twosquare:
Go and ask any elder that is close to you that what is the meaning of oloola, or if there is any occupation like that....just for curiosity, someone who knows Yoruba very well. I won't say more than that.

And it is used to describe the ferocious nature of the animal...ila is like tribal marks....so, it is just referring to animal attacks, either adults or even kids. So, it doesn't have a knife before it marks like it wants to give you a tribal mark.

To the extent that I know, Yoruba tribal marks practitioners are called: "Alábe", "Alábàjà", or "Oníkolà" (aka "Oónkolà" ). I have never heard them being called: "Oló-òlà"

I am aware that Yoruba language is quite diverse and for that reason I am giving you some benefits of doubt. I am already consulting with an Ibadan elder on "Oló-òlà", if it's a Yoruba word, and what it means if it is one. I will revert to you in due course on my find.


But in any case, I already stated that even if you were correct about all your translations and interpretations of this Yoruba saying, you are still very, very far away from establishing anything specifically about Tiger from your interpretation/translation of this Yoruba saying.

The most conclusion you are able to draw from this saying, even if your translation/interpretation is correct, is that:

"Ogidan" is a "ferocious" beast. No more, no less.

And obviously, "ferociousness" is not a quality peculiar and unique to the "Tiger".

All the big cats are ferocious, viz. Lion, Tiger, Leopard, Jaguar, Panther, Cougar, Cheetah, et al.

In sum, you have not been able to demonstrate that "Ogidan" is "Tiger" even on the assumption that your interpretation/translation of the Yoruba saying was correct.

100% spot on. I've said this over and over on other fora.

You can confirm, but to help you https://www.worldpulse.com/community/users/olutosin/posts/35725

TAO11:


To the extent that I know, Yoruba tribal marks practitioners are called: "Alábe", "Alábàjà", or "Oníkolà" (aka "Oónkolà" ). I have never heard them being called: "Oló-òlà"

I am aware that Yoruba language is quite diverse and for that reason I am giving you some benefits of doubt. I am already consulting with an Ibadan elder on "Oló-òlà", if it's a Yoruba word, and what it means if it is one. I will revert to you in due course on my find.


But in any case, I already stated that even if you were correct about all your translations and interpretations of this Yoruba saying, you are still very, very far away from establishing anything specifically about Tiger from your interpretation/translation of this Yoruba saying.

The most conclusion you are able to draw from this saying, even if your translation/interpretation is correct, is that:

"Ogidan" is a "ferocious" beast. No more, no less.

And obviously, "ferociousness" is not a quality peculiar and unique to the "Tiger".

All the big cats are ferocious, viz. Lion, Tiger, Leopard, Jaguar, Panther, Cougar, Cheetah, et al.

In sum, you have not been able to demonstrate that "Ogidan" is "Tiger" even on the assumption that your interpretation/translation of the Yoruba saying was correct.

twosquare:
Go and ask any elder that is close to you that what is the meaning of oloola, or if there is any occupation like that....just for curiosity, someone who knows Yoruba very well. I won't say more than that.

And it is used to describe the ferocious nature of the animal...ila is like tribal marks....so, it is just referring to animal attacks, either adults or even kids. So, it doesn't have a knife before it marks like it wants to give you a tribal mark.

you're absolutely correct about that oloola,
thats a family name in IBADAN, even the name of my grandmum's family

twosquare:
You can confirm, but to help you https://www.worldpulse.com/community/users/olutosin/posts/35725

Thank you very much for the link. I also confirmed same about the word Oló-òlà as an alternative word to Alabe, Onikola, etc.

However, there are some subtle but very important details to point out here:

1. The word you refer to is actually pronounced as: Oló-òlà (with the "O"s as in the word "Ozone", and not as in the word "Octagon" ).

2. However, the specific word in the Yoruba statement about Ogidan is entirely and completely different from what you think it is.

The actual word in the Yoruba statement about Ogidan is in fact Ọlọ́là (with the "O"s as in the word "Octagon", and not as in the word "Ozone" ).

