Mafia4life:

BB users where are you all? We the symbian users dont want you to hate your fone. We just want to let you know how and why you should buy a phone. Don't just jump into an expensive piece of shyt just for buying sake. Andriod is an xpensive fone that worth its price, symbian is an average phone ( though there are some High-End symbian higher than some android or Iphone ) but for BB, that is one silly phone that don't even worth its price. Honestly, i can't pay 12K for BB Tour.
BB users, who will denial this fact below.
Low Battery in BB = No BB service, No Network, No Wifi.
Interface sucks,
Games are Fuucckked up,
Camera is very clear,
BB service is lovely ( with unlimited brandwith )
Trackpad is offensive,
Push service not good as Nokia Email Client ( No argument ).
Poor hardware features,
BB without BB service = An expensive Mp3 with GSM Network.
BB messenger not interesting as Nimbuzz ( Symbian, Android and PC version only ).
Switching on phone when battery is replaced is like booting a Pentium 2 computer of 32MB RAM loaded with Window 7 in 5GB Harddisk.
BB = Overhyped Motorola L6.
Honestly I was once a user of BB bold and BB TOUR.
It is out of experience i reviewed this.

Symbian = PalmTop
Battery Life Great.
Entertainment Great,
office use very reliable,
email push believable,
discoveries very interesting,
softwares are very much available,
Interface better than BB
Hanging problem is a major bug ( fixed when firmware is updated but not 100% solution )
Browser fully integrated like PC using Opera 10.1)
Hardware is extremely Rich. I nor fit type again.

u2 1 day:

well if you were trying to woo me to buy a bb, i certainly am not impressed, and you certainly did not do a bb justice with all that write up.

trying to sell a phone to me based on what, i can download endlessly, i used a bb storm2 for 24hrs, after subscribing for bis monthly plan, i still remember how many times the network failed to connect, and how i had to keep going back to the host routing table, over and again so that i can browse, and after a while it would just stop connecting, i could not even visit the app world.

men forget that ish jare, i still remember the hype of them slim motorola phones, it fizzled out, and so will bb, and its started already with this thread.

aze:

Nice business presentation from an authorised dealer. I can't waste my resources buying a Rolls Royce because of one golden ashtray in it.

If l nid to chat l better get on my Handler and Cast applications. They are better dat way with Fr33 VOIP

u2 1 day:

well if you were trying to woo me to buy a bb, i certainly am not impressed, and you certainly did not do a bb justice with all that write up.

trying to sell a phone to me based on what, i can download endlessly, i used a bb storm2 for 24hrs, after subscribing for bis monthly plan, i still remember how many times the network failed to connect, and how i had to keep going back to the host routing table, over and again so that i can browse, and after a while it would just stop connecting, i could not even visit the app world.

men forget that ish jare, i still remember the hype of them slim motorola phones, it fizzled out, and so will bb, and its started already with this thread.

TCD:

LOL. Honestly all I can say is bro, You bought a blackberry for The wrong Reasons. It's No surprise why many Nigerians are crying. RIM's base is not to produce high-end, entertainment, high-powered hardware n sophisticated and Gamers phones. Their Mainstay is BUSINESS users. Anyone who jumps on the bandwagon not knowing what to expect is frankly a misguided individual. You looking for the blackberry to play high graphics, accelerometer Ps2 emulator games then you are a capital JOKER as you don't even know what a blackberry is for. It's just as bizarre as complaining why GM doesn't make Hummer fuel efficient as a Toyota. Is the Hummer brand designed for fuel efficiency?

Even you can't deny it, Blackberry does its job 100% well. Go to the length and breath of the world, those who still complain about the way you do but who really NEED the services blackberry provide, CAN'T still drop it, coz it does its job WELL. They might have other phones but they STILL keep their blackberries.

As for your claim Nokia email is better than the BB email, that's just untrue. The several minutes boot-up you complained about as I heard is necessary for Security, so is the so-called long bluetooth protocol of the BB. People who want to use the bb for social entertainment and the likes might find these features terrible but Business users who understand the Need for SECURITY of their data in these days of industrial espionage, hacking and spying where a stolen idea could cost u billions. Even TERRORISTS and Jihadists use blackberries. Example the Mumbai bombers used blackberries, why, because of the security. That is why countries like India and Saudi Arabia threatened to suspend Blackberry services. That's how secure RIM servers are.

Also, the Low battery =No network Function can be disabled. It's just a power saving mechanism. You can disable it in the settings if you wish.

Till tomorrow, RIM will continue making sales. The bb has always been popular in the business world. In fact the reason why it has become a Fad amongst the rest is because of the relatively Cheap BIS internet fee which in recent times attracted many social-networking hungry teenagers and youths. They all jumped on the wagon expecting the bb to perform miracles. RIM has even tried sef to accomodate them by bringing out some models with better entertainment features but frankly I don't see them trying too hard. They'll rather concentrate on their base which might be useless to you but GOLD to others (the core customers)who need that service. Isn't that the beauty of capitalism, there is freedom of choice, you people should try and go to whatever platform suits your needs.

I enjoy my bb coz it does what it does very well. The cheap BIS is a killer. I use a nokia too but I can't get Unlimited internet at 2.8K on a nokia. Daily I download in excess of 600MB. The BB has no Radio but I was able to solve that with an internet radio app where I stream stations from around the world including Nigeria. I know a guy here who downloads in Gigabytes everyday on 3G. I saw him download 15GB in one week and I no fit shout. To do that 15GB on a nokia or Iphone will cost u about 20K. I tether to my laptop and browse as much as I want all for 2.8-3K. And The prices will Surely drop further.

