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Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Ikennablue(m): 10:16am On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l:please can u show the working of the number one question?? |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by dprpikin: 10:18am On Apr 18, 2020 |
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Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by PERSONALGUY1(m): 10:31am On Apr 18, 2020 |
Check out my solution
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Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by PERSONALGUY1(m): 10:40am On Apr 18, 2020 |
Question 2 solution
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Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 10:44am On Apr 18, 2020 |
One of the winners that got half of the answer will post it here. Ikennablue: |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 10:46am On Apr 18, 2020 |
In one of the instructions I posted, I mentioned that you should show the workings. Ikennablue: |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 10:48am On Apr 18, 2020 |
You didn't mention the use of the wolfram alpha program. Secondly, if you used it as you claim and it gives only one solution then you don't understand what the lambert W function is. Mathscum: |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 10:57am On Apr 18, 2020 |
On the contrary, numerical approximation methods like newton-raphson will give you the two correct answers(with some help on how continuous monotonic functions work). In my case, I was trying the graphical method and I found the first derivative of the function f(x)=2^2x-8x and equated it to zero to get the value of x which is 1.264. Then I found f(1.264) which gave a negative value of -4.34. This gave me some other information-The function has two roots which lie on the left and right hand side of x=1.264. I also found the y intercept by f(0) which gave 1. I abandoned the more complicated graphical solution in favour of the easier numerical approximation since I have known the nature of the function.The newton-raphson's method gives the two roots i.e x=0.155 and x=2. dprpikin: |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Loris576(m): 11:01am On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l:Ok no problem sir Just look at it and check if the solution is a good one |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by dprpikin: 11:08am On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l: Ok. I'll try the graphical method with the little I know. |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 11:12am On Apr 18, 2020 |
Better. I'm also completing that graphical solution now and may post it here if people want. dprpikin: |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by dprpikin: 11:18am On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l: Pls, do post it. Personally, I like to learn, relearn or even unlearn, if the need be. |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 11:21am On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l:I did they graphical to get my solution too. Because I don't have paid wolfram alpha., That's I I got my two values for my solution The constant value of omega of that function gave one solution. So I use graph yo evaluate and zoom. Anyway it was a nice challenge. What I want to learn from you is how to get the omega value without program |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 11:27am On Apr 18, 2020 |
Where is the graph?Wolfram alpha is free. There are other tools like mathcad that is not a program but a calculation software you can use to arrive at the answer too. Mrshape: |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by DesChyko: 11:28am On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l: Okay. Hopefully we get the graph solution posted too. Thanks. |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 11:43am On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l:OK I will send it here |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 12:22pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
For those of you I have contacted to send your account numbers and haven't sent , I need it urgently as I may be forced to move on to the next fastest person with a correct answer if you don't respond. Please check your emails urgently. |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 12:34pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l:
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Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 12:37pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
This is not it. I'll post it shortly as I have completed the graphical one.[quote author=Mrshape post=88578458][/quote] |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 12:40pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l: The last digit 3 I got it by looking and the number of small boxes before the red line I found out is 1/3 of the the line between two thick lines |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 12:40pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l:OK let me see yours |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 12:43pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l:I also used this
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Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 12:50pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l:Those are my graphs I used I will like to see yours |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 1:48pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Mrshape:
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Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 1:51pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Yeah, these are used to obtain the zeros of the func4ion before plotting it on a single curve. I have posted the solution here. I will not post the newton-raphson one because I have already said one of the winners will post that. Mrshape: |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 1:56pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
[quote author=smeag0l post=88580991][/quote] Alright but how were you areble to read that graph to 4 dp? |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 1:59pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
smeag0l:Alright let's wait for them, Although I can do Newton very well. But I don't usually consider it as a full numerical value |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by Mrshape: 2:01pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
[quote author=smeag0l post=88580991][/quote] Snap this paper again it is not clear |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 2:10pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Here are the winners and the time stamp showing when they sent in their responses. For those of you that sent me mails twice, I did't pick you because I mentioned earlier that it attracts disqualification. I initially intended to pick 5 winners but had to pick one more person.This didnt follow the rule of the fastest but the one who came close to answering question 1.
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Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 2:11pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
More.... For those of you who have been credited, you will get a mail from me shortly asking you to post your solutions here. Please do so as it will help others learn. Thank you.
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Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 2:16pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
Cos I already knew the approximate solution, no thanks to numerical methods like Newton-Raphson's Mrshape: |
Re: Mathematics Give Away Challenge For Geniuses by smeag0l(m): 2:17pm On Apr 18, 2020 |
That's clear enough.What is it you can't see on it? Mrshape: |
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