3. And like I have said earlier, even if we pretend for the sake of argument that your rendering, translation, or interpretation of the Yoruba statement is accurate, the fierceness or ferociousness of Ogidan (which is the most you can glean from your inaccurate interpretation) is not peculiar or unique to Tigers. All of the big cats are ferocious.

4. In sum, the Yoruba saying is as follows:
"Ogidan: Ọlọ́là-Ijù" --- meaning: "Ogidan: The noble one of the wild".

Such an absolute description of Ogidan by the Yorubas only matches other absolute descriptions of Kiniun (such as: "Kiniun: The king of all beasts" ) by the Yorubas.

Ekun is not so described by the Yorubas. Never described in such absolute or superlative terms.

Leopard is Ekun
Cheetah is amotekun
End of thread

Venerable612:


This is wrong.

First off the name Amotekun has nothing to do physical semblance as such.

It literally translates - “one who knows as Ekun”.

Again, you are wrong that Yoruba doesn’t have a transalation for Tiger - because our fathers didn’t have an encounter with them.

In fact Tiger has two Yoruba names. It could be called OGIDAN or EKUN. That’s why they say this provide - “Ogidan o ni se Barber, ki aja de be lo ge irun”.

And “KAKA KI KINIUN SAKAPO EKUN, OLODE A MAA RODE.“ Mind you Lion in Yoruba is Kiniun. And no one will ever compare a Lion with a Leopard. No animal can stand the Lion grit for grit amongst the Cat Family other than the Tiger; hence, the comparison.

Also, when Yorubas jokingly refer to someone as Ekun - it’s to represent that the person is a Strong man.

Thus,

Lion - Kiniun
Tiger - Ogidan and Ekun
Leopard - Amotekun
Cheetah - Owawa.

Hope this helps.

You surely don't know what Owawa is

nlPoster:
The OP is correct.

The only exception would be if Yorubas had actually encountered tigers and thus described them in the language.

Amotekun could also be panther (dictionary meaning).

Amotekun could also be a Jaguar

Venerable612:


This is wrong.

First off the name Amotekun has nothing to do physical semblance as such.

It literally translates - “one who knows as Ekun”.

Again, you are wrong that Yoruba doesn’t have a transalation for Tiger - because our fathers didn’t have an encounter with them.

In fact Tiger has two Yoruba names. It could be called OGIDAN or EKUN. That’s why they say this provide - “Ogidan o ni se Barber, ki aja de be lo ge irun”.

And “KAKA KI KINIUN SAKAPO EKUN, OLODE A MAA RODE.“ Mind you Lion in Yoruba is Kiniun. And no one will ever compare a Lion with a Leopard. No animal can stand the Lion grit for grit amongst the Cat Family other than the Tiger; hence, the comparison.

Also, when Yorubas jokingly refer to someone as Ekun - it’s to represent that the person is a Strong man.

Thus,

Lion - Kiniun
Tiger - Ogidan and Ekun
Leopard - Amotekun
Cheetah - Owawa.

Hope this helps.

^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Brilliant... a very brilliant post!
... and I wish you a Happy 2020
and a fulfilling decade ahead.

Even the word Akata is the Yoruba
word for the black panther.


Thanks.

Konquest:

^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Brilliant... a very brilliant post!
... and I wish you a Happy 2020
and a fulfilling decade ahead.

Even the word Akata is the Yoruba
word for the black panther.


Thanks.

Amen Sir.

Thank you so much.

Venerable612:

Amen Sir.
Thank you so much.

Please how does yoruba greet fisherman and palmtapper?