So you guys can make noise on this thread till 100 pages it does not matter what matters at the end of the day is simple economics. BIS rates will continue to DROP which means CHEAPER internet connection fee. People love the idea of CHEAP so it's inevitable more people will buy the blackberries to connect. The GSM Networks too love the BB because of its bandwidth saving capacity so they will continue pushing it out there. Companies/ coporations love the BB and distribute it to their staff coz it does a job for them excellently. More money for RIM, More money for the Networks, better value for the consumers (including companies) who really need the BB services, the only wailers and moaners are those who don't need the bb services but just bought one to feel among.

More bb's are going to Hit the streets soon. You guys should be prepared to shout more.

O.michael.O:

who told you we symbian phone users can't download at unlimited rate for free? No even for #2.8k

denzel2009:

TCD bro, you've got too much time on your hands. They will continue bashing BB cos in Nigeria, information security is nothing to us.

O.michael.O:

who told you we symbian phone users can't download at unlimited rate for free? No even for #2.8k

O.michael.O:

who told you we symbian phone users can't download at unlimited rate for free? No even for #2.8k

aze:

Tell them. Unrestricted, limitless number of Downloads. These post paid bb user are just consoling themselues for the frustrating crapberry services. And to crown these blunders, they made the mistake of wasting money on a Hummer because of the Ashtray on board.

frgy_:

@TCD
Well said , you defended your device well.
But the fact still remains that in OVERALL performance a BB is a mediocre device . It should not be called a smart phone.
And am not just saying , I own one , and I also own a S60v5 device .
The only thing RIM did ingeniously is starting the push and the "security" thingy early. We now have devices that do all that equally well and perhaps better .BB already created a status symbol though

WackyJ1:

The summary of TCD's Long winding post is that bb has security and cheap BIS.
It's not only RIM that knows the value of security, Nokia, android and iphone have as much security if not more than bb. If you remove the social networking hungry teens that use black berry because of the cheap Bis then the fan base will reduce a lot . bb is not the ultimate business phone for business people when there are nokia and others so i'm not even sure of bbs business user base.

u2 1 day:

if the bb is the only secure device on earth then i guess sales figures of symbian, iphone, android is just a lie, or 80% of the world phone buying population is just not smart enough? hmmm.

Even world hackers dont use bb's cuz it just aint smart enough for them, and hackers seriously pride in their information security a lot more than you think. you need not try to console yourself by wanting to make the bb sound like a great device, its just average, and in many instances mediocre.

[/quote]b needs to return to drawing board and up the ante, cuz they dont make the list.
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kenis:

@ TCD
on Business
who told you you do business more than others. You keept harping on business as if to say you invented business. BB is not the only business phone. Nokia will suprise you with thier variety of business devices which many people have been using to make millions. Don't blame Nokia for your past business woes.
Security:
Are you a scammer or a terrorist?   there are varieties of phones that will give you 'run for security'. You are probably been blinded by your so called RIM. Ask people pls, and they would help you out.    
What's your point again?
Ok cheap:
we are not poor bros! We are not complaining. We can pay anything to enjoy ourselves.
please do you have any other point of using crab?  

TCD:

I really don't understand you. Could you please give me a standard definition of a smart phone? Why does the bb not qualify as one? In what aspect of business function does the BB not meet up? I have stated here the BB is a Business device and deos that function PERFECTLY. Everything else na just jara.

frgy_:

Business business business
other things don't matter ?
All I know is my BB aint as smart as my nokia
When I read things peeps here on NL do with their Nokias  I be like "dammm , my symbian can do that ? , and even before I install the app, someone else drops another ,and am like "fork me ! My Nokia can do that !!!"
A smart phone should have the WOW effect , but never seen anything that's gat my jaw dropping about a BB

It has its Advs , it pushes well , can't take that from it , and its secure, but there should be more to a smart phone, don't you think ?

u2 1 day:

@TCD
why didnt you comment on the fact i raised about a bb not being on the list of top 10 phones on both pcworld and techrader, isnt that clear enough that the phone aint worth the salt

Plus i never said and hacker was going to use a bb or symbian as a console, an hacker surely would have to be mobile and his choice of device isnt a bb cuz its lame. plain and simple.

if you read this entire thread again its plain to see which device is the smart one.

TCD:

You really haven't said anything. I'll advice you too to look up how the BB network works , the security parameters (security can mean many things) and why it is suitable for business then you can make an informed opinion.

kenis:

Blackberry handsets were designed for
business customers. That is their target
market. This means high functionality for
email and multi-tasking.
Nokia handsets, specifically Symbian OS
smart phones, were also designed with
professionals in mind.
But in all honestly, to avoid electronic theft/
vandalism against you there are a couple of
simple rules to follow,
1. Use difficult to guess passwords,
containing letters, numbers, and symbols
where possible.
2. Only use the push email client that comes
with the phone. Blackberry have their own
integrated email service, as do Nokia in the
form of Ovi-mail.
3. Never use bluetooth. Not ever. It simply
isn ’t safe. With a laptop, some simple
software, and an internet dongle, people
can scan the local area and gain access to
any cell that has bluetooth enabled.
4. When browsing the internet on a cell
phone you must ensure that the browser
you ’re using has something called ‘end to
end encryption’. This means that the site you
look at is encrypted at the point of origin,
and then de-crypted at your cell. This
ensures that no-one online can see what
your looking at, or what you ’re typing. Two
mobile browsers that use end2end
encryption are ‘Opera Mobile’ and ‘UCWeb’.
So, yeah, In my opinion you can’t go far
wrong with Blackberry or Nokia (symbian)
for secure business purposes. Personally i ’d
recommend Nokia. They’ve been in the
business a bit longer, and their range of
handsets is slightly ahead in design terms.

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