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jiggaz:
Haaa

ichuka:
I tire for these pple.
Is predestinated not in the bible?
Was Calvin one of the author of the bible?

Ubenedictus:
ferisidowu, 5solas, an2elect2, you guys have been teaching Calvin's doctrine of predestination, I asked you guys do you also agree with his doctrine on baptism?

you guys have refused to answer.


what says you?

jiggaz:
Believers, see Romans 5:20: "The law was given so that sin would increase. But where sin increased, God’s grace increased even more."

Paul preached the gospel as it is written above and the religious people of his time falsely accused him of preaching that it is okay to sin because of grace. See this in Romans 3:8- "Some people are actually trying to put such words in our mouths, claiming that we go around saying, “The more evil we do, the more good God does, so let’s just do it!” That’s pure slander, as I’m sure you’ll agree."

But how is it that "where sin increased, God’s grace increased even more?" What does this mean?

We see how God's grace increased even more in the life of Peter. He boasted that he would not deny Christ, rose to Jesus' defence in Gethsemane and even cut off someone's ear, ready to fight for Christ! But in the end, he denied Christ...three times!... with swearing and cursing...and the first time upon being accused by a servant girl. The arm of flesh will fail. Imagine Peter remembering Christ's words in Matt. 10:33- "but whoever denies Me before men, I also will deny before My Father who is in heaven." How fallen and lost he must have felt.

But check out what happened on resurrection morning in Mark 17- the women who were going to anoint Jesus' body were shocked to see an angel in the tomb,

6 "but the angel said, “Don’t be alarmed. You are looking for Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He isn’t here! He is risen from the dead! Look, this is where they laid His body. 7 Now go and tell His disciples, including Peter, that Jesus is going ahead of you to Galilee. You will see Him there, just as He told you before He died.”

See "go and tell His disciples, including Peter..." Why the special mention of Peter's name and not that of any other disciple? It is because "But where sin increased, God’s grace increased even more." All of the disciples fled and went into hiding, but the one who many of us see as having "failed the most" among them got a special mention.

Did you know that Peter, the one who denied Christ three times, was also the first of all of the remaining disciples to see the resurrected Jesus Christ? We see this in Luke 24:34 and 1 Corinthians 15:5. Super-abounding Grace.

Then came the Day of Pentecost– Peter who had been so scared of being associated with our Saviour after His arrest, who lied upon being accused by a simple servant girl and then two more times, the one who many of us see as "failed the most" among the disciples, preached a sermon (in public!) that got 3,000 people saved. No fear of the teachers of religious law and Pharisees who were still out to get Jesus' followers. Through the power of Christ in him, the dead were raised to life and the sick were healed! Today, Peter who denied Jesus three times is regarded as a pillar of the early church!

This is the effect of super-abounding Grace. It swallows up sin and transforms us from Simon (meaning Reed, easily swayed by the elements) to Peter (meaning Rock- bold and unshakable in Christ.) Truly, "...But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more," Not just one batch of grace; it continues forever: "From His fullness we have all received, grace in place of grace," John 1:16.

Believers, believe right. "Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound...." The Ten Commandments that many are struggling to obey in order to get into God's good graces is designed to make the offence (sin) abound. Sin multiplies when one tries to get right with God by obeying the Ten Commandments.

We see this again in Romans 7:14- "For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under law but under grace." But many who profess Christ have this backwards.

Believers, only the sinless blood of the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ can make us righteous in God's sight. Depend on your own obedience to the law to get right with God and sin will increase. Rely on the obedience of Jesus Christ (Grace personified) to make you righteous (Romans 5:19) and you will not continue to live in sin. See Romans 5:17-

"For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)"

Receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness and you will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ, including reign over sin.

http://rightbelieving101..com.ng/2018/01/but-where-sin-abounded-grace-abounded.html?m=1

Ferisidowu:
wow God bless..... really interesting.....

I was shocked when I started seeing things in divine Providence .... may God Continually bless you

I later Got to know That God justifies sinner while sinners in themselves he gives them Grace and they hate sin, although they aren't perfect yet they are loved and welcome

kolawoleibukun:
call their names na. mention names of People way we day see. at least for Jesus time we no many names. you call their names. abi people no day today?

Adeboye follow?

rev kings follow?

apostle Suleiman follow?

mention names for us

kolawoleibukun:
call their names na. mention names of People way we day see. at least for Jesus time we no many names. you call their names. abi people no day today?

Adeboye follow?

rev kings follow?

apostle Suleiman follow?

mention names for us

kolawoleibukun:
so who come be the God's elect na?

Ferisidowu:
I'm not surprised someone called it heresy , but if scriptures be true and infallible.... the truth will be established...


meanwhile let's enjoy our cross over service


happy New year brethren.....

Ferisidowu:
thanks brother,. I asked the question to that one that thinks if he is perfectly obedient to the law like Christ he will justified by it......

if I will be Justice by the law ... Christ profits nothing ....