leopard is owawa cheetah is amorekun

AMOTEKUN2023:
Cobra - Sebe
Ox , Bull - Malu
Dog -Aja
Hedgehog -Ọya
Crocodile -Ọoni
Alligator -Ahọnrihọn
Pig -Ẹlẹdẹ
Vulture -Igun, Gunnugun, Gurugu, Akala
Wood-Carrier -Arigiṣẹgi
Hawks - Asa
Palm Bird -Ologiri
A species of Bird -Olofẹrẹ -
Sparrow -Ologoṣẹ
Peacock -Ọkin
Squirrel -Ọkẹrẹ
Rabbit -Ehoro
crickets -Okinrin
Pouch Rat -Okete
Wild Goat -Edu
A specie of Deer -Ekulu
Shark -Akurakuda
Rat/Mouse -Eku/Ekute
Earthworm -Ekolo
Sing Bird -Ẹyẹ-Orin
Partridge -Aparo
Horse -Ẹṣin
Donkey -Kẹtẹkẹtẹ
Camel -Rakunmi
Ass -Ibakasiẹ
Bat -Adan
Pelican -Ẹyẹ-Ofu
Water-bird -Osin
Dove -Adaba
Viper -Paramọlẹ
Sea-Gulls -Pẹju-pẹju
Yellow-haired Monkey -Sọmidọlọti/Oloyo
Sea-Bird -Yanja-yanja
Mosquito -Ẹfọn/Yanmu-yanmu
Raven -Ẹyẹ-Iwo
Snail-Igbin/Aginniṣọ
Freshwater Snail-Iṣawuru
Stay - Igala
Steer -Ẹgbọọrọ-Akọ Malu
Trout -Ẹja
Buffalo -Ẹfọn
Monkey-Ọbọ .
Ape -Ẹdun
Lizard-Alangba, -
Lobster-Alakasa
Boa-Constrictor Ere
Boar Ẹlẹdẹ-Igbo,
Gorilla, Baboon -Inaki, Inoki, Iro
Chimpanzee - Elegbede
Phython-Constrictor -Ojola
Electric Fish -Ojigi
Scorpion -Ojogan/Akeekee
Toad -Opolo
Antelope -Egbin
Tick/Flee -Eegbọn
Hippopotamus -Erinmi
Rhinoceros -Ẹranko bi Imado.
Reynard (Fox) -Kọlọkọlọ
Hyena/Wolf -Ikoko
Giraffe -Agbanrere
Cow Abo-Malu
Crab -Akan
Wild Pigeon-Oriri
Porcupine -Oorẹ, Eerẹ, Ojigbọn
Black-Ants -Tanpẹpẹ
Centipede -Tanisanko
Millipede -Ọkun
Frog -Konko
Chicken-Oromọ-Adiẹ
Nocturnal Animal-Ajao
Hound-Aja-Ọdẹ -
Elephant-Erin/Ajanaku
Sheep-Aguntan
Ram-Agbo
Woodcock -Agbe
White-feathered Bird -Lekeleke
Chamelon Ọga, Alagẹmọ
Crane-Bird -Akọ -
Parrot -Odidẹrẹ
Ostrich -Ogongo
White-Ant Ikan, Ikamudu
Tortoise-Ijapa
Tiger-Ẹkun
Lion-Kiniun
Pigeon-Ẹyẹle
Pig/Swine Ẹlẹdẹ
Eagle-Idi .
Guinea Fowl-Awo
Guinea Fowl-Ẹtu
Guinea Pig-Ẹmọ-Ile
Spider-Alantakun
Butterfly-Labalaba
Bee-Oyin
Cockroach -Ayan
Cricket-Irẹ
Crab -Akan
Housefly-Eṣinṣin/Eṣin
Gnats-Kokoro-Ojuọti
Wall-Gecko-Ọmọnle
Mouse-Eliri
Colt Young Horse-Agodongbo
Woodpecker-Akoko
Palm-Bird-Ẹga
Insect-Ipin
Red-Ant-Abonilejọpọn
Civet-cat-Ẹta
Zebra-Kẹtẹkẹtẹ-Abila -
Owl-Owiwi
Lice-Ina-Ori
Bed-bug-Idun
Jaguar-Amọtẹkun
Hind Abo-Agbọnrin
Cat-Ologinni
Turkey-Tolotolo
Swallow-Alapandẹdẹ
Kine -Abo-Malu
Stallion-Akọ-Ẹṣin
Gadfly-Iru, Eṣinṣin- Nla
Duck-Pẹpẹyẹ
Jackal-Akata

Ahonriwon or alegba is not 'aligator' it is monitor lizard
Giraffe is agunfon
Rhinoceros is agbamirere

Venerable612:


This is wrong.

