:lol,i support you. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by DenreleDave(m): 12:21pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
GraGra247: Bros, either of any.. Flogging is different from caning... Caning is correction, flogging is transfer of aggression and frustration |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Farki: 12:50pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
Flogging is the result of Nigerian ignorance, laziness and need for fear and control. Some people will turn out bad regardless of if you flog them or not, but in this country (and also this forum judging by the ignorant comments) we believe that flogging is the solution to all problems. Sha I don't blame them, their critical thinking skills have been flogged out of them and they take everything like meek dogs. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by beardedboy(m): 2:15pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
GraGra247:Good luck. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Beautyaddy: 2:15pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
m140: ....that you are. |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by DenreleDave(m): 2:49pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
dammiedot:[s] dammiedot:[/s] dammiedot: Flogging has not helped you, it has helped many many of us since ages and it will continue to help our children 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by Nobody: 3:17pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
I will try and instill the discipline in my first child...Na hin go train the younger ones.. Will just be there to supervise |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by hopismo2000: 3:51pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
NiCurious:I have taught in more than seven schools truly... the truth is no single method can be said to be effective.... It is usually easy to say it on social media and by mouth but when you are confronted with real problems in class it might be a different ball game.... Don't get me wrong, I can't guarantee that beating can solve all problems it can solve some and it may make some students worse.... A teacher must be dynamic, dynamic in the sense that different method should be introduced based on the type of the child you are dealing with..... Many students aren't serious and are seriously waiting to be sent out so that they can play some more.... Some student fear cane so much that even if you don't touch them with it , the mere sight of it can make them behave.... Teachers and parents should always use their discretions correctly and understand the fact that punishment, caning and other measures are meant to correct in extreme cases but not to kill.... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by beeznitfizo: 4:24pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
[size=13pt] MY OPINION FROM THE NIGERIAN WORLD VIEW[br/] This can best be understood when child development is divided into 4 stages beginning from when the child becomes conscious of its existence, environment, and reaches a stage muscular development to make conscious tactile impressions on its surroundings to when its attains adolescence (In Nigerian context for me-Secondary School(After WAEC) and 18 for those wey no dey school (adolescent wey dey cater for himself n lives by himself no follow-e don become adult)) Pre-Nursery Stage-(1yrs - 3yrs): At this stage the child is still learning and adjusting to his environment. its comprehension of right and wrong is not yet fully developed because its yet to master its environment. For me, kids at this stage should never be flogged when they err but a careful tap on the bombom when you want to make them understand certain ideas beyond their comprehension about bad things or behavior they do that are unacceptable. They tend to understand better with a tap or stern voice and face. Tap,verbal coercion and coaxing should be employed here. Kindergarten Stage- (3yrs - 6yrs): At this stage, they are still mastering the human development process. Cane at this stage should never be used. From experience, most grave errors committed at this stage by kids are as a result of the lapses of their guardians bc their mind is not fully matured enough to deal with it. I remember while I was still in kindergarten I and my friend dey press one girl kponyo for class everyday. We knew it was not right bc we dey hide dey do am but we really didn't know what we were doing bt it was good doing it. At this point basic rules should be constantly hammered to them-during family prayers etc. Only verbal and other means should be used(scolding, denial of toys etc) when they err. Primary School Stage-(as the child enters primary 1 to Primary 3) For me, My own idea ooo. Cane can and should be allowed freely here. As a Nigerian with a strong parental upbringing, Cane should be employed well well as deem deem fit from primary 3 because here the child's comprehension of good and bad is almost complete. Junior Secondary School Stage- ( as the child enters JSS1) Cane shouldn't allowed here because they are now fully conscious beings. As an instructor of children for years, I have observed that the most effective way for correcting a child is to give him punishment. After school vacates for the term, students in our punishment register stay back some for about 2 weeks longer doing punishment(u go pack dustbin eeeh ur back go break). Day students come and do theirs too from home. Its a very strict rule and back breaking and they hate it. Graver offences may warrant packing one tipper of sand with shovel. U hardly see students mess up. Fight- lia lia-dem no born d person well. For parents, flogging should be discouraged at this stage. As a parent, If you can cane ur child at this stage, y not punish him instead. Senior Secondary School Stage- ( as the child enters SSS1) For parents, Never,Never,Never flog ur child at this stage. Words, encouragement, teaching, and 'cracking brain' on them etc should be only used. Remember when my first daughter(14) was forming strong head and my wife had to call me in early. Wifey was complaining how she shouted back at her after she gave her instructions. After wife don para finish, I called her and told her to bring her phone. See as I rush go outside throw d phone for ground use big block knack am like 7 times come still fling am inside gutter.To make her reason d matter I still come use my bare hand pack sand dey rub for my head dey shout-"this girl wants to make me mad".I dey outside dey make fake call to confuse her brain-dey complain on d fake call while talking to her indirectly. My daughter has never seen me mad like that before, but all na acting sha. After that day she knew that was a no go area. But if say na flog....She fit challenge u sef and run comot. Abeg NO FLOGGING AT and AFTER THIS STAGE [/size] NiCurious: hopismo2000: chukzyfcbb:------------------------------------------------------------------- [quote THERE ARE NO FIXED RULES ] safarigirl: Nwaonyishi69: There is always variations because of differences. Children/people are different.This must be understood [/quote] -------------------------------------------- [quote COUNTRY NO GOOD ] destinychildolu: eduman365: Beautyaddy: Beautyaddy: HannahHitler: Beautyaddy: Vacora: I agree with eduman365: Don't ever think the white people are more scrupulous than we are. Infact we are better than them in terms of morals that is why u see abhorrent things never even thought of in Africa are practiced there. Believe me the white man is more corrupt than we are (quote me: trans atlantic-slave trade, international wars for economic interest etc) just that they have installed sound institutions that checkmate corrupt practices and this serves as a deterrent. Why do u think when they come to Nigeria they follow our normal style of kill and divide but in their country they dare not. Our politicians involved in the Halliburton scandal are still out contesting elections, y same white people who were involved were sentenced in their country. U just don't go to white man land and do anyhow. They have built strong institutions to checkmate fraud and corruption. [/quote] ------------------------------------------------ [quote DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE ] Trutherme: ClassicMG: RuddyFusion: dammiedot: Beedude:As can be observed from the posts above, What works for Mr. A might not work for Mr. B [/quote] |
Re: Do You Consider Flogging An Effective Way Of Discipline? What's The Alternative? by m140(m): 6:26pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
Beautyaddy:Nawa ooo, it's online people like you fit talk, if you see me you no go wait |
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