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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 1:43pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: The beginning of Creation is a creation. That's why it marked its starting.
Insult ! Show me where God the Father Is called this ? I think this thread is nearing it's end. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 1:45pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
" Jesus is the beginning of Creation " freshboi88 .. It is finished !!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 1:46pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
paltielx: Please show me where Jesus is mentioned.....quote it here. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by UceeGod: 1:47pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Barristter07:The KJV isn't wrong but people like you who misinterprete it. Consider John 10:30 Jesus Christ is the Father in ESSENCE. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 1:48pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
The person God created first is the beginning of his creations ... Simple English . You can close the thread already. It has served its purpose. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 1:49pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
UceeGod:Na simple English hard you like this . since you agree with KJV. What do you call whom God created first ? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 1:52pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Barristter07: Your case is like that of a muslim that says he can prove that Jesus is dead. Then he opens the scripture and turns to the portion that says "And Jesus died on the cross". The his arguement goes like....He died abi e no die?... Jesus died, Jesus died...he is dead. There is nothing u can tell me....look at it in the bible. It says Jesus died. When someone now says oga read further....he says I don't care, he died that's my own. That's exactly what u r doing 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 1:52pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: 1 Cor1:24,30. You can quote the texts here from your Bible. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 1:53pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
beginning noun UK /bɪˈɡɪn.ɪŋ/ US /bɪˈɡɪn.ɪŋ/ A2 [ C usually singular, U ] the first part of something or the start of something: In this case , first PART of Creation . That's Cambridge dictionary Is this too hard to understand ? |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 1:54pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: Are you serious at all , You admit Jesus is the beginning of Creation . simple English .. Whom God created first . beginning noun UK /bɪˈɡɪn.ɪŋ/ US /bɪˈɡɪn.ɪŋ/ A2 [ C usually singular, U ] the first part of something or the start of something: Jesus is the first part of creation.... Receive sense |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by paltielx: 1:55pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88:colosians 1:15 mentions Jesus as firstborn of God and this place also speaks of firstborn of God so the firstborn in verse 22 is Jesus |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 1:56pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Barristter07: No are the one who needs to open your heart. Now Learn, let me school u The Greek word translated "beginning" here is the word "arche." Arche certainly can mean "beginning" as in "the first in series," 1 which is how the Jehovah's Witness understands it here. But it can also mean "beginning" in the sense of the "origin" or "source" of a thing, 2 or can carry the sense of "the one with whom a process begins." 3 It even can mean "ruler" or "authority," 4 from which we get words like "archbishop", "archangel", or "arch enemy." In Greek philosophy, the "arche" was the eternal absolute from which all created things are derived, 5 from which we get words like "archetype". So it is not enough merely to note that Jesus IS the "beginning of the creation of God." |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 2:00pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: ◄ John 5:26 ► "For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself." Bros, Jesus Christ "the firstborn of every creature" has spoken. His God and Father (John 20:17. Rev3:5,12) granted life to Jesus Christ before the creation of the universe. Proverbs 8:22-30. 1Cor1:24,30. Please read the holy Scriptures with insight. Hebrews 1:1-2. Shalom. |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 2:00pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: Arch Angel is also an Angel , arch enemy is also an enemy , copy and paste will not kill you . can u see how what you typed above expose you Yakata . likewise arch creation is a creation. And let me repeat this again ,, Jesus is not the source or originator . the Bible says its the Father. So stop using that here, you are sounding silly already |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 2:03pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
paltielx: I said show me where Jesus is mentioned in proverbs u are mentioning 1 col 1:15 ...where is the correlation? firstborn means first among other brethrens by the virtue of his death and resurrection He is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. (Colossians 1:18) In fact, Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. (1 Corinthians 15:20) Don't just quote one verse and read your meaning to it.....pray that the Holy Spirit illuminates your mind 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 2:04pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: It says first BORN of all creations .... First that God born . he was created . When God born, he creates . |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 2:05pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: Go preach and teach what you know about Jesus to your neighbours! No wahala! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 2:05pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Barristter07: You have proven that u lack ability to understand. In essence beginning can mean source of life, ruler of God creation and there are other verses tht support this. You need to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal saviour |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 2:06pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Maximus69: Hahaha...are u accepting defeat...I have exposed your religion. Jesus created Jesus |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 2:08pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: Great! So as one of his dedicated followers, go preach and teach what you know! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 2:08pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: The FATHER , from whom ALL things are Jesus is not the source of life. Beginning of creation means what it means , Gods first creation. Liarrrrrrrrrrrr |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 2:10pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: Coming from someone who admitted Jesus is actually the beginning of Gods creation. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 2:12pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Barristter07: Jesus is the firstborn by virtue of his death and resurrection Rev 1:4 Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne, and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. (Revelation 1:4) |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 2:13pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Barristter07: Of course Jesus is the source of all God's creature. Everything was created through Jesus.so Jesus himself cannot be created |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by paltielx: 2:14pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88:So even wi h the term 'firstborn' you are quoting all other first to me. That place calls Jesus firstborn of all creation. Remember that God was not born but has existed from all eternity. As for the quoting, instead of quoting all other irrelevant verses to the topic i will quote a pricise verse for you |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 2:15pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: Rev 1:4 says firstborn from the dead. Col 1:15 says firstborn of all creation Firstborn from the dead was actually dead at a point. First born of creation was actually created too. How was Jesus first to be BORN OF CREATION ? Like I said you are sounding silly already 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 2:16pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: Bros, The process of creation began with the creation of Jesus Christ, the first in the series of creation.. Thereafter, angels , the universe (celestial bodies,oceans,rivers plants, animals and finally, Man) Series film has many episodes,but one main title. In this Biblical series,the title is Creation. Jesus Christ even said he ORIGINATED from God. Where did Freshboi88 ORIGINATE from ? Bros, this one no be rocket science.... Trinity is a man made SCAM, a FRAUD. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 2:16pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88: Jesus is not the source , did all things came from Jesus or the Father ? Liarrrrrrrrrrr 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 2:16pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Barristter07: He wants to be a Christian nah! Jesus truthfully exposed false religious ideas of his time, but he went from door to door, house to house and town to town, teaching the truth that he knows. He did not hide his face behind any media, he preached and taught people face to face. So let Pastor freshboi88 go out there and do the same! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 2:17pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
freshboi88:Through is not source , Source is FROM WHOM ALL THINGS ARE . Jesus is not the source , did all things came from Jesus or the Father ? Liarrrrrrrrrrr 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 2:23pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Barristter07: People like him will start cursing their neighbours who question them about the gibberish they're spewing, but on social media they want to preach what even their fellow Churchgoer will start questioning them for! Let him do and preach what he knew about Jesus in his neighbourhood! |
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88: 2:23pm On Apr 21, 2020 |
Barristter07: NLT: "The Word gave life to everything that was created, and his life brought light to everyone." How can the Word give life...if he is not doesn't have life in him?... U guys should be wise for ones nah |
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