First off the name Amotekun has nothing to do physical semblance as such.

It literally translates - “one who knows as Ekun”.

Again, you are wrong that Yoruba doesn’t have a transalation for Tiger - because our fathers didn’t have an encounter with them.

In fact Tiger has two Yoruba names. It could be called OGIDAN or EKUN. That’s why they say this provide - “Ogidan o ni se Barber, ki aja de be lo ge irun”.

And “KAKA KI KINIUN SAKAPO EKUN, OLODE A MAA RODE.“ Mind you Lion in Yoruba is Kiniun. And no one will ever compare a Lion with a Leopard. No animal can stand the Lion grit for grit amongst the Cat Family other than the Tiger; hence, the comparison.

Also, when Yorubas jokingly refer to someone as Ekun - it’s to represent that the person is a Strong man.

Thus,

Lion - Kiniun
Tiger - Ogidan and Ekun
Leopard - Amotekun
Cheetah - Owawa.

Hope this helps.

You still got it wrong...

The Yorubas can't give a name to an animal they never saw or interacted with?
Historically and scientifically, tigers left Africa some 2 million years ago..
So the so called Ekun we Yorubas referred to must have been either Cheetah or Leopard...
However since the animal in question is usually compared to the Lion, the Ekun must be Leopard cos they are in the same family with Lion (the 3 pantheras - lion, tiger and leopard)...
If Kiniun is Lion
Ekun is Leopard
Then Amotekun, a smaller Ekun will be the Cheetah

So who is throwing tantrums over this thread now?

https://www.nairaland.com/5646799/amotekun-son-thousand-fathers#86036619

.

AMOTEKUN2023:
Cobra - Sebe
Ox , Bull - Malu
Dog -Aja
Hedgehog -Ọya
Crocodile -Ọoni
Alligator -Ahọnrihọn
Pig -Ẹlẹdẹ
Vulture -Igun, Gunnugun, Gurugu, Akala
Wood-Carrier -Arigiṣẹgi
Hawks - Asa
Palm Bird -Ologiri
A species of Bird -Olofẹrẹ -
Sparrow -Ologoṣẹ
Peacock -Ọkin
Squirrel -Ọkẹrẹ
Rabbit -Ehoro
crickets -Okinrin
Pouch Rat -Okete
Wild Goat -Edu
A specie of Deer -Ekulu
Shark -Akurakuda
Rat/Mouse -Eku/Ekute
Earthworm -Ekolo
Sing Bird -Ẹyẹ-Orin
Partridge -Aparo
Horse -Ẹṣin
Donkey -Kẹtẹkẹtẹ
Camel -Rakunmi
Ass -Ibakasiẹ
Bat -Adan
Pelican -Ẹyẹ-Ofu
Water-bird -Osin
Dove -Adaba
Viper -Paramọlẹ
Sea-Gulls -Pẹju-pẹju
Yellow-haired Monkey -Sọmidọlọti/Oloyo
Sea-Bird -Yanja-yanja
Mosquito -Ẹfọn/Yanmu-yanmu
Raven -Ẹyẹ-Iwo
Snail-Igbin/Aginniṣọ
Freshwater Snail-Iṣawuru
Stay - Igala
Steer -Ẹgbọọrọ-Akọ Malu
Trout -Ẹja
Buffalo -Ẹfọn
Monkey-Ọbọ .
Ape -Ẹdun
Lizard-Alangba, -
Lobster-Alakasa
Boa-Constrictor Ere
Boar Ẹlẹdẹ-Igbo,
Gorilla, Baboon -Inaki, Inoki, Iro
Chimpanzee - Elegbede
Phython-Constrictor -Ojola
Electric Fish -Ojigi
Scorpion -Ojogan/Akeekee
Toad -Opolo
Antelope -Egbin
Tick/Flee -Eegbọn
Hippopotamus -Erinmi
Rhinoceros -Ẹranko bi Imado.
Reynard (Fox) -Kọlọkọlọ
Hyena/Wolf -Ikoko
Giraffe -Agbanrere
Cow Abo-Malu
Crab -Akan
Wild Pigeon-Oriri
Porcupine -Oorẹ, Eerẹ, Ojigbọn
Black-Ants -Tanpẹpẹ
Centipede -Tanisanko
Millipede -Ọkun
Frog -Konko
Chicken-Oromọ-Adiẹ
Nocturnal Animal-Ajao
Hound-Aja-Ọdẹ -
Elephant-Erin/Ajanaku
Sheep-Aguntan
Ram-Agbo
Woodcock -Agbe
White-feathered Bird -Lekeleke
Chamelon Ọga, Alagẹmọ
Crane-Bird -Akọ -
Parrot -Odidẹrẹ
Ostrich -Ogongo
White-Ant Ikan, Ikamudu
Tortoise-Ijapa
Tiger-Ẹkun
Lion-Kiniun
Pigeon-Ẹyẹle
Pig/Swine Ẹlẹdẹ
Eagle-Idi .
Guinea Fowl-Awo
Guinea Fowl-Ẹtu
Guinea Pig-Ẹmọ-Ile
Spider-Alantakun
Butterfly-Labalaba
Bee-Oyin
Cockroach -Ayan
Cricket-Irẹ
Crab -Akan
Housefly-Eṣinṣin/Eṣin
Gnats-Kokoro-Ojuọti
Wall-Gecko-Ọmọnle
Mouse-Eliri
Colt Young Horse-Agodongbo
Woodpecker-Akoko
Palm-Bird-Ẹga
Insect-Ipin
Red-Ant-Abonilejọpọn
Civet-cat-Ẹta
Zebra-Kẹtẹkẹtẹ-Abila -
Owl-Owiwi
Lice-Ina-Ori
Bed-bug-Idun
Jaguar-Amọtẹkun
Hind Abo-Agbọnrin
Cat-Ologinni
Turkey-Tolotolo
Swallow-Alapandẹdẹ
Kine -Abo-Malu
Stallion-Akọ-Ẹṣin
Gadfly-Iru, Eṣinṣin- Nla
Duck-Pẹpẹyẹ