Ferisidowu:
now tell me if one is perfectly obedient to the law, will he be justified by it

otr1:
We are justified by faith in Jesus, yes, but obedience to God's commandments and the keeping the faith of Jesus are two sides of a coin.
No sinner will see God. And who are sinners? Those who disobey God's Law. Which Law? The Ten Commandments.
I don't see how a christian proclaiming Christ but living in sin is going to get justification from God.
That's why Jesus made it clear that not everyone that calls him "Lord" will see the kingdom of God. If not all who proclaim Christ are not elects, what are the elects doing differently? Rev. 14:12 has the answer.

nicemuyoo:
Permanent salvation by faith alone is a doctrine of the antichrist- the lawless one. The one in whose name the law of God is abolished- that is done away with.
Abraham was said to have faith which led to his righteousness . Folks abrahams faith is actually his good works.he walked before God and was obedient to his commandments( moral laws) that has been in place before Moses time.
He worshipped Yahweh, he never went about committing adultery, robbing people of their money, etc. He lived a life of Good works, walked blamless before God while the whole world was living in sin!!
Joseph had faith when he refused to sleep with portiphar's wife.
Noah had faith so he build an ark devoting time, energy, resources etc towards what God order him to do and also lived a righteous life.
Folks faith means Good works and righteous deeds. But preachers of today has changed it to mean wishful believes to attain worldly riches and money or lust of the eyes, flesh etc. Now this is a doctrine of the antichrist a man of SIN a man in whose name the law of Yahweh is abolished promoting LAWLESSNESS in all the churches.
Some christians/ pastors/ bishops would say to Yahushua on the last day - sir in your name we cast out demons and prayed but He would rely them, I never knew you DEPART FROM ME YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS( DECLARING AND TEACHING THAT MY FATHER'S PERFECT LAWS HAS BEEN ABOLISHED WHEN I CLEARLY STATED I HAVE NOT COME TO ABOLISH THE LAW OF MY FATHER BUT TO FUFILL- AS IN ESTABLISH IT.)
Paul said do we nullify the law? NO! ON THE CONTRARY WE ESTABLISH THE LAW WITH IS GOOD AND PERFECT)
James and john warned against this doctrine of once save by faith alone forever saved making it clear that faith without righteous works is dead!!!
Those that are saved are those that have THE FAITH OF YAHSHUA AND THE RECORD OF OBEDIENCE TO THE COMMANDMENT OF YAHWEH.
I DON'T KNOW WHY CHRISTIANS REFUSE TO YIELD TO THE HOLY SCRIPTURES EXCEPT SOOTHING WORDS just like Paul predicted would happen in the last days
Folks it's TIME pastors/ bishops start teaching scriptures and leave behind antichrist doctrines and all LAWLESS teachings

paxonel:
As self explanatory that scripture is, you are getting it wrong.
Pastors are getting it wrong too.

God can not judge a case in favour of any christian when he is wrong. God is not that bias.
If you are wrong as a christian you will go for it.
However, that scripture is simply saying that, nobody can judge a christian such that, he will loose the eternal life that was once given to him as a gift through Christ, irrespective of what he or she has done

An2elect2:
Thanks for the mention but your second post did justice to the verse.

Julivas:
Does this verse imply that a Christian can live a careless life?
No, not at all.
Check this, Titus 2 : 11-13
11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world,

13 looking for that blessed hope and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ,

Goshen360:
Make una let these law keepers and teachers catch una for this kind thread....how can you people be teaching or saying stuff like this without me..... Una know say this one na the kind food I like to eat naw....ehnnn, una no try at oooo.....

Ferisidowu:
that's what God can do bro.... Paul was like that, he was very zealous for the law, till he was taught what the gospel really is

jiggaz:
So you now understand the Gospel of Grace? Praise be to God!!

I can remember when i started teaching it here, you guys attacked me seriously. I can even see one guy like dat that used to attack all my threads, now preaching Justification by Faith alone.... Praise be to God, am happy for all of you. Grace is the true and only Gospel. It's all about Christ Jesus.

I thank God for you.

Ferisidowu:
yes its comforting indeed whoever has entered into God's rest has seized from his own works....

thanks to the God of all grace

Ferisidowu:
GOD BLESS BROTHER .....

I WAS IN GOD'S PROVIDENCE TAUGHT THAT GOD JUSTIFIES HIS ELECT Even WHILE THEY ARE UNGODLY

ichuka:
Compliments bro

Ferisidowu:
GOD BLESS BROTHER .....

I WAS IN GOD'S PROVIDENCE TAUGHT THAT GOD JUSTIFIES HIS ELECT Even WHILE THEY ARE UNGODLY

enoqueen:
All these corrections for nairaland these days sef, Wetin
Another person go still come talk say Na so now.


I beg make una pack well.