Jackal-Akata

^^^^^
^^^^^
A very NICE list but...

Akata means Panther [i.e, The black panther or black leopard]

A black panther is the melanistic colour variant of any Panthera, particularly of
the leopard (P. pardus) in Asia and Africa, and the jaguar (P. onca) in the Americas.
===> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther

Konquest:

^^^^^
^^^^^
A very NICE list but...

Akata means Panther [i.e, The black panther or black leopard]

A black panther is the melanistic colour variant of any Panthera, particularly of
the leopard (P. pardus) in Asia and Africa, and the jaguar (P. onca) in the Americas.
===> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther

Which one is Black Leopard now?

berbs:

Which one is Black Leopard now?

^^^^^^
LOL...

@berbs

Ok... Click on the Wikipedia link above or here
==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther
to see the dark-haired Black Leopards of Asia
and Africa. In America it is usually Black Jaguars
that are called Panthers.

Black LEOPARDS and Black JAGUARS
arise due to genetic variations just like
we have ALBINISM in almost all species
of animals... including white people
who living with albinism.

These[black leopards and black jaguars]
are generically refered to as BLACK PANTHERS
from the PANTHERA FAMILY or CAT FAMILY.

Below is a picture of the black leopard
attached to my post... which is called "Akata"
in the Yoruba language... and is also the symbol
of the iconic African-American Civil Rights
organisation called the "Black Panther Party"
of the 1960s and 1970s that Nigerians of Yoruba
ancestry in Nigeria and the United States refered
to as "Akata"!

==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party


Third, Akata is also used in Yoruba language as a metaphor
for any person of African ancestry who has lived abroad
for a long time especially in the U.S and UK, etc. Yorubas
in the UK proudly refered to themselves as Akata and even
parents and Yorubas in Nigeria used the word Akata
as a word of prestige... meaning that someone has
travelled abroad for studies or lived abroad!

Contrary to some fake news/misleading Youtube videos posted
online especially on Wikipedia and some African-American fora,
the word Akata has never been used by the Yoruba people
[who number over 45 million people in Nigeria alone... not counting
those in Benin Republic, Togo and the larger Diaspora]as a
derogatory word for African-Americans. Akata also applies to
Yorubas and non-Yorubas of Nigerian and African origin who have
lived abroad for long. The metaphoric opposite of "Akata" or black
panther is "Ologbo"or the domestic cat/house cat. So Nigerians who
live on African soil are metaphorically-speaking "Ologbos" since
the black panther is not domesticated but lives in the jungle
or "abroad."

Many languages around the world including English include
metaphors for communicating... i.e., if you say a man or woman
has a "heart of gold" it is a metaphor for a man or woman who
is kind-hearted.



I hope this clears up the initial confusion?
All the best.

Konquest:

^^^^^^
LOL...

@berbs

Ok... Click on the Wikipedia link above to
see the dark-haired Black Leopards
of Asia and Africa. In America it is
usually Black Jaguars that are called
Panthers.

Black LEOPARDS and Black JAGUARS
arise due to genetic variations just like
we have ALBINISM in almost all species
of animals... including white people
who are living with albinism.

These[black leopards and black jaguars]
generically refred to as BLACK PANTHERS
of the PANTHERA FAMILY or CAT FAMILY.

Below is a picture of the black leopard
attached to my post... which is called "Akata"
in the Yoruba language... and is also the symbol
of the iconic Africa-American Civil Rights
organisation called the "Black Panther Party"
of the 1960s and 1970s that Nigerians of Yoruba
ancestry in Nigeria and the United States refered
to as "Akata"!

==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

I hope this clears up the initial confusion?
All the best.

This is news...

let us teach you what you don't know .... lion is kiniun tiger is ekun leopard is amotekun cheetah is owawa Yoruba nation is inform....

I'm sick and tired of hearing the name Ọ̀wàwà in relation to this discussion about the big cats.

For the umpteenth time, Ọ̀wàwà is not even anywhere close to any of the animals being discussed here.

Ọ̀wàwà is a relatively very small-sized semi-wild animal in the same levels as animals like Ewúdù (aka Ewújù ).

One doesn't have to go deep into the wild to encounter an Ọ̀wàwà.

An Ọ̀wàwà could literally stray into your kitchen if you live in a relatively new site --- I have seen this happen.

The Yorubas beleive that an Ọ̀wàwà would by itself stray into an area inhabited by humans (so that it can be killed) if it had unfortunately eaten a leaf with a hole in it.

Ọ̀wàwà is nowhere close to any of the big cats --- Not by any stretch of the imagination. It's not even a cat to begin with, neither is it big.

Ọ̀wàwà is an entirely different thing. Let's be guided!

This is very simple; check out the pictures of leopard compared to that of a cheetah. Which of these is a symbol/ image of the SWSN "Amotekun"? This answers it all.

God bless you.

Zeinymira:
[/b]

Ipob goals is different from Amotekun. They do not share the same vision. Ipob wants it's own country but Amotekun is all about protecting the Yorubas

I AM SUPPORTING AMOTEKUN ON THE BASES OF GETTING BSS.

DONT MAKE ME CHANGE MY MIND.

hammerU:


I AM SUPPORTING AMOTEKUN ON THE BASES OF GETTING BSS.

DONT MAKE ME CHANGE MY MIND.

Lol see this one o . No one gives a damn about you or your mind.

Venerable612:


This is wrong.

First off the name Amotekun has nothing to do physical semblance as such.

It literally translates - “one who knows as Ekun”.

Again, you are wrong that Yoruba doesn’t have a transalation for Tiger - because our fathers didn’t have an encounter with them.

In fact Tiger has two Yoruba names. It could be called OGIDAN or EKUN. That’s why they say this provide - “Ogidan o ni se Barber, ki aja de be lo ge irun”.

And “KAKA KI KINIUN SAKAPO EKUN, OLODE A MAA RODE.“ Mind you Lion in Yoruba is Kiniun. And no one will ever compare a Lion with a Leopard. No animal can stand the Lion grit for grit amongst the Cat Family other than the Tiger; hence, the comparison.

Also, when Yorubas jokingly refer to someone as Ekun - it’s to represent that the person is a Strong man.

Thus,

Lion - Kiniun
Tiger - Ogidan and Ekun
Leopard - Amotekun
Cheetah - Owawa.

Hope this helps.

OH boy you are so misleading with your descriptive, if I was your lecturer you will not pass my class for years, I'll go for CHEETER as DEN... primarily explained simple and reasonably, you're just making flimsy narrative, that folklore is just too perfect to save your all your baseless show OFF. 'A SUNKUN PANI BI AMOTEKUN ' BROS PARK WELL YOU DON'T HAVE ANY POINT, JUST MISLEADING PEOPLE.

Demzlent:
The launching of operation amotekun has exposed the fact that we yorubas are losing touch with our language to the extent that our leaders are calling leopard amotekun.
So I am taking this opportunity to educate my fellow yorubas
Many of us believe that tiger is ekun, leopard is amotekun,this is wrong.
Tiger is an animal that is not found in africa,Yoruba land included,so our fore fathers did not come in contact with it,so they couldn't have given a name to it.
The correct translation is
Leopard - ekun
Cheetah - amotekun
Amotekun means like 'ekun' because if you look at leopard and cheetah,they look alike only that leopard is bigger. Tiger doesn't look like these two , it has stripes not spots like the two
There is a Yoruba proverb that says ''asunkun pani bi amotekun' this is because of the stripes below the eyes of the cheetah
Thanks

Thanks very much for this simple and logical lecture, it can't be anything else, if you're my student ill pass you A.

godspeed:


It's not that simple.

First, you have to look at the origin of the Yoruba language and how it has developed over the centuries.

No doubts, contact with foreigners either thru trade, slavery or colonialism would have had a large influence on the Yoruba language.( Much like the English language is heavily influenced by Latin and French) .

That the yorubas never saw tigers does not mean they never heard about it or didn't at least get a description.

Remember, one of the stories about oduduwa is that he came to Ife from Arabia haven fled the peninsula when Mohammad the prophet was ridding Arabia of idolaters, infact, oduduwa brought the IFA religion from Arabia.

No doubts, oduduwa arrival in Ile Ife would have had an effect on the local language as a lot of new words would have been introduced into the Yoruba lexicon.

So as regards' Ekun' , it could have been a borrowed word from oduduwa's language, or a coinage from the description of the animal as given to them by oduduwa.

Remember, Arabia is neighbors with India, so the tiger will not be strange to them.

BTW, amotekun means Leopard, cheetahs also not native to west Africa.

Am here to counter the word Muhammed was chasing idolatry out of Arabia for Odùduwà to come to Yorùbá land and Odùduwà was the one that brought Ifá to Yorùbá.
First the part of Muhammed was is a scope from Islam to belittle the Yorùbá religion and that of Ifá, is Orunmila that brought ifá to Yorùbá land.

supereagle:

What of Ijakumo?

Jackal

TAO11:


If you had cared to read my comment in context you would have understood my point.

My point is basically as follows:

1. That Owawa is NOT Cheetah. Not even close to it.

2. That Owawa is "semi-wild". Meaning not a wild animal as the likes of Lion, Tiger, Jaguar, Leopard, etc.

Now, I beleive I have broken it down enough for you to get my gist.

Moreover, a regular pig will "eat your balls for breakfast if you slip up". That doesn't make them "very wild" animals though.

Owawa cannot be honey badger, is a jackal dog family.

cbrass:


I will school you in Yoruba history, you know absolutely next to nothing. Can you explain with facts the movement of Yorubas to North and south america o and I hope you are not trying to mention slavery,

Please í need to know

aywhy93:


Lol... I'll give you the project topic I did back then in school (in Yoruba) and you wont be able to read the title, let alone comprehend the content. I wont waste my knowledge on you. Come to Institute of African Studies in UI and learn Yoruba. Back to the topic, does it come to your thinking that whatever caused the movements of Yoruba, it doesn't change the fact that they've roamed enough places to have seen a tiger which you claimed they never saw to give it that name, Ekun..?

Please teach me Yoruba history